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buke80
08-21-2008, 03:47 AM
As I read the law of one books I understand that the creator is the intelligent infinity. but what is intelligent infinity? is it a being is it a system? we are a part of intelligent infinity or the creator. Are we a part of a living thing with a mind and soul like us or are we a part of a system which covers everything in the universe?

I am simply asking what is the creator. What are we a part of. If creator is a system then there is not a problem. I am part of that system and I have my own identity. But if the creator is a living creature then I do not have an identity if I am one of his parts.

In book one it says that the first thing in creation is infinity. Then the second step is that the infinity became aware. How can infinity become aware. Does infinty have a mind?. Also it says in the book that the intelligent infinity discerned a concept. How can intelligent infinity discern a concept? Does it have a mind?

soup
08-22-2008, 03:09 PM
Maybe some questions seem rhetorical in nature? If so, then maybe part of the answer exists within the question, as if the greater tension exists within the problems of articulation more than the problems of misunderstanding.


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billybobbutterball
08-22-2008, 05:55 PM
As I read the law of one books I understand that the creator is the intelligent infinity. but what is intelligent infinity? is it a being is it a system? we are a part of intelligent infinity or the creator. Are we a part of a living thing with a mind and soul like us or are we a part of a system which covers everything in the universe?

Hi! What a tough series of questions! Please keep in mind that the One Creator remains essentially a mystery even for those in high density; much is speculation. Intelligent infinity implies that the entire Cosmos has varying levels of consciousness throughout. The cosmos also includes what we think of as emptiness...the physical vacuum. But actually the vacuum is anything but that being a field of incredible potential power. The latent energy in the vacuum occupying the space of single hydrogen atom is virtually equal to the physically-apparent universe contained in a sphere some many billions of light years across. This is mind-blowing! In reality there is no emptiness anywhere. In an important sense the universe can be considered far beyond merely solid!

When activated, this intelligent infinity resolves into infinite energy, which can be used in a variety of ways, including, of course, creation. WE will increasingly become effective sub-sub-logi that can reshape realty via our collective and even individual minds.

The One Creator is the Cosmos... but the Cosmos is not the Creator...the Creator is more than the sum of its parts. (philosophically this is designated PanENtheism...God as both immanent and transcendent) This is not a seperated but personal god as visualized in Christianity.

All is one. We are not sons and daughters but rather aspects of the one creator that are charged with exploring all potentialities in this cosmos expression. We are the learning tool of the ever learning Creator...this is similar to what is called "Process Theology" and is distinct from orthodox Christianity in that the orthodox god is absolute perfection -- thus as set as marble since perfection cannot be improved upon.... and this idealized grecian concept of god cannot learn as there is nothing to learn since He is omnipotent/omniknowing and omni everything else imaginable

I am simply asking what is the creator. What are we a part of. If creator is a system then there is not a problem. I am part of that system and I have my own identity. But if the creator is a living creature then I do not have an identity if I am one of his parts.

Well, those are tricky questions! The creator is certainly not a creature in the sense of being a creation of something else that we would understand(Its beyond our understanding even if some infinite regress involved)

We cannot properly be parts in the usual sense as ALL IS ONE... the universe is holographic... similar to the Hindu concept of the Jewels of indra displayed across a cosmic wide net ... where each jewel contains itself and the whole.

Our individuality is an illusion...but one that can run the course of millions of what we call earth years. Our ego's are very important survival tools to have here in the 3rd density, but the self we think of as ourselves is but a fraction of who we really consist of. Its like this, Can you imagine a three year old comprehending what he/she will be as a mature adult...and crying because their 3 year old ego will be lost by being incorporated into something greater and beyond their limited understanding? Thought:"Time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." the 3 year old and the adult version have nothing seperating them ... our space/time is superceded by time/space. Our 6D self KNOWS we are in the process of becoming...but the exact path is in question since that can changed by our choices ...but we will get there, absolutely no question.

In book one it says that the first thing in creation is infinity. Then the second step is that the infinity became aware. How can infinity become aware. Does infinty have a mind?. Also it says in the book that the intelligent infinity discerned a concept. How can intelligent infinity discern a concept? Does it have a mind?

Infinity became aware because it is the given nature of infinity to be conscious. yes, infinity has a mind, but not as we can imagine such a mind to be. It doesn't seem a problem to me that intelligent infinity can discern a concept as that would seems a natural consequence of a burgening infinite intelligence examining its situation and deciding to expand on its possibilties.

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Wow! I really stuck my neck out! The above is my best shot at giving an explanation...but if The Ra was actively here I would probably have my hands slapped a few times with a metaphysical ruler. Don Elkins was a lot smarter than I am and he made a few wrong guesses that caused him to be pulled up short and sharply corrected. (lovingly of course...:))

I think that coming with more study you will start to get a more satisfying sense of this beautiful, flowing philosophy of religion. You might pick up something that carries a sense of poetry, one of which would be Ken Carey's "The Third Millenium". (I have called it a romanticised version of the Ra material.) Also you might find some special insights by googling the near death experience of Mellen Thomas Benedict. Select the option taking you to the NDE site. MTB has established a web site but some of the original material has been edited out so as not to offend Christians.

I hope some of this is helpful, and again, please understand I'm an individual, not a spokesperson for Divine Cosmos. Any mistakes are mine entirely..:eek:

best, Bill G AKA billbobbutterball

Earthcat
08-22-2008, 07:17 PM
We are all the creator, intellegent infinity, god, any name it is given.

The question you ask, "what is the creator?" is not knowable from the low density that we inhabit or even for those of the sixth and seventh density, who say they do not know. It is only when we complete the spirit journey and return to the origin that we will know.

soup
09-16-2008, 08:29 PM
That book of creation, Genesis...I wonder if it says something about creation which somehow complements similar ideas shared in The Ra Materials. I wonder about the primordial sounds and such...


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