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.Ace
04-19-2009, 03:08 PM
i'm sure many, if not all of us here know people that are completely narrow minded and basic athiests, in that they only see what they see with their own two eyes.
so here comes my statement and question then. my dad is what you can call a skeptic; an athiest. we talk all the time every time i get new information about basically anything in general (like most of the stuff on these forums). we always have a nice chat but he always ends up denying everything i say.
this makes me worry for him. if what everything we've learned from the law of one and ra material stays true to their words, what will happen to my dad.
now i'd like to also say that he is a good person, one of the nicest people you would ever meet on this earth. he has a rare disease in his nerves that has kept him from working since about 9 years or so. he basically what you could call a stay at home dad, with pain.
i'd like this to be a question not only coming from me, but of good, caring athiest persons on this planet. what will happen to them even though they are what you could consider sto ?

EmergingSpirit79
04-23-2009, 05:45 PM
from the ra material:


questioner: i am assuming that it is not necessary for an individual to understand the law of one to go from the third to the fourth density. is this correct?

ra: i am ra. it is absolutely necessary that an entity consciously realize it does not understand in order for it to be harvestable. understanding is not of this density.

questioner: that is a very important point. i used the wrong word. what i meant to say was that i believed that it was not necessary for an entity to be consciously aware of the law of one to go from the third to the fourth density.

ra: i am ra. this is correct.

hope it answers your question :)

C-JEAN
04-24-2009, 08:55 AM
hi ace.

what got me in this kind of world and mentality and forums is the film:
" what the bleep!? down the rabbit hole ".

it's a 3 dvd kit.
look at those with him. you could be nicely surprised !

it got me to david's books, that got me to ra. . .

ra could be " hard " for a newbee. . . b-) but,
the film, shows you the world on a nice side. . .

blue skies.

onething
04-24-2009, 01:30 PM
hello ace,

this is a question i have also thought about, not about harvestability but just about spiritual advancement in general.

in my view, there is a difference between those who believe in god and those who don't - but the difference is rather slight in most cases. the reason is that even those who profess belief really don't have it going on at a very deep level and they constantly interpret spiritual advice from the masters, such as jesus, in a materialistic way.

i find that the religious people are blind to their spiritual errors and ignorance, and many atheists and skeptics and agnostics are blind to the fact that they are progressing very nicely on their path! there is no such thing as a person not on a spiritual path. some acknowledge it, some don't.

i have a sister, for example, who has not paid a lot of attention to spritual matters. she said if there is a god she hasn't met him. but not so long ago, she said to me that the main problem with this world and the political systems is that people think that they can get their own pleasure and advantage at the expense of others.

that is the law of one more or less right there! she is also a very good person and wants to help the world.

another thing to point out is that it is all good - everyone will make it. it must surely be that some of our loved ones are not ready to go to 4d but we were also not ready to go to 4d until we were ready. perhaps some souls are younger than others. perhaps they took detours that will reap riches later on. all things are coming to perfection, and every person's path to the creator is like a snowflake - no two are alike.

.Ace
04-25-2009, 06:44 PM
thanks for the comforting and interesting replies guys, and i will try to check out that dvd, online of course:d

SONOFMAN
06-01-2009, 04:10 PM
my wife is an atheist.. no big deal. worst part is the frustration (to me) of having her fall out laughing if i were to try and talk to her about god, aliens, pyramids, paradigm shifts etc. kewl your dad will talk to you about it.

neat thing i discovered is she doesn't need that stuff the way most of the world does. she never needed the bible or some channeled entity from a higher density to tell her how to treat other people. to her it should just be common sense to everyone not to steal, lie, murder, etc. and to share the bounty of life with others who have not been so well endowed.

i stopped worrying about her , and everyone else, making the grade a long time ago. even without ever believing in god she is most likely a more advanced soul than any other person i have ever met. the "choice" that ra refers to is not to choose a belief structure to cling to. it is a choice to love yourself and see the creator there, love others and see the creator in them, love all of creation around you and see the creator there.

that choice made leads to oneness. whether the creator is god, jesus, the is, the one, or just good old mother nature doing her thing.

Nancy
06-01-2009, 06:31 PM
you and your father probably differ on several subjects if you think about it. what's important is that you accept each others' differences not impose your beliefs on him. he has the right to choose just as you did.
smile at each other, tease. don't ever stop talking. if a given issue seems to negatively come between you, drop it and go on to something else. you only get a limited time with a parent. keep it pleasant.

noppy
12-22-2009, 02:11 PM
my mother is a atheist. i and my father are talking al the time and she denials as always. evento she is like that she is a great teacher. she shows me what happens if you lose your soul. (in a sense that, you are a tv slave, live in the past and al your actions comes out of the past, negative energy everyday, believe the crapy doom day and religion, adictions) i don't like it but we are all one and it means that is also a part of me. i don't judge but i'm thanksful such a angle come into my live and remind me that there is a huge difrent on how somebody live there lives in fear or in love.

wow it's now 11:11 pm