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wintersun
12-13-2008, 08:42 AM
hi!

i'm just studying "a channeling handbook ", and there is something that doesn't really fit in..

here's a quote from the book.

"for a channel, balance is most important. if you are in a situation where
your mind is not telling you that there is a distinction between right and
wrong you may be in a good environment for your own growth, but you are
not in a good environment for a channel. the more you polarize—that is,
exercise your rational and intuitive discriminative ability in choosing what
you think is right—the more powerful will be the antenna which brings in
your signal. do not baffle yourself by asking what is right for all of
mankind. take it as given that you cannot tell another soul on this planet
what is right for him. then realize that you are responsible for your own
stance. when you decide what is right, your world view will come into
perspective and your discrimination will equal your faith. the great value of
the intellect is that it is a marvelous workhorse and to leave it out of the
equation is as foolish as the opposite choice."

now, we know that we are all one and that everything is one, even what we would call "good" or "bad". if this is all a part of something that is meant to be as it is, how is it that we are suppose to declare something to be wrong or right?

i can say that i find some things "right" and "wrong", but looking at it from a higher perspective, i know that none of it is nor wrong nor right. or lets put it this way, everything is "right".

so, how can it mean that if i'm aware of the fact that there really is no polarization on the highest levels, that i'm not capable of being a good channel? cos according to law of one, there is no good nor bad. these are all distortions.

shouldn't a good channeler be "above" these distortions? the way i understood it in this text, to be a good channeler, you need to accept the distortion of polarity.

or am i getting this wrong?

dino

Firewalker
12-13-2008, 12:00 PM
from the perspective of the one infinite creator everything is infinitely accepted and loved beyond measure etc.

but from the perspective of us down here, we have to take responsibility for our actions, the cause and effect relationship, and the karma therein.

if you didn't understand that statement take a closer look at the law of one books.

Soulman
12-13-2008, 12:29 PM
i can understand where carla is coming from with this statement, but it requires getting into her mind, which i really can't do. that being said, i think you could append her statement, at some point, with the caveat that this doubt is a logical reaction to the complexities and rituals she undergoes to channel.

if you've seen the ritual photos, and read the ritual descriptions, it carries its own doctrine and dogma, with strong religious overtones. so i think almost anyone who would volunteer to be the channel, as carla did, would want to evaluate the necessary ritual. and i think amost anyone would harbor some doubts about the necessity of all that ritual.

but holding doubt would definitely interfere with the channeling process, so it had to be set aside for success, which was decidedly deep interactive trance channel work.

other channels, however, receive information with none of that ritual, myself included. it's just there if you tune into it.

billybobbutterball
12-13-2008, 03:19 PM
hi, dino,
how ya doin?

hey, i believe if you re-read your post several times the light bulb in your brain will turn up a bit brighter. i suspect you misstepped and tripped over your misplaced sense of fair play.

here is a key sentence: "the more you (positively ed) polarize — that is,
exercise your rational and intuitive discriminative ability in choosing what
you think is right—the more powerful will be the antenna which brings in
your signal. do not baffle yourself by asking what is right for all of
mankind."

obviously, the more powerful the antenna the better signal quality gathered and delivered to the receiver...which is the inquiring but passive mind.

seeing there is a battle going on between positive vs negative ets as to which gets through in getting their partisan message across it does make supreme sense for a positive-striving channeler to set conditions to filter the input so only the positive entities are welcomed and allowed a hearing. as hinted at above, uncorrupted channeling is not possible when holding to an ill-advised spirit of democracy. ( hi, demons, how ya doin'? come on down! join our happy crowd!:eek: not!)

the negative spirits are indomitably clever lier's and cheaters -- who have as their conquering battle guideline this little bit of motto nastiness:"by deception thou shalt wage spiritual warfare."

truthfully, the negative manipulator's still manage to dribble through doors even when they are supposedly locked and bolted. carla's ongoing "greetings "by a powerful and very dangerous 5th negative density entity illustrates that...and edgar cayce got nailed by one who's mission was to destroy his reputation and embarrass edgar by serving up major false prophecies.

best approach: just "love 'em" and leave them (i.e., way outside in the cold.:p)

yes, dino, agreed, all is indeed spiritually valid... but as one dc contributer of years ago -- by the name of amilius -- always stressed that the positive path was infinitely more graciously transversed than the negative.:cool:

keep thinking that there was another importatn angle ...but it escapes me...negative influence, no doubt.

highest and best, etc. plenty of love, bbb

Silvanus Sanctus Germanus
12-13-2008, 03:22 PM
hi dino,:)

according to my understanding, recognizing, accepting and implementing ones choice in polarity is a requirement for ascention and also serves as a grounding rod crystalizing intentions in any kind of work. those of ra are very clear on this, the balance has to do with energy levels among our chakras or rays, raising our overall vibration. what carla is talking about is meant to help individuals identify potential channels while having the ability to ignore the bombardement of lower entities attempting to come through, the adept is able to take a step back and pinpoint using discernment with the aid of polarity.;)

about soulman's comment, i would like to point out some of the complexities involved here.:confused: first, the only time, as far as i know, that carla has channeled using deep trance was with the aid of don and jim between 1981 and 1984, this produced the loo material. in deep trance carla exited her body leaving ra in control during sessions. all other channeling before or since was done consciously by deciphering waves or bundles of information kinda like what david does. another thing is that david only channels his higher 6d self while carla channels a number of confederate entities.

these are all different situations requireing a uniquely molded approach. hope that helps, take care...sylvain.....

wintersun
12-14-2008, 05:10 AM
hey there! :)

well, these were the answers i was hoping for! you were all truly helpfull! :d

so, to put it in a nutshell: one has to be aware that both ways (good and bad) are actually "good", but one also needs to be able to see them both clearly, so he can as clearer as possible be able to distinguish one from another, and stick to it.

you agree?

tann3100
12-14-2008, 07:19 AM
hey there! :)

well, these were the answers i was hoping for! you were all truly helpfull! :d

so, to put it in a nutshell: one has to be aware that both ways (good and bad) are actually "good", but one also needs to be able to see them both clearly, so he can as clearer as possible be able to distinguish one from another, and stick to it.

you agree?

yeah the point got across and made its way. boy word travels fast huh all the way around the world and back.

ggw_bach
12-21-2008, 10:40 AM
another thing is that david only channels his higher 6d self while carla channels a number of confederate entities.

these are all different situations requireing a uniquely molded approach

one has to be very careful what sort of influences you open yourself up to. i believe the law of one mentions on several occasions that the orion group (negatively oriented) will look for any opportunity to influence happenings here on earth. they may guise themselves as a positive force (jesus, buddha, etc) but will present a distorted message. the bible (both new and old testaments) was tainted in such ways.

maybe channeling should never be alone? (like lifting weights, use a spotter)

Vermillion
12-24-2008, 12:05 PM
maybe channeling should never be alone? (like lifting weights, use a spotter)

the image i just received from that made my day.

i have only done channeling once, or should say i have been channeled. i have yet to become that balanced again to try again.