What would ET Mentorship be like? [Archive]

bobfitz

09-29-2009, 10:54 AM

right on, folks. thanks for sharing.

i encourage you to turn the idea over in your minds and involve your friends and family in the discussion. as you come across points that interested you, please jot them down on this list and we'll compile as we go.

it's an interesting question: where do we start?
do we start with world leaders? how do we define them? political, religious, scientific, corporate? do we start with "fix this now" teams to address urgent issues? do we open the aperture and involve all humans who are willing to participate and apply what they learn?

given our track record with hierarchies of control keeping wisdom for themselves, perhaps we should start multiple tracks at once. though ironically, we may find one last use for the pyramids of control as we marshal resources and action in the immediate term.

and yes, it's all about the love this go round - amen, sister!
this is the best possible intent come what may.

my hypothesis is that the more we work to manifest these mentorship programs into being, the more likely they are to occur and include us in the process.

we shall see...

Truth180

09-29-2009, 05:04 PM

( the mods should post this, i think the secret is out)

first the system would have to be cracked down which is slowly happening now. do you know what i think, i think that whats going on now is positive et's our controling the earth patterns. they are more responsible and powerful and know what they are doing for the awakening without out interfering with mans free will at the same time. as earth changes slowly increase, i don't think it will end up in one world disaster, because prophecy of what we know on our books don't mean anything. this is to take down the illuminati in an orderly fashion and i say its working. then it will end up with a huge ship coming to earth who the illuminati thinks its all going to be a huge distruction of earth. david mentioned something like this to, but i don't want to ruin it either.

lately i have been finding if hard to believe that this would end up in one big earthquake. this has been wisely planned i must say. i am starting to find the humor in this. :)

Ewhaz

09-29-2009, 05:29 PM

mm i had been thinking of this for a while now, ever since i watched alex's video. while it was full of negative issues, he come out very positive and inspiring.

my thoughts are as follows. one, mentorship is on the level of helpful advice. no laws, no rules, no 'you have to do this,' or 'we will lead you to do this'.

i think the idea of a televised event is a good one. while i think the idea of 'leadership' is over, we need to have 'representatives' who would understand our desires as a whole. in fact since the technology exists, why not have it so that we can all vote on the issues we want addressed and how we want them to be handled? this could all be done in real-time while the event is being watched. no more waiting for the results. then again, maybe all the issues we want addressed can be addressed at the same time and the mentorship may not be about what to do first but rather how to do it all at the same time and perhaps how to synergize it in order to make it even more effective.

one of the major ideas or ideals that alex spoke about is the idea of a holographic government. basically what this means is that from the smallest level of government, that is you and i and joe and jane public, these ideas must be put into place. they will help use learn how to implement this. this also means that the biggest issues need to be implemented on a personal level.

want to heal the planet? start in your back yard. want to heal the masses, start by learning how to heal yourself. want greater honesty and integrity in government (i am only using the term government to express the idea of representative leadership in a way we already understand) then begin by having it in your own life.

i think that we must all be independent and sovereign and yet part of a global community. sovereignty must be upheld on all levels from the personal to the international with only one guideline, do as you will so long as it harms none. each nation will need a chance to implement their own solutions though they must listen to their own people. the mentorship will help us understand how to do this, how to be independent and yet maintain that global partnership.

my feeling is that we will have to address the issues on all levels, personal, civil and international at the same time in order for it to take effect and hold. as some one once said, you can't expect peace in the middle east and hate your neighbor.

i think the mentorship will help us understand what steps to take in order to maintain harmony with our environment and each other. mentorship will be about how to integrate all levels of healing, personal, spiritual, mental, emotional, civil, national, international, global, and even beyond that. mentorship won't be about telling us what to do but rather helping us figure it out for ourselves and perhaps helping us along the way when we get stuck.

starborne

09-29-2009, 09:52 PM

what a fantastic idea!! :) i've been trying to envision what the best way we could hope for our first public contact with et civilizations would be. i haven't seen alex's video yet, but i can see that i should now!

i think tv would be the most ideal way of having such a widespread global moment being seen by as many as possible. with the internet, and phones at our disposal, maybe the first and only technological intervention we could benefit from is the help of upgrading our server networks to prevent them from crashing at all, with lightening fast connections and unlimited bandwidth. that would be step one in my opinion. ;)

now with this all set up for us, we could actively engage in real-time poles/blogs/discussions to ease any worries that i'm sure some of the extremist/fanaticals will have. now in being realistic about this, i do think that most of us will not have a problem with this, as i believe that most folks won't be too surprised.

the only people who will be flailing their arms and crying "the sky is falling!" (aside from those in high positions, or those men of science who deemed the possibility impossible/improbable) are those who are tuned into fox news clutching their anti-obama tea bags. lol however, i feel that once the initial shock wore off, i think we as a world population will come around far quicker than most of us can imagine. as the saying goes... reality is far stranger than the imagination. people often show you just how amazing they can be when you least expect it!

i know this is supposed to be a brainstorming thread to help sprout ideas of this mentorship, but i had to say this...as i feel it needed to be put out there. remember, there are many people who read this message board who are born skeptics that just maybe are really on the fence and just unsure about everything that just need the right assurance that everything will truely be ok sooner than we think. :)

in the meantime, i'll try to start brainstorming ideas for a more public forum of discussion, and share this with everyone i can and try my best to flip the paradigm of "humanity isn't alone."

bobfitz

10-01-2009, 08:15 PM

i agree that focusing on our inner work is probably the best path for us right now. it will help us individually and help remove barriers that keep us from uniting as one. also, the more people awaken spiritually, the more they give the et's a reason to want to engage with us in the first place.

i suspect that wanting to replace the "bad et's" who rule over us with "good ones" is not that appealing to any advanced species. they may be more inclined to participate in an ongoing process of self-determination that is already underway, but needs a hand to get over some hurdles from time to time.

also, it would not be true mentorship a group just wanted to come in and start bossing us around with less draconian agenda. different dog, same fleas.

Truth180

10-02-2009, 07:19 AM

is there really such thing as "negative et's. really there is enough of negativity (if you we want to call it that) going around here on planet earth for oppurtunities to learn. i'm beginning to think that this is something made up a long time ago by mans imagination. how do we know for sure that its not just here on planet earth that think this. what if there is no "bad et's" and were only thinking that there is. if thats the case then in which i think it is, it just in our heads by our thoughts. even if there were they are the same far as thinking as we are that there are no good and bad. they are in their own confusion and fear also. i don't see anything different as far as bad people or bad aliens. if there is even such as thing.

Matthew Clark

10-02-2009, 08:58 AM

hi truth,

i am with you on this one. dr steven greer believes they are all good. some say that this planet has been controlled by a negative bunch of e.t's. watching alex collier, he goes as far as to say (though does not go into detail) that we humans have been used for food, though i have to say you have to take what resonates with you.

personally i dont believe there are many negative e.t's out there as it simply doesnt resonate with me. i feel the ones out there are either not bothered/ignore us humans and a good many actually are looking out for us and our welfare. after all we are all part of the one.

to keep in with the thread, when they do come down (i think it is only a matter of time) and make contact, i would not want the job of explaining to them why some of the world is rich and some of the world is starving. also try and explain to them why we bomb and kill our own kind.

i think mentorship from them would be great but first can i suggest they bang our heads together and make everyone see what really has been going on here. when all of the lies and deceit are exposed, maybe we can listen to them and perhaps even learn from them. god knows we have not managed to do it by ourselves in all of our history.

maybe their first words will be "watch, listen and learn"!

Ewhaz

10-02-2009, 10:04 AM

i would have to disagree with you here. the information in both ra and other channeled sources as well as whistle blower info all states that there are aliens interested in controlling us. are they controlling us now? who knows, the lie is different at every level. as we awaken to the truth, i'm sure we are all in for a bit of shell shock. the law of one states that there are two paths to back to the source, service to self and service to others. that is a core tenant of the info.

duality is part of this vibration, in later vibrations the duality is resolved among sto civilizations and increased among sts civilizations. that's likely why they cannot evolve past a certain point without resolving the issue because it requires them being separate whereas returning to the whole requires being incorporated.

thats why camelot confronted greer (albeit in a highly confrontational display) on the issue of his overtly positive outlook on alien species. if you sent your child out and told him 'you can trust any stranger you meet.' well in our day and age this would be foolish. thats basically what assuming there are only good et's out there would do, open us up to a possibility of being misguided from the beginning.

of course, choose for yourself what you wish to believe, as it is your own path that you travel not any one else's.

getting back to the mentoring issue, of which this is a part. just like the declaration of independence, we need to come up with something that assures us checks and balances to maintain the path we desire. this would be to assure that we are not duped into something that appears to be for the greater good when in fact in the long run it gives our power away to some one or something else.

perhaps it could be a declaration that at any time we can vote on any issue and come up with a conscensous on wether we wish to honor it again. right now all that power is held by congress and the president, which isn't working out for us so well right now. in order for this to happen, we must have:

1) full disclosure and full understanding
the facts need to be presented in a truthful and factual way so that every person can understand it in plain english (or plain whatever language they know) on a common sense level, no jagon, no legalease, just 'this is what it is, this is what it does'

2) full participation
everyone needs to participate. this would require world wide systems of disseminating information. the net is a good start, though it has limitations that need to be overcome. with the worlds refinancing, every one should have access to the system at some time or another. this will require it to be upgraded and enhanced to handle the load. this should be easy enough to do and will take care of the issue well enough till we can handle telepathy etc.

so, as such i think the issues that need to be dealt with first are kinda obvious for those two issues to be handled. everyone needs to be brought up to date (technologically and financially) and then we need to start hashing out the truth and working on a way to combine our intent as cohesively as possible. as i stated before, we need to stop looking to 'leaders' to give our power too and figure out how to take that power back. in the interim we need a representative government to handle things till we get back on our feet and learn how to handle governing ourselves on a personal level.

i think we need to govern ourselves from the inside out. personal, houshold, local, civil, national, international, global.. in that progression. it's been said that we have a pyramid government, that is to say that a few at the top govern the many at the bottom. unfortunetly we don't get to see who's directly at the top right now. a holographic model of government is basically the opposite inverted, where personal power and responsibility are what governs the world.

billybobbutterball

10-02-2009, 10:49 AM

hi, truth.

keeping in mind that this divine cosmos web site is largely oriented around the law of one, as presented in the "ra material", of which contains oodles or information concerning the vital role of negative polarity and the lovable nasties who abide within, you, mr/ms "truth" are hereby charged with semi-high treason in the second or third degree, or whatever...and automatically sentenced to study the ra material study guide --especially the portions dealing with negative polarity (available on site) you can also do a search on this site for archived threads discussing negativity and its role.:)

in the five volumes constituting the full body of information there is more detail given. the channeling "instrument", cala rueckert, is chronically savaged by a negative 5th dimensional fiend ---whoops!, i mean "friend" who sends "negative greetings".:eek:

the ra describes the negative 'orion' crusader's designs on earth in making converts to their commonsense philosophy (screw you! me firstest!) :eek:

on the other hand the famous ufo researcher, dr. stephen greer, recently infamously claimed that, "there are no bad/evil/negative et's whatsoever" :rolleyes: how dr greer came to that conclusion in face of an incredible body of evidence otherwise is a mystery. since he is not dumb i can only imagine there is a hidden political agenda riding upon the falsehood. (in hopes of greasing the rails for governmental disclosure?

best, love, etc, bbbdefender of the faith

is there really such thing as "negative et's. really there is enough of negativity (if you we want to call it that) going around here on planet earth for oppurtunities to learn. i'm beginning to think that this is something made up a long time ago by mans imagination. how do we know for sure that its not just here on planet earth that think this. what if there is no "bad et's" and were only thinking that there is. if thats the case then in which i think it is, it just in our heads by our thoughts. even if there were they are the same far as thinking as we are that there are no good and bad. they are in their own confusion and fear also. i don't see anything different as far as bad people or bad aliens. if there is even such as thing.

releed

10-02-2009, 12:32 PM

i'm a newbie to this forum, and won't have time for a lot of posting or browsing, but i do believe et mentoring began long ago and has reached all of us via our dreamstate or "that still, small voice within."

check your thoughts for tones that don't seem like yours, but that appeal to your highest self. the good angel on your shoulder; letting your conscience be your guide, etc. are all manifestations of their contact with you.

we are always in contact via vibrations--and yes, there are neg et's that use this technology also. just the opposite of the above paragraph in tonality and feel.

our choice is in deciding which vibrations to respond to, if any. free will is always at play.

direct access to our mentation is much more effective and efficient than using old-earth technology such as tv. i, for one, haven't watched tv for the last 20 years and many others on the planet have no tv to watch. "fear is the mindkiller" yes, but so is tv. and religion, although often well-meant. and addictions. (i'm working on my addiction to milk duds, right now. and horror flicks. yes, things as seemingly innocuous as this keep us from true freedom in choosing.)

the saccharine platitude "an attitude of gratitude" is actually extremely helpful in clearing toxic mind traps that keep us from hearing and then heeding the positive et messages. not just "i'm ok with where i'm at." but the wriggly puppy-dog playful joy in life at this moment.

i've been taught about navigating spaceships, the after-life experience, talking to plant and animal devas, how to eat higher vibrational foods, about a non-monetary exchange societal system,etc. all through the dream state. until finding seth, the law of one, project camelot, david, etc. i just thought i was an extremely odd little person--probably crazy, in a harmless way. now i understand that these ideas actually have an objective reality and credibility.

i'm still odd, though and probably at least a little bit crazy.:)

i've also been led to certain books or websites in a very seredipitous fashion by allowing my mind to just be blank and accepting when i'm standing in front of the book shelves in the library or browsing the web. when i sense the "that's it!" feel, i no longer try to figure out where it came from or why, i just go with it.

do i believe that there will be a substantive change from this between now and, oh let's say some abitrary date, like--- 2012? yeah. (one of my recurrent dreams involves a voice telling me that i will know what to do when my "elevator center has been activated." until then, i have to be content with just sort of feeling what i should do.) i believe this refers to a state of mind in which we can all access higher vibrational realities, which is where the pos et's reside.

folks who are concerned with finding "safety zones" are still in the fear mode. this modality literally blocks higher mentation which would lead you to your own destiny--which is always a safe place in the highest sense.

this universe is more loving than any of us can imagine. if we're willing to look the shadows in the face, they take on dimensions that allow us to dispel them. refusing to look actually gives them energy, but not as much as fearing them does.

ok, i'm rambling. best thing? just remember that you are truly blessed.

Matthew Clark

10-02-2009, 12:38 PM

hi truth,

well it appears that one of the big boss's has got involved (bbb) :)

i am lucky enough to class billybob a friend - i love him dearly though i have to say he is very clever and sometimes uses words which i have to look up ;)

he makes a very good point (he has put me in my place more than once lol) about studying the loo on negative polarity. i have actually tried studying the loo, however i find it a bit too heavy in places so i keep going back to it.

i think the main point here is that as i said earlier, i dont believe there are many negative e.t's but there are a few. most of which seem to be involved in the running of this planet i guess. :eek: at the end of the day, i much prefer to concentrate on the positive beings, goodness knows there is enough negativity around the world.

i would love to be mentored by one of them, though i would have to give careful thought as to exactly how. when you have been a part of a race which has been involved in so much death and destruction, i think i may be more than a little embarrassed to be human when we first meet! i think for now i will concentrate on what i am going to wear for the first meeting! ;)

peace, love and light,

matt

bobfitz

10-02-2009, 01:13 PM

we clearly have a "once bitten twice shy" issue when it comes to establishing trust with other beings (human or otherwise).

the rights of all beings are important and we need to understand them and respect them come what may. however, i would suggest that we should go one step further. we should begin to give equal weight to our responsibilities. what are my rights and my responsibilities in service to self and service to others?

as a species, we have the curious habit of wanting/demanding rights while we routinely abdicate our responsibilities. we are willing to allow governments, religions, corporations, institutions, and individuals to control large portions of our human experience without our full participation.

i'm not saying all forms of collective action are bad. we may well decide that we need these kinds organizations in our society. however, we may better serve ourselves and each other if we realize our responsibilities and remain mindful in our intent and actions.

Truth180

10-03-2009, 08:27 AM

hi guys

i was thinking about this for a while now. i did see the steven greer interview on project camelot and see what he was trying to say. i agree that a child should know not to take candy from a stranger, but my point is only exclusivley here on earth that evil/bad is only in the minds of man and negative et's are not necessary for our lessons here on earth i don't think. if you put yourself in someones position who has there own negative thoughts but don't believe in aliens does that mean it comes form evil beings. i don't think so i think it comes from us and our own thoughts. also not just does divine cosmos evolve around the law of one of negative and positive, but so does everything else in this world.

steven greer was getting his point across that if we get into the majestic part of things, where people go into fear that they may think is not of thier control. saying that these negative beings have special powers to control us. i strongly feel that is not true at all and we can say there our negative et's but they do not do things like this to fool people. i think its ok to say they do not exist. instead of saying "hey look at us were here too".

billybobbutterball

10-03-2009, 05:32 PM

dear truth

i've been puzzling over your posting here for quite some time. despite my earnest pondering i still can't make out the core of whatever message it is that you are trying to communicate to us.

i also viewed dr. greer's responses and declarations on the pc interview and i cannot remember him specifically presenting anything matching up with what you are attributing to him. (perhaps i should view it again?)

please, truth, explain what you mean by,
' snip...here on earth that evil/bad is only in the minds of man and negative et's are not necessary for our lessons here on earth...snip" ?

what? seems you are claiming that "evil" exists only in the minds of man -- which implies that there are zero negative extra terrestrials impinging on mankind?

in a posting i recently made i tried to point out that, that particular idea of yours does not fly according to the ra material; the celebrated work concerning the "philosophy of being" that this divine cosmos website is built upon! aaaaggtghhh!:eek::d

accordingly, i'm threatening to rename you truth/falsehood:d

this particular earthly experience we are attending is an experiment; featuring so-called free will -- which gets us all into a lot of trouble, which in turn provides great amounts of stimulating catalyst which promotes spiritual experience leading to accelerated growth. true, the sub-logi probably went overboard in shooting for maximum results. (their previous work was too bland and spectacularly unproductive...so we get this mess in return)

well, i see where i'm just spinning my wheels. i should point out that i don't know all the answers. heck, who can take any clown named "billybobbutterball" seriously??:p

purty pleeze, would you kindly recompose your post so as to make it easier digesting for us hillbillies?

best, bill g

hi guys
i was thinking about this for a while now. i did see the steven greer interview on project camelot and see what he was trying to say. i agree that a child should know not to take candy from a stranger, but my point is only exclusivley here on earth that evil/bad is only in the minds of man and negative et's are not necessary for our lessons here on earth i don't think. if you put yourself in someones position who has there own negative thoughts but don't believe in aliens does that mean it comes form evil beings. i don't think so i think it comes from us and our own thoughts. also not just does divine cosmos evolve around the law of one of negative and positive, but so does everything else in this world.

steven greer was getting his point across that if we get into the majestic part of things, where people go into fear that they may think is not of thier control. saying that these negative beings have special powers to control us. i strongly feel that is not true at all and we can say there our negative et's but they do not do things like this to fool people. i think its ok to say they do not exist. instead of saying "hey look at us were here too".

Truth180

10-03-2009, 10:57 PM

hi billy

i do go by as my nick name and don't want lead anyone the wrong way. i write of how i feel about the subject. its hard for someone to catorgorize me i guess when i post.

i know we need negative influence for rapid spiritual growth here on planet earth. but what i am trying to say is that do we really need to know that negative et's are here. or does it do more harm to say these things as they are not here on earth. i also think that bad or negativity is created from our minds since the begining of man. to try to clear this up i will say that evil is in the minds of man as well as in the minds of the negative et's which creates the illusion. since everything is only created good from the creator. we can view everything as positive. :)

i am probably wrong at saying that bad et's don't exist. we should know that they are real, but i disagree when people say that there is powers out of peoples control.

i really don't want to cause any confusion. i just post my thoughts and probably thinking to much. in which should just leave as is. :o

if this makes any sense, i appoligize for any misunderstanding. :o

hope this helps of what i mean other wise let me know.

love and light always, truth

Ewhaz

10-04-2009, 10:10 AM

i think i got what your trying to say, alluding to the fact that there is no real 'right' or 'wrong' as all paths lead to the creator eventually.

as david has said, when what we call 'negative et's ' make contact with us, it is not about coming in and dominating a species. it's called a 'negative greeting'. when some one comes in and tries to dominate or subjugate another it seems that one is forcing it's will on another, but on a higher spiritual aspect it is an offer of enslavement. they aren't forcing any one to give up their power, they're offering it. it is the people who give up their power that allow the evil and impinging doom to take place.

that is why we are in the situation we are in now. no one came to dominate us, we gave up our power. it's time to take that power back. there is info on how the illuminati need to 'offer' their role as world leaders and we have to accept it, although this is done discreetly through symbolism.

so the issue here is not that we have to worry about 'evil' et's or bad guys, but we have to learn as a species how to recognize these offers of enslavement and since we have chosen to be free, we must be discerning on who and what is being offered on the table as a global community. yes, there is no right or wrong however our path requires that we use discretion when dealing with alien species and not simply assume that they are all interested in our own greater good.

Matthew Clark

10-04-2009, 12:30 PM

thank you for that post.

you have made me realise a few things that i had taken for granted.

you are so right when you say that we no-one came to dominate us, we gave up our power! how true.

time to take it back - dead right.

thank you for those words of wisdom - well put.

matt

Truth180

10-04-2009, 12:57 PM

that is why we are in the situation we are in now. no one came to dominate us, we gave up our power. it's time to take that power back. there is info on how the illuminati need to 'offer' their role as world leaders and we have to accept it, although this is done discreetly through symbolism.

so the issue here is not that we have to worry about 'evil' et's or bad guys, but we have to learn as a species how to recognize these offers of enslavement and since we have chosen to be free, we must be discerning on who and what is being offered on the table as a global community. yes, there is no right or wrong however our path requires that we use discretion when dealing with alien species and not simply assume that they are all interested in our own greater good.

i agree and see what you mean that we should acknowledge the offers of enslavement then compared to forcing someone to do something against thier will. basicly if disclosure happens, then everyone should realize that most et's are positive and to point out that there is negative et's. i think that every time we introduce the negative et to someone new. it should be followed that there are universal laws or higher powers that prevent them from controlling. i realize this, but for others who want to know.

bobfitz

10-04-2009, 11:01 PM

sorry, but i don't buy it.
ignorance is passed down generation after generation and ruthlessly enforced until it is a foregone conclusion that the status quo is accepted.

don't tell me a child born into 15th generation poverty is to blame for being poor. and please spare me the claim that we should all naturally reject every norm of our upbringing. it's a galactic cop out.

we turn our heads from kids starving in india just like our "advanced brothers" let us twist for 13,000 years while they debated whether we were worth all the trouble. blame the victim? really? i guess we're not all that different from advanced races after all.

as david has said, when what we call 'negative et's ' make contact with us, it is not about coming in and dominating a species. it's called a 'negative greeting'. when some one comes in and tries to dominate or subjugate another it seems that one is forcing it's will on another, but on a higher spiritual aspect it is an offer of enslavement. they aren't forcing any one to give up their power, they're offering it. it is the people who give up their power that allow the evil and impinging doom to take place.

Volunteer

10-10-2009, 06:22 PM

it only takes something like 1% of the population of a country to change themselves, and then the whole country will follow soon enough, and then other countries, eventually including those in africa or wherever.

and maybe part of the change we need is to not need to be "told" by somebody else or by society what we are "supposed to do" in our lives. in that sense, i think "mentoring" is an unfortunate term. i'm continually amazed at how so many people i know or meet who are seriously interested in personal growth believe they need a spiritual guru or a psychic advisor who will "take responsibility" for the decisions in their lives. never mind any fear-mongering regarding negative ets. far too many people are secretly very afraid of themselves.

Volunteer

10-10-2009, 07:06 PM

i believe what matthew clark and others are saying is an important point. basically, fear is a useful emotion if you are in a paddock and there is a bull charging at you and there is a reasonable chance the bull might make contact with you before you reach the fence. but if you have a fence between you and the bull, fear is a negative and useless and damaging emotion. it doesn't matter how huge and angry that bull may look. also, even if you are in the paddock too much fear is also detrimental, because it may cause you to freeze, or to panic so much that you fail to run in a straight line for the fence which is closest.

as i have a professional background in psychology, whenever i see any trace of unnecessary fear it sets off alarm bells for me. such fear is closely tied to most kinds of emotional or psychological problems. even if the bull really exists, and is very big and very angry, it's not sane or constructive to anyone's psychological health suggest to others that they should worry about it.

bobfitz

10-11-2009, 02:01 AM

the term mentoring does not bother me so much. we learn best by working side by side, following an example, and completing tasks on a trial and error basis. are we not learning from david and each other on this very site?

i'm not suggesting that acting from fear, we abdicate our responsibilites. rather, i'm asking the question, "if you could tap into some very experienced guidace, what kind of information would you seek and under what terms would you accept it?"

some people may want help with advanced science, others advanced healing, others advanced spirituality. some may simply be curios to know where we come from. some may seek no guidance whatsoever.

we're facing some daunting challenges and it seems unwise to not take advantage of all available resources. for instance, i can take responsibility for myself, but that doesn't mean i can suddenly invent a renewable source of clean energy.

annecat

10-11-2009, 01:52 PM

[quote=bobfitz. rather, i'm asking the question, "if you could tap into some very experienced guidace, what kind of information would you seek and under what terms would you accept it?"]

you know bob, that i do speak from my own personal experiences, as i have been in this "et or alien mentorship" all my life, and especially this very weekend i have been doing real soul searching.

the conclusion that i have reached is that as ever, we have a free will.
we have to make the choices, to ask the questions, to listen or not to listen, to follow or not to follow, or to understand or not.

there is no terms, no contracts. it is a lonely path being responsible of one's own choices.

before seeking any new information, i am letting myself to remember what i have already learned or experienced, and i take it from there.

anne

noppy

12-21-2009, 03:46 PM

e.t. mentorship would be awesome !!!

i wil ask them anything that comes across my mind even how to make instant noodles with just your thoughts :d

but have a conversation with god/friend/oneness/creator would be even more awesome super awesome.

conundrum

12-21-2009, 08:23 PM

what would et mentorship be like?

it may depend on the students ability to observe listen understand and integrate what is being communicated rather than who or what is communicating it.

if some one or an entity convinces you to do some thing that doesn't resonate well with your self it is possible that you are being led out of integrity with your self or possibly bringing to your attention an injury or fear.

on the flip side if you are already out of integrity you may be given an opportunity to see the error that has become an addiction way of life or the status quo what is seen as acceptable or normal behaviour.

7Sisters

12-21-2009, 08:45 PM

when the student is ready the teacher will appear. i know the first thing i would like to do is give my teacher a hug.

NegaNova

12-22-2009, 01:13 AM

when the student is ready the teacher will appear. i know the first thing i would like to do is give my teacher a hug.

it's funny that you say this because as i was reading the first post in this thread, i asked a friend of mine on msn and she said she'd first give them lots of hugs!

that being said, i suppose the first thing i would want is for them and us to impliment some sort of system where our personal choices and needs and desires are heard. like, so that somehow we would truly be able to be a collective of decision. it's difficult today because our representatives are only general insights to what we actually want, and most times we feel powerless in any decision at all that the government carries out. i'm not exactly sure how this would all be possible, but perhaps if there was a way to tap into the collective mind of the planet.

perhaps they could teach humanity more clearly how our thoughts are coming into physical manifestation, so that perhaps we could harness this, and thus make collective decisions this way.

on a super side note, in response to all the posts about the negative oriented entity in earlier posts - i feel we have to remember that there is actually nothing wrong with so-called negative ets. remember that part of the human population will decide to seek this negative path, and we should allow them free passage and a smooth transition into such. they are just as beautiful as we are.

bobfitz

12-22-2009, 08:48 PM

yes, hugs and oneness are in order! top of the list.

i suppose i want to know how i can best participate in healing the planet. seems like we use this remarkable playground to have incredible experiences, but neglect to clean up the mess we make in the process. i have some inklings, but it would great to know how to connect the dots between my inner work and tangible benefits for mother earth.

zamapara

02-28-2010, 06:48 PM

i'm happy to find this here. i watched his video as well and...perhaps took it a step further by making it a visualization for me to help it to occur with my intention.
being a very meticulous person i included many details. :rolleyes:
so mentorship is part of this...with a "lead up to mentorship" and building to a time when less mentorship would be necessary.
in short...it is how i would visualize first contact happening...which includes mentorship.

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visualizing first contact to encourage a positive outcome. part 1

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pre-contact preparations

-humans who are aware and willing, devote an increasing amount of their time and in every increasing numbers...to praying for the health of all others on earth and the earth itself. their organized love intention encourages aliens that earth is ready for contact
-a steadily increasing stream of gentle (artifacts) alien evidence, true human ancient history evidence and alien ancient history evidence (leaked documents and artifacts from existing archives), prepares the majority of the world for acceptance of alien contact.
-ancient history evidence dismantles religious doctrine and peacefully puts in its place unity from our common history with all beings on earth and elsewhere. this happens slowly around the world and the end of religious doctrine happens during the days after first contact and the revealing of all evidence of our family throughout existence
-increasing stream of government admittal (mid-level whistleblowers) of prior alien contact
-indigenous peoples expose any evidence/stories they have
-alien contact with trusted leaders of various indigenous peoples preparing them for the upcoming "day 1" event

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overview:

day 1 (wednesday/mid-work-week, vernal or autumnal equinox/april or september) (2011, nov 11, 11:11pm est)
-very sublte (undetectable by all technologies managed by malevalent or benevalent beings on or around earth in this and any other time period) calming frequencies are emitted to all beings on or around earth...or within our solar system 1 day prior to the first contact announcement.
-calming frequencies emitted to all beings on earth (15.000000000 seconds before announcement)
-weapons and malevolent communication neutralization (14.000000003 seconds before announcement)
-malevolent beings gently neutralized (14.000000033 seconds before announcement) they are still able to hear and understand the announcement.
-alien speech day 1 (introduction of event)
-alien speech day 2 (explanation of event)
-day 3, alien mentoring stations/ships land
-day 6, alien teachers begin instructing those who are ready
-day 36, agreements are made with all earth beings (plants, insects, animals, etc)
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1. all communications devices are automatically turned on and a gentle special announcement graphic and/or audio is presented. this is a still image and repetitive audio announcement that lasts for 1 minute and uses computers, televisions, radios, handheld devices of all kinds. no one is able to adjust the device settings, power, or volume. all devices will communicate in the volume and language suitable for those observing to understand perfectly.
simultaneously, alien beings have gently disrupted all weapons of the world. any malevolent humans or beings have been gently neutralized as well.

2. after five minutes of seeing the warning image...or hearing the repetitive audio message (e.g. your attention please...this is an important announcement...you attention please...etc) an image of a human being or voice of a human being states a special announcement will be made in a few seconds.

3. a peaceful looking alien (future human?) being is seen or heard and states calmly, "the human race is at a crossroads. you have made great strides in creating human rights, and have worked diligently towards finding peaceful methods of coexistence. we the beings of other planetary systems (future times?) have been waiting patiently for the right time to announce our offer of mentorship to the human race. we have overcome many of the problems you now face and without asking anything other than to observe and help humanity, we offer our mentorship so that this planet, all living things upon it, and the human race can realize their full potential. we will return in 1 solar day with more information. please continue to work as you do every day...so as to not disrupt the flow of food and other necessities you all need to survive. but please also consider our offer seriously, and know that we love you as family...for you are part of a greater family of beings in the milky way galaxy that has long awaited your union with us. it is time for us to share our knowledge so we may build a healthy and peaceful galaxy for all. thank you."

...end of part 1

zamapara

02-28-2010, 06:49 PM

...beginning of part 2
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4. no injuries or deaths occur due to the announcement. human beings go about their day feeling as if a load has lifted from their shoulders. in fact, the alien beings have created an energy field to encourage the natural human brain/body frequency for calm behaviour. yet people are very alert and pleasantly excited to hear again from the alien representative the following day.
during the time after the initial statement, all those peoples of earth who are without communications devices are contacted by humans wherever possible and given the exact same message...and by alien messengers for those in remote areas far from other people.
all communication devices used for non-malicious purposes function flawlessly to allow humans around the world to contact each other and encourage a sense of safety.
all animals become more peaceful and loving...sensing the calmness around them, any stresses they feel are also eliminated for the duration of the first contact period.

5. aliens (future humans) return in 1 solar day using the same procedure as before. all those communicated to receive and understand the message.
it is announced that alien vehicles will arrive for those who wish to meet with alien representatives.
communication technology adaptive to the needs of all, holding all known information, is made available to all.
it is the same for the information access interface system. adaptive to the users needs. utilizing existing human technology where necessary.
for those who are willing, telepathy is made available.
for those who are willing, personal contact is made available.
access to this information over a period of 3 solar days creates a united earth, where all are eager to take full responsibility for their lives, their community, their earth...and beyond.
any malevolent beings not from earth become allies, and a peaceful solution to their needs is found. a home for them is found. peace for them as well comes, and all hatred for them or any other beings, human or otherwise, present or future, is gone and all is forgiven.

6. alien teachers begin the process of explaining to humans their full potential. teaching them how to harness their inner power. for some...this may mean the discovery of a new dimension.
as well...many humans are excited to take part in the reformation of all communities on earth.
now that they are aware of the cycles of their own galaxy and how they effect earth and all beings...preparations are made to make the most of all upcoming situations and protect all.
technologies that provide everyone with their own energy source, and personal or community food growing source...are distributed to all.
all harmful systems created by humankind come to a stop.
all technologies no longer required are turned in to something healthy and useful.
humans finally realize their full potential: "responsible freedom of self determination. becoming truly self confident and free. to unconditionally be responsible for themselves, each one, without being coerced by some other authority."
over a period of 30 solar days all humans realize their ability to communicate with animals and plants.

7. communication with all beings of earth results an agreement that guarantees the rights of all earth beings and visitors.
all are recognized as being part of the whole...the earth...and necessary for each other to survive. the areas of the earth they use most often are given priority based on their experience and history of that area. (air, land, waters)
it is a day that is marked as the most special for its unique ability in the universe to include all planetary beings and visitors. the declaration of the rights of all beings begins and after 30 solar days in finalized to the satisfaction of all.

8. deconstruction of many human structures is already beginning, and the earth once more begins to look like the living thing it is, instead of a human machine. the earth's health improves.
most humans are busy with the work of deconstruction and reprocessing of unneeded materials for their safe merging back into the earth.
many existing structures still stand, but instead of miles of human construction there is large open spaces for plant and animal growth to thrive.
no one is left behind. all beings who need food, shelter, and love...now have it.
humans have agreed to restrict thier population growth until smaller numbers exist, at which time a limited number of children may be allowed in keeping with the health of earth.
if possible within the realm of health for each planet...humans look to colonizing elsewhere...and visiting other worlds.

vwj123

03-04-2010, 05:49 PM

we already have et mentorship and always have. it’s no coincidence that david and others are devoting staggering amounts of energy and resources - helping us to access this information. so i don't want to lose sight of this, because i believe it’s all part of the mentoring process that has always been, alongside the vast amount of historical evidence and archaeological artifacts etc., which has been under our noses for aeons! these alone must be deemed worthy of consideration to even the biggest skeptic. factor in spielberg and other's who use art to imitate life (or vice versa), the sightings, crop circles, channellings, abductions, upsurge in the interest in exo-politics, black-ops whistle blowers, with major credentials coming forward and so on. if this isn't et mentoring 101, then what has the seventy year old game of hide and seek been about!? it resonates like the proverbial dangling carrot in front of the horses’ nose!!! i don't know if any of you have come across the urantia book, http://urantiabook.org/newbook/index.html, but it offers an approach to some plausible explanations about ets and our connection to them that could give insight into mentorship. the book suggests that we are all star-seeded and also gives clues how et mentoring would be very specific, with regards to how our origins relate to theirs. (spiritually and genetically) they'd need a loving 'teacher style' approach, be very forthcoming and transparent, (telepathically?) have great ability to calm the abject fear and paranoia of those who would become even more confused, resistant. 'rightiously' indignant, hateful and totally freaked out than they are at present when confronted with the new reality shift! so in counterbalance, a powerful love vibrational frequency would be paramount. their mentorship would radiate the brotherhood of man (earthly as well as extraterrestrial) and the fatherhood of god - the reality of absolute inter-connectivity, the law of one that david espouses. they would be adept at reconciling our philosophies and nomenclatures. they could efficiently correlate the ever-confusing historical, anthropological, archaeological, religious, astrological/astronomical and extraterrestrial paradigms that we’ve been grappling with for centuries, by providing a basic 'cosmology for dummies' type of format that could be accessed at geo-centers around the globe, online and beamed via satellite 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, to all capable devices. an avalanche of information is going to need to be exposed, (as is now occurring) to an unsuspecting, general populace, by means of clear and comprehensible revelation that can be easily assimilated with maximum efficiency, in the shortest possible time. many will need to be spoon fed and of the mindset: "lucy you got some 'splainin to do!" :-) so an accessible spiritual/cosmological crash course on loop will be useful for the quickening. (lest we forget, there are still many that still don't have a clue!) they would be masterful at offering up irrefutable proof to even the most resistant skeptics, with loving spiritual ministry, without the slightest threat of violating free will. free will and its universal responsibility would be high on their teaching curriculum. they would not only possess a great sense of humor, but always direct us to access our higher selves and through their mentorship, offer tremendous assistance in accelerating that process. they’d consistently remind us that though they maybe more technologically, physically and/or spiritually advanced than we are, they are in fact just on a different position of the universal 'curve', all the while, heraldiing that we are collectively evolving, just as all of creation is evolving. while this is a lot to ask, they are well aware of the fact that a lot is going to be required very quickly. it will be evident that they've been planning events alongside the celestials universal administrators, (or "the management" as i believe david coins the phrase) a lot longer than we've been pondering them. multiple programs in combination will be implemented to effect the most peaceful transition possible. they will help our realization of the certainty of eternal survival and be able to succinctly answer relevant questions about what this actually entails. and therein lies an important key. our gaining the wisdom to know just what to ask of them! we're beginning to figure that out now, which is within itself is a most auspicious occasion indeed!! their mentorship will not do the necessary work for us, rather with us, in celebration of the glorious spirit of cosmic brotherhood. as we ponder these things, let’s not forget to steadfastly meditate upon how we can spiritually 'step up' to an ever-increasing level of divine sonship. in the final analysis, they will espouse: celestial, exraterrestrial, mortal, flora, fauna, mineral, molecule, are all merely 'cells' in the 'body' of the one!

bobfitz

05-12-2010, 04:25 PM

i just saw a new video featuring alex collier at the alex collier at the earth transformation conference in january 2010. he expands on the idea of taking responsibility for creating our reality while allowing for the possibility of et mentorship.

don't know if the mods will allow the link, but i recommend listening to the presentation.

the title you tube title is:
"alex collier at the earth transformation conference hawaii january 7-10 2010"
http://www.youtube.com/user/bobfitz03#p/c/81c72aa57b9dd8f1/0/lj3xuwpb38o

peace.

shadowoman52

05-19-2010, 09:31 AM

the mentorship program has been in effect for some time.
i'm here to answer some of your questions.

quote: "bobfitz"
- help us get past the immediate term!
- what are the critical path items for the species?
- can we get a copy of our operating manual?
- what is built into our spacesuit and how do we access the capabilities?
- how do we access to our true historical records and past life wisdom?
- basic introduction to mechanics of the universe
- basic introduction to beings of the universe
- how do we contact a mentor and sign up today?

1.)et's have been helping us for millinea. the 'immediate term' is the dimensional shift of 2012. it is one of the biggest events of the universe and "everyone" is poised to assist.
2.)"critical path items for the species?"> evolution to higher frequency vibration. taking our place in the universal confederation.
3.)we are the "operating manual". the "records" are stored in our dna.
4.)we don't need a spacesuit.
5.)to access our "true" historical records use your "library card">dna
6.)the "introduction to the mechanics of the universe" is stored in the "akashic record" which has been checked out by several people on this planet throughout millinea, already.
7.)as for "basic introductions" to the "beings of the universe", "hello" is a good place to start. get rid of the "fear factor". (as jimi hendrix puts it in 'up from the skys in axis bold as love....... "i just wanna talk to you. i won't do ya no harm.")
8.)the rule of thumb has always been, "don't call us; we'll call you." and there are no perks for signing up your friends and family.

have a nice day!

bobfitz

05-21-2010, 11:32 PM

when i see the disaster in the gulf of mexico, the exposure of pedophiles in church and state, the recognition and potential prosecution of institutional financial fraud, and the moral vacancy of resource wars, i begin realize the emerging pattern our time.

humanity is larger than the institutions intended to contain us and we are breaking free.

clearly, open season has been declared on the pope/vatican. big oil and big banking are next (and they deserve it). can big narco, big war, big media, big brother and the shadow government be far behind? we can see the apocalypse (the unveiling) happening all around us. truth embargoes are vaporizing and the corrupt, totalitarian hearts of money, oil, war, drugs, surveillance, politics, and religion are exposed.

the much needed truth telling is creating a reverberation of increasing intensity that is quite literally shattering the carefully constructed crystal dome placed around humanity. though important, this transition is unsettling and painful for many good and wonderful people in the world. increasingly, everyone can see the corrupt, bankrupt "authorities" and difficult days ahead. overwhelming stress can build up as we face the only question that really matters, "what do we do about all this?"

our corporate brethren are already boiling the oceans, so i suggest the rest of us take a more modest approach. start by creating your very own mock-up of the world (think: "my intention for humanity on earth"). it doesn't have to be grandiose or all encompassing. it just needs to address the things that matter to you personally. every time something comes up on your radar screen that does not jibe with your list, send out an intention to change that situation. more proactively, you can focus on your intentions on a daily basis.

here are some thoughts to get the ball rolling (i welcome any and all input):

what is your intention for the biosphere?
do you want toxic air, soil, and water?
do you want clean air, soil, and water?
do you want the biosphere to be damaged and corrupted by human civilization?
do you want the biosphere to strike a healthy balance with human civilization?

what is your intention for human civilization?
do you want human civilization to face some sort of doomsday?
do you want humanity to veer away from doomsday scenarios and move toward healing transformation?

what is your intention for providing the physical necessities of life?
do you want free, abundant, renewable, water and food supplies for the planet?
do you want profit-driven, genetically engineered, scarce water and food supplies for the planet?

what is your intention for peace?
do you want peace or war?
do you want the military to control the population of the planet?
do you want the military to serve the population of the planet, become obsolete, and stand down permanently??

what is your intention for freedom?
do you want to take responsibility for yourself, your home, and your fellow beings?
do you want some other party or entity to take responsibility for you, your home, and your fellow beings?

what is your intention for health?
do you want inevitable disease and sickness?
do you want abundant health?
do you want your health to be controlled by corporations?
do you want advances in medicine and ancient wisdom to work in harmony for the loving benefit of all beings?

what is your intention for your spirit?
do you want to understand your true origins and reasons for being?
do you want to follow a religious, scientific, or philosophical dogma?
do you want science, philosophy, and religion to work in harmony for the loving benefit of all beings?

what is your intention for justice and accountability?
do you want to create a just civilization?
do you want all beings to be recognized as equals?
do you want all beings to be held accountable for their actions?
do you want to create a special class of beings who reap benefits while others do not and face no accountability for their actions?

the list can go on and on. i suggest you keep it short, sweet, and important to you.

empower yourself! begin a personal practice to think about your list everyday. more quickly than you might imagine, your thoughts, words, and actions will begin to come into harmony with your intentions.

Babyblue

06-17-2010, 09:30 AM

want to heal the planet? start in your back yard. want to heal the masses, start by learning how to heal yourself. want greater honesty and integrity in government (i am only using the term government to express the idea of representative leadership in a way we already understand) then begin by having it in your own life.

i think that we must all be independent and sovereign and yet part of a global community. sovereignty must be upheld on all levels from the personal to the international with only one guideline, do as you will so long as it harms none.

wise words, i agree, its time for us to mentor ourselves and not rely on others to solve our problems. and, i also believe the only law we need is "do as you will as long as it harms no one else", or rather do not infringe on someones elses right to free will and to do what they want and they should offer you the same courtesy. we should all take responsibility and become sovereign beings. well said.
love thyself, love all others.
peace x
ps i'd still love to hang out with the cosmic family members mind you, visit their planet, fly through the universe, learn about their culture, food, language, customs. i live in china so i've had some practice :d

Wisdom1111

07-30-2010, 10:25 AM

what would et mentoring look like? i am new to this forum but here goes... in my opinion in order for us to be at a stage ready for et mentorship, we must first have had disclosure and official announcements world wide. we as a planet would know without a doubt that there are many et races out there some are service to self and some are service to others. then we would be shown many ufo flyovers and landings where dialogues can begin. once diologues begin we could be introduced to our mentor who would have studied everything about you before hand.
once we are introduced to our mentor we would possibly go for a long walk anywhere on or in earth we wished. once relaxed and comfortable our mentor would start by explaining how a service to all civilization works and how each individual is shown to remember who they truely are and what unique gifts and talents they already have within. and once these gifts and talents are realized we would be mentored as to how to develope these talents until they are somewhat mastered. then we would be encouraged to think of how we could use these talents and abilities in service to all.
also our mentors whould begin to discuss the harvest and begin preparing our physical and light bodies for ascension (harvest). after ascension (harvest) we would be immediatly mentored as to how to live as a fully concious human and the proper edicate as well as how to be mindful of our thoughts because the would manifest instantly so we would also be shown how to unmanifest our creations. during this whole proccess our mentor would be there for us to answer any questions we have. i personally would have alot of questions.

namaste
wisdom1111

Easeintothefuture

08-10-2010, 08:36 PM

i started to speculate about a possible ideal way of disclosure coming about.this is what i have come up with so far…

current ideal scenario: as from now benevolent aliens disempower non-benevolent ones entirely and escort all of them far out of the system – permanently banished. we now have a system free of any malign or manipulative entities or aliens – people in black ops now come forward to share their knowledge – at first with the president – completely and fully confessing that until the alien threat to them, their families and the peoples of the earth was nullified – because the threat was universal – they were unable to speak. the whitehouse holds a press conference giving a synopsis of the situation with more reports to be forthcoming.

subsequent conferences relate the history of these projects and how they were ensnared by extremely intelligent non benign ets, with a further promise to engage a full public education programme involving free films/infodocs. simultaneous to this comes the announcement of planetary friendly technology package they are now permitted to release as well as the nature and presence of the highly benevolent aliens, who are further prepared to offer a tentative form of mentorship involving aid/galactic education provided we fully own our own sovereignty and uphold an unshakable willingness to take full responsibility for ourselves and the planet. an open schedule of meetings with positive ets is set up in an atmosphere of full media awareness and transparency; the president announces a new initiative of complete openness and transparency along with a promise to the us public and the world: no more secrets – ever again.

because of the highly vulnerable nature of their previous position - and because public opinion demands it - and in the interest of national and international harmony the president declares an unconditional pardon to everyone involved in black ops program’s, honoring some for their role in mitigating the situation – also honoring those who chose to speak out and lost their lives – albeit not knowing that the secrecy was forced on the powersthatwere. an open disclosure conference is set in motion in the us with daily reports of the testimonies from the various officials which is reported in the media worldwide – the emphasis being on the sacrificial role those in the back ops took to ensure world safety and the ways they tried to free themselves. in the interest of allowing these hearings to go forward without needless news competition and in order the issues are fully aired, the et meetings are scheduled to take place sometime after.

benevolent ets inform us of likely events in our timeline and show us the range of options open for us to meet those events with confidence in our wellbeing as a planet. meetings with world leaders and representatives - in which the benevolent ets take an advisory role – are engaged to initiate and develop effective programs to take advantage of the new tec and the planets underdeveloped resources, to feed and house in clean, healthy, conditions, the growing population.

steps are taken to make sure all our current social and religious systems are respected and not overwhelmed by the news. forums are set up with delegates from every religious and philosophic/political background to discuss impact of new information and how they and the people they represent and the planet as whole can go forward into the future in a cohesive way. religious and political leaders of every sort are given access to media to give their respective members vision and re-assurance. films from time travel projects and equipment for showing are released to churches, temples and mosques worldwide with episodes from their respective teachers/prophets lives at the time of their ministries – this could quite possibly be an optional feature. each nation delegates a day of public holiday to celebrate official discovery of benevolent life. welcome home planet earth.

secrecy makes special. those in black ops have an exalted sense of specialness/responsibility, as do we on a smaller scale who have opened are minds to these ideas and possibilities – were pre-informed, that can be quite ego-enhancing - we are going to have to willingly sacrifice that and just be ordinary joes again – knowing no more than anyone else that looks at the news - ordinary divine joes - ie christs in the making like everyone else - but ordinary joes nonetheless... for my part, i’m fairly sure i am ready and that the universe has more than enough wonder and magic to satisfy me without me needing to feel special in the sense of having ‘inside’ knowledge anymore... that being said i am sure there will be a whole alternative scene of knowledge, info and discussion on the internet, as there is now, it’s just that the really exciting stuff will be jn the public domain once again: we will no longer live in a secretive culture.

Easeintothefuture

08-12-2010, 06:08 AM

i have – what i am hoping is - some final thoughts on the topic of disclosure i’d like to share.

there is paradox deeply embedded in this issue. the men on whom we await, the ones who could make a difference, the people around whose decisions and willingness to speak out pivots the possible transformation of this whole planet; cannot make their move until they are sure the world is a safe place for them and their families to behave in this way, all the time knowing of course, the world will never be truly safe until such disclosures have been made, and the relevant programs of investigation and utilization of technology are well underway.

in all honesty, if it was me working behind the lines and i was responsible for a family every bit as precious to me, as any man or woman’s family could be to them – knowing the kinds of weapons in the hands of my peers - would i come out. i have to say i don’t think so. i would probably be putting my hands together every night and praying for a solution that did not put either the life of my family, or myself in any danger, and leave it at that. that’s fully understandable isn’t it? we shouldn’t be seeking forms of heroism from these men and women that we would not be capable of ourselves.

once we know that we are the world, then we understand we can heal it by healing ourselves.
now this is a great quotation from a book called [please pm for title] that i am currently reading and i am fairly sure the concept fits in neatly with ideas expressed in the law of the one.

perhaps we should look at ways that elements of shame and fear are keeping us from being totally transparent to ourselves and the world, keeping us individually from enjoying the benefits of complete and total peace. perhaps we could engage the dilemma of these men and women as the teaching catalyst it is to see what parts of our life we are as yet unable to share, that we wouldn’t be able to stand up in a press conference and announce to the world – even though by doing so we knew we would be serving our brothers and sisters.

until we are completely honest in all our affairs, and willing to be completely transparent and open about everything - if called upon - such that if we were struck we would chime like a perfect, unflawed bell whose beautiful crystal tone resonated all over the universe, signaling to all whom it may concern: here stands a true man, or woman, uncompromising in their honesty and passion for the truth in all situations, nothing to hide, not a taint of shadow or duplicity in them anywhere… then and only then, will we have the right to stand in the garden and call these men and women out of their caves into the wholesome light of day.

and when both we and they can be sure of their safety… we might just see them emerge.
and wouldn’t that be something…

Easeintothefuture

08-12-2010, 10:39 PM

one more thing- there is a deep conceit wrapped in a whole bundle of fears that is part of the rationale of those in the sec govt.
a rough outline of the fear profile would be: the world is over populated; the system couldn’t stand the revelation of et presence. people need work, you can’t free up a substantial amount of the workforce of the planet by introducing new tech that would be anarchy. blah, blah, blah, fear, fear, fear.

the planet is vastly under-resourced, the deserts could be made green, desalination of the sea could easily occur on a broader scale, people could be educated to value birth control far more than they are now. we’re human beings, we’re are good at solving problems it’s what we do, its what we’ve always done – that’s when we’re not being crippled by secret regimes that think they know better than everyone else. we all know we could have had free energy on this planet years ago – the point is having achieved and adapted to that level of evolution we would have moved on by now to even better systems of care for the people and the planet. and people will always find work of some sort meaningful. as for the et phenomena, yes, if you announce ‘the martians are coming! the martians are coming!’ – as with orson wells broadcast -in the scariest tones you can devise you are going to spook some people. well, well, who’d have predicted that.

but if you set up a gentle staggered program of public education emphasizing our safety at all times there’s is no reason why in 3-6 months the average person on the street shouldn’t know as much as anyone in the deepest black ops projects and be perfectly comfortable with that knowledge – most of the people on the internet who are interested know more than half of it anyway and are bored stupid with the knowledge…
and i haven’t even begun to explore the possibilities and value of positive et mentorship here… because they have the experience of countless civilizations who have made the possible mistakes that lay in our future, their input is going to be invaluable in our decision-making
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now in an important way this is all ok because we are all just boys and girls playing an evolutionary game, but we should remember: the simplest child with an unshakeable faith in the basic goodness of human nature and an optimistic, wholesome trust in the future, has more sense in his or her big toe than you’ll find in any or all of the fear based agendas of these 'enlightened controllers'.

wouldn't it be great if that child grew up in a world where the agendas were love, rather than fear based...

Easeintothefuture

08-14-2010, 04:07 AM

i have been thinking quite deeply - for me - about the issue of disclosure and et mentorship and that tiny itch of impatience and excitement - that i think is general and that i recognize in myself - to see it all come about; and, as a firm advocate of the underlying growth principles of these forums, it's natural to ask: in what way does this world/these issues directly reflect my own process.

well, when you’ve been on the journey for so long with so many encouraging voices and even my own angel whispering from time to time, “lose the lead shoes, you have wings, you can fly…’ i have to admit that part of me says: yes but there’s something beautifully down to earth about the lead shoes and their plodding pace, something comforting and familiar about their perspective on reality - which is always growing anyway - and when you finally take them off something in you knows there gone forever, it’s just wonderful endless sky, then stars... then all those waiting friends... what i am saying here is i am sure there are still parts of me that are not ready for the big changes yet, not ready for those wild revolutionary winds even though they yearn like puppies to lick us in their eager, loving appreciation, and sparkle with an abundance of good things and healing - even so: everything in divine order and timing works well for me. but i like to think if it was proved to me that by jettisoning my own stuckness or love of the familiar i could spare the planet or some of the people in it some pain… that i would switch just like that... i like to think so anyway...

Easeintothefuture

08-15-2010, 02:32 AM

this post is a bit imaginative and focuses on one small level of education and not global rehabilitation, but in the interest of proposing what mentorship might be like… well, why hold back…

i think it was in a camelot [please pm ease for specific names] interview that it was mentioned that there is no g force in ufo’s. think about that for a moment. it means if you are travelling in one of these ships and you want to get to say la from paris, one moment you’re looking down at the sprawling french capital, there is something like a blink involving your intention, and the next you’re looking down at los angeles – it’s as if rather than travelling, the planet instantly relocates beneath you to bring you to the place of your choice, and all you experienced was the sensation of your ship gently suspended… and you can extrapolate from this to journeys spanning the galaxy from one system to another; one second you’re floating high in orbit above earth, a blink of intent, the exterior starscape changes about you and you’re ready to descend down to the planet of your choice in the system of your choice – it’s as if the whole universe was a hologram ready to display to you any aspect of itself, instantly forming around you without you having to leave the comfort of your own ship-board chair… of course if you want some sense of g force for that amazing sensation of speeding across the sky, a blink of intent and there it is, and there you are, skimming through the clouds twisting, turning, swerving, swooping and diving, with every alteration of your course registering on your body like a rollercoaster… some ride huh…

with the ease that some of these things can get around in mind, let me take you on a possible post disclosure/et mentorship journey…

it’s been some time now since we began liaising with the benign et mentors, so we have become quite used to riding in their ships in small groups on field trips. some around the planet to get to know more of the natural beauty, wonders and history of our own mother: say, going deep underwater to look at the unusual creatures there and be told something of where they originated from galactically, or popping over to easter island to walk around and touch some of the incredible statues along with a film and talk that shows what inspired the builders and how and why they were erected, or a sky and land tour of the mexican pyramids again showing how and why they were constructed and the beliefs they embody. possibly more exciting are those excursions based on our own ‘secret history’. one of these might involve, flying through the many underground caves and stopping to explore and take in the vastness and complexity of the various subterranean cities and facilities – some in the antarctic, many in america, some beneath the oceans; or to the moon to look at the abandoned ships, buildings and way stations – some still in use - then there's the six mile high et monument on the hidden side that alex collier was informed is there as well as the 21 mile bridge plainly visible on the photographs… then of course there’s a look into the interior of the moon itself… what else might be on the schedule; mars the surface and underground – is there life on mars... is there sand in the sahara; phobos, interior and exterior; then there's the outer planets and their rings and moons and what they contain... all the time in the company of et mentors to ensure our safety and inform us of the true history of these places, and the role they played in our history… our rightful galactic heritage.

want to know how the kids are learning their history… with genuine images and recordings of those who made it, so film is available of the various dinosaurs, troy, the caesar of your choice, cleopatra, alexander, socrates, aristotle, constantine, marie antoinette, napoleon, washington…

what about christ ratifying the eternal principles of christhood in the sermon on the mount…

it’s only some thoughts towards a possible future, but if it can be this good, it can be better…

even so, no hurry, baby steps and peaceful hearts…

estopatitiana

08-16-2010, 09:44 PM

hello easintothefuture you have some powerful revelations my friend:)

the only reason anyone dies is because they beleive they are going to die.

you are right on the spot with the children. i can reccomend a book about a child that was raised in the ideal setting you mentioned.

the only way the earth is going to change is by the individual changing themselves

disclosure has already happened, it will never be on the mainstream

remember this...jesus didnt ride in the front gate with bells and whistles he rode in on a donkey in the back door.

so the things were all searching for wont show up where we are looking for them. ie some kind of official disclosure.. think about that for a minute

taeko

08-20-2010, 05:24 PM

hmmm.... depens on what kind of personality the e.t. being has. most of them have strange sense of humor and some are verry calm, while others like to play and joke around. some are only telepatic and some try to speak your language which sounds hilarious. i hope you get teach by the one that are verry calm and telepatic. the once with the strange sense of humor can give you a heart attack :p

Natho

08-26-2010, 04:06 PM

hi friends,

ive created this topic after not truly finding one in relation, and this is a hypothetical scenario of a current day landing of beings and you approached method. (material will also relate to the groups 'ra' and 'orion').

here is the scenario;
you are walking through a grassy plane on a warm summer day. you could be alone, or you may have a companion with you. suddenly, a bright light captures your attention and you pause daydreaming. as you focus, to your amazement, a disc shape (or what have you) craft has landed before you and several beings exit and move towards you. instantly, you realise this is an alien visit of sorts and attempt to not soil yourself as they approach you.
"hello human, we have been watching your peoples and have decided that now is the time to walk among you".

now, assuming you've read loo beforehand, what would you do? would you listen without question and follow instructions? would you run for the hills?

secondly, if you discovered they were of the orion group, what would you say/do if you knew that democracy was about to be tossed aside this earth and a harsh format be put in place?

bobfitz

09-14-2010, 07:43 PM

most likely, routine et involvement on our planet has been going on for quite some time. however, disclosure has been extremely limited to a small number of people.

unlikely, the world would freak out if disclosure happened tomorrow. last face it, some of the worst people who have ever incarnated on this planet are hip to et's. they didn't freak out. why would the salt of the earth?

if an et race wanted to overtly conquer earth, they would have done so by now. covert influence seems to be the name of the game for our et brethren (for good or ill).

all that being said, disclosure may not be relevant in the end. it may be more a matter of us raising our consciousness to make ourselves available to the universe than it is a matter of us waiting for more advanced races to part the curtain and join us on our little 3d hologram.

however it plays out, i hope that we have a chance to get this all out in the open and end this limiting (and frankly embarrassing) embargo.