David's Interview with Project Camelot's Dr. Peterson

[Bobbie]

i'm getting that dull pressure in my chest with reference to dr. peterson. david attempted to get some concrete imput from him with reference to what we can personally do to help in elevating the positive energy levels to thwart the negative energy that is affecting humanity at the pivotal point in our history. dr. pete avoided the questions and rather than admit that he didn't have a clue what david was talking about he danced around it and gave answers that had nothing to do with the questions.

dr. pete appears to have an arrogant and combative nature - maybe it was an unconscious reaction to being in the presence of the opposite positive energy as david. i'm not hearing that "ring of truth" in his interview...not that some of what he says couldn't be accurate, i'm just not a disciple at this point. i've seen this guy somewhere before but i can't recollect where and it's going to drive me nuts until i figure it out. i'm feeling it was in some attempt to sell something but i'm not sure. it wasn't on the "sham wow" level but more or less in the same manner in which he gives this interview. :rolleyes:

[Bill]

the videos by david and project camelot were recently posted on the project camelot site.

here is the url: http://www.projectcamelot.org/pete_peterson.html

i watched all four hours, interesting... this man is obviously very intelligent, and it appears that he is bothered about the intelligence, or lack thereof, of the interviewers...

he is definitely a doom and gloomer type person, and part of that concerned me... but, watch, and let us know what you take from the videos.

[TOTHE]

(1) remember, ra, the unit within the social entity demanded this interview take place to effect the quantum timeline.
(2) dr. peterson was part of "black ops" and is coming forward for a clean break. yes, part of his message seemed to promote fear and uncertainty to control the masses, but i felt it was his advice from the heart. take his advice for what you think it is worth and store some acorns for peace of mind at least. you can sense his service to self a little with his mountain valley hideaway..however it may be to shieild his electronics from a emf super pulse. all in all we should admire him for his courage & genius and impact on the medical field. so what if he is somewhat disagreeable, no eye contact and once wore a black hat..i can accept him as he is and as a friend...just keep one eye open all the time when around him.
(3) watch the snowball on disclosure get bigger as others move up.
(4) lets see how obama reacts in october.
(5) we are in exciting times boys and girls, ladies and gentlemen to live in the only generation in human history thus far to decide the future of mankind. lets do it with proper honor and awe while never forgetting our work in service to others.

[bill ottman]

i was excited to watch those interviews after having heard the rumblings for some time, and was fascinated by the things he said. it's obvious he has an incredible amount of knowledge and was fearful about putting himself in a harmful situation. nevertheless, he was brave to come forward, and has probably been dealing with negative energy in those projects for a large amount of his life. this was very clear. everyone in the room was nervous. kerry seemed to maintain humor very well and i appreciated david poking him in the beginning. im laughing now!

it's strange because one would think that a person with that amount of knowledge would understand the benefits of being positive all the time, especially in this type of important situation that's going to be spread to the masses. i did sense his positive nature as well, but felt bad for david constantly having to be on the defense, almost proving himself to be able to participate in scientific discussion on that level. you did a great job david. and bill and kerry too. peace i'm on edge about this china ufo story and also ready to hear david's take on all this new news! namaste

[Nancy]

dr peterson is no doubt very bright and has had many experiences in his life. i do not doubt his abilities as a scientist and inventor. however, when i heard him (audio only) he reminded me of many of the older persons i have known where the line of what had actually happened in their life was blurring with what they had heard or read about.

he has ideas that are not readily accepted by the mainstream and it would be flattering to have an eager audience. i heard his tentativeness/hesitancy about some issues as being mental self-checking. perhaps he was unsure of his facts or what he had said before. his blustering nature perhaps was to cover or protect himself from exposing the fact that he didn't really know the all the answers.

all in all, there was little to no "whistle-blowing". there were few facts given that could be vetted by other sources. there was little he said about himself that could be verified through third parties. for a person experienced in academic research, he did not declare (footnote) his sources or provide substantiating evidence.

i find it sad that kerry and bill promoted this interview the way they did. there just wasn't much substance to it.
nancy in oregon

[MarkM]

i feel that i have today discovered a very special whistleblower, one who put great mental and emotional effort into being aware of certain subjective areas which might be not wise for the health of any present to discuss. in short, he was protecting butts from unwittingly veering off into 'verboten' territory. i picked this up while watching, and knew that the man was very much concerned with the welfare of everyone present.

here is a practical experiencer of many things which david has alluded to, and it's interesting to imagine a merging of experience and intuitively garnered insight, and how the guarded technologies of the bright and humane individuals on the inside may be shared and integrated with the bright wanderer souls who are making their energies known; both having chosen love and light.

it could well be that camelot is being given a taste of something 'bigger', to see how it is handled by the interested masses. who knows? :rolleyes: mark

[Ewhaz]

i was fascinated by this interview, i loved it!

now while he did put out info and a bit of concern for every one present that they should be prepared for the eventuality that things might go south. we need only to look to katrina and see that what he had to say is right in some aspects. no one but yourself can be responsible for your well being. leaving it in other peoples hands is foolish. i think all he was saying was just be responsible for yourself.

that being said, the vast amount of information he talked about was increadible.

i'm still trying to find information concerning some of the topics he spoke about, such as the activator x and the 'ratfish' he spoke about that would be easy to farm for this vital element. i found it could also be sought through grass fed beef as well.

i'd also be interested in his little acupuncture point comb, it sounded quite interesting as well though i don't know that any one has spoken about him starting orders yet for the unit.

the healing technology was quite interesting as well.

he talked about so much that its hard to cover it all in a single post.
i think we all owe him at least our gratitude for coming forward. he is evidence that the information is forcing its way to the surface and we are all going to be even more fascinated as time goes by.

[Matthew Clark]

hi all,

like most people i was eagerly awaiting the release of this interview.

in all honesty after watching the entire interview, i have mixed feelings about it. a bit like when you pay to go and see a highly publicised movie and come out thinking what was all that about! looking at the many comments on p.c forum, i am certainly not alone.

credit where it is due though, i was in awe at the amount of info on all of the good dr's medical achievments. the very fact he had "given" his technologies away to benefit "us" showed a more sto side of him. noboby can doubt his intellegence.

the interview itself was good, imo bill came across as a little star-struck, kerry was very impressive as she kept pushing the boundries and david was intellectual and articulate - an absolute pro.

was it just me or did anyone else pick up on the fact that there seemed to be bad chemistry between david and dr p? it came across quite strong and i felt myself feeling somewhat protective towards david. dr p did come across slightly abrupt in (sort of) answering davids questions. when david mentioned about his research into the pineal gland, dr p sort of brushed him off. david took it in his stride - as ever an absolute professional.

i do not know why p.c said it was unedited when it clearly was. also the one thing that bothered me or should i say annoyed me was the fact dr p would not name the fish oil :confused: this was an industry which operates all over yet he refused to name it. why? also as i recall reference his hideout in the mountains, that bit did come across as i am alright jack.

i would sum up by saying it was enjoyable, i learnt 1 or 2 things along the way but as far as him being probably the best "whistle blower" they have interviewed (pre release statement) i seemed to have not got out of it anything like what i was expecting.


it could well be that camelot is being given a taste of something 'bigger', to see how it is handled by the interested masses. who knows?

a very good point mark, i hope you are right.

finally i salute his courage and thank p.c for all of their hard work in this.
david - as ever you came across positive and asked all the questions i was asking in my own mind. you are brilliant!

matt

[annecat]

i ... and it's interesting to imagine a merging of experience and intuitively garnered insight, and how the guarded technologies of the bright and humane individuals on the inside may be shared and integrated with the bright wanderer souls who are making their energies known; both having chosen love and light.


i encourage anyone on spiritual, scientific or more "mundane" path to read mark's wise words (many many times), as this is our only future

" merging of experience and intuitively garned insight"
with guarded technologies.

and that is very much what dr peterson is doing himself,
being "practical" (or learned from past experiences and probabilities) prepared for possible nature catastrophies, put keep on living his life, planning for future, building his laboratories etc.

and as he many times said "this is our spaceship, planet earth", and we should take care of it, not just being helpless and waiting for our friends to come to save us. (and what would they do with "us" use as slaves ?)

i myself watch all the four hours and asked my children if they would watch some, and althought being tired and irritated after first day at school after summerbreak, they loved to watch dr peterson's interviews.
my son (13) watched with me three hours, and we laughted and agreed with him all the time! yes, yes, we have noticed the same...85 % of people when you talk with them about "aliens or enlightenment" behave like nothing had happened, like they heard nothing , saw nothing, we have wondered that long time ourselves.

my daughter sympathized a lot with dr peterson. "he is just nervous" (who would not be, being like "interrogated", and she said " he is so honest, being openly what he is (patriotic etc) and answers clearly when the question is asked clearly".

after watching all those videos i could not go to bed, i walked around the house, talking to myself...i think that more people should come "out of the closet" and share more, their personal experiences, wanderers and so.

i have thousand and one questions in my mind, and it would help if we could get forum out to discuss further.
~anne

[transiten]

hi

just watched the 3 videos....i really resonate with this whistleblower saying he'd choose bread over gold:) that's a cherokeesaying i've had on my 12stringed guitar for years...when the last fish has been fished, the last tree been cut down etc...you can't eat all that money...

...also yesterday night for some reason i opened the lid on a mustard i bought some year ago just to feel if it smelled ok...i seldom use mustard....but it smelled great...think i'll have some for dinner today:)

namaste from transiten

[NancyA]

there are a couple of interesting threads over at project avalon, the forum website of project camelot, in which are discussed most or all of the questions you have mentioned in this thread. one participant used dowsing to help with determining the veracity of various assertions made by dr. p.

if you need a link, feel free to p.m. me.

i watched all four hours of the interview. there seems to be a disinformation distortion present, and as always, our discernment is the ultimate guide.

[ANJ]

i too have mixed feelings about the interview, but am trusting david's intuition on pete peterson. he has said that he doesn't necessarily agree with him on everything, but finds him genuine. david stated in his email sent to pete peterson:
"our conversations were some of the most fascinating i’ve ever had and i would love to do it again some time. there are many ways in which our knowledge complements each other nicely." this tells me there is more than we know.

i am also looking forward to david's next post:

"pete, your email is extremely fascinating in light of the very, very intense dream messages i’ve been getting, which is about to go into a big post on my website. the only other time i had messages coming in this strongly before an event was prior to 9/11, but this time it doesn’t appear that it’s a disaster as much as a very substantial change."

interesting times, these.

[NancyA]

meant to say in my earlier post that i thought david did an excellent job on the dr. p. interviews.

what was it that the interviewee did not want david to perceive, that he felt he must so openly display such negativity? certainly dr. p. was aware that tone and facial expression would be easy to observe on video.

it seemed to me that dr. p. was more focused on the material plane -- the "constitutionalist," resource-stockpiling, government-is-evil perspective, and less concerned with (sometimes disdainful of) the metaphysical implications.

i also believe that there were two versions of the interview, and the fight was over which version would be released. i'm basing that on the sometimes sloppy editing, especially in the first part. it's pretty obvious that the "all this is readily available on the internet" version was released (it was with those words that dr. p. ended the interview.) that is only my opinion and i have no evidence to back that up.

[annecat]

[quote=nancya;50539]...it seemed to me that dr. p. was more focused on the material plane -- the "constitutionalist," resource-stockpiling, government-is-evil perspective, and less concerned with (sometimes disdainful of) the metaphysical implications. ]

but that all is just fine, perfect.

as i wrote in my previous post, he was honest about all that, that makes him "genuine". in order to progress as a human race, we must learn to be more tolerant, not so judgemental, to understand that all kind of people are equally needed.

the worst thing what we could do is to start analyzing dr pete peterson's personality, and whole identity, or did he or didn't he have "bad chemistry" with david etc. ( read david's comments posted 7/18/09 ! ) as that would definetely make other potential "whistle blowers " to hide even deeper.

and come on...we are not giving here any oscars for best actors, films or editing .:mad: think about how quick all happened, the meeting etc. and if you need better editing, start sending more money for david and project camelot folks, so they can hire professional staff to do that!;)

and i am quite sure that bill was not "star struck", he just have good manners, respects older man who has vast life experiences and academical knowledge ! but he/dr peterson is not that kind of "older people" who get lost in their memories ( "blurr the line "!), as it is most interesting and important to know "where does that person come from, what has he or she experienced" in order to understand the whole story, the contests, even if one is only interested of academical research of dr pete peterson's interview.

(he did not provide," declare, footnote his sources" or "substantiating evidence" as it was, or as i got it, just "relaxed, friendly" (light irrogation) conversation, not scientific hard fact forum, teaching arena. )

or am i just "naive" ? hah. ~anne

[Bill]

annecat and others,

i wanted to clarify my post, i had no intentions of being judgmental. i had hoped to indicate how his message resonated, or did not resonate with me.

i was struck by the overall 'hunker down, fend for yourself' message that i seemed to hear. what further concerned me was how it appeared that he felt there was not much of a spiritual/positive side to the message.

having read this, not sure if i should post it, as it appears that i am being judgmental. i was bothered by some of what pete said, and that part that bothered me was what i saw as a 'doom and gloom' message. i do plan to be prepared, but i also do not see myself as shutting myself in a cave, and fending off all the beggars that will come forward.

[NancyA]

annecat and others,

i wanted to clarify my post, i had no intentions of being judgmental. i had hoped to indicate how his message resonated, or did not resonate with me.

. . .

bill, i am grateful for sharing your perspective in your previous post and in this post, too! thank you! you expressed yourself very clearly and with tact and consideration.

free and open discussion includes considering different points of view. one can disagree or find fault with something and still be a tolerant person.

tolerance does not mean turning off one's discernment.

one of the quickest ways to "shut down" an honest discussion is to call someone judgmental.

so many of us in this particular vibration -- wanderers, lightworkers, whatever -- almost live in fear of being labeled judgmental or intolerant. i am often impressed that when such a label is put forth towards another, it can mean that a deep chord has been struck and there is some distortion as to whether such a sentiment can be readily acknowledged -- in either the "accused" or the "accuser." :)

i would encourage everyone to state their views as they feel them and experience them, with the consideration, kindness, and tactfulness that are abundantly evident in each and every post! it is why i visit here nearly every day: that encouragement and love is our lifeblood in these amazing times.

do not be afraid of sounding judgmental. each person knows what it is in his/her heart. on a message board, we are limited to well-chosen words; we are not able to easily use other forms of communication such as tone, cadence, facial expressions, and so on.

we can choose love instead of fear -- which is david's defining message to us all -- and keep the communication flowing! i love you all for what i learn from you every day.

[Truth180]

the impression i got was considering his age. he is pretty much stuck in his ways of what he believes and also reminds me of some people like him.

what i found interesting was when david brought up about how everything is guided by consciousness. peterson called it just "information", but no explanation of what or where that information may come from. in which in his view its informatiom of thought but not from consciousness i think.

[hazyjane]

the "factor x" dr. peterson mentions is well known among the folks at the weston a. price foundation (a nutritional organization).
it can be found in x-factor butter oil (or any grass-fed dairy- it's actually vit. k2). the ratfish is also called skate and you can get skate oil and x-factor here:
[please pm for link]

[Threethree]

the good doctor peterson emanates a vibration of service to two masters.

he appears in pixalated form to construct a blocky, earthy vibration that is tainted and marred by that which is not curvey and stellar(the geometry of the loving aspect; no joins, no harsh change in resonance, a sweetness that the mind finds lovely and pleasant)

through a paranoid organism, some truths are being revealed, but there is nothing he is spee-king that is not already known by the higher octave.

the technolodgies exist, because they are constructs of the aspect of what is, in a clumsy and less than perfect form.

this is the paradigm of now, as now is forever extending back and forth.

*(plastic is crude)

[annecat]

. i do plan to be prepared, but i also do not see myself as shutting myself in a cave, and fending off all the beggars that will come forward.

hi bill,:), my grandmother had four children and pregnant for fifth one when her husband died in wwii (finns against russians). she lived on her own on a small farm in middle of finland where winters were long, cold (-40c) and dark, growing season very short, but she always had food, clothes, and warm place to stay for those who passed by her farm, she is was not religious, she kept it to herself, but she knew that there are more than our eyes can meet, never did i hear her complain, or say bad word about anyone.
i might have learned something from her...or is in my dna?

as i do not have that " little farm", as i like the idea to have my whole life in a backbag that could be packed in five minutes, i might end up being one of those "beggars" knocking on dr peterson's door. as i am pretty good at chopping wood after living on a small island in scotland without electricity,
good at picking wild berries, fast knitter, good at baking and cooking, he might even hire me for a while ...and i am very good at mindwashing, manipulating people, that is on black and white.( written by a judge, after my children kept on saying that they want to live with me, the verdict was that the brainwashing was so deep that even "therapy" could not reverse it.)

what are the camps that dr p mentioned ?

and what is that "healing machine", hmm, my son is due to have a new open heart surgery in a year or two, and i have wondered about that.

( dr p mentioned "the heart to heart connection" with the new born baby and the mom, i had that with my first one, she loved to sleep days and nights on my chest "heart to heart", so she was telling stories by the age of one! and when she was four she had taught herself to read and write in two languages and begged me to let her to take part in french lessons as well. and when she was two she told that i was not from here...and had that "et friend". but my son, as he spent much time in a hospital did not learn to read until he was seven and half ( but has not stop ever since, and very much the first book was long novel, harry potter, and he mixed languages).

i find it quite interesting that the places which i feel "safe places to relocate" like norway, switzerland, pyrenees, arizona, colorado, peru have lot of ufo sightings. ( i would love to see the phoenix lights...grand canyon..)~anne

[Siren Master]

i was not impressed. i was, in fact, disappointed especially after waiting so long for the release. i turned it off when he started dissing others. he sounds like his cynicism has gotten the better of him. i have enough of my own cynicism and disappointment to overcome, his info was not helpful.

[Jasper]

the more i get into this stuff, the easier it gets to spot fakes.

my opinion is that due to their previous success, bill and kerry are being sucked in by dis-info insiders. ok, they may make the right noises, but don't really say anything of substance.

the one point of interest for me came when pete mentioned activator x, and the ratfish business. i've read the weston price tome 'nutrition and physical degeneration', and i was a subscriber to the price-pottenger newsletter. never was a ratfish, or any other fish mentioned as the source of factor x.

i did a search on the 'net for 'ratfish liver oil', and came up with nothing.

it was obvious from the interview that whatever pete said during the previous 12 hour interview had convinced all three that he was the real deal. however, this was not portrayed in the much hyped interview.

on the bright side, peterson has usurped george green in the b.s. dept !!

yeah, c'mon george, what really was the deal with the ekkers, durham et al?

[annecat]

[quote=jasper;50574]... bill and kerry are being sucked in by dis-info insiders. .. really say anything of substance.
...ed activator x, and the ratfish business. i've read the weston price tome 'nutrition and physical degeneration'...
on the bright side, peterson has usurped george green in the b.s. dept !!]

hi jasper, it is so interesting how people saw (and felt) that interview with dr p so differently, like i was almost "blind" to all that ratfish or robot business, as it does not interest me at all, (like same to me is it hard fact or not), so in that sense this forum is most enlightening as you get it here "right", thank you.

what is b.s. dept?

and :mad: i hope that no one is looking for any "prophets" any more, it is all there, in "the information field" and we just need these "whistle blowers" or whatever to come out to inspire and made us ask and demand more. i am kind of waiting for real "riots" to start.

i watched bill and kerry's own interview, and i wondered what did we miss when they said that they get "zillions" of letters from people who say that "they are the most important people on earth" from ufo witnesses and so. what if the real truths are hidden in there. to be honest, i might even myself lightly feel that way, as no one really comes out telling their own "ufo" experiences, and then you start feeling that maybe no one else have had same kind of experiences. and it is not just dreams and blurred pictures.
i am really beating myself daily,( now i even got time !) why cannot i remember more, find hard facts, as when i "come out":) (never) i do not want to be "ridiculed" or "interviewed" but find people who have experienced "the same", and join hands (energies) form "a community", and "open a portal" or whatever.

i have told myself children so many times that they are fed up with me, (mydaughter even gets headaches (and vomits) when my energies get too high but not "clear")
i find the living on planet earth most boring, people annoyingly stupid, (and smelly!), i tend to get depressed, frustrated, nothing really interest me,

and the only joy or reason for living is " one day" to go back to that spaceship.

~anne

[Ladan]

annecat and others,

i wanted to clarify my post, i had no intentions of being judgmental. i had hoped to indicate how his message resonated, or did not resonate with me.

i was struck by the overall 'hunker down, fend for yourself' message that i seemed to hear. what further concerned me was how it appeared that he felt there was not much of a spiritual/positive side to the message.

having read this, not sure if i should post it, as it appears that i am being judgmental. i was bothered by some of what pete said, and that part that bothered me was what i saw as a 'doom and gloom' message. i do plan to be prepared, but i also do not see myself as shutting myself in a cave, and fending off all the beggars that will come forward.

this whole interview did not resonate with me at all. i do not understand how such an intelegent man disregards spiritual side of life. it usually happens the other way around.
science ppl through their research and studies usually come face to face with spiritual truths, realising that there is something more to our laws of nature, cosmos, our bodies and etc. look at einstein, darwin, they all had come to believe that there is god inteligence hehind material reality. ppl who study our bodies come to see the harmony of how our different body systems, organs work togeather, recognising higher intelegence.
i respect his choosing to be a man of facts and science, focusing only on material. but for me it is only half the story.
peace.

[samncheese]

this man has had his head in the underworld for over 40 years. he is a different generation then most of us. they were taught to see the world from the "stand on your own two feet", point of view.

as for the x factor, it is k2 and can be purchased in the form of "nattokiasen", or mk-7, as a supplimental. however, it appears that it has been all but removed from the american diet.

i feel that what we are feeling against him is this; i think he is coming forward not for our sake, but as repentance for his part in making the world what it is. this is a selfish act on his part, and will put many of us off, as we feel the conflict in him. this does not change the value of his information nor change the value of good advice from an oldster.

brian

[Ladan]

there are a couple of interesting threads over at project avalon, the forum website of project camelot, in which are discussed most or all of the questions you have mentioned in this thread. one participant used dowsing to help with determining the veracity of various assertions made by dr. p.

if you need a link, feel free to p.m. me.

i watched all four hours of the interview. there seems to be a disinformation distortion present, and as always, our discernment is the ultimate guide.

a real good fact checking going on there! thanks for the tip. the more i think about it the more i see how dr p mixed truth with lies. cats do not eat muscle tissue? this is really something! really? just watch national geographic or go to a zoo. quite the opposit. big cats looove the muscles and live intestines behind.
i am sorry but he said nothing usefull only a bunch of psi-fi stories.

[DAB]

folks...things are ratcheting up daily at lightning-energy-speed-intensity and will be sensed by more and more...more and more each moment in the now by people in your life in front of you that were not quite awake and aware in the recent past. the 15%(service-to-others) around the world are coming together right now...right now(as discussed in the interview) the other 85% are either going to get on the spiritual bandwagon of wisdom/love/exponential change or head out elsewhere to adjust their service-to-self energy in another evolving arena.

i do not understand any of the posts in this thread that "take-away" from the spiritual significance/time-line-changing-confirmation of this interview...coming from an inventor/scientist that simply wishes to share things that he needs to share to help end any and all secrecy.

did any of you detractors listen to part 2...did any of you "really" listen to peterson's response to david's inquiries regarding matters that daniel had brought forth with david in the past?

why do i feel in my heart that detractors are coming out of the woodwork as never before all over the internet simply because all of the secrets in all arenas of our lives are being uncovered as never before and detractors all over are so desperately trying to keep that lid from blowing sky-high...it is simply too late ...the lid has blown ...wisdom and love are dominating : ) : ) : )

and oh my is my spirit elated in every way, shape and form!!!

[NancyA]

folks...things are ratcheting up daily at lightning-energy-speed-intensity and will be sensed by more and more...more and more each moment in the now by people in your life in front of you that were not quite awake and aware in the recent past. the 15%(service-to-others) around the world are coming together right now...right now(as discussed in the interview) the other 85% are either going to get on the spiritual bandwagon of wisdom/love/exponential change or head out elsewhere to adjust their service-to-self energy in another evolving arena.

i do not understand any of the posts in this thread that "take-away" from the spiritual significance/time-line-changing-confirmation of this interview...coming from an inventor/scientist that simply wishes to share things that he needs to share to help end any and all secrecy.

did any of you detractors listen to part 2...did any of you "really" listen to peterson's response to david's inquiries regarding matters that daniel had brought forth with david in the past?

why do i feel in my heart that detractors are coming out of the woodwork as never before all over the internet simply because all of the secrets in all arenas of our lives are being uncovered as never before and detractors all over are so desperately trying to keep that lid from blowing sky-high...it is simply too late ...the lid has blown ...wisdom and love are dominating : ) : ) : )

and oh my is my spirit elated in every way, shape and form!!!

hello dab. i share your elation at the coming shift of the ages. i believe all supporters of david's work share your elation, too.

if it were not for the exercise of discernment, david himself would have nothing to write about! there would be no divine cosmos, and there would not be this forum! he is able to clearly describe the outward events as they unfold, without any sugarcoating, yet the undergirding message to us is one of love, not fear. that in itself is an amazing accomplishment.

similarly, the word "whistleblower" describes someone who exercises discernment, who says, i'm not going to turn the other way while someone or a group of "someones" brings harm to others. the whistleblower is the "stock in trade" at project camelot.

i would like to mention that the 15/85 percent split, as mentioned in the interview with dr. peterson, refers to off-world ("et") heritage. according to dr. peterson, his dna studies allowed him to "drill down" to a 15-percent of all currently-living planet earth human beings who exhibit off-world ancestry and who are thus immune to mind-control tactics.

someone could be immune to mind-control tactics and still be service-to-self.

in fact, the coming harvest may be much smaller than 15 percent. :)

there are many descriptions of how earth humans originated here, the most compelling of which, in my opinion, is described in the law of one series. it seems to me that the percentage of et ancestry would be much higher than 15 percent, just based on the study of the law of one series alone.

i do not recall any mention of the sto/sts dichotomy from dr. peterson.

if you have time, i would really appreciate a specific point or two from the interview -- perhaps the part 2 that you mention in your post -- that helped to affirm your faith in the work of dr. peterson.

one of the interesting by-products of this interview is a growing awareness, as evidenced by many of the comments here and at project avalon, that the answers are within, that we should not be expending our energy awaiting the "next big revelation." i think that's a great lesson!

[TOTHE]

this is my second post reflecting on the camelot, dr. pete & david show. we are all on a learning curve here on this planet, not withstanding passing though the galactic plane, torsion waves, planetary frequency and the resulting effect on our dna. me and most of us have calcified pineal glands as hard as a rock, probably make good golf balls after we croak.
for me that interview untied a lot of knots and linked loose threads gained from a lifetime of accumulated knowledge, common sense and sifting through information and disinformation-information. i can see how everyone in the galactic logos knows all about earth, we must be more entertaining as a soap opera as "all my children" on tv is to us. from what we know from david, ra is sticking around in a lower dimensional level to see that things are done right and kick ass because we are getting complacent chewing bubble gum. from david's 9/11 blog yesterday it looks like an possible intervention by a logos is underway because of an interference or breaking quarantine by some sort of malevolent entity/ nwo?
meanwhile down here on earth we should concentrate on cleaning our soiled nest as we move through the timeline.
(1) from dr. pete we learned about vitamin k2, d3 deficiency & skate liver oil to clean up the cause of the hardening of the arteries. this will be bad news for big pharma because of all the drugs manufactured to treat the symptoms of cholesterol & heart disease. let us pity and forgive big pharma for they are in "service to self" and know not what they do.
(2) from dr. pete, the beneficial piezoelectric property of teeth and the importance of keeping them for good health.
(3) from project camelot interview & links with jim humble we learned about the most powerful antioxidant known, chlorine dioxide. jim humbles ebooks shows how clo2++ in mms can kill any known pathogen, aids, malaria, pancreatic cancer, gingivitis, abscess and anaerobic bacteria. in addition it will leach out a lifetime of accumulated lead, mercury and pcbs.
make sure you continue to take your vitamins and mineral supplements or a good balanced diet if you are effecting a cure or general maintenance. in jim humble's ebook you can find out how to make mms at home for a "service to others" duty.
(4) from what i know of the superconducting property of monatomic platinum heavy metals element group that a single monatomic molecule of ruthenium at the end of the dna strand turns it into an antenna on the quantum level. google for orme, monatomic gold, david hudson or white gold and info on how to make it yourself. that molecule of ruthenium will cause the dna strand to repair itself from the data stored in the "junk dna''. while passing through the galactic plane torsion area it would be good oppertunity to help our dna antenna all we can.
(5) from project camelot dr. bill deagel and david's blog we learn about nano-silver and the 2 micron "magic bullet" that a virus cannot defend against. google nano-silver, american biotech labs patent or [commercial product] for more info.
(6) dr. pete is in service to others, his revelations helped us all in making a lot of connections when you think about it.
(7) we have a lot of work ahead of us when we are confronted with the 85% knuckleheads.

[vjvousden]

this may be irrelevant now anyway but the one thing that bothered me more than the other things others have mentioned was that whenever david asked questions or remarked on things, pete wouldn't looked at him! he was blanking him out, didn't respect him or couldn't face him and tell untruths? not sure but it was creepy. mostly peterson did his monologue off into space rather than addressing anyone directly. it was like he could not look them in the eye. if you read body language, this doesn't seem good. how valuable this info is will tell with time, i guess. :confused:

also, anne, i live in phoenix and i'm still waiting to see the phx. lights and i look out every night!
valarie

[ajackson1954]

i saw more sts traits than sto traits. i am not counting the sto traits that were described by the good doctor since he unfortunately does not appear to hold the truth in very high regard.

his self-aggrandizement (an sts trait) was excessive and questionable:

at age 10 he built rockets that held world records. even if he did do it how is that relevant

is descended on both sides of his family from long lines of inventors who "were significant in affecting things that affected humanity in virtually every kind of field." think about that claim for a moment.

researched acupuncture meridians with dr jean-claude darras in paris by injecting potassium into acupuncture points. i found an article by darras in 1992 that listed all the researchers who had worked on the topic and there was no mention of peterson. peterson's claim that he understands acupuncture is false. his description of it was confused and incomplete. he confused the holographic use of the hand to treat the body with the use of points on the hand to diagnose and treat organs. these are two distinctly different modalities. the locations he gave for the points on either side of joints is wrong. his claim that he designed a machine to diagnose and treat illnesses using acupuncture points on hands and that this technology is in thousands of clinics with 1.4 million treatments is just nonsense. there is such a machine invented by a japanese doctor but it requires a well-trained acupuncture physician to operate it.

his comments about being in the 15% with different dna and looking down on the other 85% is elitist and sts

his arrogant body language ignoring the interviewer (david) and giving his answers to bill was strange to say the least. he also mumbled and seemed to lose track of what he was saying when david questioned him. it is possible he avoided eye contact because he was lying and strong eye contact would make that difficult.

doom and gloom and terms like "meltdown" are sts.

other signs of lying were darting eyes and slow thoughtful responses.

his vague answers and refusal to get specific are also suspect.

he is using fear and selling himself as the saviour.

it is not my intent to simply detract. but when i see someone lie for their own benefit and self-aggrandizement, i feel the need to point out some untruths and inconsistencies.

hope this helps.

[PriestOfLight]

his claim that he designed a machine to diagnose and treat illnesses using acupuncture points on hands and that this technology is in thousands of clinics with 1.4 million treatments is just nonsense. there is such a machine invented by a japanese doctor but it requires a well-trained acupuncture physician to operate it.


the machines he described are called bioenergetic machines. i am getting trained on one. it doesn't use acupunture, it is more based off of reflexology. i have gone to a practitioner to have a body scan done on my son and myself. there are many companies that make this machine and my friend who is a practitioner is getting me to get trained on the machine. the history as described by dr. pete is accurate as far as i have learned.

love and light

paul

[Jetamus]

well he's a whistle blower, not an angel.

what matters is if he's telling the truth, at least as far as he knows it.
and david seems to think he's valuable which is good enough for me.

[NancyA]

this may be irrelevant now anyway but the one thing that bothered me more than the other things others have mentioned was that whenever david asked questions or remarked on things, pete wouldn't looked at him! he was blanking him out, didn't respect him or couldn't face him and tell untruths? not sure but it was creepy. mostly peterson did his monologue off into space rather than addressing anyone directly. it was like he could not look them in the eye. if you read body language, this doesn't seem good. how valuable this info is will tell with time, i guess. :confused:

also, anne, i live in phoenix and i'm still waiting to see the phx. lights and i look out every night!
valarie

valarie, i know what you mean about how dr. peterson was not looking right at david when he answered david's questions. when he answered the questions, i think he was looking at the person behind the camera: bill or kerry as it happened to be.

in his defense, it was not an ideal arrangement for a video interview. it seemed to be a small motel room, and i'm sure that everyone involved would have much rather had a larger space.

i was distracted by dr. peterson's negativity towards david. it could be that the seating arrangement was annoying dr. peterson -- maybe he was wishing that david would have moved to the other side of the dining bar. but if that were all that was bothering him, he could have made his discomfort known and taken away the annoyance, perhaps.

it really did seem that something else was going on.

i don't doubt that dr. peterson had some good points. i can "fault" him for being too focused on the material plane, but at the same time i know that we can learn from that perspective. i do not appreciate the "gloom and dodm" predictions, but i also know that project camelot interviews are almost always of that sort. (i agree with ajackson that it is an sts trait.)

in looking at the totality, my concern is that there is a disinformation overlay. i have the utmost respect for bill and kerry, and yet i scratch my head when i hear bill say that this is the most important interview they have ever done.

in my opinion, the most important interview that bill and kerry have ever done is the interview of david wilcock! :d

[DAB]

why the apparent concern for david's feelings?
david is a big boy and he knows what he is doing in the interview and he knows that peterson continues to keep eye contact primarily on bill at the camera and reacts with mannerisms to questions...especially those that are a bit more spiritually aligned than scientifically aligned.

peterson has been inventing above and beyond the cutting edge for years and years and many of his inventions/creations have been plagiarized and he simply does not care as long as they are kept reasonably pure and are doing good for humanity.

once again i do not understand all the negative feedback particularly from some people that seem to have just recently appeared in the posting realm here. hmmm...

he is coming forward from behind the scenes...and will help open the door wider for others to do the same...this is ultimately the key benefit!

the vastness of secrets must come undone right now...and interviews like this simply help this energy of truth go exponential.

each of us are stepping up and becoming masters of creation...
the masters of manipulation are about to be totally de-energized in this new reality we are helping to create!

interviews like this are a tremendous catalyst for the good of this change to wisdom and love and truth...because it simply continues to motivate the 'white hats' behind the scenes in government and military and commerce that are taking risks and helping to change timelines for the good of all, right now!

and you and i can change the timeline by every good act we perform right in front of us to help the pure and truthful and loving timelines come to fruition in the now!

[Meriut]

i am really not sure what to make of pete peterson......i guess i have to trust david on this.

my feelings after listening to the interview are mixed, but i did not get the feeling of hope and upliftment (is that even a word?) that i get after hearing david speak. seemed to be a fai amount of ego there ( rightly earned i guess), but i was left pretty cold hearing dr peterson's words and only at the last few minutes did i get a hint of warmth from him, which i suppose is neither here nor there. i do feel he had to (or chose to) hold so much back that there really wasn't a lot of "new" information coming forth.

i did get the impression that he was all science and little focus on the spiritual side of things which always makes me personally a bit uneasy. but then who am i to judge anyone else's sts or sto??


anyhow...great thanks to pc - bill, kerry & david for taking the time to do this interview. certainly worth listening to!! (would have loved to hear about all the "off the record stuff! :) )


now to listen to the other interviews....am looking forward to the henry deacon one. (anyone ever watch the show "eureka" on scifi and note the scientist who seems to know everything is named "henry deacon"??)

[PriestOfLight]

it dawn on me that dr peterson is me. you know, the law of one. we are all one. if he is sts or sto, he is still me or a reflection of me. and dually noted i do take precautions in case something does happen, though i worry that it invites in the universe to show me a new lesson about squirreling away supplies.

as for his view on "doom and gloom". this did not bother me in the sense that this thinking wasn't a doom and gloom scenario in the 70's (yes, this is not a new prediction), but an idea that we needed to prepare in case. he is obviously from this time period and his opinion just hasn't changed. he comes from older generation of thinking.

i didn't feel him being arrogant. people that are confident and sure of themself often come accross as such to others that have little information on the subject. i see this in myself also and when anyone is sure of themselves they can come accross as such. it does not surprise me he may come off as a little arrogant, but i am sure, if he is like me, he will also fully admit when he is wrong on a subject.

all and all, i was only concerned about the lack of information and did become concern at his ability to not answer a question in a very truthfull manner as if he didn't know the answer.

cassidy obviously crossed the line, but she pushes issues in most interview and isn't concerned about the awkwardness it seems to cause. in a way, what he didn't answer actual produced some insites into what he knew. she plays by her own rules, which i can appreciate. it reminds me of old school hard nosed reporting.

love and light

paul

[ajackson1954]

this is an attempt to address david's question about acupuncture points and clarify some of the disinformation given by dr peterson. as a licensed acupuncture physician i am concerned about this uninformed attack on the profession. i also consider some of the statements made by peterson to be reckless and potentially harmful. i strongly suggest that anyone interested in acupuncture, and that includes david, should research the truth about the subject.

first a quote from ra, session 49 question 5. the reference to acupuncture is in the 3rd para of ra's answer.

"questioner: will you expand on the positive and negative polarizations in general and how they apply to individuals and planets, etc.? i think there is a correlation here, but i’m not sure.

ra: i am ra. it is correct that there is a correlation between the energy field of an entity of your nature and planetary bodies, for all material is constructed by means of the dynamic tension of the magnetic field. the lines of force in both cases may be seen to be much like the interweaving spirals of the braided hair. thus positive and negative wind and interweave forming geometric relationships in the energy fields of both persons, as you would call a mind/body/spirit complex, and planets.

the negative pole is the south pole or the lower pole. the north or upper pole is positive. the crisscrossing of these spiraling energies form primary, secondary, and tertiary energy centers. you are familiar with the primary energy centers of the physical, mental, and spiritual body complex. secondary points of the crisscrossing of positive and negative center orientation revolve about several of your centers. the yellow-ray center may be seen to have secondary energy centers in elbow, in knee, and in the subtle bodies at a slight spacing from the physical vehicle at points describing diamonds about the entity’s naval area surrounding the body.

one may examine each of the energy centers for such secondary centers. some of your peoples work with these energy centers, and you call this acupuncture. however, it is to be noted that there are most often anomalies in the placement of the energy centers so that the scientific precision of this practice is brought into question. like most scientific attempts at precision, it fails to take into account the unique qualities of each creation.

the most important concept to grasp about the energy field is that the lower or negative pole will draw the universal energy into itself from the cosmos. therefrom it will move upward to be met and reacted to by the positive spiraling energy moving downward from within. the measure of an entity’s level of ray activity is the locus wherein the south pole outer energy has been met by the inner spiraling positive energy.

as an entity grows more polarized this locus will move upwards. this phenomenon has been called by your peoples the kundalini. however, it may better be thought of as the meeting place of cosmic and inner, shall we say, vibratory understanding. to attempt to raise the locus of this meeting without realizing the metaphysical principles of magnetism upon which this depends is to invite great imbalance".

this quote highlights the time/space aspect of acupuncture. it also highlights the problems involved in trying to use acupuncture as a purely physical science. acupuncture is a healing art that requires an ability on the part of the practitioner to perceive and treat the time/space energy.

most of peterson's claims/information on the subject are simply wrong and it would be pointless to wade through all of it. i will address some of the most misleading and harmful.

he claims that acupuncturists "don't want you to know" that the whole system of acupuncture is basically rubbing nodules on your fingers. by doing this, he claims, you will "feel really really good" and you can "alleviate almost any problem you have." "that's what an acupuncturist does" he states. this implies that acupuncturists are hiding something that you can do yourself in order to charge you for doing the same thing. any skill, talent, ability or desire to heal on the part of acupuncturists can be easily replaced with a pen and peterson's technique. why the unfounded and generalized attack on the acupuncture profession? what is it based on?

the attack is based on peterson's false, confused, and misleading oversimplification. his claim that his technique will make you feel really good and alleviate almost any problem is simply snake root oil quackery. if you don't believe me try his technique on someone who is sick or seriously ill.

during his demonstration he invents two meridians that do not exist (lymphatic and circulation) and gets the location of the lung meridian wrong.

he also gets the location of the acupuncture points wrong. there are not on either side of joints.

he says the meridians end in teeth roots. no they do not. he says people who get extractions or root canals get sick. no they do not.

when david tries to get him to clarify the anatomy of the meridian, he evades the question. when david tries to get an explanation of the interaction between the acupuncture system and the so called information field peterson just cops out. david looks at him with disbelief. the individual who had just reduced all of acupuncture down to rubbing fingers claimed it would take 2 hours to explain and no there was no short version. he said it's "because we're built that way."

of course he cannot explain the interaction because it is the interaction described by ra above and it requires an understanding of time/space energy.

acupuncture is extremely effective when done properly by someone trained and gifted in the art. attempts to explain acupuncture in purely materialistic terms or remove the metaphysical aspect and reduce it to mechanics and machinery are actually based on blindness or refusal to see time/space energy.

[NancyA]

this is an attempt to address david's question about acupuncture points and clarify some of the disinformation given by dr peterson. as a licensed acupuncture physician i am concerned about this uninformed attack on the profession. i also consider some of the statements made by peterson to be reckless and potentially harmful. i strongly suggest that anyone interested in acupuncture, and that includes david, should research the truth about the subject.

<snip>

this quote highlights the time/space aspect of acupuncture. it also highlights the problems involved in trying to use acupuncture as a purely physical science. acupuncture is a healing art that requires an ability on the part of the practitioner to perceive and treat the time/space energy.

most of peterson's claims/information on the subject are simply wrong and it would be pointless to wade through all of it. i will address some of the most misleading and harmful.

<snip>

the attack is based on peterson's false, confused, and misleading oversimplification. his claim that his technique will make you feel really good and alleviate almost any problem is simply snake root oil quackery. if you don't believe me try his technique on someone who is sick or seriously ill.

<snip>

when david tries to get him to clarify the anatomy of the meridian, he evades the question. when david tries to get an explanation of the interaction between the acupuncture system and the so called information field peterson just cops out. david looks at him with disbelief. the individual who had just reduced all of acupuncture down to rubbing fingers claimed it would take 2 hours to explain and no there was no short version. he said it's "because we're built that way."

<snip>

acupuncture is extremely effective when done properly by someone trained and gifted in the art. attempts to explain acupuncture in purely materialistic terms or remove the metaphysical aspect and reduce it to mechanics and machinery are actually based on blindness or refusal to see time/space energy.

thank you, ajackson, for your thorough explanation. :)

have you thought about sending an email directly to david?

from david's reaction to dr. peterson, as you describe in your post, it seems that david sensed that something was off.

i am most grateful to hear from someone with extensive knowledge and experience/wisdom in acupuncture. and count me relieved that there is hope for those of us who have had root canals. :eek:

you had to take a lot of time from your day to compose this post, so thank you very much!

[ajackson1954]

thank you, ajackson, for your thorough explanation. :)

have you thought about sending an email directly to david?

from david's reaction to dr. peterson, as you describe in your post, it seems that david sensed that something was off.

i am most grateful to hear from someone with extensive knowledge and experience/wisdom in acupuncture. and count me relieved that there is hope for those of us who have had root canals. :eek:

you had to take a lot of time from your day to compose this post, so thank you very much!

nancy

thanks for the positive feedback.

i will send an email to david.

[bobfitz]

i just attended bob dean's workshop at the ufo conference in santa clara. he said that there is zero chance obama or anyone else in government will disclose anything - ever.

his reasoning: imagine if the great satan of america announced that all world religions are bs and everyone at the top has known this for years. bad scene. won't happen in his opinion.

however, dean seems to admire the work of the "three steven's of the apocalypse." steven greer, steven bassett, and steven spielberg. the disclosure project, paradigm research group, and the movies/tv programs of spielberg (e.g., close encounters, et, indiana jones crystal skulls, and taken) all are "gently and slowly" paving the way for actual global unveiling of et participation. in fact, he claims that there are two spielberg films and a tv program coming out that will blow everyone away and really get people talking about our alien friends. he also gave some props to chris carter of x-files fame.

bob dean did not provide any opinion on how or when we will make contact on an open and global scale. but, he stated that we will continue to work with the et's behind the scenes until we are ready. we are on an evolutionary path that will unfold over the next 10,000 years. in the next 100-200 years we will become space travelers. what happens between now and then, he did not say.

my .02:
though i was greatly disappointed to hear dean's assertion that there will be zero government disclosure, i find it hard to argue with his pov. the et's are already working with our governments and small groups of individuals. i think our friends in high places will simply act without gov't permission and reveal themselves once a tipping point is reached across the global population.

[transiten]

steven greer says in the video in davids latest news that high ranking persons say it's pple like him and other ufologists that don't have any high positions that shall make the diclosure and then governments will follow. he even said that one goverment, he wouldn't mention which, already said they were ready to cooperate.....

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[transiten]

time just turned 22.33 when i sent my post. i think bob dean is on the fearmongering path, unless he has changed since 2008.

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[capt.libra]

dr peterson was like a lot of people here in idaho. reading everyones opinions of pp made me chuckle more than once. he is an old military man and would have a hard time changing his demeanor. his fear of the younger generation to me is well understood, although i am one.

i live in boise idaho and operate a small retail busness. being a hunter and fisherman i bet i can tell you where dr. petersons compound is but i don't feel the need to speculate.
namaste!

[annecat]

[quote=bobfitz;50645]i just attended bob dean's workshop at the ufo conference in santa clara. he said that there is zero chance obama or anyone else in government will disclose anything - ever. ]

of course not, who would believe him, obama or any other "world leader" ?

the story would go that they are just making it up "the whole ufo thing" in order to take the masses attention away from the really important real issues, :rolleyes: like economy and global warming...and so on.

so the disclosure must come from one of those writers of "zillions of letters" to bill and kerry, or from someone "who do not have any high position" (like transiten wrote in his post).

the dr.peterson's interview like those of " henry deacon" etc are important in making people aware that even we humans (with our manipulated dna) are able to do space, time and portal travel with our current technology.
so,
what would the other spaceraces or timetravellers, who might even have more advanced technology (or spiritual knowledge) than we do, be able to "perform" ?
walk through walls, send telepathic messages, invisibility would be piece of cake for them!
thus our own stories or "dreams" of "encounters with aliens" weren't that impossible after all that, but very much real, and true!

i wonder, why bob dean does not himself do his own "disclosure project" and share more of his "friends in high places". who are these friends ? are they even real ? or is it that he does not even know himself ?

~anne

[bobfitz]

the entire disclosure movement is a bit baffling to me to be honest. i think some people have been voices in the wilderness on the topic for a long time. now, with the advent of youtube and the internet, these voices are being heard by a much larger audience. in fact, there now appears to be more than just a little competition between various disclosure-ati (same deal with 2102 heralds).

but, how much is real? who is telling the truth and who is fabricating? is there a truth to disclose? are there hidden agendas of great import? who wears the white hat and who is the secret fascist? is it all just a cover for nazi 2.0 the south pole edition?

why would et's bother to show up in the first place? what's the point of this exercise? why would they even bother to hide from and conspire with a less advanced species? i mean, can you imagine jane goodall conspiring with alpha male primates to trick the rest of the tribe into handing over their termites on a stick? waaaaay too much time on her hands if she did.

i break the ufo issue down into four main buckets:
1. it's all delusion: there are no ufo's
2. it's all military: the ufo's are really just new war toys
3. it's all real: the ufo's are everywhere
4. all of the above

i tend toward the all of the above option. i believe (because i want to believe) that there is a combination of et and human activity that comprises the ufo phenomenon on planet earth. how much of the activity is benign, how much is malicious, how much is kooky? i surely cannot say.

however, i do hope the disclosure movement is uncovering something beautiful for the planet and is not just another disappointment for the people.

[Truth180]

if believing that ufo's exist without seeing one, i think you would eventually see one and its always unexpectedly. if i look up and say to myself i want to see a ufo at night i will not see one, as what it seems to me anyways. so far i have seen three sightings this year. a slow moving amber colored orb up close one time and then the last few further away at night and it dimmed our very slowly as it turned away. not government, because i do not see the government having anything like that and would take credit for sightings like this.

[Hitbyawormhole]

for what it's worth my two cents also:
one of the best interviews i've seen in my life! yes there was that issue towards dw from pp... and my hunch is that nancya is right regarding the pp 'material' perspective rather than the 'metaphysical'. pp is pushing 80 yrs old and has been a builder/designer/inventor of the physical world all his life... a real live nikola tesla. indeed it seems he has engineered the interface of the 'spirit' world (the wave/information field) to the nuts and bolts and flesh and blood of the particle material world to a tremendous degree. imagine the new age crazies he has met in his life talking about 'whales in space', love and light, happy thoughts will save you, etc... when he, it seems, has built machines to overide those happy thoughts, hahahaha. anyway, i like his warning about taking care of ourselves in this the physical plane. a good lesson to adhere to. we should look after and preserve our bodies until we are confident of our abilities to use mind/spirit over matter.

i think this is our lesson here and why dw's teachings are so important. yes pp is old school, but we happen to live in that same old school!! until the new school is here... until our bodies are resonating with the quantum potential energy field (the information field) and have the ability to transcend both the wave and particle manifestations with experience, we better look after ourselves.

clearly, in the scenario described by david for 2012, we would be able to do with our minds everything that dr pete has done and is doing with machines, and sooo much more. yes, my hopes is that everything he has created for the illuminate will become obsolete due to our evolved consciousness and mind over matter abilities. in the meantime, for a mere muggle to carry his own with the magicians is impressive!

one other note... i don't recall pp saying that it is the ratfish's liver oil that helps tooth decay and pineal gland calcification but a fish like it. i suspect he is talking about skate fish. any thoughts?

[billybobbutterball]

one other note... i don't recall pp saying that it is the rat fish's liver oil that helps tooth decay and pineal gland calcification but a fish like it. i suspect he is talking about skate fish. any thoughts?

bbb here.

yeah, the bit about pete coming up with the ratfish bit surprised me coming shortly after he said that he wasn't going to give away the mystery fish's identity.

i went searching after the ratfish...found it a variety or whatever of the skate. peterson said that the mystery fish was sufficient for the world's demand if not overly abundant, yet the skate is considered over-fished, with the world's supply dangerously diminished. i would imagine that the rat is suffering the same condition. (fish of a gill school together)

the oil from the skate (family?) differs from that of the shark. ( and the shark ain't doin so good, number wise either)

an important note seems that of employing a fermentation process. both fermented skate liver oil and cod liver are available -- but expensive. extracted oil from butterfat produced by cows which have grazed on pasture grass growing during a critical time is an important adjunct to the skate/cod oil. the special oil is also available. (less costly organic butter from cows indifferently munching on any old grass pastures might pinch-hit for the oil...at least i hope so)

the main key to the potency of the above is speculated to be that of vitamin k....but not just any old k; as besides k-1 it also comes as k2-4 and k2-7 :confused: all have some role but the one seemingly the most efficacious is the k2-7 -- and of that, k2-7 extracted from fermented natto would seem to fit best into the picture pete was painting.

a net search will quickly turn up the suppliers of liver oil and butter oil, but affordable k2-7 is a tougher task. ( if need be please pm yours truly, billybobbutterball, for the link) rules, you know.:rolleyes:

ps in case you are wondering...ratfish etc. do indeed look particulary nasty...only edible portions are the wings. bill g

ps ps k2-7 is considered a regulator of calcium...which would lead one to think that it might serve to decalcify a clogged-up peneal:)

[KassandraLoves]

how can you appreciate finding a chest full of treasure if you dont even have to work for it. to us, information is the treasure and its buried. youve got to sift through sand, crabs, old boots, trash, and dirt to get to it. but when you do, the whole digging part is nothing other than worth it, right?

well, thats the metaphor im using for pete peterson and anyone else that we encounter in our research, folks. sometimes people can seem awful, rude, and downright negative. but you know? those are the people that can seem to have the most to teach you, no matter what your polarity happens to be. and maybe its through information that they have, or what they seemingly dont have. its all for us to use to create a vast library of knowledge and experience, no matter how it resonates or doesnt. and im grateful for that.

i, for one, would rather experience all of it and make heads and tails of it on my own. the good, the bad, and the ugly. even if mr. peterson seems to be old and cranky and have a different opinion than you, maybe he still has some little nuggets of positive info in there for you to uncover? just like a buried treasure is underneath a bunch of junk, so is all the information worth taking home. its buried. take what you want (and for the creators sake and for yours) leave the rest behind. not all data comes wrapped in a bow made of more good data. we must use what we can for good and leave the rest of it. its much better than getting everything handed to you if ya ask me. :d

after all, when you dig up that treasure chest, do you bag up all the dirt and garbage that was around it? heck no! you grab the dubloons and keep on runnin'! and those dubloons are still gold no matter where ya got em. :)

sincerely, indiana jones....er, i mean kassandraloves. ;)

[Quatah85]

i didn't enjoy him either too much. but for different reasons. i myself, am just fed up with the way the world is going and i want so badly for the transformation to happen. and however it's going to happen, be it heavy doom & gloom and warnings (as he seems to be preaching) or a gorgeous cosmic event (as david is preaching), i'm ready. i'm so ready to move on. a majority of these whistle blowers seem to be (at least in my opinion) absolutely terrified of death. as if they are not sure what's going to become of them in the afterlife (for lack of a better word). i for one, know what's going to happen to me and i fully accept and welcome it.

he tells people to get ready, and prepare. okay, and than what? what happens when the gas and food runs out several months later? what's plan b? grow your own food (because i assume he tells you to learn how to farm. i wouldn't know, i turned the video off.)? live life in solitude with your family? what does he tell everyone to do after the world becomes chaos and unlivable? what is he planning on doing?


so yeah, i can see the purpose in preparing for survival in localized situations, but if the us/world is going to turn into some anarchy situation without a viable future in sight - than i'd much rather take my chances and keep my head in the clouds. and if we die? so what?

[Matthew Clark]

re the above post,


i myself, am just fed up with the way the world is going and i want so badly for the transformation to happen. and however it's going to happen, be it heavy doom & gloom and warnings (as he seems to be preaching) or a gorgeous cosmic event (as david is preaching), i'm ready. i'm so ready to move on.

i think you will find 99.99% of people on this forum will agree with you on that. personally, it cant come soon enough for us all - whatever "it" will turn out ot be.

i have noticed more and more of late that there is an increasingly widening gap regarding the positive and negative messages. dr pete peterson spoke his own truth on how he sees things happening. running for the hills in a secluded self sufficient area is ok if you have access to such an area!

i am not (and never have been) very comfortable with the idea of growing your own food, (if the reason is the muck hitting the fan). can you imagine if you had a garden full and people could not get any decent food for a while, how long would that garden be full of food? not long. i heard somewhere that after 3 days, people will fight for food. after a week, they will... well take even more drastic measures. :eek:

bottom line is we will all be fine. with a good wind behind us, the wait should be very nearly over. so much happening at the moment, you can feel it in the air.

and yes, i cant wait too, this system we are in is getting to me more and more now on a daily basis, but it is equally important to stay in the moment, keep your thoughts positive and live the change you want to see.

matt

[Siren Master]

quatah and matt,
well said.
i listened to some of dr. peterson and the interview on project camelot with aurthur weber.
both men are of the same age group and i recognize the weariess in both of them. they reflected to me my ancient soul-deep weariness, cynicism, and weight of knowing so, so much.
i don't doubt that these men have seen it all. and i have found myself thinking of them throughout my day. i keep wishing for dr. peterson that he would find himself in a room with children. slobbery, inquisitive, eye twinkle causing children. a familiar child or two who could hug him like a grampa. then see if hope can ingnite the tender place of his heart as it does for most of us.
aurthur weber, now he's completely sold that we are doomed. i almost turned that very long interview off. but just as i'd said to myself that i wasn't going to listen to anymore of the downer, he told a tale that ignited his own spirit. his voice changed to wonder as he described a decades past meeting with a human/angelic guide. it was quite something for the see the meeting of hopelessness and wonder.
in fact, i don't remember much of what either man said. the doom/gloom didn't stick but the lighter, helpful stuff has.
this unveiling, re-membering time feels to me as though we are unravelling a nuclear force from parchment paper.

[Pineal]

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sorry, getting over a bit of the swine flu and i have lost my typing font..

i was wondering if anybody on here has actually taken ratfish oil to decalicify their pineal gland, or at all for the matter. i would really like to hear someone share their experience with me before i go ahead and purchase a product that might seem to be another snake oil product:confused:

please be detailed in your answer.

thanks so much

namaste

pineal

[TOTHE]

according to what i have seen in one of david's lectures:
the pineal gland has one the highest concentration of blood vessels in the body.
to get the blood to the gland you can stimulate it. david has suggested holding the head below the general level of the body for about 3 to 5 minutes just before you go into meditation.
you can: stand on your head, recline head down on an inclined plane or bow down like a muslim in prayer position (head down with butt up). why do you think muslims seem so inspired? why do you see japanese sensei sometimes stand on their heads or keep their heads real low in a long bow just prior to meditation?

[Loungin]

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sorry, getting over a bit of the swine flu and i have lost my typing font..

i was wondering if anybody on here has actually taken ratfish oil to decalicify their pineal gland, or at all for the matter. i would really like to hear someone share their experience with me before i go ahead and purchase a product that might seem to be another snake oil product:confused:

please be detailed in your answer.

thanks so much

namaste

pineal

i've been taking vitamin k2 + d3 pills daily for about 4 weeks now. i believe vitamin k2 is what is found in the snake liver oil. i have been amazed by the results. i have no less than 3 dreams a night which are extremely vivid. i can recall each of them in the morning without much effort. this is definitely not the norm for me. while i've always been someone who can sleep through an earthquake(literally), i've never been one to have dreams this vivid and consistent. i haven't gone a night without a series of dreams since i went on the vitamin. it seems to work within 24/48 hours... at least for me.

i haven't been analyzing my dreams too much however i have made it a point each night before falling asleep to face any fears i come across instead of running. i've been quite successful because even though i'm dreaming, it's like i have access to the information from my waking life. that transition to being aware of my conscious mind while dreaming makes me understand that it wouldn't be so weird to access the information/consciousness field awake or while dreaming.

[SpiralCycle]

you can actually pump blood to it if you focus enough. i do it to areas of my brain all the time and when you do it to your pineal gland it sometimes will make small cracking noises inside of you similar to doing prana work out the crown.

for me i focus on my heart and the veins in my neck and raise my adams apple with each pulse. this may seem odd i don't know of anyone else who does it kinda figured it out intuitively but once you can all you need to do is find a picture of where the pineal gland is inside your head and then send the blood there. be gentle at first. it can be challanging to pinpoint where it is but once you do you will definitely know.

i have not experienced any psychadelic or intense esp experiences when doing this although i think it has opened a few things up over time of doing it maybe twice a week.

[Pineal]

so were you just taking the vitamin k2 suppliment with d3 or was it the actual skate oil?

it is interesting that you have noticed your dreams as being more vivid since you started this supplement regimen.

[cramoo]

i also listened intently to pp and i posted this comment on the consciousness thread in this forum a week ago

[i]when david spoke to dr pete peterson in the project camelot interviews some interesting thoughts about the development of the mind and brain were mentioned. the work of joseph chilton pearce was referenced, his research about how the brain develops is essential for human kind to grasp before one can take further steps to live in a more peaceful, harmonious, integrated and considered world.
our birthing and child practices are still backward and do not give the infant the greatest opportunity for optimal brain development, as chilton pearce suggests the formulation and accumulation of brain matrices, one developmental matrix being essential to every one which follows. so to miss out on essential developmental stages through poor birthing, parenting and schooling practices results in children being stuck. therefore we see arrested development in adults - which has such a negative impact for our emotional, intellectual and spirtual growth.[/]

further to this i would like to investigate pp's claim that madonna used joseph chilton pearce's philosophy to give her children the best opportunity for optimal brain development. he mentioned their very high iq.
shouldn't all woman giving birth know these sorts of things - leaving the umbilical cord uncut as long as neccesary, holding the child close to the heart of mother, drug less birth, no circumcision etc etc. if you want to know more, research is advised.
also joseph chilton pearce suggests schooling is ruining children in the western world by forcing children to undertake tasks their brains are not ready for (brain matrix developement). rudolf steiner and the russian school system based on the practices of shchetinin inspired by the ringing cedars book by vladimir megre are two pedagogies worth viewing and address this developmental requirement in the way they educate.

what is shchetinin's school?

this is a school in southern russia created by alternative educator academician shchetinin, where ordinary pupils with little if any help from adult teachers cover the whole 11-year curriculum of the russian school system in just two years, get official bachelor's and master's degrees from accredited universities by the time they are seventeen, and also have designed, built and decorated their campus all by themselves


joseph chilton pearce is worthy of more discussion, as these things are directly related to the way our brain/mind/consciousness operates as an adult - arrrested developement compared to full consciousness.

arrested development due to matricies being stuck at a certain level is very destructive - we see drug use, alcoholism, sexual abuse, materialism, consumerism, exclusism etc etc as a consequence of arrested development.
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reference to skate oil from pp interview - my son and i have bought some of this from the us distributor - so far , improved skin, clarity of thought, dream enhancement. we are australian , so to find the internet link, pay freight and pay for the skate oil was an expensive leap of faith. my 21 year old son - has been inspired by david and now writes all his dreams in a journal. i try to help him analyse these.

my take on pete peterson - investigate and make your own conclusions. :) i found the body of information interesting and some points worth further investigation.

[Elisa]

hello all,
interesting to read about the d3 + k2 vitamins. i've recently purchased a large supply of capsules with exactly this combination. i really got them for the vitamin d3* as they were the only veggie capsules i could find with a reasonable dose of that (1000iu of d3, and the k2 is 45mcg). as i was certain i'd been vitamin d3 deprived for ages i soon moved from using two to using three capsules a day (i should probably go a lot higher yet for a boost), but anyway, i seem to have been dreaming quite vividly as well lately.
i've just done a quick google search on k2 and it does look extremely promising...

* very much thanks to 'henry deacon' mentioning d3 in one of his interviews. do a search on the many advantages of a high d3 dosage! careful not to overdose on vitamin a though, which it is also often combined with!!

[Loungin]

so were you just taking the vitamin k2 suppliment with d3 or was it the actual skate oil?

it is interesting that you have noticed your dreams as being more vivid since you started this supplement regimen.

it was just the vitamin supplement, no oil. i'm not sure what the d3 is for... it's 1 pill that dissolves in your mouth. :d

[KassandraLoves]

i have been taking the skate fish oil just to give it a try...and besides tasting like a barrel of old garbage, i have noticed a massive increase in number of dreams per night and also they have gotten a lot more vivid. i have so many to write down in the morning and throughout the night that i cant keep up!

this could also be from the "veil thinning" as time is getting closer and closer for big change, but my dreams have definitely been a lot more active...

also, i stopped taking it for a few days to see if the dream activity would go away but it persisted. we could chalk that up to a bunch of different things, but id say im about 55% convinced that it has helped decalcify me a bit....

i think different things will work for differnt people...not only that, but the placebo effect can also come into play. but no matter how its happening, its happening. and thats a good thing i'd say :)

[dude]

a little while ago, dw said he started to take skate liver oil. curious if there were any updates from him or other forum members

[sluzen]

namaste,

dr. pete peterson was a huge disappointment to me. he didn't say much more than what i could have gotten from anyone in the militia movement (i.e. michigan militia), the john birch society, or any of the other fear-based crazies out there that are fed with some truth and incredibele lies by the controllers propaganda.

but what was most upsetting to me about him was he was one of the ones who led the secret meetings with congress. during those secret meetings congress was told, according to rep. kucinich a bunch of lies. congress was also told that the people would get violent and that because of this congress would need to enact laws that would control the people (i.e. martial law). again, kucinich said that the information was a bunch of lies and from all evidence we can assume kucinich is a contactee. i would tend to believe kucinich instead of going into peterson's nonsensical fear-based reality.

also, i am concerned that project camelot seems to be following lately the fear-based dictates of the miltary/industrial/corporate complex, which are essentially the controllers themselves.

fear and love cannot exist within the human energy form at the same time. so i suggest, just don't do it. but don't hide your head in the sand either. discern, discern, discern, what is true for you.

love and light,

[sqri]

i've been looking for a skate liver oil online and have found only one brand. i haven't seen any bad reviews and was just wondering if anyone on here had tried it. if so, has it worked for you? if not, are there any other brands that are better? [pm jon with answer] what i found is called, [pm jon if you want to know] . any insight would be greatly appreciated. :)

in the love and the light of the one infinite creator,
jon

[Pineal]

i have not taken the skate, but have taken the [brand name] high vitamin butter with omega 3-6-9 oil, seems to be a good combo

[Chet Baker]

hi,
i was wondering if and where one could get any of this new medical devices?
did dr. peters go public with his inventions?
would be worth a try :)

greets chet

[subhap]

david mentioned about [skate liver oil]- discussed by dr. pete peterson. in his interview david mentioned where one can get [skate liver oil-email subhap for brand or do a search on the internet].

has anyone tried this? i would like to know what it feels like after several days or weeks. i am particularly interested in finding out, regarding clearing up calcium deposits in their pineal glands. any significant changes in accessing the psychic ability and one's 3rd eye ?

thank you

[UtherGardener]

namaste,


...also, i am concerned that project camelot seems to be following lately the fear-based dictates of the miltary/industrial/corporate complex, which are essentially the controllers themselves.

fear and love cannot exist within the human energy form at the same time. so i suggest, just don't do it. but don't hide your head in the sand either. discern, discern, discern, what is true for you.

love and light,

this has been my feeling of p.c. for over a year now.

[Horsemaker]

i, too, see that the project camelot folks seemed to be focused on the negative. i may have to disconnect there...

[noppy]

true, i also see it in project camelot. i hope people don't get negative after hearing the truth. but be positive in stead so we all can create together something that is even greater than what we fear .

[myconsumerclub]

seems like a good idea to get some of that oil. i think that the trio of david and the others was impressed and maybe it was something that he said off camera that made them come to that conclusion.

he seemed genuine in his fear of talking about certain things. i don't think he has any chiro training all his knowledge seemed to come from his own research and therefor it was probably stuff that conflicts with accepted chiro teachings. just because he thinks things are one way doesn't mean they are you know it's only what he claims is real from what he deduced in his research.

the old geezer looks like he's been riden hard and put away wet a lot so he probably isn't use to dealing with loving open people who have any propensity to be accepting and non judgemental so he is probably going through a bit of a shock as well meeting people like david. i thought they had good chemistry and he was slightly condescending and that may be to keep from having words being put in his mouth and to get terms correct with regard to how he looks at things when describing the info field as being seperate from the consc. field.

it's the old spirit and soul argument from what i see.

david probably does not want to dis anyone for fear of it negatively affecting the possible coming forth of others due to fear of humiliation and public scrutiny.

we are only able to speculate about what other exciting testimoney he might offer in the future and of course we should all remember to send a love blast to all those sts people so they can know that the path is over here and they are doing the right thing by going along with disclosure. let's continue to support and encourage those efforts by getting on the project camelot bandwaggon but just say no to fear porn and spread the love.