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Chamil1950@...

02-25-2002, 10:31 AM

in a message dated mon, 25 feb 2002 5:20:28 pm eastern standard time, "tiffani
boswell" <tiffani@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=bdr1iia_ud72hngye0c5opevmienq2hogz_b26 8pucl0q9ghlwmd5bjv02wey17djuqtfobfsoebvx5-)> writes:

(tiffani)
know self
radiate love in inner self out
and open this self to other self w/out
hesitation...
it seems the path to know self and even radiate
love in inner self out may not be as hard as the last kicker...to open to
other-self without hesitation!
...what does "open self to other-self w/out hesitation" encompass???
what if other-self does not like the love and
retaliates with hurtful actions, anger, depression, ignores you....

(chris)
i think here it would be helpful for you to bring in reincarnation into this
whole question. first, there are two experiences the self will have in each
incarnation ( there could be more-responses again welcome). the first is decided
before incarnation between the self and the other self...it usually teaches us a
great life lesson-it can be quite painful or just the opposite, great joy. the
two beings have usually "switched places" so each can experience what the other
did before. the second experience involves the energy that the self projects.
and, has been discussed before, that which you project, you usually attract. you
can attract the same polarity of that which you project, or you can attract the
opposite polarity. some lovely people, in their desire to be loved, seem to
attract the latter ("scoundrels" comes to mind:)the self may also harbor some
past hurt that keeps attracting the scoundrels, so "to know the self" is
certainly appropriate here. hope i have helped?

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Tiffani Boswell

02-25-2002, 02:16 PM

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>i know we have talked about this many times, but isn't it the best way to keep learning...here is my new thought/question....
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>ra: i am ra. the best way to be of service to others has been explicitly covered in previous material. we will iterate briefly.
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>the best way of service to others is the constant attempt to seek to share the love of the creator as it is known to the inner self. this involves self knowledge and the ability to open the self to the other-self without hesitation. this involves, shall we say, radiating that which is the essence or the heart of the mind / body / spirit complex. 
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>know self
>radiate love in inner self out
>and open this self to other self w/out hesitation...
>
>it seems the path to know self and even radiate love in inner self out may not be as hard as the last kicker...to open to other-self without hesitation!
>
>for example...lets say "someone" touches a part of their "inner self" deeper than they have before...is full of love and radiates it out....what does "open self to other-self w/out hesitation" encompass???
>
>what if other-self does not like the love and retaliates with hurtful actions, anger, depression, ignores you....the first time it could be completely without hesitation...but after that it seems there might be a little hesitation involved because of previous hurt....
>
>and at what point do you not "completely open yourself..." what is the line between healthy and not?
>
>or does this all just complete the cycle of if other-self does do "something" that creates some sort of "emotional" feeling in us then that is just a place to start to "know yourself" and thus it goes on and on...
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Chamil1950@...

02-26-2002, 05:00 AM

in a message dated tue, 26 feb 2002 11:34:12 am eastern standard time, "tiffani
boswell" <tiffani@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=vhlt_ham6nbgmfhd5ny2ggtpd71fweplcszbxp pmqs1ss-ksig5ceegldktri6phozutsa72oveirf9twziy)> writes:
(tiffani)
ok....do you have some "quotes" for this...does ra talk of this or other
sources.....and with free will...how can each experience what the other did
before...expecially in different environments, families, and choices to
facilitate or not facilitate
love...

this is my general consensus after reading many varied books on
reincarnation...alot of cayce stuff etc. i am woefully inadequate in the ra
department, which i am currently trying to improve upon :)take care chris
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Jeremy Weiland

02-26-2002, 06:10 AM

> for example...lets say "someone" touches a part of
> their "inner self" deeper than they have before...is
> full of love and radiates it out....what does "open
> self to other-self w/out hesitation" encompass???

i dunno, i always interpreted that as pretty much the
goal. our hesitation *is* our regular waking life. i
mean, catalyst is basically moving us towards a state
where we do not hesitiate to radiate love/light.
that's the goal, and life takes you there.

> what if other-self does not like the love and
> retaliates with hurtful actions, anger, depression,
> ignores you....the first time it could be completely
> without hesitation...but after that it seems there
> might be a little hesitation involved because of
> previous hurt....

that is an experience in need of integration. but
there is love in that experience.

> and at what point do you not "completely open
> yourself..." what is the line between healthy and
> not?

you can be completely open in radiation while
rejecting negative service.

> or does this all just complete the cycle of if
> other-self does do "something" that creates some
> sort of "emotional" feeling in us then that is just
> a place to start to "know yourself" and thus it goes
> on and on...

knowing yourself isn't dependant upon the other self.
knowing yourself is a personal process that may have
an effect on your relationships, but it is mostly for
integration. as in, know yourself, accept yourself,
become the creator.

later,

jeremy

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Tiffani Boswell

02-26-2002, 08:32 AM

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> (chris)
> i think here it would be helpful for you to bring in reincarnation into this whole question. the first is decided before incarnation between the self and the other self...it usually teaches us a great life lesson-it can be quite painful or just the opposite, great joy. the two beings have usually "switched places" so each can experience what the other did before. 
>
>ok....do you have some "quotes" for this...does ra talk of this or other sources.....and with free will...how can each experience what the other did before...expecially in different environments, families, and choices to facilitate or not facilitate love...
>
>thanks tiffani

Tiffani Boswell

02-26-2002, 08:43 AM

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> you can be completely open in radiation while
> rejecting negative service.

>great...i guess you formulated the question i was trying to ask...how do we be completely open in radiation and love but reject negative service...isn't rejection not being open...
>
>tiffani

Jeremy Weiland

02-26-2002, 09:05 AM

> > you can be completely open in radiation while
> > rejecting negative service.

> great...i guess you formulated the question i was
> trying to ask...how do we be completely open in
> radiation and love but reject negative
> service...isn't rejection not being open...

well, i mean, i don't know... i guess it would depend
on the situation... i don't have a quick answer and if
i had one then it wouldn't be worth giving. i'm not
"there" yet as far as wisdom, love, experience,
integration, etc... so i feel really inadequate trying
to tell you how to do that, since i haven't completely
figured it out.

my understanding is that, when you're being honest
with yourself and listening to that still, small
voice, the telltale signs of negative service are
easily recognizable. it's not a matter of not being
open, of not radiating honesty and compassion, it's a
matter of withdrawing yourself from a situation where
neither the service you wish to render is requested
nor is the other's service requested. you are still
open and sharing love/light, but you are doing it on
your terms.

i guess this is not completely open, but it's about as
close as we can get in 3d. later on in 5d, according
to ra, we will see the wisdom of radiating completely
without discrimination.

and of course you always have the option of using the
negative service and not rejecting it. this could
prove to have a catalytic effect on your progress.
but you don't have to. and from your question it
sounded like you wanted to know how one can be
positive without having one's free will completely
trampled.

as always, my opinion, my understanding, based on my
experience, subjective as hell. :-)

jeremy

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Chamil1950@...

02-26-2002, 10:25 AM

jason gave us a great site- radianthealing.com

here is a quote from neal ryder who has the site:

the creator does not condemn us because he has never judged us. acceptance,
forgiveness, and compassion heal and open our heart. it is within our hearts,
with a physical location to focus on, that we will connect with our divine
nature, our higher self, our christ self, our magical personality, the spark of
the creator within us.
take care luv c.

Sunny One

02-26-2002, 12:24 PM

there are many reincarnation possibilities.
i would vote that the best possibility is
the one which promotes service to others,
and well-being for all involved.
of course free will allows you to choose.

my favorite possibility is the concept that
reincarnation is the means by which perfect
justice is obtained. in this case oppressors
reincarnate as the oppressed, if at all.
i think this is consistent with what chris
was proposing.

this puts a smile on my face.
pat

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Rod Johnson

03-08-2002, 08:24 PM

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>you asked...isn't rejection not being open...trythe word"differentiate" and you
>come to free choice. then rejection nolonger applies. as the tao te ching states, "...andthe superior person goes forth carefully observing, and choosing this and not that.
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