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Rod Johnson
03-15-2002, 06:36 AM
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<font size="2"><font color="#0000ff" face="tahoma">the dialogue:

</font>hi seth,

<font color="#0000ff" face="tahoma">you wrote:

</font>> i will never be able to converse with any of the
> members on the math portion of the ascension
> process.

<font color="#0000ff" face="tahoma">i am sincere when i ask, what is the math of ascension?

then jeremy responded with:

</font>jeez, when was the last time we talked about the
physics???

<font color="#0000ff" face="tahoma">many of my posts are about physics or at the edge of
physics. i always felt that physics is the big picture
paradigm. it is the arena of thought within which each
person connects how they feel about their reality to
what they think that reality is.

personal physics is a multi-level proposition that represents
the level of each persons ability to perceive the nature of
their cosmos. it is the big why, how, when and where.
hence, it is very difficult for a questioning dialogue to
actually stray from physics.

so, your comment: </font>i think maybe 1% of the conversations
on this list have had to do with ascension physics, might
be a little short sighted.

<font color="#0000ff" face="tahoma">but, your following points were well made: <font color="#000000" face="times new roman">...</font></font>seriously...
the fact is that david is not a trained physicist and
had to work *really* hard to assimilate this info
enough to understand it and work with it... he doesn't
expect all of the rest of us untrained amateur
scientists to do the same. and, btw, there's nothing
wrong with asking questions either. the physics is my
weak point, completely, and honestly it's not what
keeps me going in my search for truth, although i find
it immensely interesting.

<font color="#0000ff" face="tahoma">well, i think that the importance of "physics of" is no
more than an aspect of the level of personal interest.

for instance, take the term "ascension". to the person
coming from the concern of self survival it may represent
being physically caught up in a safe place transition.
say, a god protected sanctuary, a ufo or maybe a nondescript
place in the sky. to the person who is steeped in
metaphysical wondering, ascension may be a quickening,
the transmogrification of their body, or soul incarnation
in a transcended world.

to myself, as a conceptual physicist, ascension is "the
long results of time." it happens life to life, dilemma
to dilemma and sometimes world to world. yet, it has
important thresholds where the ascension is not just
personal but a collective physical transition, earth,
heaven and sky. call it "a harvest" where incarnation
must be in tune with a new template of physical existence.
perhaps because i am close to that veil i see ascension
as a process of literal death and rebirth.

hoping these thoughts were not to deep or redundant,

rod





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Jeremy Weiland
03-15-2002, 08:52 AM
hey rod,

> so, your comment: i think maybe 1% of the
> conversations
> on this list have had to do with ascension physics,
> might
> be a little short sighted.

yeah, probably. i *do* appreciate your posts on
physics topics, absolutely. but my point (and maybe i
didn't make it the best way) is that we don't have a
lot of *conversations* about physics... most of the
discussion is steeped in more personal/transpersonal
philisophical issues. not that there isn't a hell of
a lot of philosophy involved in the physics itself as
well, but... well, maybe you know what i mean. i'd
love to have more discussions on this stuff, maybe
it'll just take me going back through ciii and
dialogues and finding some more stuff that needs
explaining to me. it is a sincere comfort that i can
turn to you for those explanations. :-d

hope i didn't give you the impression that your posts
are unappreciated. i'm grateful for the olympian
contributions you've made to our understanding of
creation. thanks, rod.

jeremy

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zhing311
03-15-2002, 09:38 AM
- i think what he is saying is: physics=more of rod, less of
everyone else, is a good thing......
its like learning a foreign language, in order to pick it up, it
helps to hear it being spoken.


--- in asc2k@y..., jeremy weiland <greenlantern113@y...> wrote:
> hey rod,
>
> > so, your comment: i think maybe 1% of the
> > conversations
> > on this list have had to do with ascension physics,
> > might
> > be a little short sighted.
>
> yeah, probably. i *do* appreciate your posts on
> physics topics, absolutely. but my point (and maybe i
> didn't make it the best way) is that we don't have a
> lot of *conversations* about physics... most of the
> discussion is steeped in more personal/transpersonal
> philisophical issues. not that there isn't a hell of
> a lot of philosophy involved in the physics itself as
> well, but... well, maybe you know what i mean. i'd
> love to have more discussions on this stuff, maybe
> it'll just take me going back through ciii and
> dialogues and finding some more stuff that needs
> explaining to me. it is a sincere comfort that i can
> turn to you for those explanations. :-d
>
> hope i didn't give you the impression that your posts
> are unappreciated. i'm grateful for the olympian
> contributions you've made to our understanding of
> creation. thanks, rod.
>
> jeremy
>
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