A few questions about the Lightbody

[Moralman]

dear friends
kind regards
i have a few questions about the lightbody.
here they are for you all.
1. have you seen a lightbody and what is your description?
2. during the ascension, how do you expect your lightbody to take shape?
3. do you truly believe that you will be a lightbody in 2012?
in my view, it seems that the lightbody is the spirit that resides in us and is made of light.
some have stated that in 2012, the human body will implode or explode and our lightbody will show itself.
what do you think about this?
if you could answer the three questions and give me your views i'd appreciate it.
yours thankfully
john

[BenOne]

i have a few questions about the lightbody.
here they are for you all.
1. have you seen a lightbody and what is your description?
2. during the ascension, how do you expect your lightbody to take shape?
3. do you truly believe that you will be a lightbody in 2012?

thanks for brining about this disscussion moralman.

1. i have seen lightbodies. i also believe that light is what our spirits and other unseen entities are made of. i have seen entities in the blue end of the light spectrum. i have also seen through the eyes of my lightbody, seperated from my body body.

2. in an instantaneous ascension situation i picture my earth body fizzling away like like leaves blowing from a tree. leaving me standing still.

3. to answer that truthfully yes, i am always a lightbody:) but, what your asking is do i believe 2012 will be the time i seperate from my earthbody. i see many roads converging in 2012, but not ending. if i lose my matter, that's ok, easy come easy go. i only have 100 +or- years here anyway, if i only get 32 this round, that's cool. that's probably more years than i have spent in other bodies.

i will take a trip to 2012 soon though, i haven't tried to see for myself what's going on out there.

[KassandraLoves]

great questions! :)

i dont think we should always take everything so literally, though.

i liken it to this: we are all made of atoms, right? well, atoms are 99% empty and you cant really measure them. i consider a soul to be the same way. a lightbody isnt describable in our current physics models. and sometimes just saying "i dont know" is completely the thing we need to do.

i dont know at all how my light body is going to "take physical shape." but i interpret that question a little differently. my lightbody aka soul is going to take shape before my eyes means to me that i will realize that i am not identifiable by this bag of meat that i live in. my soul is the important part and it will take shape by me becoming aware of it.

and i honestly dont believe i "will be" a lightbody in 2012 because i already am one. always will be, always have been. i am getting the message that we as a race will be more awake to this fact. what will get us there? not sure, but it seems that there will be an event that will help us see the truth about our eternal being-ness. would you really look at yourself in the mirror at your physical appreance and say "that is me and nothing else describes me better than what i am looking at right now?" i hope not! i sure as heck dont...

who knows what will happen to our sluggish physical manifestations in the future? probably nobody. but i think that its ok to be ok with the fact that you dont know. i havent a clue whats going to take place. but i know that if i keep my vibrations high and continue to give loving energy to myself and everything else, that it will all be easy.

we mustnt concern ourselves so much with physical manifestations i think. its much easier to move on and complete our service to others here when we just accept that we dont understand.

and as ra states, this is not the density for understanding....and im perfectly ok with that i think...

[MarkM]

one thing i read of recently that resonated and became the subject of a meditational muse was the concept that all physical formations pattern themselves after already existing subtle energy forms.

in other words, a tree takes it's form because the energy field that is the essense of the tree gathers physical mass around it in a pattern which mimics the particular energetic form of spiraling torsion energy that is a more primary reality of the tree entity.

when one journeys 'out of body', i imagine, one is really returning to the perhaps more native state of experiencing with the energy body, or light body, or soul - whatever you prefer - without using the 'medium' of the physical body.

if you see your shadow, and are unable to directly perceive your body, you may come to identify with your shadow as being the only experiencable outer aspect of yourself.

when the sun comes up and dissolves your shadow, you may mourn the loss of this shadow, and feel like you can no longer have outer proof of your existance; but may notice in wonder that you still exist, and come to realize that the shadow was but a shell/projection of yourself which only mimicked your true form in an incomplete way.

in all of nature, physical pattern seems to be strictly a secondary aspect of the more complete and primary reality of the energetic formation. here, your light body may bear a relationship to your physical one in much the same way your physical body is related to your shadow - the true beauty, dimensionality and functionality of your body only vaguely hinted at by your shadow.

a spiritual path may be looked at in part as striving to discover the aspects of the natural movement and flow of the light body in its relationship to its light environment, and applying what is learned by patterning one's physical interaction with physical life in as like manner as possible.

if the body can be looked at for our purposes as an 'outer' manifestation of something 'inner' which has a more primary identification with who you are, than 'looking within' may hold great promise for those looking for more meaning to their existence. if the conscious mind can be looked at as a medium for meshing physically with the outer world, then using the mind as a medium for knowing one's inner self may be of limited use. searching outwardly and mentally/intellectually for inner meaning may also be of limited utility.

i would suspect that a combination of both approaches may offer the most fruitful results. the conscious mind does seem to be programmed with an affinity for love, compassion and justice, and so the mind's efforts to find greater meaning may thus be guided to seek within, and cause the person with their natural predisposition towards love to listen for deeper resonances with love.

the greatest learning may thus be seen to involve learning to leave the mind at the door, so to speak, as it has done its part in leading you towards an inner apprehension of that which can only communicate with you at a level deeper than the level of the intellect. a feeling, for example, is not just a thought.

i believe the human intellectual mind is primarily a tool for living here, and cannot define who you are at deeper levels. the mind may be no more than a hint or a shadow of your identity, in much the same way as described earlier. as i write these words, i'm aware that i'm constructing an intellectual edifice, but hopefully, some deeper meaning may diffract itself over to you, something different for each, and hint vaguely at the inner intuitive feelings that i have.

but there is no spiritual truth which lies intrinsically in my words, as none exists in my mind which can be likened to the more primary reality of my soul. like most, i still identify moreso with my outer condition, and the beholding dimly of my soul essence is a fleeting thing after many years and lifetimes of practice. even this cannot be directly communicated, and nothing in the outer world can but point a finger. the truth of this world which is outwardly perceivable consists of never more than a hint or a shadow, or a signpost of what you may find within.

but its possible that a successful meeting of my higher self may result in increasing the fullness of my harmonic relationship with my outer world, lending a greater outer perception of the love which connects all things energetically, and allows for any coherent existance at all. i may come to directly perceive with my outer awareness how inner and primary reality is mirrored here in the outer world, and learn to live with the awareness of love more and more defining my choices - not because its the right thing to do, but because it becomes the only rational response to that gathered from inner perception.

anyway, this post is a cast shadow of my spiritual journey, and i apologize for meditating on the forum!:p mark

[Moralman]

dear friends
kind regards
thank you for your comments.
another thing worth mentioning is the fact that the lightbody has time travel capabilities according to david wilcock and others.
considering that wilcock has said that in non-linear time, with these lightbodies, we can change our past life timelines.
there has never been a comprehensive analysis of the time travel capabilities of the lightbodies, perhaps wilcock could be the first one to do this.
yours thankfully
john

[FIIISH]

1. have you seen a lightbody and what is your description?

i can't say for sure, but i believe that i have. i think the lightbody
can appear exactly the same as the physical body, or completely different.
i think it depends on what is being projected by the individual.

2. during the ascension, how do you expect your lightbody to take shape?

i have a feeling most of us will not be in our physical bodies at the time of ascension, and thus we will already be familiar with our new, far less dense, bodies of light. what we will look like will be dependent on what
we project, and the condition of our spirit. i think it will be far more diifficult
for an individual to project anything other than the true nature of their spiritual condition, and thus deceive others. you will appear as you truly are.

3. do you truly believe that you will be a lightbody in 2012?

whether i am still in a 3d vehicle, or already on the astral plane of
time/space, i am assured that i will intrinsically know where i belong,
and where i am needed.

[KassandraLoves]

oh, by no means did i mean to say that it is not beneficial to consider all of this. i just think we ought not to get too enthralled with trying to explain it to ourselves via 3d mind.

i think its great to ask yourself questions and examine all that is possible and at the same time not get too stuck on physical manifestations.

example? i always see myself as a lightbody. when i meditate, sometimes when i dream, etc etc. i dont know for sure what a "lightbody" might look like or exactly how to just have an obe on command or anything, but i can sure picture it even though i have no clue what it would really look like. hey, maybe im right with my guesses even?

i dunno. all i meant to say was just as "devil's advocate," that if we cant figure something out that rings true with us, sometimes its beneficial to go with your gut or just plain go with the "i dont know" stance. :)

theres nothing wrong with not being too sure of it all. dont get yourself stuck because you dont understand it.

love and light!

[PriestOfLight]

1. have you seen a lightbody and what is your description?

yes, and it was beautiful with curves in all the right places. it made me want to change my gender.

2. during the ascension, how do you expect your lightbody to take shape?

hopefully with little effort. i am not big on going to the gym.

3. do you truly believe that you will be a lightbody in 2012?

i sure hope so, cause i could use to lose a few pounds. that, and my current form didn't come with any junk in my trunk. i could use a little junk in my trunk if you know what i mean. :d

light, love and laughs

priest of light

[BenOne]

our lightbodies are capable of time travel. even our current one's hiding in our skin. everybody time travels all of the time. this happens alot during "daydreaming". most likely in a daydream your soul is traveling to the future or past. "daydreaming" also brings about out of body experiences as the majority of your attention leaves your body with your soul and can go anywhere.

our current lightbodies are as capable as our imagination let's them become. your imagination is light and from it reality is painted.

some people actually spend too much energy focused on time travel. i could spend every moment in the future, trying to make everything work right. i could spend every moment in the past, trying to make it all work right. it's only when we focus on making this moment work right that the future and past issues resonant in tune.

there is nothing wrong with looking way down a road before you choose to follow it. take time to look around though, you might miss a treasure under your feet.

[Bev]

dear cd friends:
i love this thread! over the past few years, since i became aware of the fact that i have a lightbody, i have made some observations.

you know when you're half asleep, and your body gives a little (sometimes big) jerk, and all of a sudden you're wide awake, it's your lightbody jumping back into your physical body. i'm usually asleep when my lightbody has left the building, but there are times when i am awake and aware that it's not "in me." at these times, i don't feel fully conscious, and i feel like i am asleep, but still awake.

i have been told that my lightbody has a name different than my 3d name, and looks totally different than my 3d body. i have a lightbody soul mate that waits for me to fall asleep at night so we can be together. (i get an impatient "tweek" on my nose to remind me to go to bed if i am staying up later than usual!) i have on a couple of occasions visited in meditation/dream state his corporeal body, which is pleiadean. his lightbody and his "real" body also have different names and appearance, although in multidimensional terms, it's all the same "person." the oneness law applies here, there is no separation between our multidimensional aspects of our being.

i am (my lightbody) is a member of an elite healing team that works with archangel raphael. i have lightbody recall of embracing/hugging people to assist them in their healing. i have come to realize that there are dreams which are different than lightbody recall. i imagine that as the veil thins and eventually disappears (perhaps by/around 2012) i will be able to be fully conscious while in my lightbody, which my pleiadean mate is already able to do.

there are still many unanswered questions my conscious mind has about my lightbody and it's nightly adventures, but i have come to accept that it's ok not to know....at least for now!;)

healing love,
bev

[SaraJane]

as always, the more i frequent the board, the more i'm amazed with the discussions and insight. thank you, firstly, to all of the contributors.

1. have you seen a lightbody and what is your description?

not while i'm awake, but in sleep mode. the best i can describe my experience was looking at a star up close and on a few occassions it had a gorgeous blue center.

2. during the ascension, how do you expect your lightbody to take shape?
no clue!!! in the bible, it refers to us being "twinkled." i always liked that, for some reason. i imagine a bright light within me, radiating outward and then, boom... the magic happens.

3. do you truly believe that you will be a lightbody in 2012?

i hope so, and if not in 2012, very soon after. (un)fortunately(?), i have a medical condition that can basically bleep me out in seconds whenever it wants to. i've always felt that was going to have a part to play in 2012. i think it will be part of my transition into my light body.

[hoppppe]

hi. im new here and i have question thats been on my mind for some time and i cant find anything similar posted here. my question is: what happens to those people who are ready to ascend in 2012 but are a) terminally ill? b)have a cip implant of somesort? c) have a bypass inserted? d)breast implants? what im trying to ask is wether these could prevent their bodys from moving into a higher frequency? thank u