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Dennis

02-05-2001, 09:36 PM

to all seekers & bringers of light:

my hope is to provide some clarity with regard to service to self
vs others. for what i bring to others, that truly comes from my
heart will surely come back me. when jesus said do unto others as you
would have them do unto you, he was teaching cause and effect. what
you cause another to experience, you will some day experience
yourself. to determine why something has come into your life you
simply have to search for the cause of the effect.

jeremy is correct. all is one, there is no other. separation or
disunity is an illusion. this and other illusions are third
dimensional and exist in the field of relativity on the planet
earth. all have chosen this experience of oppposites. (love, fear,
hot, cold, here, there, life and death. ect..) you are an
individuation of god. these illusions have a purpose and the mass
consciousness has agreed to live with these under the veil of
forgetfulness. this relative field of existence is but one way the
creator god can experience life exponentially! every second of every
minute are we recreating a new experience. it is impossible not to,
for all life changes. we create our existence with our thoughts.
every man made obect you can see was once a thought and i would
venture to say that the universe itself was once a thought and yes
created by you, me, the all that is. god, the universal dreamer!
inifinite power, infinite love & infinite wisdom! amen

we are spirit in human flesh. death is an illusion! we must transcend/
overcome our fear of death. death does not exist! we are spirit and we
simply change form which is exactly what david's website proves. we
move from the realm of relativity to the absolute. because we are
sririt and we do not die, we need no-thing. need is an illusion. we
must transcend/overcome need. because we do not die, we do not need
anything. this includes, food, shelter, water, and yes even god and
this is what the forces tell us in davids readings! we are a part of
god, because god is all there is!!! we are never apart from god!
it is impossible to be, unless you think it is, be(cause) your
thoughts create your reality (effect). god talks to everyone,
everyday. the question is not who god talks to, but who listens? my
friends if you do not go within, you go without! your divine power
is within you! you are it! you will never find god outside yourself!
so go within! discover your true being and remember who you are!
you my beloveds are divine love! and once you experience this true
bliss your life will never be the same!!! when you can maintain this
blissful state of "being" indeed youn allow god (universal light)
to shine on all you meet thus transforming there state of "being"
by simply coming into contact with yours. this is true service to
others and to self and the planet because there is no other, only you!
now you are a supreme being (god). ye are gods!

the choice now before us is, do we want to continue to lives
consciously or unconsciously. to live unconsciously, we literally live
from the subconscious or from past memories, where every decision we
make is based on past learned information. or do
we choose to live consciously, where we live in the present guided
by our intuition or higher god self. here we live on the edge.
we place our faith, trust & love in gods hands and simply know
that we are loved and cared for more than we could possibly ever
imagine!!!! there is nothing you have to do, just "be" love! all
else will be drawn to you. the reason your are here is to heal this
space. it is this only reason you are here.

with love & clarity!
i am dennis

universal laws: http://www.greatdreams.com/vision1.htm

the law of ascension. this law defines the high vibrational frequency
which the soul of an incarnational being is resonating. when a
personality looses the illusion of separation from it's god self, the
vibration of that person raises to the point of ascension. no longer
does this mean that the incarnational personality leaves the earth
plane to live a finer existence. we are meant to bring our loving
energies to our every day existence, becoming an example or role model
for others to emulate. we can recognize this vibrational frequency in
others by the degree to which they are a magnet to others.

korga@...

02-06-2001, 06:46 AM

dennis,

i agree with most of what you've said as it does come close to the heart of
things. however i must say that your
interpretation of the jesus quote is a bit off.

--- in asc2k@y..., "dennis" <dholmes@k...> wrote:
> to all seekers & bringers of light:
>
> my hope is to provide some clarity with regard to service to self
> vs others. for what i bring to others, that truly comes from my
> heart will surely come back me. when jesus said do unto others as you
> would have them do unto you, he was teaching cause and effect. what
> you cause another to experience, you will some day experience
> yourself. to determine why something has come into your life you
> simply have to search for the cause of the effect.

to be perfectly honest i find it hard to believe that jesus said this in the
active context. it sounds more to me
like a misinterpretation of the disciples of the cannonical gospels. even such
the heart of the meaning of this is
not lost though not readily accessible. it's cause and effect but not in the
traditional vain. doing unto others as
you would have them do unto you is very much about you being the cause of your
death effect. traditionally in
most traditions after death there is the reconning which we commonly refer to as
life flashing before our eyes. it
isn't just like a movie though but truly an experience. everything that you
have done is then done again but this
time to you. so everything that you have done to others is in turn done to you.

the purpose of this is to determine one's attatchment. whether we are 'good' or
'bad' this is an overwhelming
experience which most people can't handle as they are quite attatched to the
experience. this is the point where
the majority of people black-out lose their memory and are later reincarnated to
repeat life again. ascension in
essence is not becoming attatched to your life. the easiest way to do this is
to discover the nonduality of life
while still alive and begin recognizing it in everything you do (harder than you
think). it's actually rather
paradoxical that in order to retain 'yourself' you have to detatch yourself from
'yourself.'

incarnations
korga

David Wilcock

02-06-2001, 08:48 AM

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>thank you both for promoting the types of discussion that will get others thinking and participating.
>
>my 2 cents is that there are a number of levels of ascension. what korga seems to be referring
>to here is indeed closely related to what dennis is referring to. both of these paths represent
>the unity or sacramental nature of all things path, which is the "gateway" or seventh density
>teachings that allow a spark of divinity to return to the oneness. to truly become the creator
>is indeed the greatest challenge. the idea of transparency of personality is certainly a part
>of this. just last night i had another very intense dream about the public's fear of mad cow /
>bio type stuff that would be hurting the public. we can all agree that there are a lot of problems
>here on the earth and that the people have gotten a leader who reflects that. the dream 
>again duplicated the other nightmare that i had earlier this month, which i have not yet
>written about. this time it was clear that it was talking about the bush regime as coming
>in and causing enormous problems. there was no doubt of that.
>
>so, i would just remind those on this list, not that i am attempting to "win" or to
>"convince" anyone, that the "public" ascension is simply being above 50% 
>service to others. anyone who takes the time to study ra's words, especially
>by going into the texts themselves, will begin to appreciate how each density
>is a progressive step of self-realization that can be made within each person 
>at any time. these densities correspond to the chakras and their meanings
>are written throughout history. it is all about passing into the heart center, or
>the green-ray center. this is not a difficult process.
>
>the type of ascension that korga mentions is not the "public ascension" that
>we are talking about in shift of the ages and other sources. there is a difference.
>what he is probing is the true adept's ascension path, which is a special case
>that ra also covers in the books. if you can open up all the chakral levels to
>sufficient purity while alive, ultimately by applying teachings such as those
>in the ra books or in ancient eastern metaphysics, then you can essentially
>ascend at will, or stay on the earth and be of service in that form, with all the
>miracles and powers of the true initiate in tow.
>
>i feel that i can state with confidence that our intent is not to confuse people.
>if someone wishes to go to the highest level within themselves possible, they
>can certainly do that while still incarnate here on earth. and at the same time,
>there is nothing wrong with simply being a "nice person" and clearing the grade
>for the "public" 4d ascension that is now taking place. this public ascension is
>not intended to be complex or difficult; it should be potentially attainable to the
>majority of souls on this planet. the initiatory path of the adept, of actually 
>living the unity / sacramental nature of all things teachings on a continual 
>basis, is extremely, extremely difficult. that is apparently what i am supposed
>to start focusing on after these projects are finished; but this is certainly not
>a "requirement" for participation. discussions about the path of the adept are
>fine, but they shouldn't be used in the context of drawing people away from
>the simple importance of serving others to "make the grade."
>
nuff said. today should be another good workday and i've stated my piece -
>there won't be time for me to participate much more in this discussion.
>
>peace be with you -
>
>- david
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style="font: 10pt arial">----- original message -----
style="background: #e4e4e4; font: 10pt arial; font-color: black">from: korga@hotmail.com
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style="font: 10pt arial">sent: tuesday, february 06, 2001 9:46 am
style="font: 10pt arial">subject: [asc2k] re: the universal spiritual laws of creation & ascension
>
<tt>dennis,

i agree with most of what you've said as it does come close to the heart of things. however i must say that your
interpretation of the jesus quote is a bit off.

--- in asc2k@y..., "dennis" <dholmes@k...> wrote:
> to all seekers & bringers of light:
>
> my hope is to provide some clarity with regard to service to self
> vs others. for what i bring to others, that truly comes from my
> heart will surely come back me. when jesus said do unto others as you
> would have them do unto you, he was teaching cause and effect. what
> you cause another to experience, you will some day experience
> yourself. to determine why something has come into your life you
> simply have to search for the cause of the effect.

to be perfectly honest i find it hard to believe that jesus said this in the active context. it sounds more to me
like a misinterpretation of the disciples of the cannonical gospels. even such the heart of the meaning of this is
not lost though not readily accessible. it's cause and effect but not in the traditional vain. doing unto others as
you would have them do unto you is very much about you being the cause of your death effect. traditionally in
most traditions after death there is the reconning which we commonly refer to as life flashing before our eyes. it
isn't just like a movie though but truly an experience. everything that you have done is then done again but this
time to you. so everything that you have done to others is in turn done to you.

the purpose of this is to determine one's attatchment. whether we are 'good' or 'bad' this is an overwhelming
experience which most people can't handle as they are quite attatched to the experience. this is the point where
the majority of people black-out lose their memory and are later reincarnated to repeat life again. ascension in
essence is not becoming attatched to your life. the easiest way to do this is to discover the nonduality of life
while still alive and begin recognizing it in everything you do (harder than you think). it's actually rather
paradoxical that in order to retain 'yourself' you have to detatch yourself from 'yourself.'

incarnations
korga

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Jeremy Weiland

02-06-2001, 12:58 PM

>dennis,
>
>i agree with most of what you've said as it does come close to the heart of
things. however i must say that your
>interpretation of the jesus quote is a bit off.

if i may, korga, what you mean is that you disagree with that
interpretation, right?
obviously there are many different approaches to jesus's teachings, and
i seriously doubt that, when i wasn't looking, you got a monopoly on
christian truth, korga. :-)
when you're discussing via email, it's important to be diplomatic.

traditional vain. doing unto others as
>you would have them do unto you is very much about you being the cause of
your death effect. traditionally in
>most traditions after death there is the reconning which we commonly refer
to as life flashing before our eyes. it
>isn't just like a movie though but truly an experience. everything that
you have done is then done again but this
>time to you. so everything that you have done to others is in turn done to
you.

by watching what you did (in the afterlife), you experience the effect
of your actions? interesting, and i'd love to know which traditions embrace
this interpretation of jesus's golden rule.
the unity of life idea that dennis was talking about seems much more
general and just as valid an interpretation, imho.

>the purpose of this is to determine one's attatchment. whether we are
'good' or 'bad' this is an overwhelming >experience which most people can't
handle as they are quite attatched to the experience. this is the point
where
>the majority of people black-out lose their memory and are later
reincarnated to repeat life again. ascension in
>essence is not becoming attatched to your life. the easiest way to do this
is to discover the nonduality of life
>while still alive and begin recognizing it in everything you do (harder
than you think). it's actually rather
>paradoxical that in order to retain 'yourself' you have to detatch yourself
from 'yourself.'

somehow i don't think jesus was trying to teach something *that*
complex, though you are certainly entitled to your opinion.
do unto others (i.e. serve others) as you would have them do unto you
(i.e. because they are you). through service to others, we acheive service
to self that is congruent with the reality of things, which is unity.
conversely, through service to self, you acheive service to others, by
providing them with catalyst by which they may polarize in their chosen
direction. sts serves by reinforcing the experience of separation, sto by
reinforcing unity.
any thoughts on that? i'm sort of stuck on the idea of, if sts is a
philosophy rooted in illusion, how can it be as valid as / equal to sto?
l/l
jeremy

Jeremy Weiland

02-06-2001, 01:04 PM

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> well said. i always knew we had a conflict of terms going on in what korga was saying compared to what the generally accepted ascension beliefs were on this list... and now we have a separate term for each one. this should ease discussion greatly, since we won't be fighting over the "ascension" word.
> i feel great relief in this being resolved :-)
>
> love and light,
> jeremy
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>-----original message-----
from: david wilcock <djw333@exis.net>
to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com <asc2k@yahoogroups.com>
date: tuesday, february 06, 2001 11:49 am
subject: re: [asc2k] re: the universal spiritual laws of creation & ascension


>thank you both for promoting the types of discussion that will get others thinking and participating.
>
>my 2 cents is that there are a number of levels of ascension. what korga seems to be referring
>to here is indeed closely related to what dennis is referring to. both of these paths represent
>the unity or sacramental nature of all things path, which is the "gateway" or seventh density
>teachings that allow a spark of divinity to return to the oneness. to truly become the creator
>is indeed the greatest challenge. the idea of transparency of personality is certainly a part
>of this. just last night i had another very intense dream about the public's fear of mad cow /
>bio type stuff that would be hurting the public. we can all agree that there are a lot of problems
>here on the earth and that the people have gotten a leader who reflects that. the dream 
>again duplicated the other nightmare that i had earlier this month, which i have not yet
>written about. this time it was clear that it was talking about the bush regime as coming
>in and causing enormous problems. there was no doubt of that.
>
>so, i would just remind those on this list, not that i am attempting to "win" or to
>"convince" anyone, that the "public" ascension is simply being above 50% 
>service to others. anyone who takes the time to study ra's words, especially
>by going into the texts themselves, will begin to appreciate how each density
>is a progressive step of self-realization that can be made within each person 
>at any time. these densities correspond to the chakras and their meanings
>are written throughout history. it is all about passing into the heart center, or
>the green-ray center. this is not a difficult process.
>
>the type of ascension that korga mentions is not the "public ascension" that
>we are talking about in shift of the ages and other sources. there is a difference.
>what he is probing is the true adept's ascension path, which is a special case
>that ra also covers in the books. if you can open up all the chakral levels to
>sufficient purity while alive, ultimately by applying teachings such as those
>in the ra books or in ancient eastern metaphysics, then you can essentially
>ascend at will, or stay on the earth and be of service in that form, with all the
>miracles and powers of the true initiate in tow.
>
>i feel that i can state with confidence that our intent is not to confuse people.
>if someone wishes to go to the highest level within themselves possible, they
>can certainly do that while still incarnate here on earth. and at the same time,
>there is nothing wrong with simply being a "nice person" and clearing the grade
>for the "public" 4d ascension that is now taking place. this public ascension is
>not intended to be complex or difficult; it should be potentially attainable to the
>majority of souls on this planet. the initiatory path of the adept, of actually 
>living the unity / sacramental nature of all things teachings on a continual 
>basis, is extremely, extremely difficult. that is apparently what i am supposed
>to start focusing on after these projects are finished; but this is certainly not
>a "requirement" for participation. discussions about the path of the adept are
>fine, but they shouldn't be used in the context of drawing people away from
>the simple importance of serving others to "make the grade."
>
nuff said. today should be another good workday and i've stated my piece -
>there won't be time for me to participate much more in this discussion.
>
>peace be with you -
>
>- david
<blockquote style="border-left: #000000 2px solid; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px">
style="font: 10pt arial">----- original message -----
style="background: #e4e4e4; font: 10pt arial; font-color: black">from: korga@hotmail.com
style="font: 10pt arial">to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com
style="font: 10pt arial">sent: tuesday, february 06, 2001 9:46 am
style="font: 10pt arial">subject: [asc2k] re: the universal spiritual laws of creation & ascension
>
<tt>dennis,

i agree with most of what you've said as it does come close to the heart of things. however i must say that your
interpretation of the jesus quote is a bit off.

--- in asc2k@y..., "dennis" <dholmes@k...> wrote:
> to all seekers & bringers of light:
>
> my hope is to provide some clarity with regard to service to self
> vs others. for what i bring to others, that truly comes from my
> heart will surely come back me. when jesus said do unto others as you
> would have them do unto you, he was teaching cause and effect. what
> you cause another to experience, you will some day experience
> yourself. to determine why something has come into your life you
> simply have to search for the cause of the effect.

to be perfectly honest i find it hard to believe that jesus said this in the active context. it sounds more to me
like a misinterpretation of the disciples of the cannonical gospels. even such the heart of the meaning of this is
not lost though not readily accessible. it's cause and effect but not in the traditional vain. doing unto others as
you would have them do unto you is very much about you being the cause of your death effect. traditionally in
most traditions after death there is the reconning which we commonly refer to as life flashing before our eyes. it
isn't just like a movie though but truly an experience. everything that you have done is then done again but this
time to you. so everything that you have done to others is in turn done to you.

the purpose of this is to determine one's attatchment. whether we are 'good' or 'bad' this is an overwhelming
experience which most people can't handle as they are quite attatched to the experience. this is the point where
the majority of people black-out lose their memory and are later reincarnated to repeat life again. ascension in
essence is not becoming attatched to your life. the easiest way to do this is to discover the nonduality of life
while still alive and begin recognizing it in everything you do (harder than you think). it's actually rather
paradoxical that in order to retain 'yourself' you have to detatch yourself from 'yourself.'

incarnations
korga

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