Veracity of the Law Of One

[darth_rothscum]

quick question: if don elkins committed suicide (most certainly the influence of a negative entity), how do we know carla channeled ra every time? is it possible that some portion of the "ra material" could be wrong or purposefully misleading because a positive entity like ra did not come through one time (or a few times)?

and if so, is it best to not attempt to channel anything yourself? it sounds like the universe is a dangerous place if these entities come find you if you're "putting yourself out there." and if this is true, is it best to just experience this 3d dimension with all of it's "flaws" and not try to become an edgar cayce or david wilcock or someone else of that calibre?

[KassandraLoves]

quick question: if don elkins committed suicide (most certainly the influence of a negative entity), how do we know carla channeled ra every time? is it possible that some portion of the "ra material" could be wrong or purposefully misleading because a positive entity like ra did not come through one time (or a few times)?

and if so, is it best to not attempt to channel anything yourself? it sounds like the universe is a dangerous place if these entities come find you if you're "putting yourself out there." and if this is true, is it best to just experience this 3d dimension with all of it's "flaws" and not try to become an edgar cayce or david wilcock or someone else of that calibre?

i dont feel that due to channeling don committed suicide. this world is hard to deal with for a lot of us! even the brightest and most loving!

i know of many that were amazing people full of compassion that were driven to such an act by the craziness of this world alone. its tough. thats why our planet is so well known i think...this place will do things to you that you would never think possible when deciding to incarnate here.

i think mr. elkins was probably plagued with what a lot of good folks here are plagued with. it doesnt mean he was a bad guy or that we should mistrust his life's gifts to us.

if my brother killed himself tomorrow, i would not forsake the good things he gave me throughout my life, even if his life ended unfortunately. suicide is such a different topic for everyone that has ever endured its wake or even endured the act itself i imagine. i bet every single person that commits this act has varying motivations, but for us to say that person was negative or did negative things to mislead people is a generality that i wont take part of.

even if the law of one materials were based on a completely fictional story anyway, what we are turning it into via choice is something beautiful and loving. and i dont care if a gift comes with "satan wrapping paper" its still a gift and we can do with it what suits us, right?

thanks! light and love to you and to the being we knew as don elkins, wherever he may be...

[darth_rothscum]

i think i have one possible answer to the question(s) i posted above: channel yourself (your higher self) instead of calling out to another entity. this is not my idea, but after starting this thread i "randomly" and "spontaneously" found a youtube video of another channeler who stated that he simply channels himself and does not seek "an other."

again, i don't think i'm allowed to post names here on the mb, but maybe the mods will allow me to write that the channeler who seeks his higherself is not unlike the 16th american president and that he looks exactly like jesus!!!!!!!!!!! lol :d

enjoy; i hope this opens up yet another avenue to bring more peace/silence (shanti) in your life. :)

[checkmate]

i think trying to channel anyone or anything is very dangerous. some people have this natural ability and i see nothing wrong with opening yourself up to it. however, when you seek be careful because you never know what you might get.

[btsumm]

i think i have one possible answer to the question(s) i posted above: channel yourself (your higher self) instead of calling out to another entity. this is not my idea, but after starting this thread i "randomly" and "spontaneously" found a youtube video of another channeler who stated that he simply channels himself and does not seek "an other."

again, i don't think i'm allowed to post names here on the mb, but maybe the mods will allow me to write that the channeler who seeks his higherself is not unlike the 16th american president and that he looks exactly like jesus!!!!!!!!!!! lol :d

enjoy; i hope this opens up yet another avenue to bring more peace/silence (shanti) in your life. :)

bingo!

thank you for saying this...

love,
brian

know yourself! trust yourself to be good! face your dark side and master it...and love it...so that it will never leave you.

peace!

[darth_rothscum]

i dont feel that due to channeling don committed suicide. this world is hard to deal with for a lot of us! even the brightest and most loving!

i know of many that were amazing people full of compassion that were driven to such an act by the craziness of this world alone. its tough. thats why our planet is so well known i think...this place will do things to you that you would never think possible when deciding to incarnate here.

yes, it's absolutely true: this planet is not for the weak. i saw some videos on youtube of a presentation made by (?) ... (forgot the guy's name) ... a gentleman who was relating his experience and relationsip with billy meier (the swiss man who was supposedly contacted by a certain group of ets living somewhere in the pleadies star cluster). i have no idea if any of this is true, but mr. meier's contact (apparently a beautiful woman named semjase) even took him to her home and back and forth in time to simply show him that the ascension is coming and of the wonders that actually exist beyond our limited 3d earth experience.

long story short: the pleadieans had a hard time simply accepting billy (or any human) on their planet or even standing next to him, as our 3d human thought patterns are so distorted, that other advanced ets can sense them and it disturbs them greatly. just imagine what it would be like for you to stand next to a shouting bill o'reilly 24/7. eek

and that's when i thought to myself: wow (!) ... these lightweights wouldn't last a day here on earth! ;) and it's true, semjase is quite the master compared to others of her race and she really is the only one who could make the journey and interact with us ... lol. so, this planet must be for souls who wish to "go through the gauntlet" and come out fist-first.


i think mr. elkins was probably plagued with what a lot of good folks here are plagued with. it doesnt mean he was a bad guy or that we should mistrust his life's gifts to us.

absolutely--i don't take him to be a bad person at all. i'm not even convinced his suicide was even a true suicide. but i do believe i heard david (on the pc interview methinks) talk about how when we really do begin to connect with reality, we are connecting with all that is--the good and the bad. and it's a perfect path we draw for a negative entity to come "pay us a visit." also by david: many messages were subtely dropped by ra when they came through carla about the cohesiveness of the group and that it was very easy for the loo members to ... i feel like such a dork for writing this ... turn to the dark side (ahem).


i bet every single person that commits this act has varying motivations, but for us to say that person was negative or did negative things to mislead people is a generality that i wont take part of.

agreed, but i don't blame dr. elkins at all. i feel he was manipulated by some higher entity to end his life here. i can remember david talking about some entity named hil-al-iel--it may have been hilaliel's voice coming through (masquerading as ra's) that led dr. elkins do to what he ultimately did.


even if the law of one materials were based on a completely fictional story anyway, what we are turning it into via choice is something beautiful and loving. and i dont care if a gift comes with "satan wrapping paper" its still a gift and we can do with it what suits us, right?

absolutely, agreed! i just began to worry what might happen if .. as we get closer to 2012, the wanderers or light-workers all begin to channel more and more. instead of calling out some entity's name to come talk to us, it might be better to take an alternate path instead and still achieve some form of enlightenment. hence my dropping of hints of another channeler i found on youtube who side-stepped that landmine by doing something quite obvious (it's obvious when we see the answer): channel yourself!!!!!!! duh!!

if heavyweights like carla ruckert, dw, edgar cayce or even ra-ta slip, fall and permit dark energies to flow through (through no fault of their own ... it seems to be a constant battle) ... i thought to myself: what chance do i have? moreover, is it possible that not everything in the ra material is canon (as far as the law of one philosophy goes)? not highly probable, but not impossible.

so, what are we left with? i believe we're left with the notion that as valuable as the law of one series is, there is nothing more valuable to us individually as the "law of you" series (we each publish our own) ... (absolutely no disrespect to ra). and perhaps, accepting this in humility means you got the true message ra was trying to send. study the loo, but no need to worship every word--better that you simply "channel" yourself (higher self). :cool:

[KassandraLoves]

it just goes to show us that even those who have great "abilties" as we would call them, are just the same as us. we can fall victim to the same things and still get utterly confused by this planet and its workings. its hard for all of us, whether we are channelers, psychics, sleepers, enlighteners, or dreamers, or whatever we choose. and that my friend, is a great common ground to have! i think thats what david wilcock means when he says he is not a "messiah", he is just the same as you and me. earth is an equal opportunity employer, lol...

i agree that channeling can indeed be dangerous. you must be forthright and strong in your light to achieve the best outcome. you must take particular care of your "light body" as much as you do your "physical body." you would not venture out into a storm naked, just as you would not travel mentally to places in which you are unprotected from the "elements" there. (well, i guess some of us probably might like to go streakin' in a storm, lol! i may have to retract that statement! :p)

it surely is important to not restrict your channeling from your higher self. your higher self is paramount in the equation whether you are channeling or not anyway. it is always beneficial for one to keep in touch with that aspect of their mind/body/spirit. at the same time, i feel that its ok to learn to connect with others, especially when channeling an entity of your polarity. after all, we are all one, right? not to mention the amazing things we can see through another's eyes, so to speak. my point is that there are benefits to both aspects of channeling. being a channeler myself, i think its good to have a balance between the 2, just as we should with countless other things in our lives.

this thread is awesome. thanks for letting me share and listen.

lovies!!! :d

[Enkidu]

he looks exactly like jesus!!!!!!!!!!! lol :d

remind me... what did jesus look like again?

continue spiraling ever upwards,
austin

[Firewalker]

remind me... what did jesus look like again?

continue spiraling ever upwards,
austin

lol, like that guy surely.

on the one side we have don elkins being responsible for it. on the other is the view that it wasn't his fault at all.

is there anyone who offers any thoughts and views to eventually balance this?

[Alixandra]

hi all:

new here, hope i've understood the guidelines correctly.

in my humble opinion, it is much easier to channel today and to connect with positive entities because:

1.) the energy and awareness on the planet as a whole is much higher;

2.) the knowledge of how to connect and how to prepare is much greater and more vast;

3.) there are more "teachers," available to assist one in connections and how to stay focused on the highest and best;

4.) it's more common knowledge that the astral entities and energies are lower and slower ... it is there where people "reach" to make connections rather than the quick lightening fast contact and thought transference that happens at the higher realms with ascended masters, angels, etc.

much love and light,

alix

[darth_rothscum]

lol, like that guy surely.

on the one side we have don elkins being responsible for it. on the other is the view that it wasn't his fault at all.

no, actually we both agree that it wasn't elkins' fault he lost his life. i should have written my first posts more clearly i guess. :)

[Firewalker]

ok, i wasn't talking just about this thread, but the whole forum, it's been brought up before. (but then the people who were talking about it elsewhere might not have read this thread.)

but anyway, that's a good enough response for me.

in answer to the original query. i think it was ha-la-liel that spoke through cayce about earth changes. and no negative entity was likely to have been able to speak through carla, outside the original infringements in the first book, where the 'i am ra' is missed out and the dates of atlantis are given as thousands of years older.

after that the group did many rituals to stop the negative infringement and ra was able to stop negative influences on the channeling so long as the questioner didn't ask too many transient questions.

namaste,

[Mewtree Sapp]

do the planets of the solar system have anything to do with with the journey of dimensions we are passing through chronologicaly (as in the sun the first density and jupiter the sixth)?

after recently re watching one of davids interviews on google, a 4 part project camelot one, he mentions something of a contact with his higher self from the 6th density and it was said to him that in an earlier time we through the process resided on venus.

so given this theory and that we are at the edge of the 4th soon to be going to the 5th, would it be right to assume that the 5th density is on mars???

i understand this question may appear, "cute", but this thought crossed my mind and i could do it being answered from an adept.

mewtree

:d

[Firewalker]

the short answer is no, at least according to the ra material.

the sun is one through eight. venus is 5th and 6th and is where ra hails from. saturn is whatever density the 'confederation' are. or at least the rings.

although edgar cayce mentioned offhandedly some sort of correlation with the planets venus through neptune. (making that eight since pluto is not a planet.) i think this was in relation to star signs but i'm not sure and david wilcock mentioned it off handedly in his book shift of the ages.

so, it's a mystery.

[Mewtree Sapp]

hur hur, was under the influence of ale that whole weekend, now excuses out of the way.

thx for your answer:o