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Jeremy Weiland
03-12-2002, 08:59 AM
> my brother's recent, amazing et contact experience,
> which hopefully he will
> have finished for publication soon, was designed to
> teach me / us that
> ascension is an incremental process, not just an
> all-at-once mega-conclusion.

so you still believe that an outward, publicly
undeniable harvest scenario will play out in the end,
right?

it seems like, at the individual level, ascension *is*
incremental, since it has so much to do with the
lessons and energetics of personal experience. but
how is the incremental ascension tied into the
"public" ascension?

maybe energies incrementally build up in noticable
ways only at the personal level and in certain
milestone events on the public, humanity-wide level,
but once a critical mass of polarization is reached
the whole process moves from a quanitative change of
energy to a qualitative?

i guess i'm just curious how an incremental ascension
can be reconciled with a harvest, unless we get back
to the adept/public ascension argument that korga
brought up early in list history. i've experienced
ear blasts and numerical synchronicities and stuff
like that, but i never thought of them as ascension
events, just normal life and the signposts along the
way.

jeremy

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David Wilcock
03-12-2002, 10:01 AM
from: "jeremy weiland" <greenlantern113@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=7xpgj6tufobjrdyplzz55rudcpeyzw2ndaj-t4u4ndnfs3rvykbanstwjar55mtrxnqopu-_3bojjbs7z4wkjq)>

> so you still believe that an outward, publicly
> undeniable harvest scenario will play out in the end,
> right?

dw: unquestionably. the question is really about how many increments we can
punch through before that moment of critical mass arrives.

> it seems like, at the individual level, ascension *is*
> incremental, since it has so much to do with the
> lessons and energetics of personal experience. but
> how is the incremental ascension tied into the
> "public" ascension?

dw: we have complete opportunity in the now to make use of catalyst. there
is a final point where we will have done as much as we can do in 3d.

> maybe energies incrementally build up in noticable
> ways only at the personal level and in certain
> milestone events on the public, humanity-wide level,
> but once a critical mass of polarization is reached
> the whole process moves from a quanitative change of
> energy to a qualitative?

dw: actually i think the public is shifting as well as the private. look not
simply to the big milestones but to the overall changes that are being seen
across the board, which the media is having an increasingly impossible time
of trying to ignore. they've already harnessed the chariot of profits to 4d
stuff because that's what the public wants. some of them. let's say that.

i think the important thing to remember is that the final "shift" moment is
determined by a spontaneous change in the earth's grid - but there can be
many sub-levels of change before then, the spate of recent mega-quakes as
one example, however they were ultimately triggered.

> i guess i'm just curious how an incremental ascension
> can be reconciled with a harvest, unless we get back
> to the adept/public ascension argument that korga
> brought up early in list history. i've experienced
> ear blasts and numerical synchronicities and stuff
> like that, but i never thought of them as ascension
> events, just normal life and the signposts along the
> way.

dw: i didn't either - but to have a ufo sighting and say "now all i need is
a ball of light to visit me during the night," then to find out that my
brother had seen just that the night before and it gave him this message for
me, i decided that i'd better listen... :)

peace be with you -

- david

Tiffani Boswell
03-12-2002, 03:04 PM
>
> dw: we have complete opportunity in the now to make use of catalyst. there
> is a final point where we will have done as much as we can do in 3d.

i would seem to differ....if "we" had done as much as we can do in 3d then
we wouldn't have such a small harvest? right?