4d + or 4d - earth

[Aghsan Branch]

how about -,+ 4d entities living on the same planet, does that happen? or is it that the majority takes the planet and the minority gets kicked off to some other -4d rock? are we currently in a contest to decide if earth becomes - or + 4d???

in goodness graciouss
agh

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

hello agh,:)

no, as i understand it, this 3rd density is where the meddling of the two creates an opportunity to increase the harvest on both side, this is the contest you speak of. as far as 4d the two potentials are split and given their own plane of existance which continues through 5d until 6d where the negs get a chance to switch to pos and start contemplating a oneness that includes both polarities.

to get a little more "technical" the neg 6d entity is intrusted with time travel as a higher self and returns to 3d to make the switch, adding more excitement to the momentum as the positive love/light increases it's intensity. very excitng times indeed!!!:d..............sylvain.............

[darth_rothscum]

how about -,+ 4d entities living on the same planet, does that happen? or is it that the majority takes the planet and the minority gets kicked off to some other -4d rock? are we currently in a contest to decide if earth becomes - or + 4d???

in goodness graciouss
agh

hey agh,

4+ and 4- living on the same planet is usually not possilbe. this will not happen to the earth (she/it is almost complete in her transformation to 4+). the 4d- folks go somewhere else--that planet itself will be negative (i.e. baron rothschild might find himself somewhere in orion). the people here on earth at this time who cannot decide whether they want to be + or - will also go to another planet which is itself 3d and is supporting 3d life (those people will remain 3d).

so, no there's no contest--the earth has decided it will be 4+, and so it is; and you too can decide where you would like to be!

[mellisamouse]

oh my! thank goodness. this clears up my dilema i just posted about on another thread. i really want to help heal this beautiful planet, but was wanting to get outta here because it is getting so crazy. i have to keep up the hope that she wants us here healing her, as much as we want to help her.

i guess i just need patience. i want more than ever to go and start loving, healing and rejeuvanating the land, but feel almost in "stuck and waiting" mode now, as i feel there is not too much i can do besides wait at this point.

i am already statring to mourne the people who may be going to negative, or staying in 3d as i have dedicated so much to trying to help them.....

even though it will be bliss to be rid of the duality, my heart still wishes i could have helped more, but because of free will, all i could do was to put it out there....like a banquet. i guess it is up to them if or what they want to eat from it.

i still feel sad though, as a lot are going in seperate ways...wish i could help just a bit more somehow though as we wait. :(

[Aghsan Branch]

no, as i understand it, this 3rd density is where the meddling of the two creates an opportunity to increase the harvest on both sides, this is the contest you speak of.

thanks, silvanus, i really like this explanation. you seem to be strong in your understanding of loo. i hadn't conceptualized the dual nature of the two 3d perspectives + and - as an actual propulsion of evolution into 4d. from there i guess the plot thicken, like a good sauce :p


to get a little more "technical" the neg 6d entity is intrusted with time travel as a higher self and returns to 3d to make the switch, adding more excitement to the momentum as the positive love/light increases it's intensity. very excitng times indeed!!!..............sylvain.............

ok, so a neg6d wouldn't really influence its own 3d self in a negative way though, right, like what would really be the point, its already negative. the point i see is for a 6d to evolve to a 7d only by working on its self which made that original decision to go the negative route back in 3d.

this stuff is so cool! so logical yet so utterly fascinating it must be real, explains so much, so perfectly...


hey agh,

4+ and 4- living on the same planet is usually not possilbe. this will not happen to the earth (she/it is almost complete in her transformation to 4+). the 4d- folks go somewhere else--that planet itself will be negative (i.e. baron rothschild might find himself somewhere in orion). the people here on earth at this time who cannot decide whether they want to be + or - will also go to another planet which is itself 3d and is supporting 3d life (those people will remain 3d).

hey darth. that makes some sense with me. i get confused when people talk about alternative copies of the earth being made for different types of humans negative or positive 3d or 4d, in time/space or space/time etc... i had a feeling its more straightforward like you say. maybe there's just many layers to it [agh shrugs].


i still feel sad though, as a lot are going in seperate ways...wish i could help just a bit more somehow though as we wait.

hi melissamouse. i do believe that we all help more people, to such an extent, that we may not know or truely understand....maybe ever or until we reach a higher vibration...so i don't despair for that reason....and i stopped mourning those who i thought we lost because i believe now that we all will experience the catalysts we need to get to a place where we can experience and live in pure light/love....spiritual growth must happen a little at a time...just like physical growth....right, imagine that :eek:...mho, hope it helps
agh

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so, no there's no contest--the earth has decided it will be 4+, and so it is; and you too can decide where you would like to be!

yes darth, thank you! i'm so tired of hearing about the rockefellars, the rothschilds, the rumsfelds and cheneys....ad nauseum....i think i havean idea where i'm going!

[MarkM]

ok, so a neg6d wouldn't really influence its own 3d self in a negative way though, right, like what would really be the point, its already negative. the point i see is for a 6d to evolve to a 7d only by working on its self which made that original decision to go the negative route back in 3d.

i would imagine that a 5d going to 6d neg may have the potential to influence one whom has polarized strongly negative in 3d, just as one who has made the choice positive may cultivate the connection and integration with his future result (6d) of having polarized positive/love/wisdom. mark

[Enivid]

to get a little more "technical" the neg 6d entity is intrusted with time travel as a higher self and returns to 3d to make the switch, adding more excitement to the momentum as the positive love/light increases it's intensity. very excitng times indeed!!!..............sylvain.............

wow, that's exactly my view of this whole acension. a view that i had in my mind's eye, i couldn't really express it, but you did it perfectly! now i can explain what i see :)

we live in the moment of change.


so, no there's no contest--the earth has decided it will be 4+, and so it is; and you too can decide where you would like to be!

you could time travel to negative earths though. i've read a book that was a "futurevision" story. it told that movies would be a holograph, and that you even could particiapte in the movies. and that it wasn't so many people that watched horror movies because of the realism :).

but the moment will be a positive 4d+ earth.

[dennis]

hi, is it possible to build a stargate for physical time travel and if so how do you do it?kind regards. dennis

[Detlef]

of cause there is no such thing as a contest, perhaps in the human mind.
the soul will decide whether to move into 4d or stay somewhere else in 3d, or are ready for 5d (there are some )
and if my informantion is correct ,this desition has been made by all souls some time last year.

add: it is my understanding, no one can move into 6d on a negative platform.
(if we understand that sts = negative)

regards detlef

[Berry Chastain]

i have observed in this thread a discussion of whether or not the 6 d higher self can influence the negative 3rd d self to switch polarity. if you will study the loo you will discover that when the negatively polarized entity reaches 6th d it has no choice but to switch to positive polarization. it is at that point that it realizes that the one infinite creator is only love and light and that service to others is the "way to go". ra indicates that it is quite difficult for a 3d negative entity to morph into a 3d positive.

one must remember that within the law of one, all is part of the one, negative and postive polarity. the one infinite creator experiences each individualized part of itself as an experience of that which it is. the first distortion of the law is free will, or the law of confusion, so each entity chooses its pathway to the one which will in each case end up at 6d becoming an instrument of love and light and the positive polarity if not much sooner.

[twva]

ra indicates that it is quite difficult for a 3d negative entity to morph into a 3d positive.

as i understand it, that is incorrect. see this quote from session 19:
questioner: i assume that an entity on either path can decide to change paths at any time and possibly retrace steps, the path changing being more difficult the farther along the path the change is made. is this correct?

ra: i am ra. this is incorrect. the further an entity has, what you would call, polarized, the more easily this entity may change polarity, for the more power and awareness the entity will have.

those truly helpless are those who have not consciously chosen but who repeat patterns without knowledge of the repetition or the meaning of the pattern.