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Berry Chastain
07-25-2008, 06:58 AM
for some months now and more consistantly in the last couple of weeks, i have been waking up every night either a few minutes before or a few minutes after 3:00 am. this morning it was exactly 3:00. i will lay awake for a short while and then it is just a light doze until my normal time to get up.
i was just posting this to see if anyone else is experiencing similar things. i have run across mentions of it occuring in some groups but paid little attention to it previously. is this part of the evolutionary process of change?
l&l
berry
illuminata
07-25-2008, 09:39 AM
same thing happening here i feel plunked down in bed at almost exactly 3:00 am every single night, in dallas area too. i often will not go back to sleep and wonder if it is happening to others too. i often just get up to look outside at the stars.
Adam of All
07-25-2008, 10:41 AM
i can't give you anything in the way of an extensive answer, but 3:00 am is what takes the famous name of the witching hour. i've also heard that it's called the witching hour because it is the 12-hour opposite of the supposed time that jesus died.
redbeard
07-25-2008, 03:46 PM
i've noticed, for the last 9 months, that i will gain consciousness a couple of hours before my alarm goes off. same as you i doze until it's time to get up. every once in a while i'll go outside to see if anything's in the sky but no luck. very wierd indeed.
peace and blessings
eyez4096
07-27-2008, 12:20 PM
yeah, but it's usually roosters here in ghana :d i find, however, that it seems to be ~5 hours after my initial sleep that i wake up... with the exception of the roosters, it seems more to be a feature of the sleep/dream cycle than the time of day.....
-charles
beavei
07-27-2008, 08:34 PM
hi berry, yeah same here always around 3ish, everynight. i'm not sure how long for now, maybe 4-6 months. at one stage it became really bad and was considering getting my house or bedroom spiritually cleansed. i did notice though that it became very frequent around the burma cyclone and then another around the time of the china quakes which leaves me thinking its a collective disruption. at one stage i was so sleep deprived i lay in bed and open my eyes to see a cherub sitting on my window cill in the moonlight. wings down around the sides of its feline body glowing in a golden light... haha i have no idea really what it means at all...3am on your side of the globe is different to my 3am or is it?
peace
ian
i've had this 3:00 experience many times over the past months, but not everynight...
i believe i read where dw recommended keeping a dream journal - i've never taken that approach... but, like ian mentions, maybe this occurs due to a disruption or something along those lines?
from now on, i'll at least note what days this happens and try to do a similar correlation to ian...
thanks for starting this thread. when you look around, its nice to see that many members are experiencing similar things. :d
art
1VibrationalEnergy
07-29-2008, 10:44 AM
i too also wake up around around 3:00am almost every night.
i do not know what this means...maybe helping us with dream recognition...
one night at 2:55am, my mind was tingling and my brain was like a reciever of information. too bad it only lasted seconds and i couldnt write down the information fast enough.
**i would love to here all the ideas to why this is occuring**
meganarline
07-30-2008, 03:56 AM
lately i've been waking up not every night but most nights at random times, sometimes it's 1 hour after going to sleep, sometimes it's 3 or 4 or 5 in the morning.sometimes it's two or three times a night. i've been trying to remember my dreams more lately, and i think this is why this is happening.
sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. it would be nice if i could conveniently remember my dreams right before my normal time to get up.
i am finding it hard to be motivated some nights to write my dreams down when i am jarred awake at 3:00 am.
megan
this was happening to me about a year ago when i was living in austin, texas. it happened every night for about 3 months. i found that what was happening was my body was running energy from my feet to my crown while i was sleeping. if you start waking up and your feet are on fire and you are full of energy like you could just get up and run around then it might be the same thing happening to you. supposedly the whole dna / lightbody activation is part of this as process as well. not saying that's what is happening to you, but that was my experience with waking up at the exact same time everynight for many nights on end. look inside to find out what is really going on. you'll figure it out sooner than later.
PriestOfLight
07-30-2008, 12:18 PM
i also wake, but i have wake at 4:44 am and 3:55 often.
if you are trying to figure this out as i have i will meditate before bed and say
"tonight i will have a dream, and i will recognize this as a dream, and will remember this dream perfectly when i wake"
i usually can remember the dream, even if it doesn't make much sense.
cheers!
paul
metaman
07-30-2008, 02:08 PM
3-4 in the mourning is when the consciousness of the people in your immediate vicinity is the most quiet. that makes it the best time to meditate and receive divine inspiration or epiphanies.
Berry Chastain
07-31-2008, 11:31 AM
i knew that i had read something about waking at 3 in the morning. i finally found the material which speaks about this phenomon. i'll quote it here.
"we have spoken before of the 3am club where people begin to awaken at 3am. this is
actually the beginning of a normal sleep pattern that you will experience in the future.
we call it the triad of sleep, where you will generally sleep for three hours, wake for two
and then return to sleep for three more hours. this gives people two hours of
wakefulness that they do not know what to do with. these two hours are very special,
as you are in an enhanced state of creation during these hours. in fact, you are in an
altered dimensional state during these two hours. now the time lag is gone anyway, but
during these two hours, what you hold in your thoughts will become your reality very
quickly. during that special time, allow yourself to hold only those thoughts that add to
you in some way. you have no control over the thoughts that enter your mind. you do
have complete control over which thoughts you allow to stay in your brain. do not worry
about keeping all negative thoughts from your mind. let them go through, as they are a
needed part of your human experience. just know that they can travel through your
mind without attaching, and choose to hold and keep only the thoughts that add to you
in some way—and do not judge yourself for having difficult or negative thoughts.
exercise that control during these two hours of creating.
the new 3am club
understand that during the rewiring process these times and hours may change a lot as
the 3am club becomes the 4:45am club and then back again over the adjustment period
of the next fifty years. in the days ahead there will be people waking at all hours trying
to understand what is happening and thinking that something is “wrong.” that thought
alone can create much difficulty on planet earth. this is a normal process of human
evolution.
vivid and negative dreams:
you will also have very vivid and sometimes negative dreams. some of you will
awaken with nightmares. this is a natural balancing process that balances your
energy. many of you spend your entire day dancing in positive energy, ignoring what
we call the dark side. there is a beautiful dark side to each of you. in that case you
may have an energy-balancing dream where you have a very vivid negative dream
which will simply help to balance your energy. the majority of time you will not
remember these dreams but will awaken with a shaken-up feeling. sometimes you will
remember them and they may shake you. as the rewiring continues, these dreams will
become very special experiences. so if you are having them, rather than questioning
what is wrong, just smile and know that it means you are experiencing enough positive
energy to need balancing in the first place. this balancing has been happening since
the beginning of the game; yet, with this rewiring of humanity going on, these
occurrences may grow more frequent and more dramatic. "
i think that this describes accurately what i and appearantly others here have been experiencing. it is part of the shift in frequency that we are going through. the above excerpt uses the term "rewiring" which is really quite descriptive of the awakening process.
hope you all find this as much of interest as i did.
l&l
berry
boogiepop81
09-07-2008, 09:15 PM
3-4 in the mourning is when the consciousness of the people in your immediate vicinity is the most quiet. that makes it the best time to meditate and receive divine inspiration or epiphanies.
i've read this as well some people stated on yahoo answers, now when i wake up and feel energized i get out of bed write down any dreams i had and then meditate.
FooSnik
09-15-2008, 02:27 PM
this is way off topic but i thought i would throw it in for your amusement. dan akroyd says he woke up in the middle of the night, a few years ago, and had an incredible, unexplainable urge to go outside and look at the sky. he started to do exactly that but his wife calmed him down and got him to go back to sleep. the next day he found out that many, many people in the new jersey area had the same bizarre urge to go outside in the middle of the night. the ones that followed this urge saw an enormous ufo. evidently, this ufo was telepathically contacting earth citizens in order to come see it.
crazy story especially coming from one of my favorite actors. anyway, sorry for taking up space on your thread but i thought you would like that story.
FIIISH
09-17-2008, 07:20 PM
maybe helping us with dream recognition...
i agree with this as well as the thoughts about the
smaller sleep cycles being related to rewiring.
i have been experiencing this and been dealing with it
by taking medication to fall back asleep. perhaps
i will try to meditate and see what happens.
either way, i have been lucid dreaming every night and
my dream recall has been amazing. i have never written
down my dreams before, but i have been able to recall
something substantial for every night for a month now
and am keeping an active log.
litllady
09-19-2008, 08:25 AM
i agree as well with the smaller sleep cycles. some of my most profound dreams came to me when something told me it would be a good time to take a nap. i dont usually nap, but when i did i had dreams of someone trying to show me things. one of the dreams was me in the middle of the earth and someone pointing a old scarab beetle to me, it was all white and only the shell of the beetle was there. i felt the importance was the reminder that we are in shells of material and there was something important about this scarab beetle that left its shell within the earth.
i find that when i sleep over 5 to 6 hours at a time, i rarely remember any dreams.
Destini
10-10-2008, 08:24 AM
this has happen to me as well. however it has stop now. when this event occur things happen to me i am not comfortable discussing at this time. here is one i can mention. each dream is spiritual in nature and in one event i had was told to seek out emanual. still dont know who that is, i have search the web to no avail. i find myself waking up at 3am on the nose. this last for about a month or so. i tell you this much, when i wake up things happen to me. its like they want me to know that it is real and its not my imagination. it was scary to me. sometimes in my dream i actuallyfeel sensations such as cold, wet, and even pain, waking up with the feeling still there. at times i am still afraid to lay down fearing that events will occur again i have yet to find some one who can help me explain what is happening to me. i have notice this trend in all of our dream that we are waking up at the same time. here is a question for you. does anything happen to either of you once awake. please comment
respectfully
destini
Berry Chastain
10-10-2008, 10:47 AM
destini,
first of all the name/word emanual-emmanuel-immanuel is a hebrew word/name meaning god is with us. that alone should give you some comfort and peace. it was also used in the bible as a title for the christ, or the christ spirit. we are all one with the creator and so the instructions to seek emmanuel is telling you to become aware of the oneness of the universe and the creator. perhaps if you were to go to the law of one study guide which david has published on the divine cosmos site and start going through the material it would give you some direction and understanding.
it is possible that the sensations you are feeling are deep seated fears which you have not dealt with. it might be well to consider what thoughts arise when you are feeling these sensations, and then, since you are awake already, take that time to meditate, seek your place of silence and listen to your higher self. you will discover that you will be given peace and direction while finding the quietness within yourself. at the same time you may find what is causing the fearful sensations and balance them with those things which would comfort you in those instances.
i hope this is some help to you,
blessing of love and light to you,
berry
Magical_Mongoose
10-11-2008, 08:37 AM
what matters most are the feelings you have when you wake up...link the feeling to an event in your life that felt the same way. was it a positive or negative event?
Babyblue
10-20-2008, 06:00 AM
3 am is the time when kundalini is most active and also meditation is supposed to be done.
a very sacred time of day and has links in paganism and shamanism also.
try to do some yoga/meditation/prayer at this time and see what happens.
love and blessings bb x x x:d
KassandraLoves
10-20-2008, 09:27 AM
i always wake up in the hour of 5am...
anybody got any insight on that one???
3am awakenings happen, but not as often as the 5am ones do for me...
Jasper
10-20-2008, 01:33 PM
when it gets dark your pineal gland produces dmt rather than melatonin. i assume there is a cut-over between the two. the most active period for dmt production is between midnight and 4am. it is your naturally produced 'out of body' dream chemical, the most psychedelic ever classified.
personally, i wake up about three times a night needing the toilet, but that's just my age!!
i sometimes wonder if certain cheeses magnify the effects of dmt.
Berry Chastain
10-29-2008, 10:16 AM
well, it always used to be around 3 in the morning. about a month ago, i started sleeping completely through the night which was such a pleasant experience. and then......about a week or 10 days ago, my nightly awakening started again but now between 1:30 and 2:30. i have found that during those wee early hours of the morning, my mind is beginning to process some very old issues which i have not thought about for many years. a lot of this is forgiveness work which i thought i had already done. but memory is a strange thing and the conscious mind sometimes tends to tuck uncomfortable memories in the back of the bottom drawer of the chest in the basement closet. i am remembering stuff which has been shielded away for a very long time and which needed to be healed. so i guess this madrugada experience is for a meaningful purpose.
there is another results from this waking. i am discovering that i am having dreams which seem to be more instructive than those when i am waking at a normal time. and i also am able to hold the images for a longer time and to contemplate their meaning. my later dreams are usually very disconnected and without any direction, while those from the early moring have much more coherence though they are no less cryptic.
now, i have had a thought, (uh oh, that's dangerous). i have no astrological skills at all, but i have been wondering if there is not some relationship to the awakening at that early hour, and the relative positions of any particular planets, particularly the outer, slower moving ones since this phenomonon seems to be slow and steady in the way it changes. i also read a day or so ago that this kind occurance may also be a part of the physical evolution process. in either case, i don't seem to be alone in the experiencing of it.
i am grateful for one thing about it. considering the fact that my sleep pattern and amount of sleep i am getting is shortened, i still seem to be getting sufficient rest.
Warriortraveler
10-30-2008, 08:07 PM
i have had numerous experiences around that hour. between 2:30 and 3:00 am has been one of the most active dream times for me. this goes way back to my earlier experiences many years ago too...very interesting
rubbe
11-21-2008, 04:45 PM
most of the time for many years i wake up exactly 3:00 am or 4:00 am
felixnova
12-10-2008, 03:46 AM
it's unbelievable, i woke up this night at 3:30, had a glass of water and sat in an armchair zapping the tv in hope i'd get sleepy again.
a minute later i hear my computer booting up and i think "now what's his problem.. ". there was no problem, the system just decided to boot up by itself. well whatever, everything's possible at this time of the night, i said and decided to sit in and navigate instead. of course i wanted to see what's new on divinecosmos.com, and sure enough one minute later i was reading this thread, still not believing how i got here.
what i've learned here so far has greatly enlarged my field of view, thank you all for your contributions. i've had this 3 am happening to me a lot lately but it never crossed my mind that it would be such a "popular" thing :)
thank you all once again :d
naturaldds
12-10-2008, 08:14 AM
for about a week i have been waking up between 2 and 3 am, and my mind has been down each tunnel of rationalizing before finally asking the question 'why am i waking up in the middle of the night'. that was the key because i now find myself reading this thread.
thanks for all your inquiries. i think together we will bring the answer out (collective mind field channelling?) i feel that this thread will help us collectively focus our inquiry so that as a group we 'ask and we shall recieve'.
i feel compelled to be patient about this and allow us to process the inquiry. i have stopped jumping to conclusions and assuming there was some health issue or something causing it.
i too have also had the inclination lately to intend to remember my dreams. that seems to be a factor in this inquiry as well.
thanks for this thread!
yossarian
12-11-2008, 04:09 AM
here i am again, up at 4am.
i don't know what it is about the middle of the night but everything is so much more peaceful and comforting.
Berry Chastain
12-11-2008, 06:39 AM
i have read from a number of channels which i respect as dependable and resonant, that this 3am club we all seem to be a member of is part of the evolution we are going through. one transmission called it a "rewiring". the idea being that as we go through the shift to 4d we will require less sleep and that that time in which we awake early in the morning is the time in which we are better able to connect to our higher selves, there not being so much psychic chatter due to most other people being sound asleep.
i have now been awakening around that time regularly for near to a year. it has become natural by this point. though i usually attemp to get back to sleep, my deep sleep has been finished at that time and i only lightly doze for the rest of the night. i have also discovered that i remember my dreams better in that period of light sleep after the 3o'clock hour.
with love and light brightening the dark side.
berry
Lordkas
02-01-2009, 03:49 AM
i am doing this as well. i will wake up at around 3 am (2:55 usually). i get up have a drink of soda or tea check my email and generally go back to bed. i have been doing this for around a year now. usually i have had a dream or just feel that there is something i have to do but for the life of me i can't seem to figure out what it is. maybe we are all receiving a spiritual download and are having to process it? that would be my guess.
Mikazo
02-01-2009, 05:45 PM
i find it rather annoying how we often find spontaneous insights to questions or receive important information in a semi-conscious state, but then promptly forget it upon awakening. there must be a very muddy connection between us and our own "higher-ups."
transiten
02-01-2009, 06:27 PM
turned on the computor and went into the forum: 2.55 troubled mind...just want to go to sleep again trying to find some comfort here...
transiten
Deerclan
02-01-2009, 08:59 PM
turned on the computor and went into the forum: 2.55 troubled mind...just want to go to sleep again trying to find some comfort here...
hey transiten, for what it's worth, when i read your post some lines from a song popped into my head. i heard it sung by an old blues singer, i believe it may have been lightnin' hopkins. anyway, it goes like this:
"trouble in mind, i'm blue.
but i won't be blue always
sun's gonna shine in my back door
some day."
lighnin's gone to a better place, but it's almost like i can hear him cackle with that infectious laugh of his & say, "it's gone be awright, baby."
transiten
02-02-2009, 07:29 AM
hi deerclan
i'm actually a singer and have blues on my repertoir also. :)is still shining today and i feel better, even more so with yours and others support:) went through some catalysts recently but the brainwashing i've been naging about every no and then ion the forum was actually 20 years ago but i've never had any proper therapy for that.
since i'm also into the "occult" with astrology, i ching, synchronicity and recently spirituality and mediumshipclasses, it's been impossible to find a therapeut that would not dismiss all that and even referring to it being a sign of my "weakness and proneness to be brainwashed". this forum is somehow therapeutic, but i would need a living person to tell my whole story...
transiten
Blacksunshine
02-02-2009, 09:18 AM
this happens to me at the change of seasons. only i tend to wake between 4 and 4:20 each morning, it will persist for a few weeks then reside to normal sleeping patterns. i have never quite understood what causes this to happen.
cosmic2012
02-02-2009, 01:07 PM
this happens to me every night. i can't say its 3 am on the dot every time but its between 2:30 and 3
Deerclan
02-04-2009, 08:01 AM
transiten:
i'm actually a singer and have blues on my repertoir also. :)
d:
well, i woke up this mornin, i was lyin' in my bed
woke up this mo'nin, i was lyin' in the bed
so i read the "funerals" column, just ta see if i was ....
t:
is still shining today and i feel better, even more so with yours and others support:) went through some catalysts recently but the brainwashing i've been naging about every no and then ion the forum was actually 20 years ago but i've never had any proper therapy for that.
d:
it's good to get therapy for that sort of thing. that thing we call "brainwashing" tends to confuse all kinds of very basic issues, such as how we are like or unlike our parents. it confuses out basic human identity, in other words.
t:
since i'm also into the "occult" with astrology, i ching, synchronicity and recently spirituality and mediumshipclasses, it's been impossible to find a therapeut that would not dismiss all that and even referring to it being a sign of my "weakness and proneness to be brainwashed". this forum is somehow therapeutic, but i would need a living person to tell my whole story...
d:
is there no jungian analyst nearby?? i can understand where traditional therapists might be coming from. i mean, if someone came to me and told me a personal history similar to yours, i think i might also make it a point to avoid transferring the old habit of putting somebody on a pedestal to me. i'm nobody's god, and so i'd rather not be accused of kicking somebody out of their personal garden of eden. :)
if you want to talk, though, i'm willing to listen. talk away. feel free to pm me, if you like -- with this caveat -- i won't be worshiped or put on a pedestal. i've fallen off too many pedestals in the past, and i fell and hurt my ???? that way. :)
transiten
02-04-2009, 11:37 PM
hello deerclan
in earlier threads i've told about the jungian "the-rapist" who tried to seduce me. when i broke away from this i went from ashes to fire when i met the brainwashing guru....
i was actually seeking help from problems i had from a dysfunctional upbringing and was exposed to "incest" by the very person i seeked help from. i later learned that i was not the only client/woman he did this to, but then 10 years had passed and the limit for bringing him to court and i would not have had the energy anyway.
i actually had a therapist after that who confirmed the therapists in gothenburgh knew about this abusive one...why didn't they do anything to stop him then:( he still has his practice:mad:
i have really tried to find someone here in gothenburg. in stockholm though i have been recommended a man at the dharma institute where one of my buddhist mediumshipteachers also works.
i was thinking my therapist had to be mediumistic too, but since i trust my teacher and she works at the same place...by the way dalai lama was at the inauguration of the center. in this very moment i realize this is what i'm going to do....i've been trying to avoid it from the distrust i have for all the not competetnt therapies i've been through..and that's a lot, you wouldn't believe me if i told you the number.....
i've got these "break-up-free-transits" but "breaking up is hard to do" even if one can see it in the heavenly mirror.
thanks for your commitment deerclan. waking up 2.55, going to the computor 7.55 seem to be a connecting principle...
:)from transiten
transiten
02-04-2009, 11:52 PM
as a confirnmation of what i just wrote, i turn on the radio and for the 1:st time there's a psycholgist going to talk to pple directly trying to give them advice in a radio-show. not that i would be one of the clients though:d
transiten
Deerclan
02-05-2009, 10:08 AM
hello deerclan
in earlier threads i've told about the jungian "the-rapist" who tried to seduce me. when i broke away from this i went from ashes to fire when i met the brainwashing guru....
i am deeply saddened. nobody needs the kind of confusion that causes. i applaud you once again for the incredible strength, tenacity, and reslience you have shown in simply remaining sane. at least to the view of the outside world. [wink] plenty of us are nuts on the inside, but have learned how to keep it well hidden -- which is half the battle anyway. :)
i was actually seeking help from problems i had from a dysfunctional upbringing and was exposed to "incest" by the very person i seeked help from. i later learned that i was not the only client/woman he did this to, but then 10 years had passed and the limit for bringing him to court and i would not have had the energy anyway.
good. probably not worth it anyway, since it would have had as much chance of keeping you psychologically tied to him as it would in resolving it. that sort of thing is each person's individual decision, but a long hard life has taught me that walking away is usually the better option than trying to "fix" some wrong that has been done to me, no matter how much damage i feel was done. when i was a young man and spent a lot of time reading the bible, one passage stood out to me and always proved true. it is, "vengeance is mine, saith the lord." you can call it karma, or the collective will of the universe if you like, but i've found that things often even themselves out in the long run far better than i could have ever fixed them. again, i applaud you for your wisdom.
i actually had a therapist after that who confirmed the therapists in gothenburgh knew about this abusive one...why didn't they do anything to stop him then:( he still has his practice:mad:
i hate to say this, but the weight of the evidence i have seen over the years tells me that the collective weight of individuals and institutions leans heavily in the direction of protecting professional caregivers against patients/clients who make complaints. i have even seen a government agency charged with overseeing therapists' ethics to put roadblocks in an individual's way. i do not know why that is, and i have my dim suspicions, but the point is that what you chose fits well with the facts i have seen. i think you avoided more trouble for yourself by leaving it in the past.
i have really tried to find someone here in gothenburg. in stockholm though i have been recommended a man at the dharma institute where one of my buddhist mediumshipteachers also works.
with your past experience, the only thing i can say is to carefully check the credentials of any person you trust to help you. i do not know where to find such information in other countries besides my own, but i feel confident it is there. you may have to hunt to find it, but i think it will likely help you put appropriate trust in a new therapist if you have outside opinion that s/he is trustworthy. the last thing you need is another disappointment.
i was thinking my therapist had to be mediumistic too, but since i trust my teacher and she works at the same place...by the way dalai lama was at the inauguration of the center. in this very moment i realize this is what i'm going to do....i've been trying to avoid it from the distrust i have for all the not competetnt therapies i've been through..and that's a lot, you wouldn't believe me if i told you the number.....
actually i would, transiten. but let's take just a minute and think about the option you are considering. first, it sounds like you won't have to worry about a person from this center disrespecting your legitimate interest in spiritual things. also, i emphasize that this is just my own opinion, but if the dalai lama blessed the place, it's a mark in its favor as far as i am concerned. i am in awe of the spiritual presence i sense around him. i also perceive him as a man with both feet on the ground (sorta like david wilcox in that regard). again this is just my own opinion, but i find it difficult to imagine a destructive person feeling comfortable hanging around working in a place after it was blessed by the dalai lama. i hope i get to meet the man sometime.
i've got these "break-up-free-transits" but "breaking up is hard to do" even if one can see it in the heavenly mirror.
thanks for your commitment deerclan. waking up 2.55, going to the computor 7.55 seem to be a connecting principle...
:)from transiten
transiten, you are one tough, strong, smart person to survive all that you have survived. my blessings go with you in each step that you walk, in shared hopes that we will soon see an end to the destructiveness that you have encountered in your path. may it be so, amen.
with deepest respect,
deerclan
transiten
02-05-2009, 12:30 PM
dearclan...pun intended;)
i can't express in words how thankful i feel for your considerate answers. i will pm you a title of a book that helped me a lot concerning the misuse of spiritual powers. it took some spiritual searhcing before realizing i choose these kind of experiences before reincarnating. i also had the confirmation i met this meditationguru in another life where i was under his spell and commited suicide. now i'm free from this karma. i also misused my occult powers in other incarnations.
transiten
Deerclan
02-05-2009, 02:38 PM
dearclan...pun intended;)i can't express in words how thankful i feel for your considerate answers. i will pm you a title of a book that helped me a lot concerning the misuse of spiritual powers. it took some spiritual searhcing before realizing i choose these kind of experiences before reincarnating. i also had the confirmation i met this meditationguru in another life where i was under his spell and commited suicide. now i'm free from this karma. i also misused my occult powers in other incarnations. transiten
ah!~ beautiful. i wanted to tell you this, but these words are so easily misunderstood. but you already knew it, when you said:
"it took some spiritual searhcing before realizing i choose these kind of experiences before reincarnating."
you're miles ahead of me, youngster. :)
transiten wrote:
"i also misused my occult powers in other incarnations."
so'd i, transiten my child. but that's all over now. we're free. glad you're here. glad you made it through it all. :)
Berry Chastain
02-05-2009, 05:37 PM
all i can say is "bravo" or maybe "brava". i admire you transiten for persisting in finding within yourself the healing which you have found. as paul said, you are way ahead of most of us.
transiten
02-05-2009, 11:44 PM
thanks berry and deerclan
i don't think it's possible to tell who's ahead of whom here....think i've rised above scorpio to eagle though, aspiring for the dove....and deerclan, i'm not a child even if some say i look younger than my 59 years and mercury is the ruler of my chart...but in a way i'm still waiting for my life to begin wondering what on earth my purpose is and what am i supposed to do here?
continuing my course in mediumship though i will try to trust that the spiritual path will clear and even be my profession combined with music and astrology. (i'm a teacher in music and french but gained my living mostly as a political singer and voiceliberationcoach)
the mods have not stopped us from posting in this thread;) well anything could happen or be discussed 03.00 in the morning though at the moment it's8.44 here in gothenburg. at 03.00 swedish time i woke up though...
love from transiten
Deerclan
02-06-2009, 06:39 PM
....and deerclan, i'm not a child even if some say i look younger than my 59 years
so i'm a couple years younger than you, transiten. then why do i feel like your daddy at the moment? [wink]
the mods have not stopped us from posting in this thread;)
that's because i have them all hypnotized, and they don't see this thread. we can do *anything* here!
now back to a [ahem] reality. :) there is a lot of information on this site that seems to be stimulating me to remember things. it's vague and cloudy at the moment, but it seems that it's possibly related to david's story about the 4th density negatives and their role in planetary evolution. i was wondering if you could relate to any of that?
deerclan
transiten
02-09-2009, 02:37 PM
well deerclan you feel like mt dad that's because i really needed someone to take care of me emotionally like a parent during the last week. i reconnected with my 87 year old father after the passing of my stepmother and we now talk every day, but he's not very emotionally developed. very kind but afraid of conflicts. i can feel he's trying to "make it up" for all the lost years and i'm really thankful for that but also fear loosing him soon again because of his age. he lives on the eastcoast and i on the westcoast.
suppose that's what i was signaling and you answered the call. things happen in my life that make me recall the trauma i experienced when i was 4when my biological mother was taken to the mental hospital screaming in the hallway. my stepsister has severe lungcancer and will not live for long and i just lost a friend who had a stroke 2 weeks ago.
several of my friends live in destructive relationships or without anyone close to love. today my neighbour, an alcoholic, forgot to shut off the stove, fell asleep and didn't wake up in spite of the alarm. if i had not been home he might have been dead. a couple downstairs quarrel and scream.
and all the same i feel fine at the moment. the son of a friend of mine is 10 years today and his parents managed to have a birthdayparty without showing their usual irritation towards eachother.
look forward not to wake up at 3.00 am
goodnight from trasnsiten and thanks again for your concern
Deerclan
02-11-2009, 11:13 AM
well, transiten, here's kinda how i see that sort of thing. in some ways, we two-leggeds are like ducks. you know how baby ducks see something moving, and it "imprints" in their minds like their mama? i guess you've heard the weird stories about ducklings hatching and by chance happening to see something else moving besides their mama? they end up following people around, or dogs, or chickens, or lawn mowers, all the time "believing" they are following their momma duck.
well, we are a little bit like those ducklings. if we are exposed to fear and fear-based behavior at a certain young age, we "imprint" on that more or less, and mistake fear for love from that point on. we need somebody to "imprint" on who has chosen to embrace love over fear, and then once we see it clearly and get it firmly in our mind's eye, then we've "got it." from that point on we are able to begin acting in a loving way, rather than a fear-based way, towards ourselves and others.
what i'm seeing here is that maybe you have not yet gotten a totally clear picture in your mind as to what it looks like to treat yourself in a loving way. lot's of other people have that same problem too, so don't worry that it makes you an outsider. :) so if it's possible for me to be your "daddy" just long enough that you can get a clear mental picture of what it looks & feels like to choose love over fear, then you're welcome to it! i'm glad to serve as your temporary papa, under the condition that i want you to get serious about learning to love yourself, ok? who knows? you might even be able to show your own real life father a better way. wouldn't that be fantastic, transtiten?
for the record, i see you as a fantastic "kid." :) so go love yourself, ok? then remember that you truly deserve it. :)
thanks, transiten.
paul
transiten
02-11-2009, 12:05 PM
:d
guess what i just watched this morning?????????????????????????????????
correct! a pitbull and a cat acting parents to a bunch of chickens, and they all enjoyed it. it's the bible prophecy come true, the lion and the lamb will lie together...
my closest friend my shorthaired collie passo has an injured leg that got worse today....send him some healing and loving thoughts too...
thankyou for being my extra-dad in spite of being some 8 years younger;)
transiten suffering from hubris/selfdenial and persecutioncomplex at the moment.
aqcheryl
04-12-2009, 01:41 PM
i was wondering if anyone else has been noticing a change in their sleep patterns? such as sleeping longer, tired more often, and not wanting to wake up?
i have had this happening at a strong progression for over a year now... i cannot sleep less than eight hours - if i wake up sooner, i am physically ill all day, and its mainly migraines, and uneasy stomach.
it is easy for me to clock 10 hours a day, and sometimes even 12. i realize that some people dont have the time to let their bodies dictate how much sleep they need due to work and family but for those times you do have it... it seems generic across the board, we sleep in.
for a long time, i was thinking that i must have some tumor or cancer or some kind of disease causing this in me, and i was fearing that even as i felt knowledge within telling me i dont.
then several weeks ago i stumbled across an indigo page describing this sleep scenario as part of the trait. especially the not wanting to wake up part. i have vivid recollections of at least three times having to argue with myself to wake up. one time i even remember telling myself i have to get up because i still have a job to do here. now, this isnt like a near death experience, instead more of a... choosing to stay in that higher realm instead of coming back. the other thing is its been happening in unison with my spiritual progression. ever since i left my 9-5 job i had time to work on my spiritual journey... so it does seem to be going hand in hand.
when i read this i felt relief but it didnt go into details, it was just a one line characteristic.
and im thinking it applies to all of us actually, for the most part. im thinking our bodies are already beginning to restructure? do you guys think thats possible?
because theres another thread on here where it mentions when we go through the transition we are supposed to start to build an intolerance to certain foods, and what you were able to have yesterday you suddenly cant have today - it can be instantaneous. ive been experiencing this as well as the physical effects from shortened sleep.
so actually its more these three questions:
1) have you guys notice subtle changes in your body already - be it diet or sleep, or even actually feeling energy in your body when you never felt it before.
2) why do you all think we are having the sleep issue? is it part of physical restructuring or do you think maybe instead its that we are already nearing the end of this lesson, and so we are basically crash studying before the 'exam'? hehe i know its supposed to be happening and can happen before 2012 i just wonder if the sleep is a sign of it...
3) if above statement is true, then would this kind of mean we have to slow down in order to speed up? (e.g. i read 4d moves at a faster speed then 3d...each dimension does... and yet we also need to slow ourselves down to let information come to us, and find inner peace etc)
johnasmodeus
04-13-2009, 10:49 PM
i've been waking up around four every night recently. i'm pretty sure it has some connection to my getting much more serious about recording my dreams. i bought this great little used notebook, wiped windows off of it and installed ubuntu linux. i love it. every night i fire up gedit and type in the date. then i save the document with a filename like "2009.04.13.txt" in my "dreams" folder and shut the lid, putting the machine to sleep.
i put the thing right in front of my pillow (i sleep on tatami mats on the floor), so when i wake up i don't even have to sit up! just roll over, open the lid halfway and type, opening the screen only halfway so that it illuminates the keyboard (i don't even look at the screen while i type. i can always edit later)
my dreams are already becoming more vivid and memorable. last night i even got some audio as i was falling back to sleep. just one word - the name "joshua" as if spoken over a tinny hospital intercom. strange. but i'm looking forward to more.
Katarina57
04-14-2009, 07:01 AM
i was wondering if anyone else has been noticing a change in their sleep patterns? such as sleeping longer, tired more often, and not wanting to wake up?
so actually its more these three questions:
1) have you guys notice subtle changes in your body already - be it diet or sleep, or even actually feeling energy in your body when you never felt it before.
2) why do you all think we are having the sleep issue? is it part of physical restructuring or do you think maybe instead its that we are already nearing the end of this lesson, and so we are basically crash studying before the 'exam'? hehe i know its supposed to be happening and can happen before 2012 i just wonder if the sleep is a sign of it...
3) if above statement is true, then would this kind of mean we have to slow down in order to speed up? (e.g. i read 4d moves at a faster speed then 3d...each dimension does... and yet we also need to slow ourselves down to let information come to us, and find inner peace etc)
i have been experiencing alot of irregularities with sleep..and not just me, my brother and one of my daughters as well have both been experiencing the same, and within the same time frame.i dont know why i am always *surprised when they tell me...although that surprise feels like a giggle
it has been very difficult to get out of bed..it feels like..i like where i am ..and dont want to be in my *waking* world even though i am insanely curious still (since i was a child) about life, people..and finding answers.(and enjoy this process that is me on earth) i dont remember alot of my dreams, but in many, the places are recurring and i am often scattered all over the place..but yet it feels..well more natural to me to be there. a couple of weeks ago..i went through what i thought was a deep depression ..this is so not my personality..quite the opposite, but i did not want to get out of bed..and i seriously was having a hard time relating to anything upon opening my eyes..i attributed it at the time to having quite my bad habit of smoking, but it had been 4 months since i had quit..i did end up smoking after a long crying jag ..and the next day the deep depression had left..but there was this lingering feeling to want to sleep...and nap..or just blow off work..to meditate..i feel like there is something i am to know right this second..but there is not enough time and too many distractions in my waking state to know it.
i have had an amazing history in this earth 3d reality and so much other stuff is going on with me..and also my immediate family (i feel its all good, though for some its very disconcerting), but i just wanted to address the sleep issue. in regard to my daughter..she is having vivid dreams and is constantly tired..and waking in the night..she is an extreme empathetic and at 24 takes on the problems of every human and animal that she draws into her life. my brother is feeling almost exactly like me..not wanting to wake..but some of it he attributes to illness (he is very ill) and chemtrails..bad water ect..and fluctuates from almost pure light to deep negativity..
i am curious about the family dynamic of this..my oldest daughter is totally different from us at this time ..though as a young child showed alot of the same family *traits*...theres alot more to all this..but i am running to beat a clock with work argh! (as seems to be the case everyday now) so will try to put more of this into the appropriate threads when i catch that time..lol..:eek:
Skyline45
04-14-2009, 07:18 AM
my first time i remembered audio it was a name also. but its a name that doesn make sense. "pitco" was the name. i researched it and nothing came up. i mean some bull **** companies came up but no name. and the weird thing is after the guy told me his name he just kept smiling at me and he was in like this black suv in a really small town. the town kinda reminded me of the town in the show "eureka". theres more but that another story lol but maybe names like that mean something? has anyone else gotten names for their first time remembering audio?
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