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Jadde44
08-11-2008, 12:21 PM
I read in the RA material about Carla avoiding going into a trance while channeling. Is this the same case when meditating?

Spiral of Light
08-30-2008, 07:47 PM
Hi Jadde,

I noticed that you didn't get a response to your question, so for what it is worth, here's my attempt to answer it for you.

Evidently, at some point in the group's channeling, Carla was the recipient of a 'negative greeting'. (I'm not sure of the time-line, but I think you can find it discussed in the later publications.) In an effort to avoid future occurences of the same type of unwanted greeting, she decided to no longer go into a deep trance state when channeling.

Last year, I had the opportunity to be present when Carla channeled Q'uo. She held Jim's hand throughout the channeling session and explained that holding his hand was an important way for her to stay grounded and to avoid going into a trance state. It didn't seem to affect the contact with Q'uo which came through loud and clear.

So, to answer your question, the trance state is not a necessary ingredient for successful meditation or for channeling, IMHO. Just my 2 cents...:)

SuperManny
09-01-2008, 09:06 AM
Going into a trance dangerous?
I read in the RA material about Carla avoiding going into a trance while channeling.
Yes indeed! The type of trance Carla went into, to channel the Ra material can be very dangerous because she was actually vacating the body. In that moment when she left, but before the Ra came in she was extremely vulnerable.

Not only did she endanger her life, but there was one very disturbing incident where the negative entity almost trapped her Spirit in a negative polarity.:eek: Had he succeeded Carla would likely have had to adopt the negative STS path; at least until she evolved enough to switch polarities.

The type of channeling that she does now with Q'uo is quite different. The Principle of Q'uo does not actually speak thru her, as Ra did; thus there's a much greater margin for error. They merely present Carla with ideas, concepts and thoughtforms which she needs to understand correctly in order to translate them accurately into words.
Is this the same case when meditating?No, no, not at all! When you meditate you're not vacating your body in a manner that would allow another entity to come in and take over.

rose star
02-10-2010, 05:10 PM
hi, my understanding is that when meditating it would be better if you say and have the intent of protection.this can be a protection from the Light or any special being that you consider to be holy or in touch with the highest Light of the One.

Because there are negative beings that do try to cause harm or interfer with you.
But if you have a protection you will be safe because they can not bother you if you declare it.

from my own experience with meditation i was able to find a High Level Master to get teaching and meditation training and the High level Master also gives protection as well as mantra protection charged words to help us when we meditate,

But if you are alone it will be ok too as long as you ask for protection first.

A trance also needs protection and i read that Carla while doing the Law od One had to say protection words and clean the room and charge the room with protection energy from the negative beings.

billybobbutterball
02-12-2010, 12:08 PM
Hi, all..

If I may I would like to expand a bit on the previous postings concerning what the L/L Research group ran into..

The enlightening work of Jim, Carla and Don was becoming of such an important spiritual factor that it attracted the attention of a very powerful, 5th density negative entity -- one who could greatly increase its own negative polarity by stamping out this unusually brilliant source of spiritual light.

Trying to keep their outlook in a positive vein, the troubled trio tried to put their best spin on things by referring to the negative attacks as being mere "greetings" :p They even went so far as to inquire through the Ra if there was any way they could be of service to this
poor, lonely, reclusive entity who was hell-bent to do them in...Well, it turns out they were facing a win-no win, stand-off situation.

The attacks were not limited to trance times...the entity was trying to enhance incipient sickness...or to cause a confusion in Carla's mind so that she would injure herself...such as walking in front of an automobile....that is, one that was not merely innocently parked.

From what I understand this was an unusual case in that such a powerful entity of darkness is not that easily attracted -- unless the potential gain is of such magnitude as not to be passed by.

Of course, each time an attack was mounted and failed the result was a reduction in the attacker's level of negative polarity...poor thing...but it was such a hard worker it kept coming back again and again....:rolleyes:

Hope the above is reasonably correct and will help answer some lingering questions....

best, billybob

evolving
02-12-2010, 12:57 PM
These attacks were not only limited to Carla. It was/is believed that Don's mental state, which led to his suicide, came about due to negative attack.

billybobbutterball
02-13-2010, 07:20 PM
Hi, Evolving

I think you are right, although I can't recall Carla actually saying as much...The strange role reversal she suggested to Don -- which he accepted -- seems likely to have been the psychological agent that created a crack in his armour plate -- an opening that allowed a poisoned psychic thorn to penetrate. What a ghastly time they went through! We owe them so much!

bbb


These attacks were not only limited to Carla. It was/is believed that Don's mental state, which led to his suicide, came about due to negative attack.