freedom and bliss

[mudpuppy]

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><font face="comic sans ms">dw: one thing... let's not get into the habit of quoting the "experience all
things desired" part without the rest, which is to analyze, accept and
understand the experiences, distilling the love / light within them and
allowing that which is not needed to fall away. without that distilling,
you're just flying blind through the universe. not everyone is at a high
enough level to be ready to hear such an open-minded spiritual practice at
first. free will must be preserved and the faculty of will must be developed
from within. this is often best done by providing sources of inspirational
material that may propose certain disciplines that will help expedite the
process of distilling one's experiences.
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><font face="comic sans ms"><font color="#ff0000">"distilling" isfundamentally, atotally natural process in my view, not an analytical/intellectual process. any disciplines, etc. are only stumbling blocks, which we are told we need but in actuality only get in the way ultimately.</font></font>
><font face="comic sans ms"><font color="#ff0000">just asthe moth gravitates to the flame, so do we gravitate to the love/light as that's where the fun and pleasure are. flying blind and bliss-centered,is the ultimate thrill and ultimate path/no pathto god (god beingour own ulimited nature which can never be gained or lost in essence.)</font></font>
><font face="comic sans ms"><font color="#ff0000">6th density negatives are very high and very close to the core love/light. they easily move to 7th density oneness, when they are ready, so says ra.</font></font>
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><font face="comic sans ms"><font color="#ff0000">regards, mudpuppy</font></font>

[Jeremy Weiland]

> "distilling" is fundamentally, a totally natural
> process in my view, not an analytical/intellectual
> process.

certainly, there is more to the integration of
experience than simply "analyzing" it. although i'm
not able to articulate it, there is a more fundamental
emotive and spiritual force at work in the true
acceptance of the self than the intellectual.

> any disciplines, etc. are only stumbling
> blocks, which we are told we need but in actuality
> only get in the way ultimately.

not sure if i agree with this... the discipline is a
means to an end, that end being a state of
self-knowledge where the discipline is no longer a
productive learning tool. haven't most if not all of
our great spiritual teachers followed some sort of
discipline to get to the point where they can
learn/teach outside of the box?

i agree with david that a spiritual discipline is a
good way of developing the faculty of will and faith.
however, it is a means to an end, not an end in
itself. it is a motivating tool for further
exploration, not a boundary. that is why jesus says
that you need new wineskins for new wine (i think this
is gospel of thomas?).

> just as the moth gravitates to the flame, so do we
> gravitate to the love/light as that's where the fun
> and pleasure are. flying blind and bliss-centered,
> is the ultimate thrill and ultimate path/no path to
> god ( god being our own ulimited nature which can
> never be gained or lost in essence.)

well, i won't say that you're wrong. all paths lead
back to the creator. and certainly if you're already
centered in bliss, you've learned most of the lessons
for 3d already and don't need to worry about
polarizing too much more.

the question comes in, however, when you're not
bliss-centered, when you are suffering and want
answers to your questions. flying blind may be the
best if you have complete and total faith in the
universe, but if you have that faith, you don't really
need to worry about anything anyway. the discipline
gets you to that point.

> 6th density negatives are very high and very close
> to the core love/light. they easily move to 7th
> density oneness, when they are ready, so says ra.

actually, does ra say that there is such a thing as a
6th density negative being? don asks this question
quite directly and is denied an answer b/c of the law
of confusion. which makes me wonder... since i
thought that a 6d would be a depolarized, unified
entity.

i do remember a passage where ra commented that as a
5d negative being approaches 6d, it makes the decision
to perform a spontaneous energy reconstitution in
order to stop the effects of spiritual entropy. this
would seem to signify that there are no negative 6ds,
which makes the above example confusing.

jeremy

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[asciilight]

according to ra there are 6d negative entities.

ra: as the 6th density approaches, the negative orientation is thrown
into confusion and little space travel is attempted. (b3, 13)

ra: these negatively oriented mind/body/spirit complexes have a
difficulty which to our knowledge has never been overcome, for after
5th density graduation wisdom is available but it must be matched
with an equal amount of love. this is difficult to do for negatively
oriented entities so they will choose to release the negativity and
leap into 6th density positive. (b2, 66)

ra: the 6th density negative entity is extremely wise. it observes
the spiritual entropy occurring due to the lack of ability to express
the unity of the 6th density. thus, loving the creator and realizing
at some point that the creator is not only self but other-self as
self, this entity consciously chooses an instantaneous energy
reorientation so that it can continue its evolution. (b2, 66)

i think the misunderstading jeremy was when don asked ra:

are there any 6th density negatively polarized wanderers in our past?

ra: this information could be harmful. we withhold it. please
attempt to view the entities about you as part of the creator. (b2,
67)

hope this clears things up...

robin.

[Jeremy Weiland]

> i think the misunderstading jeremy was when don
> asked ra:
>
> are there any 6th density negatively polarized
> wanderers in our past?
>
> ra: this information could be harmful. we
> withhold it. please
> attempt to view the entities about you as part of
> the creator. (b2,
> 67)
>
> hope this clears things up...

yes it does... thanks!

jeremy

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