Is there birth/death in 4d positive?

[outsidelookingin]

Hello everyone,
I totally new to all this discussion/forum stuff and just recently started getting into the whole Law of One/Divine Cosmos philosophy. But I was basically wondering if if any one had any information about what death was supposed to be like in the new plane that the earth is supposed to be moving into after 2012. Do people have the same life expectancy? Is there even death as we know it? And will there be new life being born into this new plane of existance? Thanks!

Chuck

[yossarian]

There is a lot of excellent information on this available, stuff that rings true and that fits with the Ra Material.

But if we talk about it we will be censored. The moderators only want us to discuss LL-Research-Ra and David-Wilcock-Ra.

Ra does not give these details on 4th density life.

I can point you to some resources if you want, but you'll have to ask me in PM.

[Yusuf]

Greetings to you,
There is some information in the Law of One books.If you look at the Law of One Study Guide as a start, There is some information pertaining to all of the densities, 1 to 8.
Briefly, Ra says that there are no appropriate words to describe the 4th density. However Ra states further that we have a type of bipedal body that is denser in consciousness and more full of life. We don't have a heavy chemical body as now, the chemical elements will not be the same as 3rd density but the appearance is similar. It will still be necessary to eat food but we won't have to work to get it.
There is more. I suggest you continue to look it up yourself. The material is freely available from the Divine Cosmos Site.

Peace and love to you,

Yusuf

[daresh]

The best place to start if you are new to the law of one is to check out the study guide: the layout of the study guide on the divine cosmos site is ****ty. This one is better http://www.spiritofra.com/Ra-section%201.htm

G. LIFESPAN AND LENGTH OF CYCLE

RA: The typical time for one incarnation or "lifetime" in the harmonious 4th density is approximately 90,000 of your years as you measure time. (B2, 102)

QUESTION: How long is a cycle of experience in 4th density in our years?

RA: The cycle lasts approximately 30 million of your years if the entities are not capable of being harvested sooner. (B2, 103) [NOTE: Recall that the cycle for 3rd density is 75 thousand years*.]

[Understanding]

So Some other sources will not get posted here? is there a reason for that sounds kind of religious lol

[MarkM]

As a moderator, I've had occasion to see vast amounts of channeled material that comes knocking at the gates of this forum. I am really amazed at the quantity and diversity of channeled material on the web - and I do mean diverse.

As all viewpoints are unique, and valid, a great variety of subject matter is posted in the forum, and of course, this is a beautiful thing. Within the loose parameters of spiritual becoming and awakening, all personal experience is welcomed for discussion here.

In a group of 2000 plus, moderators are faced with a certain challenge; that is, to gently keep our discussion orbiting somewhat around the core values of the Law of One, and the work of David Wilcock, and that is why this forum is moderated.

I have visited un-moderated 'spiritual' forums, and the contrast is breathtaking - much fear, apprehension of the future, vindictive and profane attacks on other members, endless arguing of differing points of view, and generally a lack of community, politeness, tolerance and mutual respect.

In short, anarchy and confusion. A publically accessed forum which freely hosts an un-moderated clash of spiritual belief, favorite channeled material and religious dogma can quickly come to resemble a microcosm of the warring history of Mankind.

The Law of One is, I consider, a complete, unique, and largely undistorted philosophy of spirituality, centering on the revolutionary (for Western culture in our times) concept of a single, all-encompassing field of conscious, intelligent energy, of which each of us is not just a part, but indeed the literal allness of this 'god' field.

Each individual lifeform is the Creator, experiencing a perceived separateness of being - for reasons ultimately unknown to us at our current state of evolution, but I suspect having to do with the gaining of experience by the Creator.

In the Law of One, the Creator exists in a static state of intelligent infinity, and then moving and potentializing itself into a dynamic state of multiple experience; loving, learning, evolving, wherein the parts gradually regain the awareness of their oneness, and attain, finally, complete identification with what they are, each the creator in full.

We are taught that at the end of our Human experience of third density, we graduate to 4D, (out of the seven of the octave) wherein the human population of a given planet begins the process of achieving the status of 'social memory complex', a state of awareness of the shared identity of us all and the pooling of all of our experiences into a greater being - in which we do not lose our individual identity; rather we contain the sum total of the experience, love and attained ability and wisdom of our native human lifewave within our individual awareness and being.

Now this is an extremely brief synopsis, leaving out many finer points. But implicit in this teaching is the realization that eventually, an evolving 3D human adept becomes less and less emotionally involved with the seeming negative conditions that encumber their 3D world, and with the stilling of the spiritual centers that reflect the issues of the 3D world, may begin to balance and inhabit the higher spiritual centers, and perceive and partake of the greater reality in which the Oneness of all is more apparent.

Here, we know we need not have fear, or emotional investment in the myriad issues of 3D, as unconditional love of all as ourselves begins to take over in our lives. As the Ra say, "Look for love in the moment." As we begin to see the Creator in all beings and conditions, we are the less likely to be embroiled in issues of difference. We see all as the Creator experiencing itself.

The work of David Wilcock, in my view, offers stunning scientific proof of the basic tenets of the Law of One, and never before in 'recent' history has such a comprehensive proof of the divinity of man and indeed all life been assembled.

There is great vested interest amongst the circles of the ruling negative elite in withholding this info from you - and that gives you an idea as to why the moderators limit the huge amounts of fear based material. For fear is the primary tool of those who would continue to enslave, and I sense that the internet at large; indeed mass media at large, is inundated with cunning disinformation, and confusing, complex and fear-inducing material, keeping many in a state of anxiety and perplexing mystery.

This isn't to say that individuals whose posts which are moderated or disallowed are working for the 'dark side', but the bulk of humanity continues to resonate with fear, and this is often reflected in the links provided to the forum. Certainly, not all 'other' channeled material is fear-based, or otherwise unuseful, either - in fact, much is downright enlightening and positive.

But the mods recognize the sheer value and uniqueness of the Law of One, and the voice of David calling out to Humanity - and don't want the focus of these forums to be dimmed by the endless tides of 'other' disparate and alternate philosophies, which proliferate on the net. We absolutely do not judge other works as to their absolute merit, indeed everything out there is just tailor-made for the needs of someone, somewhere.

Neither are the mods in a position to judge the relative merits of everything out there, in terms of relevance to the focus of Divine Cosmos. For this reason, channeled material is considered off-topic for these forums; an imperfect solution which will displease some.;)

hope you understand, Mark

[Rhonda]

Wow, beautiful, from the depths of the heart with much love. Thank you and to all others on this amazing path of one.


Each individual lifeform is the Creator, experiencing a perceived separateness of being - for reasons ultimately unknown to us at our current state of evolution, but I suspect having to do with the gaining of experience by the Creator.

In the Law of One, the Creator exists in a static state of intelligent infinity, and then moving and potentializing itself into a dynamic state of multiple experience; loving, learning, evolving, wherein the parts gradually regain the awareness of their oneness, and attain, finally, complete identification with what they are, each the creator in full.

a state of awareness of the shared identity of us all and the pooling of all of our experiences into a greater being - in which we do not lose our individual identity; rather we contain the sum total of the experience, love and attained ability and wisdom of our native human lifewave within our individual awareness and being.

the Oneness of all is more apparent.

As the Ra say, "Look for love in the moment." As we begin to see the Creator in all beings and conditions, we are the less likely to be embroiled in issues of difference. We see all as the Creator experiencing itself.

[MarkM]

Sometimes, I wonder if the Creator, upon regaining the stuff of 8th density, doesn't find the 8th almost as if it were the 1st, learning the ultimate art of dissemination into infinite division, in an unimaginable riot of 100%selflessness/selfishness...starting again. I suspect that the smearing of the creator into infinite parts is the greatest joy imaginable, in our cosmos.

[soup]

I wonder if the life span is somehow scaled to the variety of experience afforded to the lifeform, though difficult to generalize. Somewhere I learned that teachers typically live longer than those of other professions and that some people attribute this to the idea that teachers live a more fullfilled life in some way or another.


soup

[soup]

...Is there even death as we know it?...

How well do people consciously "know" death - or is it more "the fear of death" that people better know?


soup

[Just Be]

Can someone please explain to me if birth exist in 4d positive?

I have a 3 month old baby, and my husband wants a second child. He doesnt believe in 2012 and doesnt want to hear anything in regards to it. So I tell him the reason why I hesitate to give birth to second child within the next 4 years is b/c of the intensity and challenges I'm facing with our current baby (who may be a crystal child due to a number of reasons...one of which is his extreme sensitivity to food, environment, etc). Plus I suffer from migraines once a month - a real struggle for me to take care of our baby during those days.

But the whole truth is...if it ascension wasnt happening so soon, i am willing to sacrifice myself to give him a second child. I was just curious if I can give birth AFTER 2012. Or will we all just be souls (as opposed to human adults/child)?

[FIIISH]

Can someone please explain to me if birth exist in 4d positive?

My impression is that reproduction will not be necessary in 4d.
My guess, is that includes all the 'mechanics' that go along
with 3d conception and birth.

Is there a chance that entities will be able to shift to 4d after the
majority on a planet has already done so? I would think
there is a chance- and there probably is a process for that
which is equitable to birth.

It sounds to me like you already know what your own intuition
is telling you- that it may not be the best decision for you
to have another child right now.

However, that may change, and the situation may be
different for another person. Go with your intuition.

[Earthcat]

The sources say that death is no more traumatic that taking off your clothes. Four density is physical, but with knowing that all is one. It is more of a choice when one decides to change physical bodies, most likely to again further spiritial growth.

[transiten]

Hello Just Be

I get an uneasy feeling when you say you're going to "sacrifice" yourself to "give" him another child. That sounds selfdestructive to me and not the best way to welcome a person to this world by playing a victim. And also, you are not the one "giving" him the child, it's a cooperation and children are not to be given away, they are in their own right.

Gosh, this was a strong reaction from my side and of course tells me something about myself. I don't have any children and i was not treated well as a child. The risk is you will transmit the feeling to your child that you sacrificed youself for her/his sake and that will create feelings of guilt, also with your husband.

Also the child you already have needs your full attention and care. So I think the most loving thing you could do is to not give birth to another child and that doesn't involve the 2012 dilemma at all.

Excuse my somewhat rude tone here but with loving intention

Liliane the transit

[litllady]

I also got an uneasy feeling that you might not be wanting a baby for the right reasons and that child can carry that karmic vibration. I do understand what you are saying though...most of us here are 'over pleasers'...we love to please others by using this life to do just that (such as giving the man you love a child).

I personally dont make any decisions according to the 2012 date. Im more aware in my being in the now, I really try to live just as I would without the whole 'date' thing making my decisions. I feel there are many lights wishing to be here right now and come for this experience in this age. The more pure your vibration is for doing something for the humble purpose, the more pure environmental energy you would be offering a child.

Just thoughts and best wishes,
Lynette

[TMS]

Just Be:
I agree with Transiten, if having a child is veiwed as a sacrifice then you definitely have some 3D life lessons to learn still. After I had my 2 children at one point i thought i was pregnant again. I had just begun opening up more spiritually but i did think at the time it would be tough having another child. I had a very strange experience that lasted about a week or so. While i thought i was pregnant i truely felt the presence of the spirit of a baby boy. I had visualizations of what he would look like as a child. The more i focesed on this the more accepting i became of having another dhild. It turned out I did not get pregnant but I believe to this day that a child was considering me/us as parents but that our higher selves decided it would not be in our best interest at that time. My advice to you is when you are facing major life decisions trust your higher self - ask for guidance and it will be given. For now try to learn and understand fully what Law of One service is all about. Living in the spirit of LOO service is not a sacrifice it is a joy. I believe that with the coming 2012 we still have to live our current lives and continue with our current responsibilities as usual whether it is raising a family, finishing school working our jobs etc. We need to use our time wisely not base decisions on the thought that the world is going to end. The best way to handle those who do not believe in it is not to judge them or try to convince them but demonstrate LOO in action in your own life. I also think that if you make it to 4D your loved ones will be there with you otherwise you have judged them as unworthy thereby showing you didn't get what LOO was all about.

And back to the orginal subject - I personally believe that in 4D birth and death will not be the same as it is here in 3D since it is related to our current physical bodies. But i do think there will be something like it due to the eventual graduation to 5D. The LOO states that within your current density you have awareness of those below but not above. I think of physical death as graduation. Let's not have to go back and repeat school again.

Keep the love flowing.
T.

[Just Be]

Hi All,

Thank you for all your honesty. After thinking over what you all have written, I have come to realize the source of my problem.

I do want to clarify that it is my health condition (and no other reason than this) that makes me doubt my ability to care for a 2nd child the way I would like to. I get migraines from the slightest imbalances (environmental, food consumption, weather, etc). It is on these days that I dread b/c I am not physically capable of taking care of our baby. I tried discussing this with my husband before. He replied with "You dont have enough hardship in your life. You just need to toughen up like everyone else and be more selfless." And for the longest time, I believed him.

But now I have come to realize that I am NOT like everyone else and I shouldnt be compared to them for this reason. Nor should I feel guilty or 'weak' b/c of my health condition. Afterall, I am doing all I can possibly do at the moment to be the healthiest that I am capable of being.

I also want to point out that I believe my baby has a divine purpose for my husband and I. He is currently healthy and happy. I believe deep down inside it is b/c I subscribe to the "attachment parenting" method. Otherwise, he could easily be 'colicky' due to all of his sensitivities. It's a lot of work on my end, and I shouldnt care if my husband can see this or not.

Anyways, what I see now is that...I need to value myself more and not rely on others to tell me what should be "normal".

[transiten]

Hello Just Be

What a wonderful insight:) Since we're "All One" everything you do to yourself you do to others...slightly resembles something i heard before;)

Liliane the transit

[Senta Ra]

Hi Just be:)

Yes you are right. It is our life and should not be compared with others since we all stem from different upbringing and experiences. If we have similarities then that is another thing.

What you have now is your life with your husband and child. Our life with our family is not just to please one of them but both as a couple. There is give and take all the way. This is the balance that can be aimed at rather than thinking what will happen few years from now. How we spend our life now is the key to the future. So make the most of the present life now and Just be:)

Take care
Senta Ra

( I like your name since it happens to be the title to one of my Youtube films:)

[Just Be]

Our life with our family is not just to please one of them but both as a couple. There is give and take all the way. This is the balance that can be aimed at rather than thinking what will happen few years from now. How we spend our life now is the key to the future.

Yes, I am learning this. Thank you.

I had a wonderful dream last night. I was looking around at my apartment and felt so at peace. It looked different from how my apt is right now, but I knew it was the same apt (my current apt is on the first floor of a 100 year old building with lots of charm, but with its fair shares of problems). My apt in my dream was very zen-like and it was so beautiful with large open windows. I went to take a look outside, and realized that I was on one of the upper floor of a high rise and below me was the traffic of a bustling city. I thought to myself at that moment in my dream, "I dont know why I never saw how beautiful this apt is. I can live here forever."

The thing is, ever since I moved into my real-life 100 year old apt..I've been a little bitter about how deceptive "charm" can be and how everything is falling apart (two room fan stop working, microwave fan acts up, toilet handle fell off one day, shower glass door hardware fell off another day...all in a matter of a few weeks). And I have been looking forward to the day I move out of the apt.

Then today, I was reading about dw's dream analysis. I realized that my dream is about my higher consciousness (being on an upper floor of a high rise) and the clarity of my thought process (indoor, zen-like environment). Thus leading me to believe that my higher self is telling me I am on the right track and that our "reality" changes with our attitude/perception as oppose to the circumstances (my current apt vs my dream apt was really the same apt).

And what is more beautiful about all of this happening at this moment is that...I've been feeling blue (almost to the point of getting physically sick) b/c my baby's acid reflux has seem to have gotten worse. Both he and I have been sleep deprived for weeks now, and I keep having to remind myself that God wont give me more than I can handle. Today, it was proven true once again.

Thanks for the all the wonderful reminders. :)

[Just Be]

Senta Ra,

I forgot to mention in my previous post - my real name is really 'Be' (not shorten or abbreviated for anything either). My screen name is a play on my real name...and it just happens to also be a saying that I need to remind myself constantly - just be.

[moderator reminds us all of the subject of this thread, and to please try to stay on topic. ;)]

[mmariebored]

I'm sure this was probably answered on here already but I can't find it - all this talk of "ascension", 2012, "Harvest" and "last days", I can't help but draw the picture of the Heaven's Gate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven's_Gate_(cult)) to mind. I certainly hope that the goal of this Law Of One group is to create a better life for people born and living on earth as opposed to focusing mainly on a higher dimention. Because that's what I gathered so far from what I've read. Hopefully I'm wrong.

[kensanwa]

Welcome mmariebored.

Well, while there are many of threads dedicated to higher dimension related topics, there are still plenty that serve to facilitate acquired knowledge, thoughts, or opinions regarding peoples lives and daily experiences here on Earth. A large part of the reason why there is so much interest in higher dimensions is probably due to the fact that many here believe (or are at least curious about the proposition) that the Earth is about to become one (enter one) in a very very short period of time. I guess it's hard not to pay attention to the curve in the road once you know (or think) its coming.

As for this place being akin to Heaven's Gate, I can honestly say that I wont be drinking the "special kool-aid" should it be offered. ;)
To my knowledge, there has only been one suicide that was related to the Law of One, and his case was a pretty unique one. Rather than hoping that this group is dedicated to improving life on the plant or fearing that it may be the reincarnation of a suicide cult, perhaps it would serve you better to reflect and focus on what initially attracted you here.

Be well,
Kensanwa

[KassandraLoves]

I'm sure this was probably answered on here already but I can't find it - all this talk of "ascension", 2012, "Harvest" and "last days", I can't help but draw the picture of the Heaven's Gate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven's_Gate_(cult)) to mind. I certainly hope that the goal of this Law Of One group is to create a better life for people born and living on earth as opposed to focusing mainly on a higher dimention. Because that's what I gathered so far from what I've read. Hopefully I'm wrong.

I believe that the only reason the "higher realms" are even being discussed is because we are in a changing time. Maybe even to help us understand ourselves a bit. But in no way is the Law of One similar to "heaven's gate" which was run by a criminal with guns. This is the exact polar opposite of something like that. Its just easy to talk about the new stuff (that science and David along with countless other studies and peoples have proven) thats coming down the pipeline.

Among other things, the Law of one is only intended for YOU to do with it what you wish. Most of us here seem to want to enrich our lives and live them more fully and more positively. And also to bring joy and peace to this place and to those we interact with. The law of one is just a great way to do that. Its one entity's interpretation of the ways of the universe, and that viewpoint is an amazing one. It also helps us understand who we are a bit better thus making the previous things much easier to execute within our incarnation here.

I feel no corellation to any cult of any kind. In my opinion, your hopes are correct! :)

Love to all!

[mmariebored]

Thank you both for replying.
The reason I'm asking is because I'm new to this study and I enjoy learning about the many aspects of the many different beliefs in the world. This new one seems to have picked up some bad qualities that have driven other groups over the edge, so to speak. Focusing too much on other dimensions, I've gathered in my observations, makes life here on earth seem much less valuable and can sometimes lead people into craving a shortcut to that mystery world they long to be in. I read a LOT of the Law of One (http://deoxy.org/wiki/The_Law_Of_One) and the main focus seems to be connecting to there and not here.
It's the same with many religions, and extremists can be bred in even the most peaceful religions.

[moderator: hopefully members will clarify the LoO material for Marie and she will read what we study]

[kensanwa]

Thank you both for replying.
The reason I'm asking is because I'm new to this study and I enjoy learning about the many aspects of the many different beliefs in the world. This new one seems to have picked up some bad qualities that have driven other groups over the edge, so to speak. Focusing too much on other dimensions, I've gathered in my observations, makes life here on earth seem much less valuable and can sometimes lead people into craving a shortcut to that mystery world they long to be in. I read a LOT of the Law of One (http://deoxy.org/wiki/The_Law_Of_One) and the main focus seems to be connecting to there and not here.
It's the same with many religions, and extremists can be bred in even the most peaceful religions.



Ra: I am Ra. The Law of One, though beyond the limitation of name, as
you call vibratory sound complexes, may be approximated by stating that all
things are one, that there is no polarity, no right or wrong, no disharmony,
but only identity. All is one, and that one is love/light, light/love, the
infinite Creator.

Well, I would say that the main focus of the Law of One would be the oneness of all things, just as this statement implies. That's what I caught from reading it anyway. Perhaps your past (conditioning) mixed with your personailty has formed a bias towards noticing the information regarding higher dimensions apart from the reason why those things were mentioned in the first place. In my opinion, all of the information contained in the Law of One is aimed at aiding the seeker in realizing Oneness with all. This information can be given in one very simple statement "All is One", but is not understood in this form. An attempt to facilitate understanding is made by breaking it down into different areas and subjects of relavence and interest (determined by the questioner in the books), which occasionally entertained the topic of higher dimensions.

The aim is not to "connect to there and not here" in the sense of going from 3rd density to a higher density. That would be like being in 3rd grade and aiming to be in the 7th grade or so. The focus is not on attaining a higher grade, so to speak, but rather on attaining the realization and awareness that those of the higher grade level have attained. Because most people do not go from 3rd grade to graduation, there are other levels in between that better assist you in what you are studying at a particular time. If you define here as "not having a realization of the oneness of all things" and there as "having a realization of the oneness of all things" then you could speak of the goal in terms of connecting to there and not here, but only if you start by first realizing and accepting that you are here.

Your statement has piqued my curiousity. I guess I always assumed that anyone who could read and even slightly understand more than a page of the Law of One viewed the central theme of it to be the oneness of all things. I guess my assumption was a little off. Since we have strayed quite a bit from the topic of birth and death in fourth density, I am going to start a new thread as to gather other peoples opinions on what they think the Law of One is all about. I look forward to hearing your opinion in more depth.

Be Well,
Kensanwa

[KassandraLoves]

The aim is not to "connect to there and not here" in the sense of going from 3rd density to a higher density. That would be like being in 3rd grade and aiming to be in the 7th grade or so. The focus is not on attaining a higher grade, so to speak, but rather on attaining the realization and awareness that those of the higher grade level have attained. Because most people do not go from 3rd grade to graduation, there are other levels in between that better assist you in what you are studying at a particular time. If you define here as "not having a realization of the oneness of all things" and there as "having a realization of the oneness of all things" then you could speak of the goal in terms of connecting to there and not here, but only if you start by first realizing and accepting that you are here.


Be Well,
Kensanwa

I agree with this. We talk of other dimensions so that we can better understand where we are

[MarkM]

Thank you both for replying.
The reason I'm asking is because I'm new to this study and I enjoy learning about the many aspects of the many different beliefs in the world. This new one seems to have picked up some bad qualities that have driven other groups over the edge, so to speak. Focusing too much on other dimensions, I've gathered in my observations, makes life here on earth seem much less valuable and can sometimes lead people into craving a shortcut to that mystery world they long to be in. I read a LOT of the Law of One and the main focus seems to be connecting to there and not here.
It's the same with many religions, and extremists can be bred in even the most peaceful religions.

[moderator: hopefully members will clarify the LoO material for Marie and she will read what we study]

A quick thought - the Law of One is a huge body of material, and seems to me to speak primarily to us here in 3D; and concerns itself with aiding mankind through addressing those who are here to help humanity work through it's very 3D issues. The Ra state clearly that their info is not for everyone, and any attempt to 'push' this info on those not receptive is ill advised.

Here it's conceivable that the site you have been exposed to betrays the bias of the webmaster inasfar as fascination with inter-density issues - as one who has been a student of the LoO, I find that the major emphasis is on issues of us mere mortals trying to make sense of what we are dealing with in the here and now.

This body of work is definitely not meant to be spread far and wide - it only speaks to those who are ready for its message - and here we have a community of souls who wish to share our common resonance with this message.

David Wilcock is a pioneer in the subject of bringing out the concept of consciousness being the primary consideration in terms of all of existance. To me, it all boils down to one question - is consciousness a result of the universe, or is the universe a result of consciousness?

Deep, eh?:D If there really is one consciousness from which all springs, what are the scientific, philosophical and ethical implications?

The Ra are speaking to this delicate issue, and an in depth study reveals a painstaking and careful means of speaking to this universal truth without compromising our free will choice to experience in utter mystery.

One of the beautiful (and rare, for me) things about the Law of One is that all the paths of choice of everybody here is perfectly acceptable, as we all have the means to experience everything conceivable; and this is the great glory of existance. This is a reason for infinite diversification. Mark

[mmariebored]

Well, I would say that the main focus of the Law of One would be the oneness of all things, just as this statement implies. That's what I caught from reading it anyway. Perhaps your past (conditioning) mixed with your personailty has formed a bias towards noticing the information regarding higher dimensions apart from the reason why those things were mentioned in the first place...
Your statement has piqued my curiousity. I guess I always assumed that anyone who could read and even slightly understand more than a page of the Law of One viewed the central theme of it to be the oneness of all things. I guess my assumption was a little off.
Perhaps this may have been true years ago, but I've matured quite a bit in my reasoning and understanding.

Since there are so many levels and so many entities and rules to these levels, throwing out a base line like "to be the oneness of all things" is beyond vague. But to say that a teaching like the Law of One keeps your head off of earth and in the clouds is a little closer to correct, considering the percentage of data in the readings about other planets, dimentions and entities.


The aim is not to "connect to there and not here" in the sense of going from 3rd density to a higher density. That would be like being in 3rd grade and aiming to be in the 7th grade or so. The focus is not on attaining a higher grade, so to speak, but rather on attaining the realization and awareness that those of the higher grade level have attained.
1)According to the Ra sessions, one can already be a higher level but have given up their remembrance to help the people on earth. "Awakening" would essentially be similar to jumping grades, as you mentioned.
2)From reading the Ra sessions, apparently, there are entities who go backwards in this goal, so to speak, and try to pull others back as well, for domination purposes. The group I spoke of may have been a victim of something like this occurence. I could be wrong. But if I were a devout follower of these sessions, I'd say it looks as though this was almost placed there as an explaination.

source (http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=16&sc=0&ss=0)
~~~~quote~~~~
Questioner: This is a profound revelation, I believe, in the Law of Free Will. Thank you.

This is a minor question further to make an example of this principle, but if the Confederation landed on Earth, they would be taken as gods, breaking the Law of Free Will and thus reducing their polarization of service to all. I assume that the same thing would happen if the Orion group landed. How would this affect their polarization of service to self if they were able to land and became known as gods?

Ra: I am Ra. In the event of mass landing of the Orion group, the effect of polarization would be strongly toward an increase in the service to self, precisely the opposite of the former opportunity which you mentioned.

Questioner: If the Orion group was able to land, would this increase their polarization? What I am trying to get at is, is it better for them to work behind the scenes to get recruits, shall we say, from our planet, the person from our planet going strictly on his own using free will, or is it just as good for the Orion group to land on our planet and demonstrate remarkable powers and get people like that?

Ra: I am Ra. This first instance is, in the long run, shall we put it, more salubrious for the Orion group in that it does not infringe upon the Law of One by landing and, thus, does its work through those of this planet. In the second circumstance, a mass landing would create a loss of polarization due to the infringement upon the free will of the planet. However, it would be a gamble. If the planet were then conquered and became part of the Empire, the free will would then be re-established. This is restrained in action due to the desire of the Orion group to progress towards the One Creator. This desire to progress inhibits the group from breaking the Law of Confusion.

Questioner: You mentioned the word “Empire” in relation to the Orion group. I have thought for some time that the movie Star Wars was somehow an allegory for what is actually happening. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct in the same way that a simple children’s story is an allegory for physical/philosophical/social complex distortion/understanding.
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It would appear the "Heaven's Gate" group was being manipulated by this evil group or one like it.
This doesn't really have a lot to do with death in 4d positive, but clearly somewhere along the path to enlightenment, this suicide group was severely misled in their "understanding".
It serves as a warning, if nothing else.