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Bommer09
04-07-2009, 04:30 PM
hello everybody!

this thread is about a computer program developed around 17 years ago by terence mckenna called timewave zero.

anyways, way back when he developed this program called timewave zero that is based of the 64 hexagrams of of one of the sequences of the i-ching (i want to say king wen but i'm not sure if that's it)

anyways timewave zero purports to map out time in a linear fashion via a type of sine wave. the y axis of the timewave represents the amount of "novelty" present at that moment in time. the x axis represents the passage of time.

the tricky thing with this theory is defining exactly what novelty is. mckenna basically described it as the complexity and frequency of events happening in time.

if you want to look into this more look up timewave zero on youtube. i don't think anyone can explain it as well as the man who created it.

peace and love

11wanderer11
04-13-2009, 10:55 AM
you forgot to mention that it ends on 12/21/2012, seeming to show that time will stop. i remember terrence saying once that he thought maybe this woud be the date that time travel would be 'invented' or become possible, though according to david & others, it's already been done by secret government ops. it's definitely another nice piece of evidence for showing the shift will happen.

dude
04-13-2009, 02:41 PM
anyways timewave zero purports to map out time in a linear fashion via a type of sine wave. the y axis of the timewave represents the amount of "novelty" present at that moment in time. the x axis represents the passage of time.

the tricky thing with this theory is defining exactly what novelty is. mckenna basically described it as the complexity and frequency of events happening in time.

it's very interesting stuff. i watched a youtube thing a while ago and i believe part of the defintion of novelty he mentioned is "degree of connectedness".

04-13-2009, 04:38 PM
you forgot to mention that it ends on 12/21/2012, seeming to show that time will stop. i remember terrence saying once that he thought maybe this woud be the date that time travel would be 'invented' or become possible, though according to david & others, it's already been done by secret government ops. it's definitely another nice piece of evidence for showing the shift will happen.

terence mckenna never said that 12/21/2012 is a defenite date. actually in the program you can choose your end date. that was his choice. interesting how he came to this conclusion.
what fascinates me is how cycles of time repeat and always at faster rate. if you check the wave for ~250 years ending at 12/21/2012 with the wave beginning now and ending 12/21/2012 .... they are identical! the same wave patern in the last 20 days. reminds me about ian xel lungold lecture.
peace!

ETguy
04-13-2009, 09:02 PM
terence mckenna never said that 12/21/2012 is a defenite date. actually in the program you can choose your end date. that was his choice. interesting how he came to this conclusion.

what's really interesting is that the original end date he came up with was november, 2012, which was before he even knew that the mayan calendar ended in december, 2012. when he read about the mayan calendar end date, he adjusted the end date one month forward.

04-18-2009, 06:35 PM
i found this on one website (pm for link).
if you put march 30, 2009 in the program untill 12/21/2012 and compare the graph with the wave beginning with the birth of us until the end of time, you will see that the graphs are identical.
"no other combination of months and years have this effect. this means that according to the timewave, we have begun a period of history starting now that is an image or replica of the whole history of the united states but is completed from start to end in the period of 4 years."
"predicting events that "fit" into the time line are as simple as remembering history. ... notice the eerie resemblance to current events, i.e., the teabag campaign to congress started by the great youtube thomas paine guy."
(example: the great influenza pandemic of 1918 that killed somewhere between 20 to 40 million people corresponds to july , 2011 in the second replica graph. )

* december 16, 1773 - the "boston tea party" takes place.
* june 2, 1774 - maritial law is declared in massachusetts.
* october 26, 1774 - the minute men are established in america.
* april 19, 1775 - the revolutionary war officially begins with the battles of lexington and concord.
* july 9, 1778 - the continental congress approves the articles of confederation.
* august 8, 1786 - the continental congress adopts the "dollar" and decimal coinage.
* december 12, 1800 - washington, d.c. becomes the official capital of the united states.
* june 18, 1812 - united states declares war on britain.
* august 24, 1814 - the british set fire to washington, d.c.
* september 14, 1847 - american forces take mexico city.
* february 18, 1861 - jefferson davis is sworn in as the 1st president of the confederate states of america
* march 11, 1861 - the confederate congress adopts their constitution.
* april 12, 1861 - confederate forces begin an assault on fort sumter.
* may 6, 1861 - president abraham lincoln declares a state of insurrection in the southern states.
* july 1, 1863 - the battle of gettysburg begins.
* april 20, 1898 - the united states declares war on spain.
* july 28, 1914 - world war i begins as the ottoman empire declares war on bosnia.
* april 6, 1917 - the united states enters world war i on the side of the allies.
* 1918 the influenza pandemic
* october 29, 1929 - stock market crashes to an all time low signaling the start of the great depression.
* september 1, 1939 - germany invades poland.
* december 8, 1941 - the united states declares war on japan.
* august 6, 1945 - the united states drops the 1st atomic bomb on hiroshima, japan.
* august 9, 1945 - the united states drops the 2nd atomic bomb on nagasaki, japan.
* june 25, 1950 - the korean war officially starts as north korea invades south korea.
* november 1, 1952 - the united states detonates the 1st thermonuclear device.
* july 20, 1969 american astronaut neil armstrong is the 1st human to walk on the moon.
* august 2, 1990 - iraqi forces invade kuwait.
* december 16, 1998 - american forces launch the 1st of 3 air strikes at targets in iraq.

i have a lot of fun with this.
peace!

Preparer
12-11-2009, 12:15 PM
time speeding up?
how are you thinking about time? are you relating time to real world events or changes?

i sense that this group is witnessing mass change 'faster and faster'

well this means that time is slowing down, and we are speeding up.

just like a parachuter slows to softly land on the earth, time is slowing down so when the shock comes we don't crumple in a mess on the hard rock.

time is not speeding up. consciousness is.

i completely agree with this post. time is constant, everything else, including consciousness is speeding up, making it feel like time itself is speeding up. terence mckenna's time wave zero/novelty theory explains this well..

here is a brief 7 minute video clip explaining it...

http://current.com/items/89941260_terence-mckenna-timewave-zero-novelty-theory.htm moderator found another link that shows video.

mwr1026
04-05-2010, 01:54 PM
there is a lot of debate on the merits of terence mckenna's ideas and theories, including timewave zero. my take is that it is remarkable that he came up with this concept before anyone else i am aware of.

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mckenna's basic premise is that the universe preserves and is motivated by novelty. and that the movement, cyclically, since the beginning, has been toward greater and greater novelty. he proposed that the rate of increase in novelty has been accelerating all along, and that it is fast approaching infinity. this is precisely what calleman and lundgold have talked about as well.

whether the timewave zero software is accurate, or whether or not the i ching is a predictor of this, i don't know. but the fact that he came up with this years before anyone else, is very interesting to me.

one of mckenna's ideas was that the invention of time travel technology would trigger the tipping point into infinite novelty. that would surely do it.

he believed that the fact that we are not regularly visited by time travelers from the future is evidence that if time travel comes to be, it will be limited to the time during which time travel is known, and thus cannot go back farther than the introduction of the first time machine. i think there are some fallacies in this logic. we know that people see what they believe to be possible and nothing more. i went to school with the bare soles of my feet on the ground for 2 months at the end of my senior year of high school in 1970, and no one ever noticed. it was against the rules and if i had been caught, i would have been sent home for shoes. no one expected bare feet, so i went un-noticed. it could be the same way with intrusions from the future. we do not believe it possible so we do not see it happening.

in recent times, as more and more data comes in from science and media, the boundaries of perceived possibility are eroding and shifting. i think the tipping point to infinite novelty will come when the mass consciousness opens to the expanse of phenomena, including the true nature of time. call it time travel if you will. i think that when we reach that tipping point, all of history, all of prehistory, all of perception will be flooded with consciousness and the shift will completely transform everything, beyond imagining. we will see at that point that time travel, and mckenna's machine elves, and all sorts of things were always going on around us all along, but that our eyes were simply closed.

hyperspacelace
04-06-2010, 05:28 AM
this website has the time wave software down loadable in java format. this soft ware is pretty cool and is based on mckenna's works. its pretty cool and correlates relay well with the ebb and flow of habit and novelty throughout history.
http://www.timewave2012.com/

shupec
04-06-2010, 01:34 PM
most people, though more and more, realize that there are two nations - united states (corporation) and united states of america. i find it interesting that the corporate united states is purported to end december 2012, especially with the restore the republic and we the people foundation working independently but in the same efforts to return america out of united states, for the benefit of all the men and women upon the land.

as such, this is not a physical ending to our nation or the planet but rather an awakening and conscious change.

cynthia hs

_X_
04-06-2010, 08:09 PM
i think i remember seeing the corporate expiration date for the us on the internets somewhere a looong ago... do you happen to know where it was you saw that?

with the zero wave theory and 2012, i guess it means there are only so many times you can shuffle the deck until the novelty wears off (deck = tarot = cosmic archetypes).

it will be interesting to see what evidence mr. wilcock brings out to illustrate all these planetary micro and macro cycles...