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Berry Chastain
07-07-2009, 05:50 PM
i guess i have chosen to post this in the loo forum because it deals with balancing polarity.

i have found myself feeling resentment, disgust, antipathy, and anger about all the bruhaha going on the last 12 days regarding michael jackson's death!

i realize that i am being very judgemental about this whole thing, but i cannot personally sympathise with all the emotional outpouring that is going on. yes, there were many recordings which he did in his early career which i enjoyed and appreciate. but i cannot find it in my deep emotional self to grieve over the loss of this person. any more than i grieve over the loss of elvis presley, who didn't even draw this much attention, or president john kennedy which caused me a whole lot more grief than this passing on. why is this death so extremely important that the estimated "billion" viewers worlwide are fixed on the passing of this one individual?

that having been said, i realized tonight that i have some internal healing to do. as i said above i have been judgemental over this life. i must realize that regardless of how his life affected me, it affected multitudes of others, perhaps in a positive way, (though i doubt that the video thriller was a very edifying effort!) i have not viewed it but the clips are as repulsive as the movie texas chain saw massacre. perhaps i am not looking at it in a metaphysical way???, as some have suggested! i will not comment on those suggestions.

sorry! i still find myself thinking that this spirit has a lot of karmic soul searching to do while he is in the in between stages. i don't know if the child molestation charges were fact. i sort of doubt it. he was a child himself, mentally. i don't think that he ever progressed above his early teens mentally although i believe that he was a savant, a genius and a reincarnated soul with exceptional talent. i can imagine that he was seeking companionship with those of his own spiritual age, in a very innocent way, like a youngster enjoys a pajama party. so i refuse to believe that this person was harming children, just enjoying the sense of being in the "present" that children naturally express. so that is not the problem with my balancing.

what i have determined is that i must find acceptance of his beingness regardless of how he presented himself to the world. i don't have to accept his style, or his lifestyle, or his behavior. i find i must only view him as a manifestation of the creator who is a very different manifestation from the rest of us. when i look at his life, what do i see which is a mirror reflection of my self. after all, we are all fractal parts of the whole. what is it in me which causes me the emotions which i am feeling regarding this manifestation of rejection when the whole world is expressing the emotion of love and ultimate affection? am i off track or is this some sort of undesired influence?

i will deal with my own inner emotions and feeling, but i anticipate that this is not the end of the jackson episode.

Truth180
07-08-2009, 06:36 PM
i guess i have chosen to post this in the

sorry! i still find myself thinking that this spirit has a lot of karmic soul searching to do while he is in the in between stages. i don't know if the child molestation charges were fact. i sort of doubt it. he was a child himself, mentally. i don't think that he ever progressed above his early teens mentally although i believe that he was a savant, a genius and a reincarnated soul with exceptional talent. i can imagine that he was seeking companionship with those of his own spiritual age, in a very innocent way, like a youngster enjoys a pajama party. so i refuse to believe that this person was harming children, just enjoying the sense of being in the "present" that children naturally express. so that is not the problem with my balancing.


this gets me thinking of when we were children and not worrying about paying bills or working a day to day job and a weekly pay check. once we are done with school we are sent out into the world to work raise a family and live the american dream. this is what we have to do, because everyone else is doing it. going along with the program, because we are programmed to do only one dream which is making money.

once we reach the age of 18 are we really that much responsible just because the law says it is. i noticed with native tribes who live by their own rules are more open and actually act like children. like for example the hopi indians they know more of whats going on than the average civilized citizen. they are not corrupted by the system and are more spiritual and not afraid to freely express that side of them i think. this might be the same with mj, even though he did some strange things and lived a life being judged. we really don't know what happened behind closed doors but maybe he wanted to be around people who didn't judge him. if we put ourselves in his shoes.

i didn't watch the memorial service, but i did see the part where his daughter went up to the micorphone. it teared me up. if we look at this from a positive view of mj's death this was to look at ourselves and see why we do see him as a strange man.

onething
07-08-2009, 07:43 PM
i admit that i also have some annoyance at the way our media focuses so much on sensationalism when there are so many important and interesting things going on which could be covered in depth. sarah palin is a case in point. she gets endless media attention and she really has nothing to offer but tabloid entertainment.

i was also born in 1958 but haven't paid that much attention to michael. it has been painful to watch him mutilate his face.

i think that there is this spiritual quest inside of us and it manifests by wanting to intimately know the famous and have emotional ties with them. the spiritual quest is about wanting connection with everyone. i remember one guy i dated many a long year ago said that as a kid, he wanted to know everyone's name - everyone in the world. by everyone coming together and experiencing the love-healing that tends to occur at death this is an expression of that spiritual desire for us to all be connected and of one mind.

michael jackson was certainly interesting. it seems to me we can't really judge what his karmic path and this particular lifetime was about. being rich and famous is probably bad luck in terms of our karmic progress!

it is interesting to ponder how very much this lifetime and its details influence the personality and what happens to it, how it views things. the time and place and language and culture and religion into which you are born, your family, birth order and so forth, then the abuse of his father and the fame and lack of a real childhood which turned him into an eccentric.

none of it is who he really is.

Purple Dragon
07-08-2009, 07:53 PM
the point of view that i like to take is that i respect michael for the music he created as i enjoy listening to much of it. i think we was talented and helped to bring a lot of good out in a lot of people which i also respect. am i grieving over his death? no, not in the least. but then i don't think death is something to grieve about. i think a lot of people are just "jumping on the bandwagon" to make themselves feel "part of the group" and important by being able to share in something as a community, which in itself isn't always a bad thing, but i do think some are abusing the event.

i just hope michael completed what he needed to in his journey on this planet and is continuing along the path he has chosen for himself and am disappointed that there is still the fear/hate vibes going around about him. i agree with berry in saying he probably didn't have anything to do with the charges laid against him, but even if he did, who is anyone to judge but himself? if he was guilty, it was a catalyst he needed in his development for whatever reason, but who are we to judge another being for their choices?

i'll remember michael for his music, not for the media coverage his life or death has received. but that's just my two cents :)

love & light & the best of luck to michael on his journey wherever it has and may take him. & thanks for the good tunes :)

Zenith
07-09-2009, 03:49 AM
hi all,

seems to be some kind of balance/polarity in the numbers (at least).

b- 29 / 8 / 1958 = 42 = 6
d- 25 / 6 / 2009 = 24 = 6

peace

Sarahmay
07-09-2009, 10:04 AM
i felt the same as you, berry. was sorry that he died, but not grieving and was annoyed at the endless media covereage.

then i tuned in realtime to the streaming memorial service...i started crying and could hardly stop. guess i was tuning into those that were grieving, don't know, but i realized more was going on here than the death of this one person.

i do believe michael symbolized the re-emergence of the divine feminine and that his androgyny made some people uncomfortable...yet he was much beloved as well. it has certainly focused human consciousness on something other than war and tribulation, and that is a good thing.

Kris
07-09-2009, 11:14 AM
just a reminder to all that the original post in this thread was about balancing polarity and michael jackson was used as an example. it is not a michael jackson thread.;)

because this thread is in the law of one forum, the responses to the issue of balancing polarity should be from a law of one perspective.

Blacksunshine
07-09-2009, 03:15 PM
berry, i very much agree with the "soul searching" aspect of this particular soul. there are many souls i feel have so much searching to do, i battled "prayed" many times for lil brittney spears as well. i dont even watch media coverage of anything. and i saw not a single peice of mj. but i feel such a strong connection with others of this planet, that when i feel of a "lost-ness" with these amazing spirits, i just wish them (and often wish there was more that i could do) well in this life. as i know of amazing futures ahead for all. this road of 3rd density is only the beginning of a complete universal balance.

i also cant deny even once, that we only get once change to be of this plane...rather infinite oppertunity to learn and grow...so i dont "loose" hope that things aren't going to be "okay" they will be as they are, and they may not be "my" way of seeing the light....but they are still so mandatory in the nature of balance.

when it comes to balancing polarities, of the 3 tradgedies that happened with in such a short amount of time. i am truly fascinated by the (excuse my spelling) synchronicities. in their own ways, each were a shed of so much light, to so many people, for such different reasons...when you find that they all passed (two very unexpectadly) at such similar times, that is almost eeri from our view point as little earthlings. just keeping the two in mind tho, farrah, and michael. i have read what dw has to say on it, and i was just waiting for his comments on the matter, because i was truly :eek: when both happened on the same day. they were both brilliant at what they did, i think they did it in such different lights as well, it's kind of ironic that in the day and age we live in, the mind frame many folks do have, that michael would have taken on the bigger of the attention...but i also have to admit, it's a bit expected to be that way...i mean i've lived here long enough to know "people"

i dont feel any judgement to it, nescessarily, but i have to admit that i do have thoughts on the matter

Starfire
11-17-2009, 08:41 PM
i know this thread has not been updated in many moons but i remember reading this around the time of his death and not really knowing what to think or say about it. but a few days ago i saw the movie release of "this is it". i must say that i was very, very touched and moved emotionally by the movie. it was very uncanny and synchronistic that as the concert was announced mj very specifically stated "this is it, this is the final curtain call". it made me think that at some subconscious level he knew he would be leaving, i am very glad they taped his final curtain call. now i am around michaels age and so grew up with him so to speak. i can't say that i was exactly a fan(atic), but really remember his music/songs as part of the pop culture of the times and i have always appreciated a variety of music genres and styles. there were some songs of mj's that did really stand out for me and hearing them now bring up very sentimental and emotional memories. but aside from that i really thought the movie showed a different side of him that would not have come out had he not died and had gone on to perform the concerts. the movie was clips of unscripted rehearsals and showed very honestly and respectfully how michael treated others he worked with and how artistically attuned he was in his performances.
considering how most people who would be here on this dc forum are distrustful (and rightfully so) of mainstream media coverage i applauded this movie as being very respectful of mj and his work. previously what else has anybody really known about him other than what has been fed thru the medias. i am not trying to make this into a movie review but just wanted to say that i really felt the essence of mj as a loving soul, in spite of the trials of what ever being a superstar had imposed upon him. i do believe that every soul deserves forgiveness and we should celebrate the positive contributions that soul leaves upon humanity. thank you mj for sharing your talent, your perfectionism, and artistry with us all, if you have your polarities to balance still, then that is between you and your own true one self .

starfire