Fa Fa Fooey
02-07-2001, 01:19 PM
i am finding myself in an interesting position today. i have followed
david's work and others of a similiar nature. i read a post of
david's on this group recently that implied the "harvest" is really
not going to be a wide-scale planetary ascension, but just for the
lucky few who can be "gotten to". i find this a troubling vision, and
perhaps even lacking in deep compassion. really the reason is simple,
i see most people yearning for love and truth, but not knowing where
to find it. since its fair to say most people do not have access to
the internet, and most people do not know of great teachers of
meditation such as osho, krishnamurti, buddha, etc. then it would
appear that no matter how the massess might desire within to be
spiritually awake, there is little they can do in their current
situations.
the bottom line is, if one does not understand the nature
of the mind, then one is perpetually trapped in one's ego construct,
no? and in that case, self-centeredness is almost a given, sort of
impossible to not be, if the disease ultimately is identification
with thought. with that point, i suggest that in my vision, and i
assume it's okay for me to state this. in my vision, all will be
flooded with the energies of love, and a spontaneous enlightenment, a
critical mass being reached, all will "waken" and we will
collectively shift from fear based existence in duality to love based
existence in oneness. why do we have to continue with the negative
concepts associated with only a "few" ascending. this seems to lack a
fundamental awareness of the problem, which ultimately is the mind.
this seemingly lack of wisdom in david's work prompts me to
suggest why perhaps david has taken this path. i do not suggest it is
all negative, but i do believe in the power of love as a
transformative force which can reveal the truth within. i
noticed david has been saying lately in updates and posts that he is
going to meditate and focus exclusively on his "soul work" to me it
would seem that before david completed, and even published his work
on the "harvest" it would have done him well to have meditated
intensively before he beagn the work. for a man in his ego, no matter
how open to "et transmissions" and "psychic abilities" would first
want to reach an enlightened state of consciousness as we have seen
in buddha, osho, krishnamurti, jesus, etc.
to do the work first, there is a fundamental problem, no matter
how "scientific" its basis. david is still generally in the ego. this
is the problem. i have absorbed all his information and found it
quite compelling, but i think that i will wait until david has truly
undergone a shift in consciousness before i continue to give any
credence to his predictions of "how many" will make it. until that
time, i will continue to focus exclusively on meditation myself. i
will no longer discuss any 2012, harvest, critical mass,
consciousness, fifth dimension, etc. for until i am centered in self,
these are just words, no more valid or less than the next ego in
speculation. to even predict to me seems to be denying the
fundamental law of the universe that every moment is new!
if david is trying to scare people in meditating, that too seem to
not be the way of light. i cannot say more since my ego is now
unwinding to such an extreme i think it's best to remain silent. i
hope david continues to go deeper within. i hope david would look
into kundalini meditation, which would facilitate the opening of all
his energy centers up to the crown chakra, so that david will be
merged with the divine. when that union has taken place, i would be
most interested in how the nature of david's work will change, if he
would continue with the work at all! i'm not sure at that point any
of us will care.
perhaps nothing needs be done but deepen the silence which increases
the prescence of the one! that to me would be the greatest service to
humanity, and would see to allow for an increase in "harvest" for as
i change, so does the universe. each additional enlightened being
changes the game dramatically. i think there is a high possibility
that before 2012, there will be millions of enlightened beings on the
planet. when this is manifest, the power of the prescence and force
of love will transmute any ideas that can be seen as negative
including a "small harvest" all you need is love.
let's transform ourselves, lets leave words for a later time, for now
it is just the mind speculating, and this seems to be a rather futile
exercise, even as developed a theory as david's, it's still mind-
stuff. words no matter how intricate, cannot capture this moment.
what may or may not happen in 2012 is primarily dependent on our
state of consciousness. david seems to imply most people are
not "fit" i suggest they havent had much choice due to the subtle
nature of the mind and religions lack of explaining it, never mind
all other resources. not intending to attack david as much as point
out that what he is saying now may not hold true in the future, as he
gets deeper within himself! this to me should be kept in mind, like
anything else, even davids work cannot be seen as a fixed entity, but
rather a flowing journey through his own awareness, and the end
result being he meditates and wakes up, then that was reason enough.
but to focus on the details, is not necessarily that wise. we should
all wake up first and then discuss. for how can one trust ones
judgement when one is still in the dualistic mode of consciousness?
time to turn off the internet and go within!
peace.
jason
david's work and others of a similiar nature. i read a post of
david's on this group recently that implied the "harvest" is really
not going to be a wide-scale planetary ascension, but just for the
lucky few who can be "gotten to". i find this a troubling vision, and
perhaps even lacking in deep compassion. really the reason is simple,
i see most people yearning for love and truth, but not knowing where
to find it. since its fair to say most people do not have access to
the internet, and most people do not know of great teachers of
meditation such as osho, krishnamurti, buddha, etc. then it would
appear that no matter how the massess might desire within to be
spiritually awake, there is little they can do in their current
situations.
the bottom line is, if one does not understand the nature
of the mind, then one is perpetually trapped in one's ego construct,
no? and in that case, self-centeredness is almost a given, sort of
impossible to not be, if the disease ultimately is identification
with thought. with that point, i suggest that in my vision, and i
assume it's okay for me to state this. in my vision, all will be
flooded with the energies of love, and a spontaneous enlightenment, a
critical mass being reached, all will "waken" and we will
collectively shift from fear based existence in duality to love based
existence in oneness. why do we have to continue with the negative
concepts associated with only a "few" ascending. this seems to lack a
fundamental awareness of the problem, which ultimately is the mind.
this seemingly lack of wisdom in david's work prompts me to
suggest why perhaps david has taken this path. i do not suggest it is
all negative, but i do believe in the power of love as a
transformative force which can reveal the truth within. i
noticed david has been saying lately in updates and posts that he is
going to meditate and focus exclusively on his "soul work" to me it
would seem that before david completed, and even published his work
on the "harvest" it would have done him well to have meditated
intensively before he beagn the work. for a man in his ego, no matter
how open to "et transmissions" and "psychic abilities" would first
want to reach an enlightened state of consciousness as we have seen
in buddha, osho, krishnamurti, jesus, etc.
to do the work first, there is a fundamental problem, no matter
how "scientific" its basis. david is still generally in the ego. this
is the problem. i have absorbed all his information and found it
quite compelling, but i think that i will wait until david has truly
undergone a shift in consciousness before i continue to give any
credence to his predictions of "how many" will make it. until that
time, i will continue to focus exclusively on meditation myself. i
will no longer discuss any 2012, harvest, critical mass,
consciousness, fifth dimension, etc. for until i am centered in self,
these are just words, no more valid or less than the next ego in
speculation. to even predict to me seems to be denying the
fundamental law of the universe that every moment is new!
if david is trying to scare people in meditating, that too seem to
not be the way of light. i cannot say more since my ego is now
unwinding to such an extreme i think it's best to remain silent. i
hope david continues to go deeper within. i hope david would look
into kundalini meditation, which would facilitate the opening of all
his energy centers up to the crown chakra, so that david will be
merged with the divine. when that union has taken place, i would be
most interested in how the nature of david's work will change, if he
would continue with the work at all! i'm not sure at that point any
of us will care.
perhaps nothing needs be done but deepen the silence which increases
the prescence of the one! that to me would be the greatest service to
humanity, and would see to allow for an increase in "harvest" for as
i change, so does the universe. each additional enlightened being
changes the game dramatically. i think there is a high possibility
that before 2012, there will be millions of enlightened beings on the
planet. when this is manifest, the power of the prescence and force
of love will transmute any ideas that can be seen as negative
including a "small harvest" all you need is love.
let's transform ourselves, lets leave words for a later time, for now
it is just the mind speculating, and this seems to be a rather futile
exercise, even as developed a theory as david's, it's still mind-
stuff. words no matter how intricate, cannot capture this moment.
what may or may not happen in 2012 is primarily dependent on our
state of consciousness. david seems to imply most people are
not "fit" i suggest they havent had much choice due to the subtle
nature of the mind and religions lack of explaining it, never mind
all other resources. not intending to attack david as much as point
out that what he is saying now may not hold true in the future, as he
gets deeper within himself! this to me should be kept in mind, like
anything else, even davids work cannot be seen as a fixed entity, but
rather a flowing journey through his own awareness, and the end
result being he meditates and wakes up, then that was reason enough.
but to focus on the details, is not necessarily that wise. we should
all wake up first and then discuss. for how can one trust ones
judgement when one is still in the dualistic mode of consciousness?
time to turn off the internet and go within!
peace.
jason