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chamil1950

03-10-2002, 02:58 PM

as a wanderer, i feel it is my responsibility to be as unbiased and
non-judgemental (i.e. no polarity) when discussing spirituality and
all that it entails. this responsibility also extends into the
knowledge needed to properly discuss this. (thus, my frustration on
my last post that i couldn't seem to read enough in order to be a
viable piece of this group). developement of a singular personal
ideal is often quite frustating when all that written stuff is out
there :). my point is, that all of you quoting specific doctrines
need to read more than one viewpoint, even if you don't agree with
others. because an individual is a singular expression of the one,
each one will express differently, and that is why you need to be
yourself first, just as david intimated before. don't stop at one
channel or one psychologist or one doctrine or one person. keep
learning so that your expression is your own and not someone else's.
from within your own expression, not other things or people, emanates
your wholeness and uniqueness, which brings you closer to creation.
thanks for listening guys.. chris

Jeremy Weiland

03-11-2002, 06:42 AM

> developement of a singular personal ideal is often
> quite frustating when all that written stuff is out
> there :). my point is, that all of you quoting
> specific doctrines need to read more than one
> viewpoint, even if you don't agree with others.
> because an individual is a singular expression of
> the one, each one will express differently, and that

> is why you need to be yourself first, just as david
> intimated before. don't stop at one channel or one
> psychologist or one doctrine or one person.

i wholeheartedly agree with this. the whole point of
these different approaches is to bring *you* to a
closer relationship with god, not to follow the
leader. there is much out there that is helpful, but
no teaching can do all the work for you. take what is
useful and discard the rest.

> keep learning so that your expression is your own
> and not someone else's. from within your own
> expression, not other things or people, emanates
> your wholeness and uniqueness, which brings you
> closer to creation.

right. the whole idea is to have an approach that
works for you personally. if it doesn't work at the
personal level, how can it ever work among a group
such as this one?

thanks for sharing, chris.

jeremy

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03-11-2002, 06:57 AM

<tt>chris,<xml:namespace prefix="o" ns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"></xml:namespace><o:p></o:p></tt>
<tt>>as a wanderer, i feel it is my responsibility to be as unbiased and </tt>
<tt>non-judgmental (i.e. no polarity) when discussing spirituality and </tt>
<tt>all that it entails. this responsibility also extends into the </tt>
<tt>knowledge needed to properly discuss this. ><o:p></o:p></tt>
<tt>i am trying hard to deal with-non-judgmental-no polarity myself-but i find it very hard to do-i am constantly catching myself having little mental blurbs about people-or mostly about the things they do-i know that everyone has free will and makes their life choices based on this but sometimes i find it hard-especially when people try and blame others for their own choices-does this make sense??? (my mom constantly tries to make me feel guilty for her bad choices)-i?m not sure if i am properly addressing your comment-when i discuss spirituality with some people-they will get defensive because i have a plan-many of my friends are more interested in the new flip cell phone or spending money constantly. so i find myself getting frustrated at these people-especially when they call me (time after time)-saying i have no money, i?ve gotten behind-or i?ll never find anyone to spend my life with- when they are outwardly focusing on material things not what is going to change the real problems so they can find true happiness.<o:p></o:p></tt>
<tt><o:p></o:p></tt>
<tt><(thus, my frustration on my last post that i couldn't seem to read enough in order to be a viable piece of this group). > <o:p></o:p></tt>
<tt>i personally feel that you do not have to read everything to find the answers you are looking for-books can be catalyst to higher knowledge ?just like the people in this group and the people in our lives-i feel everyone can give valuable information-for example my grandmother had a 5th grade education-could not spell and only read the bible and the news-paper her entire life-but she had life knowledge individual to her that she shared with me.-and most importantly she loved me.<o:p></o:p></tt>
<tt><o:p></o:p></tt>
<tt><my point is, that all of you quoting specific doctrines </tt>
<tt>need to read more than one viewpoint, even if you don't agree with </tt>
<tt>others. ). ><o:p></o:p></tt>
<tt>i agree-just try and read what resonates with you-i also work and have a husband, 10 month old daughter and an active social life so it is difficult to find the time-i try and read about 20 min at night before bed-if i?m not too tired!!?i really don?t have a singular ideal-i rely heavily on how something makes me feel-intuition-gut feelings-if it feels right then most likely it is. <o:p></o:p></tt>
<tt><o:p></o:p></tt>
<tt><because an individual is a singular statement of the one, </tt>
<tt>each one will express differently, and that is why you need to be </tt>
<tt>yourself first,> right on.<o:p></o:p></tt>
<tt><o:p></o:p></tt>
<tt><keep learning so that your statement is your own and not someone else's. from within your own statement, not other things or people, emanates your wholeness and uniqueness, which brings you closer to creation.> i am a teacher so learning is what i am all about-but i?ve learned that my beliefs are always evolving as i make new contacts and experience life everyday! i often reflect the statements of others-is any statement actually my own??? i guess i?ve rambled enough.<o:p></o:p></tt>
<tt>cheers-light and love,<o:p></o:p></tt>
<tt>donna b.<o:p></o:p></tt>

 

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