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Ewhaz
04-06-2009, 03:36 AM
a truly humbling experience i think..

this homeless man goes on and on about spiritual matters and makes more sense than most civilized men do..

http://www.wimp.com/homelessman/

gnostic33
04-07-2009, 05:25 PM
my girlfriend was writting a paper and wanted to quote something jesus said and googled it. the quote was "what you do to the least of my breathren you do unto me" this first search site that came up was a picture of this "homeless" man. her breath was taken away she sent the picture to me and i just couldn't take my eyes of it.
peace to you all
lisa

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kros/132584336/
ps tooo many synchroncities when i am on this site:p

FooSnik
04-07-2009, 09:32 PM
wow! that guy is my hero! he had me hooked and i watched the whole 38 mins.

he talks a lot about abandoning fear. be a perfect servant for humanity. perform your service for free.

interesting that he said he met ascendant masters that live here on earth, too.

abandon fear. that is my next goal i think.

thanks for sharing that!

Purple Dragon
04-07-2009, 09:54 PM
a truly humbling experience i think..

this homeless man goes on and on about spiritual matters and makes more sense than most civilized men do..

he sure nails the law of one right down to a tee. so much it makes you wonder if he has read the whole series :confused:

aqcheryl
04-08-2009, 12:00 AM
vivek, to me, is just more proof of what we here have come to know, and why we found each other. from what hes saying, he received all this information on a spiritual level.

i could tell he was hanging out at the 3rd st promenade in santa monica. both of the kids talking to him, well at least they were listening, but that one with the magnifying glass that was jumping around high fiving... <shakes head>

conundrum
04-08-2009, 03:59 AM
i guess its like working in one of those sweat shops 18 hours a day for a hand full of rice or some thing not that you would want any thing in return except for the occasional slap in the face .
the trick is not to resent it but to do it with love and faith and don't expect any thing in return except pain and suffering and make sure you love the pain and suffering its paramount for your spiritual growth and don't judge the guy above you because he is probably coping it from his superiors coping a bonus that is.

i am glad that this is almost over or is it just the beginning ?

mmariebored
04-08-2009, 08:50 AM
it's clear that this guy is being mentally tortured. the girl who popped her head in and accused him of being a druggy was probably not far off, only it isn't a chemical high he's craving, it's the beam of 'love' he was 'raped' with that set him on this path of 'enlightenment'. seems more like he's being punished or punishing himself. most likely because of the erroneous notion that the lust in his head is 'bad', rather than a natural emotion, one of which we have to learn to moderate(*). it's no mystery where that notion came from...

conundrum, your posts always make me smile. i sometimes wonder about that 'bonus' myself.



*that is based on what he said, but you never know for sure what happened to him.

Ewhaz
04-08-2009, 01:01 PM
as with all things, be discerning. obviously there are distortions in this man's world view, just as assuredly there are distortions in each of our own world views.

is the man tortured? each of us is tortured by our own personal demons. there are more than a few traditions that talk about the 'the higher you go, the easier it becomes to become distorted' so no doubt this man has suffered a bit for the knowledge he came across, and expanding on it in his own personal path has led to a little distortion in his personality. i'd love to go speak with him myself.

LoveWins
04-08-2009, 04:22 PM
thank you for sharing ! regardless of distortions ( and yes i agree that is something we all have in one form and/ or another, as well as degrees of them )..... that doesn't detract from the powerful message ... this man is on to something isn't he? :-) fear or love.. it's a message that keeps repeating. it's a choice we all make over and over... nobody is perfect that i know of. but to be aware of the fact that life does seem to distill down to these two choices is just awesome to see in anyone.

like everything else, take the best, what's worthy and meaningful to you and leave the rest is always the wisest approach i think..

well wishes,
sherry

Ali Quadir
04-08-2009, 06:22 PM
interesting :) very interesting!

the guy obviously knows truth. yet is warned not to make the mistake to tell others because they may not be ready. and the other guys in the movie go wild with the knowledge, but without the understanding. and his ego kicks in with the desire to get them to understand. he certainly sees that problem himself which is awesome. and i know a bunch of young sufi's that act in exactly the same way as his young audience. it's natural. there seem to be three phases, the enthusiasm to see something incredible, the desire to mentally understand the incredible, and finally allowing the incredible to be a reality.

the experiences that the guy describes are not uncommon. i've seen drunks explain the same things. (sufi's call the experience "drinking divine wine" for the effects are the same to the uninitiated) understanding them for what they are is uncommon. and i think he does.

but it's an awesome display of intelligence and interpersonal dynamics.

and is it my imagination or did the guy who was actually crying at the end actually get sparked? his hunches were confirmed to the point of self initiation :) and what happened to the camera, was the point of initiation edited or did the camera really fail?

it's all the more incredible since the guy that got initiated also was playing with magnifying glasses as if he was sherlock holmes trying to crack a code :) lol. he seems to have cracked it... this movie is just awesome on so many levels. i have to see it again soon!

Purple Dragon
04-08-2009, 06:33 PM
it is very possible that he has chosen the life he is leading so he can experience the creator without distraction. i thought all of his points were very on track and was amazed at the terminology he was using. he even talked about the love/light and being contacted by his higher self.

if more people were open to love like this guy, the world would be a much happier place. it would be a most interesting to have conversation with him about the law of one, face to face.

mmariebored
04-08-2009, 07:40 PM
and is it my imagination or did the guy who was actually crying at the end actually get sparked? his hunches were confirmed to the point of self initiation :) and what happened to the camera, was the point of initiation edited or did the camera really fail?

i couldn't tell for sure, but the edit felt real, not staged.
the blonde kid and the homeless man sure seemed to be on the same vibe or had the same energies flowing through them. like they were passing the 'horn' between them.

aqcheryl
04-08-2009, 08:02 PM
i guess its like working in one of those sweat shops 18 hours a day for a hand full of rice or some thing not that you would want any thing in return except for the occasional slap in the face .
the trick is not to resent it but to do it with love and faith and don't expect any thing in return except pain and suffering and make sure you love the pain and suffering its paramount for your spiritual growth and don't judge the guy above you because he is probably coping it from his superiors coping a bonus that is.

i am glad that this is almost over or is it just the beginning ?

i quite agree - sometimes a situation like they are in ends up being more profound then not being homeless. its a real eye opener, because it can definitely shake one out of a set way of thinking.

i also agree, the trick is to not resent it, and not to judge others just because they are, as you say, above you - because no one is above anyone anyways - we are one.


thank you for sharing ! regardless of distortions ( and yes i agree that is something we all have in one form and/ or another, as well as degrees of them )..... that doesn't detract from the powerful message ... this man is on to something isn't he? :-) fear or love.. it's a message that keeps repeating. it's a choice we all make over and over... nobody is perfect that i know of. but to be aware of the fact that life does seem to distill down to these two choices is just awesome to see in anyone.

like everything else, take the best, what's worthy and meaningful to you and leave the rest is always the wisest approach i think..

this is something else i agree with :)
the same goes when we hear something - look at the message for what it is, and distinguish both the perceptions of the one relaying the message, and our own forming as we hear them.

i too thought it was interesting that hes met ascended individuals, as he says. or perhaps very high up towards ascension.

if i had been there i would have told him its okay that you are relaying the message because fate planted those two (or three?) guys there at exact synchronicity for this to occur, so it was meant to be. even if their video touched just one person, its begun its purpose :)

because in the end, all he can do is share the information - it is those who hear it who make the choice of belief or not - it is they who discern if they are ready to hear it. so to have avoided/stopped talking about it is a bit like taking away their free will as they wanted to hear it. all we can do is put the information out there.


the experiences that the guy describes are not uncommon. i've seen drunks explain the same things. (sufi's call the experience "drinking divine wine" for the effects are the same to the uninitiated) understanding them for what they are is uncommon. and i think he does.

i believe it was david i heard saying that indeed, alcohol is considered spirits for this reason :)

huckleberry
04-08-2009, 08:34 PM
that was simply amazing.

Ali Quadir
04-09-2009, 02:30 AM
i couldn't tell for sure, but the edit felt real, not staged.
the blonde kid and the homeless man sure seemed to be on the same vibe or had the same energies flowing through them. like they were passing the 'horn' between them.

yes, i thought so! and as happens more often. the homeless guy as the initiator is not completely aware of what is happening. he's not in control of the process. but his actions did help the other to get sparked.

this is considered slightly messy i believe. i believe etiquette is to initiate only on request. and with some preparations.. certainly not by accident... then again :) these are the best experiences... sometimes a student is so ready that he just self initiates in the presence of a master. the energy releases in the few cases that i have seen are usually brutal!

one of my sufi friends explained how people getting close together is like putting burnable materials close to each other. when a spark hits one of them, it's likely more of them will catch fire. just by being in the presence of a master you become more of a master yourself. even if that master is a half grown master. :) this is a function of energy. and requires no training or preparation. just proximity and some empathy.

and if even the camera was affected by this release of energy.. then i can certainly understand that the blonde kid got a little emotional. matter is atomic energy man! look at me this is important!

Jehanne
04-09-2009, 06:20 AM
this guy was amazing, made me feel so good to watch this video. thanks very much for sharing this. it reminded me of a few occasions in my life i met inspired people with messages of this nature and i would have loved to video tape it. these kind of profound messages can stick in sentiment and memory but without the detail of exact wording that can be captured by video. technology can be used to bring about positive results!

FooSnik
04-09-2009, 06:26 AM
buddha...


when buddha was going round begging for alms as a mendicant, his father, suddhodhana, called him and said: "son! why are you going about as a beggar? i am a king and you are leading the life of a beggar. this is not proper at all." buddha gave him a fitting reply. "sire, you are brahmam (the one god) and i am brahmam. you are not the father and i am not the son. both of us are brahmam. in the phenomenal world, you belong to the lineage of rulers. i belong to the lineage of renunciants. all those who follow my ideals are all renunciants. your lineage is based on attachment. my lineage is based on renunciation. to those who have attachment, it becomes a disease. to the renunciants, detachment becomes the means to nirvana (liberation from bondage)".

http://www.cosmicharmony.com/av/buddha/buddha.htm

Vermillion
04-09-2009, 08:31 AM
wow! thank you for this, i loved this video, there is sooo much truth in this.

blessings to you!

weboy78
04-09-2009, 11:22 AM
about two years later , the italian tv (state tv) rai transmitted a special on homeless peoples in italy
at some point one homeless said to the journalist :"jesus is about to return very soon"..

Ali Quadir
04-09-2009, 01:12 PM
about two years later , the italian tv (state tv) rai transmitted a special on homeless peoples in italy
at some point one homeless said to the journalist :"jesus is about to return very soon"..

another homeless once called me jesus. i think he was schizophrenic. he told me he loved me and then accused me of smoking a pipe. what could i do? i told him i loved him too, said that i was proud of him and told him to get well and have faith. he had a beautiful dalmatian with him.

i suppose not everything the homeless say is true. but in his defense, my looks have been compared to jesus before. ;)

Vermillion
04-10-2009, 07:34 AM
the guy crying at the end was faking it, and they became less serious at the end, but the homeless man is a genious.

even though well all have that knowledge.

mmariebored
04-10-2009, 02:22 PM
yes, i thought so! and as happens more often. the homeless guy as the initiator is not completely aware of what is happening. he's not in control of the process. but his actions did help the other to get sparked.

this is considered slightly messy i believe. i believe etiquette is to initiate only on request. and with some preparations.. certainly not by accident... then again :) these are the best experiences... sometimes a student is so ready that he just self initiates in the presence of a master. the energy releases in the few cases that i have seen are usually brutal!

one of my sufi friends explained how people getting close together is like putting burnable materials close to each other. when a spark hits one of them, it's likely more of them will catch fire. just by being in the presence of a master you become more of a master yourself. even if that master is a half grown master. :) this is a function of energy. and requires no training or preparation. just proximity and some empathy.

and if even the camera was affected by this release of energy.. then i can certainly understand that the blonde kid got a little emotional. matter is atomic energy man! look at me this is important!
i completely agree. i've had this happen to me on more than one occasion, it's as if we ignite each other and, it almost feels like we're in a weightless wind tunnel. sometimes just reading material back and forth can do this.

Makaveli512
04-12-2009, 01:01 AM
wow, homeless guy is very deep, respect. makes me think about all the people i see as subordinate. vivek needs his own website, book and forum.
however, the guys filming him are very rude and not fully in tune with what he's saying; but they know not what they do. the guy at the end is obviously faking it, geez, they made this video with the intention of it being comical (he says that on youtube).

aqcheryl
04-12-2009, 07:32 AM
wow, homeless guy is very deep, respect. makes me think about all the people i see as subordinate. vivek needs his own website, book and forum.
however, the guys filming him are very rude and not fully in tune with what he's saying; but they know not what they do. the guy at the end is obviously faking it, geez, they made this video with the intention of it being comical (he says that on youtube).

regardless their intent, the message will get across to those who listen - because they will find themselves resonating with vivek and not the 'children'.
i do agree they were disrespectful, i do not like or condone rudeness, its not treating others as equals. do unto others...
however... i do realize that as this video was meant to be seen on the internet and thus spread... perhaps their very antics were fated to happen because it will make those who normally wouldnt pay attention to what vivek is saying... start listening out of annoyance of the two guys.

mmariebored
04-12-2009, 10:14 AM
the real value of his message is that he was not purposely aiming it at anyone in particular. that is when you get the full effects of truth. at least this is what i've noticed. the message seems to flow with power when it's for the good of all and there is no purposeful intent of negativity towards anyone. that always seems to palpably taint a message.


and he didn't want to appear grandious and wise in front of everyone, he kept stating he was a "beginner"..i found that refreshing.

Purple Dragon
04-12-2009, 01:16 PM
regardless their intent, the message will get across to those who listen - because they will find themselves resonating with vivek and not the 'children'.
i do agree they were disrespectful, i do not like or condone rudeness, its not treating others as equals. do unto others...
however... i do realize that as this video was meant to be seen on the internet and thus spread... perhaps their very antics were fated to happen because it will make those who normally wouldnt pay attention to what vivek is saying... start listening out of annoyance of the two guys.

very true this is, and we also need to remember that love is more visible when standing next to guys like these. i was very impressed with vivek when the one lady came and said something ignorant about him, and he just said "that's ok, she doesn't exist in my reality anyway".

if we could all ignore the disrespectful, they may just give up and stop bugging us. at least the guys that made the film still state that they do respect vivek, and as they said in their video, they would make sure lots of people saw it. no matter the intentions, all our higher selves are working to get this information out there however we can.

thanks to vivek for being strong with his beliefs even with ridiculed out in the open :d

Makaveli512
04-12-2009, 01:41 PM
perhaps their very antics were fated to happen because it will make those who normally wouldnt pay attention to what vivek is saying... start listening out of annoyance of the two guys.
yea i know what you mean, it's funny how things work out like that, i love it!

aqcheryl
04-12-2009, 03:08 PM
very true this is, and we also need to remember that love is more visible when standing next to guys like these. i was very impressed with vivek when the one lady came and said something ignorant about him, and he just said "that's ok, she doesn't exist in my reality anyway".

if we could all ignore the disrespectful, they may just give up and stop bugging us. at least the guys that made the film still state that they do respect vivek, and as they said in their video, they would make sure lots of people saw it. no matter the intentions, all our higher selves are working to get this information out there however we can.

thanks to vivek for being strong with his beliefs even with ridiculed out in the open :d

oh yes, i was impressed with his response to that lady as well. granted i do think if it were me i wouldnt have said she doesnt exist, i would have rather said that is okay i respect her opinion, and i send her light and love. :)
but still the way he did respond was very good because he didnt allow it to invoke fear in him.

i do wish we could find vivek and tell him hey, your message is out there and you are spreading the light, and you did do a good service. and then id buy him lunch.