Hawks and doves

[3D Sunset]

Ever since I started studying the Law of One, I've made a point of looking for, and invariably seeing, hawks slowly circling in the sky whenever I'm outside. Recognizing this as the totem of Ra, I always get a warm feeling throughout my body as I watch them gracefully patrolling.

We noticed one hawk in particular that's been nesting in our back yard for about three years. Interestingly, this summer, we've also noticed a huge influx of doves, probably 10-15 of them, living the back yard as well.

I was just wondering if other people have had similar experiences lately with symbolic animals.

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[Alloura]

Living in the vast metropolis that is LA, I always love it when nature still finds a way...

I too have noticed more hawks in the last couple of years in the area where my son & I work. I love to see them riding the air currents, it gives me such a feeling of peace, serenity and freedom all at the same time.

I had forgotten that the hawk was Ra's totem - very interesting.

Love & Light

Alloura

[soup]

I've had auspicious experiences with people who resemble hawks - related to their brow and nose features...and I wondered if these people appreciated hawks as one of their totems.


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[Scratch]

About a week ago I began reading 'Seth Speaks'. A few days ago I was reading the chapter about symbolism and realized that I need to start paying attention to symbolism in my dreaming and waking states. As I sat thinking about this I remembered something that happened the day before.

There is a big spider living under the eave of my shed. He has a huge intricate web that comes off the eave and is anchored all the way down on the ground. Anyways, every time I see the spider I automatically get goose bumps as I have always had a primal fear of them. They facinate me though and lately every time I walk by the shed I grab a stick and vibrate his web just to see him scurry out of his hiding spot, thinking his web has snared a meal. Well, yesterday I found a big fat beetle crawling on the ground and had the impulse to catch it and put it on the web. The spider came out and quickly started wrapping it up while at the same time biting it which produced ample amounts of venom, some of which dropped to the ground. He has been feeding on the beetle off and on every since.

I have interpretted this event as a symbol of me feeding my fears. This really is an issue in my life and the timing could not have been more perfect. Magical really!

One other thing about the hawk mentioned above: this morning I went outside and the clear blue sky was filled with activity. I counted and there were four hawks being harassed by 9 crows. It was an amazing spectacle. The crows were squawking like crazy and being very aggressive against the hawks. Eventually, the hawks retreated in one direction and all the crows in the other. Not quite sure what to make of that.

[estopatitiana]

the most common animal symbolism i see is butterflys, this i intepret as a symbol of change or rebirth or just simply a positive sign for me. I have seen other animal symbols that have been used to literally tell me im going in the wrong direction, i saw a small coopers hawk being chased by a bigger one one day, i also saw a dog chase a fox right when i was trying to make a phone call.
i saw lots of cockroaches in my parents basement for a few weeks and as soon as i began to set my boundaries better they disapeared completely in one day. I never killed any of them:)

[Moderator: The hawks and doves thread seems to fit better in general discussions and will be moved there]

[soup]

One of the great sentances that the Questioner offers:
it goes something like, "...I would certainly appreciate the return of the golden hawk..."


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[boogiepop81]

I've noticed a lot of hawks and doves in my area as well. More than usual for me in the Midwest, usually when I walk to work there's a dove sitting on the electric wire outside of my house, and I often see hawks gliding in the sky circling above, I stop in my tracks just in awe of its beauty.

[3D Sunset]

Yes Soup, that's perhaps my favorite interraction of the series (and interestingly the last comment made by Don directly to Ra at the very end of session 106). I particularly like the part of Ra's response to which I've added emphasis below. This is indeed what comes to my mind each time I see a hawk.

Law of One, Book V Fragment 56 to Session 106
Questioner: I would just ask if there is anything that we can do to make the instrument more comfortable or to help her and to improve the contact, and what would be the soonest that Ra would recommend the next contact? I would certainly appreciate the return of the golden hawk. It gave me great comfort.

Ra: I am Ra. You have complete freedom to schedule workings. We suggest the nature of all manifestation to be illusory and functional only in so far as he entity turns from shape and shadow to the One. I am Ra. We leave you, my friends, in the love and in the glorious light of the one infinite Creator. Go forth, then, rejoicing in the power and in the peace of the one infinite Creator. Adonai.

[dukemccormic]

I read this thread a while ago, but didn't have anything to add. Yesterday I went out to hit the grocery store, and outside nearly directly above my apartment were two to three dozen hawks circling. They were black or really dark with red heads. I'm no bird expert so they could possibly NOT have been hawks at all, but they soared as I remember other raptors, and had that shape. When I came back from the store they were gone. That morning I had received an email from a friend in Russia, at 2:22am, that said just what I needed to hear, and I had been in general prayer (I used to call it intersecion as a Christian) all that morning.
Anyways...it only leads me to my favorite Ra line,
"this density is not for understanding"
Matthew.

[litllady]

I find it interesting that many religions places alot of importance of the symbolisms of the hawk/eagle/phoenix. Did you know that the scorpion in the zodiac used to be depicted as a bird? Also, there used to only be 10 sings of the zodiac. The virgin, scales, and bird used to be combined into one sign. When they were separated, it made 12 signs along with the change of the bird head into the scorpion.

So the ones who think of theirs elves as Scorpios could also think of themselves as the hawk/eagle/phoenix(the one who takes flight). Big difference then the one who stings and crawls on the ground.

[soup]

Part of the symbolism may suggest trancension - as if breaking the bonds of gravity....ascending toward the heavens. Also the vision or focus suggested can seem better than average, which may relate to the eye of Ra symbol.

Scorpions of Scorpio (as a water sign) can seep into cracks like water and so reach or dig into regions inaccessible to most others. It may be that scorpion venom can offer some transcendental effect...and likewise they may command respect by simple appearance. A scarab beetle and a scorpion may share similar shell colors...

I think of Ra as offering a Mercurial quality, related to the wordforms. Mercury was symbolized with winged shoes which suggests transcension. I also think of Ra as having a Leo quality, Leo ruled by the Sun. There's likely connection to every sign to be found in Ra, testament to a sense of wholeness integration.


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[Mewtree Sapp]

I myself have been noticing the shrill of hawks more often these days, infact as far as my memory recalls untill afew years ago I am sure i have never heard one other than in a zoo or in the open far away from the town (I live in a densely populated part of northern England) but in the last few years i seem to hear the shrilly shreak of a kestrel every few months whilst on foot through surburbia. Now some may say "well thats due to increased traffic thus increased road kill and the kestrel in the last 10 years or so taking on a more scavenging role", also perhaps it is part of increasing synchronicity (my romantic thoughts like to believe).

Regarding doves, well except for well off folk i knew off who kept them, 'till recent years again I have never really seen them around alot at all, until the last few years they have been congregating in my parents backgarden, which in fairness they have made effort to turn into something of a bird sanctuary (again a sychronised romance is invoked in the mind lol).

[soup]

There's mention of Horus in the Ra Materials, whose symbol was a Hawk.
As for doves, Mary was known as a keeper of doves - when I think of the Christian Mary, I'm reminded of the Triple Goddess - Trivia or Hecate which seems similar to Heget, an Egyptian frog goddess who governed ressurection and was related to the Nile, the sea - rooted in the Mar of Mary. So related to the idea of ressurection seems the healing power of pyramids.

Recently I suggested the name Mary may be appropriate for the Galactic Center, related to a triple arm spiral image I saw of it.


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[conundrum]

Interesting thread... I have been seeing doves and hawks as well as crows, interestingly enough I have also been getting an image of a hyena and a big black dog, I also witnessed a big brown female dog being harassed by a very small white and brown male dog at which point the big brown dog became agitated and wished to rip the little brown and white dog to
pieces.

It makes me wonder if every thing in nature is in balance and that humans are an error and do not seem to belong here, dogs apparently sense fear and become hostile so in a way they may be feeding off of the fear it self.

No thing on earth seems to suffer as much as a human and no thing on earth causes so many imbalances, I believe Hyena black dog and Human need to come to some kind of resolution as humans and nature conflict in so many ways that humans are obviously un-natural and do not belong here... no more wars and conflict just a mutual understanding and agreement and a parting of ways an error is an error and all ways will be until the error is corrected or fixed.

[soup]

From a premise of energetic rates of change, there can seem examples of both violent and merciful states of change within affairs of humanity and affairs of nature - and possibly they are manifestations of one and the same distinguished only by labels. If nature was able to label and point fingers of blame at the root cause of the world's problems than there seems good chance that to do so nature would manifest itself in a human form, in which case the inescapable forces of nature animatef alive and well unconsciously within humanity seem to facilitate humanity to consciously point fingers of blame at itself.

The surface of the sun seems quite violent and potentially destructive, though pleasing from the vantage of a nice beach. Possibly a remedy for too much heat is taking shade or giving distance to that which seems to persist incessantly.


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