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The_Last_Man_50008
08-02-2008, 07:11 AM
is ascension really an achievement?
Silvanus Sanctus Germanus
08-02-2008, 07:16 PM
It is a natural process in human evolution, the achievement is simply the awakening to the now, the present moment, choosing to accept rather than searching to control. This choice, or even simply the realisation of the choice to Love, the awakening to the options and taking action is the ultimate achievement in 3rd density, ascention is just what comes next, nature taking it's course................................Sylvain..... .........................
This may be simply a general question that may be answered simply, that maybe it depends on perspective.
How far does one hope to ascend, a millimeter or a mile?
How fast does one hope to ascend, in a millisecond or millenium?
Could it be that a sense of achievement is simply relative to what the guy next door is doing?
From a depth of knowing the void, as meditating, maybe a person's perspective becomes less relativistic and more absolute whereby labels such as ascension and achievement take on new meaning.
soup
dukemccormic
09-06-2008, 10:22 AM
I like to look at ascension as any other process of becoming something. You can practice all you life to become a kung-fu master, or a culinary master. At some point you may reach a level of skill unsurpassed by anyone else, but would you ever consider yourself finished training? I would say it would be an accomplishment if you deem it as such.
Just a thought...
Matthew.
ggw_bach
12-23-2008, 06:50 PM
is ascension really an achievement?
moving fowards, and advancing through the densities is a natural progression. Just like a child outgrows certain toys, the human soul moves forward with knowledge and wisdom. What holds it back is FEAR. Do you remember the 'fear' you had moving from Junior School to High School? that you would get your head dunked, or wouldn't come up to scratch? Fear that you were leaving behind the familiar, and moving into the unknown?
such is the spiritual path: coming to an inner confidence, an inner acknowledgement of personal power, self sufficiency. You are indeed adequate and whole. Fear is what holds the entire process back. As Silvanus says "choosing to accept rather than searching to control". When you are whole, there is no need to control.
ayadew
12-24-2008, 04:36 AM
There is no achievement, we are all, everything - now.
To "achieve" something would require that there was a time where you weren't, but time is an illusion. So I don't think you can "achieve" something connected to the Law of One in the word's meaning.
is ascension really an achievement?
I think it is an achievement. From the quotes below, Ra says that it is difficult to attain harvestability for the negative path, AND that it is also equally hard to attain 51% STO.
"17.32 Questioner: What is to be the entity’s percentage if he is to be harvested for the negative?
Ra: I am Ra. The entity who wishes to pursue the path of service to self must attain a grade of five, that is five percent service to others, ninety-five percent service to self. It must approach totality. The negative path is quite difficult to attain harvestability upon and requires great dedication.
17.33 Questioner: Why is the negative path so much more difficult to attain harvestability upon than the positive?
Ra: I am Ra. This is due to a distortion of the Law of One which indicates that the gateway to intelligent infinity be a gateway at the end of a straight and narrow path as you may call it. To attain fifty-one percent dedication to the welfare of other-selves is as difficult as attaining a grade of five percent dedication to otherselves. The, shall we say, sinkhole of indifference is between those two."
I actually have some questions as to what 51% STO really is. Consider the following cases:
1) Angelina Jolie gives 1/3 of all her earnings to charity, but she still keeps millions. Does she ascend? Remember what Jesus said to the rich, young man who wanted to follow him (sell all his belongings and give it to the poor).
2) Bill Gates, for the longest time the richest man in the world. When he dies he plans to have given away ALL of his money. Does he ascend?
3) A doctor who saves lives and "serves" others, but who also has no love in his heart and only does his job for the money. Does he ascend?
What does 51% really mean? Can I replace SERVICE with LOVE? Can one service others without love? Does it mean that you have to love at least one person more than you so much that you would give your life for that person? Because if you aren't willing to give your life for another, no matter how good you think you are, one can make the argument that you don't love anyone 51% than you love yourself and that you won't ascend!?
Please, your comments and thoughts will be much appreciated. Thanks everyone in advance.
J.
christincook
01-13-2009, 01:49 PM
is ascension really an achievement?
This is a good question, especially since we have been lumping together ascension and harvest. I'm not quite sure that they are exactly the same thing.
I've been reading some ancient texts by Thoth/Hermes lately, and according to him ascension TAKES WORK, and a lot of it. Ascension is when you move up through the densities, while keeping your physical body. Anyone who is familiar with the entities Ay and Tiya... this is what they have done.
Resurrection is when you move up through the densities, but reconstitute your body (a body) on the other side, once you get there.
I have a feeling that harvest could be a mix of the two. DW seems to think that we can remain in our 3D bodies during harvest, but that it will be difficult, and we'll really have to focus on it.
Also, allegedly ascension/resurrection can be achieved at any time, regardless of an upcoming harvest or not. Harvest only occurs at those 25,000 intervals.
eagleye
01-15-2009, 11:27 AM
Perhaps I can provide some clarity in regards to some of the above posts. I will post my thoughts in four parts since this is a long response.
Harvestability is directly connected to polarization; in fact it is the intensity of polarization that makes one harvestable.
“QUESTION: Is it possible to increase polarization without increasing harvestability?”
“RA: In the 3rd density an increase in the serving of others or the serving of self will almost inevitably increase the ability of an entity to enjoy a higher intensity of light. Thus it is almost impossible to polarize without increasing harvestability in 3rd density.”
What is polarization? It is a state of mind that affects the intensity of light energy which resides within us and achieved through a mental choice, the intensity of which is escalated through our will and determination to go in that direction.
The love energy can be either for ourselves in the negative path, or love of others in the positive, but really both are the same thing since all is one.
There is no need to worry so much about exactly what we have to do because it is as simple as making the choice to go on that path.
Once that choice is made and we actively seek it, the answers will come to us at the right time. We will find them within ourselves as we become polarized.
The more information you seek, the more will be presented to you in order to guide you on that path to greater and greater polarity.
Along with polarity come greater abilities and awareness.
But how does polarization affect ascension?
Ascension is a process through which an amazing gateway is opened to intelligent infinity by the activation of an energy circuit within our body.
This activation is achieved through polarization since polarization affects specific energy centers. The energy centers are activated through mental will and the concepts that we focus on.
Ra described this circuit in the following words:
“RA The lower energy pole (root chakra) will draw the universal energy into itself from the cosmos. Then it will move upward to be met and reacted to by the positive spiraling energy moving downward from within.
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eagleye
01-15-2009, 11:29 AM
RA continued from previous post:
“The measure of an entity’s level of ray activity is the locus where the south pole outer energy has been met by the inner spiraling positive energy. As the entity grows more polarized this locus will move upward. Your peoples call this kundalini. It is the meeting place of cosmic and inner vibratory understanding. (B2, 125)
RA: The metaphor of the coiled serpent being called upwards is very appropriate. We are attempting then, as entities of any true color of this octave, to move the meeting place of inner and outer natures further upward along the energy centers. One method of approach is this:
Seat within ones self of those experiences which are attracted to the entity through the south pole (root chakra).”
What we are really discussing here in regards to 51% service to others is how to become positively polarized enough to open this gate.
The problem most people might have in understanding what service to others really is comes from trying to visualize a physical act. But service to others does not start with physical actions it starts with the choice of polarization.
When reading the law of one it becomes clear that this term “service to others” is not describing a physical act but more a state of mind and is dependent to a large extent upon the motives of the entity rather than the actions themselves.
Polarization and service to others is a process that moves from the inside out. So it must be achieved mentally and then radiated outwards with our actions of love towards others.
Any action that we perform as a service to another with the intent of assisting is the crystallization of the mind set of the individual to serve others.
How do we achieve this mindset? First it starts with the desire to have it, then the choice to move in that direction.
Finally we can meditate on the thoughts that will shape our beliefs and feelings towards other selves.
Personally I feel as though the realization and meditation of what is oneness can take us farther than any other thought in the path to positive polarity.
Through this understanding we begin to view all others as ourselves and in turn are able to love them as we do ourselves because really they are us.
Also once we have enough desire to serve we will be able to choose in what capacity we can make ourselves available.
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eagleye
01-15-2009, 11:32 AM
Ra did not stress the importance of any specific actions necessary to graduate.
Instead they focused on radiating love from the inside out, towards others, when they said:
“The best way to be of service to others is the constant attempt to seek to share the love of the Creator as it is known to the inner self.
This involves self-knowledge and the ability to open the self to the other-self without hesitation. This involves, shall we say, radiating that which is the essence or the heart of the mind/body/spirit complex.
Speaking to the intention of your question, the best way for each seeker in third density to be of service to others is unique to that mind/body/spirit complex.
This means that the mind/body/spirit complex must then seek within itself the intelligence of its own discernment as to the way it may best serve other-selves.
This will be different for each. There is no best. There is no generalization. Nothing is known.”
We have to be honest with ourselves as to the motives behind our actions. Are we doing something out of selfishness or because we truly want to help someone else? That I believe is the key.
The love that radiates from us out of pure motives will at that point have a powerful effect on those around us. Love is an actual form of energy and emanates from within each of us.
This inward process of motivation has an effect on the energy centers within us that correspond to the different levels of density or frequency.
Universal love is the forth density green ray vibration. When we focus on service to others, with the intent of having honest motives towards them, this center within us begins to activate.
When a certain level of intensity is achieved the circuit begins to close and the veil begins to lift.
There are seven main energy centers each with its' own vibration that corresponds to each level of the octave.
The activation of all or some of these seven centers depends on the polarity chosen.
Ra shows that it is the top crown chakra, or violet ray frequency, that provides the gateway to intelligent infinity, notice below:
“Ra: The necessity for graduation to 4th density is an ability to use, welcome and enjoy a certain intensity of the white light of the One Infinite Creator. It’s a function of the intensity of the violet ray of the individual.”
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eagleye
01-15-2009, 11:33 AM
The intensity of the activation of this chakra determines the harvestability of an entity in the third and forth harvest.
This circuit does not flow in one direction but is composed of upward streaming energy from the bottom red ray energy center, and meets at the center where the downward streaming energy from the crown chakra flows.
When the two meet, a gateway is opened through the crown violet ray chakra. This allows the entity to be compatible with the frequency of the forth density.
So it is not the judgment of other beings that determines whether or not we will be harvested, but rather our compatibility to a particular frequency of that density.
The below statement from Ra reveals this:
“RA: The brilliance or rotational speed of the energy centers is not as important for harvestability as the balanced aspect or violet ray manifestation of an entity; for those entities which are unbalanced, especially as to the primary rays (red, yellow and blue) will not be capable of sustaining the impact of the love and light of intelligent infinity to the extent necessary for harvest.
This compatibility is achieved through the activation of these energy centers within us to the degree necessary for ascension.
Higher beings simply perform a service of placing us where we are compatible; they do not judge us of their own accord as if we are being condemned or rewarded. We have free will and choose where we will go.
Also I would like to note that Ra mentioned achieving negative polarity is much more difficult since two entire energy centers must be completely bypassed in order to complete the circuit. Those of the green and blue are ignored as if they do not exist.
That is why the will of service to self inclination must be 95% as opposed to 51% for the positive. A greater amount of energy is required from the first three energy centers in order to compensate for the lack of the two.
This can be seen from the following quote:
“RA: The vibratory rates are not to be understood as the same in the positive and negative orientations. They are to be understood as having the power to accept and work with intelligent infinity to a certain degree or intensity.
Neither the blue or green vibratory energies are seen in the vibratory patterns of negative 4th and 5th rates of vibration. On the other hand, the positive entity has the full spectrum of true color time/space vibratory patterns. Each is capable of doing 4th density work. This is the criteria for harvest. “
I don’t think it is really that important to focus on percentages as much as what our intent is. Whatever our intent is, that is what we will accomplish. That’s the beauty of it, if you want to ascend you will, if you don’t you won’t.
Neither is right or wrong but only a choice.
Lastly I would like to say that every moment of experience is the goal of what we are supposed to achieve. We are here to experience the creation of infinity as the creator.
Each moment that every one of us experiences contributes to the whole and is desirable and acceptable. There is no one achievement and ascension is only one of many possibilities. :)
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