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madonnafra
03-07-2002, 06:53 AM
<font face="arial,helvetica"><font size="2" family="sansserif" face="verdana" lang="0">in my opinion, there is a lot more to chemtrails than weather control and there is a lot more to the ascension than cosmic cycles. i believe that there is an immense spiritual awakening all over the planet with the potential for a great deal more. tptb lose the power, whether they be of alien descent or human. they really don't like that part of the scenario and will do anything and everything to keep the sheeple dumbed down and unaware of their god connection. for as long as they can. i believe that there is a distinct component of chemtrails that is having that effect, at least for the time being. my discernment is that god wins and the controllers lose. i plan to help in any way that i can.

blessings,

gayle

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ctx82003
03-07-2002, 09:48 AM
has anyone read "atlantis rising, the struggle of darkness and light"
by patricia cori?

if correct,( and my discernment says it is), the haarp project could
nip the possiblity of ascension in the bud -- and that would be
tragic.

haarp must be stopped.

i would highly recommend you read it as we must all gather together
to peacefully stop haarp in its tracks, and quickly, or there will be
no ascension.

best wishes,
lorin

sirbiotech
03-07-2002, 10:40 AM
i would just say that off the cuff, no haarp could stand up to the
forces of the galaxy itself. how arrogant man is to think he can make
such an impact. we're talking about moving into a more energetic part
of the galaxy/aether, and receving a flood of higher dimensional
energies from the galactic center. haarp ain't got nothing on that in
my opinion. silly men, think they could interfere with the cosmic
cycles! sounds like a sons of belial perspective to me..
just like those wankers in the us government who think that
chemtrails will prevent the changing temperatures. l o l to them all
as far as i'm concerned. haarp and aol and chemtrailitees can all try
as they might, but nothing can stop the shift itself. if im wrong,
i'll be glad to admit it. just show me some proof of how haarp could
achieve such a monumental task as to prevent the shift from occuring.
highly highly unlikely. ok..ill say it..impossible

no fear


peace---

jason



--- in asc2k@y..., "ctx82003" <reikimstr@a...> wrote:
>
> has anyone read "atlantis rising, the struggle of darkness and
light"
> by patricia cori?
>
> if correct,( and my discernment says it is), the haarp project
could
> nip the possiblity of ascension in the bud -- and that would be
> tragic.
>
> haarp must be stopped.
>
> i would highly recommend you read it as we must all gather together
> to peacefully stop haarp in its tracks, and quickly, or there will
be
> no ascension.
>
> best wishes,
> lorin

ctx82003
03-07-2002, 11:48 AM
jason,

the message from "atlantis rising" is "no fear" - "love"

you might read it as your help is needed --- focused love is the
solution to thwarting the "controllers".

it will cost you $17.00 at barnes and nobel before your 10% discount.

all of mankind is again being given the choice of embracing
the "light" or the "darkness" as they were during the ages of
atlantis. choosing to disregard or ignore is a choice.

we cannot make the mistake of thinking that the "chemtrails" and
haarp are innocous occurences in our reality. they are destroying
the ionosphere which protects us from harmful wavelengths and
magnify's the helpful wavelengths.

everyone might also continue to monitor the sun because at it is
making a triple peak in sunspot, storm, activity -- it is reaching
new and higher levels of low frequency radio wave emissions. this
has the controllers very concerned because it could put a real crimp
in their plans for us as it could effectively blind their monitoring
of the earth thru their satellite and computer webs.

they don't recognize the sun as a sentient being just as gaia is.

best wishes,
lorin




--- in asc2k@y..., "sirbiotech" <sirbiotech@y...> wrote:
> i would just say that off the cuff, no haarp could stand up to the
> forces of the galaxy itself. how arrogant man is to think he can
make
> such an impact. we're talking about moving into a more energetic
part
> of the galaxy/aether, and receving a flood of higher dimensional
> energies from the galactic center. haarp ain't got nothing on that
in
> my opinion. silly men, think they could interfere with the cosmic
> cycles! sounds like a sons of belial perspective to me..
> just like those wankers in the us government who think that
> chemtrails will prevent the changing temperatures. l o l to them
all
> as far as i'm concerned. haarp and aol and chemtrailitees can all
try
> as they might, but nothing can stop the shift itself. if im wrong,
> i'll be glad to admit it. just show me some proof of how haarp
could
> achieve such a monumental task as to prevent the shift from
occuring.
> highly highly unlikely. ok..ill say it..impossible
>
> no fear
>
>
> peace---
>
> jason
>
>
>
> --- in asc2k@y..., "ctx82003" <reikimstr@a...> wrote:
> >
> > has anyone read "atlantis rising, the struggle of darkness and
> light"
> > by patricia cori?
> >
> > if correct,( and my discernment says it is), the haarp project
> could
> > nip the possiblity of ascension in the bud -- and that would be
> > tragic.
> >
> > haarp must be stopped.
> >
> > i would highly recommend you read it as we must all gather
together
> > to peacefully stop haarp in its tracks, and quickly, or there
will
> be
> > no ascension.
> >
> > best wishes,
> > lorin

sirbiotech
03-07-2002, 02:00 PM
lorin,

point well taken. i have not read the text you have cited "atlantis
rising" so shouldn't have made assumptions as to it's content. i just
was posting as a gut reaction. i have seen the book before, and will
check it out when i have a chance. i still question how anything we
humans can do can stop the process of ascension. my personal view is
ultimately it has little to do with all these externals, and
primarily depends on one's state of awarenes, consciousness. that is
something that, if you know the mechanics of our energy bodies, and
meditation, one can achieve with or without an event such as
the "shift". guess i'm saying, no matter what these "controllers" do,
it has little to do with the internal experience of source, which is
always present and available. personal, self-initiated ascension is
always here now waiting. that is the one constant that should reduce
concerns over the games these unconscious humans are playing. i feel
that until i have returned to full consciousness, i can't worry too
much about externals anymore, as i have no concept of what i will see
once i pierce the veil of forgetting. in time, im sure all will be
clearer for me.

thanx for the clarification regarding the book tho, i will check it
out next time im in a bookstore.

jason

iluvannabel
03-08-2002, 12:49 PM
lorin,
> if correct,( and my discernment says it is), the haarp project
could nip the possiblity of ascension in the bud -- and that would be
> tragic. haarp must be stopped. or there will be no ascension.

i have not read the book "atlantis rising, the struggle of darkness
and light" but did read some info on haarp-can you elaborate on why
it could thwart ascension? if the counsel of nine would not allow a
major nuclear event why would something like this be allowed??
donna

ctx82003
03-08-2002, 04:31 PM
donna,

simply stated; haarp, has the potential, to shake the external and
internal foundations of this planet when operating at full power and
focused.

the book goes into detail, and beyond that, after reading it, and
researching the science, use your powers of discernement.

everything from the kryon readings presented to the united nations to
this book is sending us the message that it must be stopped.

if you go thru and read all of bearden's research that was given here
thru the link provided a number of post back, you will begin to get
the point of the dangers of this kind of global weather, mind
control, and vibrational manipulation.

the chemtrails that are being sprayed everywhere here in the u.s. are
part of the machinations of the project. it helps them to focus on
their targets.

it amazes me that so few people even look up and notice them.
americans should be beating down congress's door over this, and yet
they continue to be sheeple. it this because of some type of
subliminal mind control being beamed thru haarp and other methods
that is putting most people to sleep?

i guess we simple farmers,( some of who are also scientist), are more
in tune with our environment because we work in it and are in rhythm
with it each day. we are the first to notice when something is
wrong -- and i am telling you, something is wrong! the timing of
weather and seasonal events is completely out of whack.

someone working for kmart or ibm would never even notice but someone
whose livlihoods are dependent on being in harmony with the cycles of
nature immediately notices when those cycles become unbalanced.

does no one wonder what happened to cause the global destruction that
led to the sinking of atlantis -- legend and channel tell us that
they manipulated the powers of creation and shook the foundation of
their own home. gaia responded as it did in self preservation.

apparently this is very important to interdimensional entity's and
off planet entities or they would not be going to this effort to
inform us.

best wishes,
lorin








--- in asc2k@y..., "iluvannabel" <iluvannabel@y...> wrote:
> lorin,
> > if correct,( and my discernment says it is), the haarp project
> could nip the possiblity of ascension in the bud -- and that would
be
> > tragic. haarp must be stopped. or there will be no ascension.
>
> i have not read the book "atlantis rising, the struggle of darkness
> and light" but did read some info on haarp-can you elaborate on
why
> it could thwart ascension? if the counsel of nine would not allow
a
> major nuclear event why would something like this be allowed??
> donna