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ds37ds
07-24-2008, 02:42 AM
I"m fairly new to the Ra material and have been reading sections of it here and there. Yesterday, I started from Section 1 and went right through to Section 7 where I had to stop and think hard. Is it my imagination that as the work progresses, it gets denser in vibration and light?
Quote - Section 2/10:
Ra: In truth there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex with which you amuse yourself. This belief in polarity is chosen instead of understanding the complete unity of thought that binds things together.
Now I can get my head around the truth that there is no polarity, that we choose to believe that polarity exists and choose a polarity rather than choose to understand that everything is bound together in unity and is one.
This truth comes from a high or pure vibration that I can understand.
When we get to Section 7/43-45, the entire channeling has a negative vibration or quality about it. I understand that Karla was under psychic attack at the time. Could this have influenced the entire group because I have the distinct impression that the questions asked were of a negative orientation. What an in-depth analysis of negativity! Polarities, choosing a polarity, doing this or doing that means you're veering towards negative polarity. To my mind, this particular channeling was an example of the separation of the one with a complete swing towards negativity. I don't want to sound judgemental but I think the questions could have been structured better and steered in way that would help an adept understand the nature of negativity rather than being so absolute and dogmatic. I got the impression that we should always be watching our backs for every mistake or wrong choice we may make because it would mean we're on the wrong side of the fence.
I imagine that the channelings stopped right after this stage. Is this so?
love
ds
Silvanus Sanctus Germanus
07-25-2008, 06:30 AM
It's all about catalyst and the deep longing for higher understanding, for example some entities choose to step down a density or two in order to re-crystalize their chakras and take full advantage of 3rd density polarity. Polarity adds to the experience by giving us a quick response time, for those who have a thurst for learning may take advantage of polarity to fast track through the thick of it and arive alive with a fresh perspective allowing entities to raise their level of self satisfaction. Polarity offers a choice as to which path an entity prefers to learn the lessons of Love.
I got the impression that we should always be watching our backs for every mistake or wrong choice we may make because it would mean we're on the wrong side of the fence.
IMHO their is no wrong side, just how long you spend there, how much attention do you devote to service to self compared to service to others, this does not mean that service to self is bad or wrong, it is simply a choice of beingness. Without polarity nothing in our current illusion could be supported, polarity, duality, the expansion and contraction of intelligent infinity.
Now I can get my head around the truth that there is no polarity, that we choose to believe that polarity exists and choose a polarity rather than choose to understand that everything is bound together in unity and is one.
The understanding of unity is approached in detail in 6th density and the depth of understanding directly reflects the depth at which we explore polarity in 3rd, 4th and 5th density. The illusion of time is sort of a stalling mechanism giving us a chronological way of piercing through the veil one lesson at a time. It seems that polarity and time are safeguards giving us free will to explore on our own terms..................................Sylvain.... ............................
Keith
07-25-2008, 12:56 PM
Hi ds,
I hope you had a great time reading the books.
Is it my imagination that as the work progresses, it gets denser in vibration and light?
Personally, I didn't notice it. But it think it's an interesting insight.
"Polarities, choosing a polarity, doing this or doing that means you're veering towards negative polarity."
I don't understand why do you say this, would you like to elaborate?
Before the veiling, "everyone" knows that All is one, thus service-to-self is a "joke and impossible" because everyone knows self=others. After the veiling, this fact is hidden from us, and the concept of service-to-self and thus polarity becomes possible. It's my opinion that we do not have the ability in third density to understand and perceive unity and its concept in its purer sense. One reason I came to this conclusion was that I once thought i knew what service-to-self(negativity) as a part of unity meant, until i encountered negative (non-physical) entities whose "negativity was beyond my imagination" and thus what i understand of unity is very limited.
Ra: In truth there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex with which you amuse yourself. This belief in polarity is chosen instead of understanding the complete unity of thought that binds things together.
Ra's original sentence was " It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things.", which i think meant we (need to) choose a polarity because while it takes a longer and tougher journey to learn unity, we will treasure and understand unity much more after achieving it.
ds37ds
07-26-2008, 03:08 PM
It seems there's a difference in our quotes because I've been reading another source and it appears that someone has added extra information or their own interpretation to the material. Nevertheless concerning the Ra quote that I used and the original which is:
"It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought that binds all things"
I still interpret it in the same way. One of the alternatives we have is to undertand the complete unity of thought which binds all things.
We however choose the other alternative.
We are not told that we are made to make a choice at this stage but that we make the choice because we can't understand the alternative.
This is something we understand on an intellectual level or as a concept rather than than the actual "being" of oneness due to our being in such a low density at the moment.
As we move into the lower densities, it is understood that we must make the choice at some point. This is natural as the separation and duality must exist for us to experience these aspects of the one.
What I meant about "polarity, choosing a polarity, doing this or that means you're veering towards negative polarity" is that the material made me think about how tis applies to me on a personal level or my life if you will. But that's what it's all about anyway - examining yourself and seeing where you're at.
I spent a long time thinking about questions 43-45 from section 7 and came to the understanding tht the questions themselves are all about the nature of negativity and how we steer ourselves in that direction. One of the questions that caught my attention was:
"What does a 5th density negative look like?"
Now why would anyone wnt to know what a NEGATIVE 5th density being looked like when he doesn't know what ANY 5th density entity looks like.
RA of course says:
"5th density beings are very light beings although they do have a type of physical vehicle which you understand."
Throughout this line of questioning, Ra seems to be filtering out the negativity and remains positive or truthful.
Then something strange happened. While thinking about what a cool dude Ra is, I got this intense love energy hit that started from my heart, went up to my head and back down through my whole body for a couple of minutes. I was kind of love-struck for the rest of the day and woke up this morning with a hangover.
love
ds
Keith
07-27-2008, 12:24 AM
Personally, I'm checking the quotes using L/L's pdf version of the books since it's faster: http://www.llresearch.org/library/the_law_of_one_pdf/the_law_of_one_pdf.aspx
I still interpret it in the same way. One of the alternatives we have is to undertand the complete unity of thought which binds all things.
We however choose the other alternative.
We are not told that we are made to make a choice at this stage but that we make the choice because we can't understand the alternative.
This is something we understand on an intellectual level or as a concept rather than than the actual "being" of oneness due to our being in such a low density at the moment.
As we move into the lower densities, it is understood that we must make the choice at some point. This is natural as the separation and duality must exist for us to experience these aspects of the one.
Of the two polarity, I think the positive polarity is closer to the concept of unity, though there are some difference between the two. So in a sense, to choose to begin to understand unity is to choose the positive polarity.
I believe the only "complete unity" is in the 7th-8th density. The first 6 densities are for us to accumulate our experience and understanding of what unity is. I think "All is one" may be a simple statement but it has probably an infinite amount of details.
"What I meant about "polarity, choosing a polarity, doing this or that means you're veering towards negative polarity" is that the material made me think about how tis applies to me on a personal level or my life if you will. But that's what it's all about anyway - examining yourself and seeing where you're at."
Yes, i think i can roughly understand what you are getting at.
""What does a 5th density negative look like?""
I couldn't find any such question in the pdfs, the closest i found was, which i think sounded more "neutral":
Book: 3 Session: 62
QUESTIONER: When the Orion entity who waits us seeking the opportunity to attack is with us here can you describe his method of coming here, what he looks like, and what his signs are? I know that this isn't too important, but it might give me a little insight into what we are talking about.
RA: I am Ra. Fifth-density entities are very light beings although they do have the type of physical vehicle which you understand. Fifth-density entities are very fair to look upon in your standard of beauty.The thought is what is sent for a fifth-density entity is likely to have mastered this technique or discipline. There is little or no means of perceiving such an entity, for unlike fourth-density negative entities the fifth-density entity walks with light feet.This instrument was aware of extreme coldness in the past diurnal cycle and spent much more time than your normal attitudes would imagine to be appropriate in what seemed to each of you an extremely warm climate. This was not perceived by the instrument, but the drop in subjective temperature is a sign of presence of a negative or nonpositive or draining entity.This instrument did mention a feeling of discomfort but was nourished by this group and was able to dismiss it. Had it not been for a random mishap, all would have been well, for you have learned to live in love and light and do not neglect to remember the One Infinite Creator.
Then something strange happened. While thinking about what a cool dude Ra is, I got this intense love energy hit that started from my heart, went up to my head and back down through my whole body for a couple of minutes. I was kind of love-struck for the rest of the day and woke up this morning with a hangover.
I think that's a nice experience. My guess would be that you are clearing your energy centers, receiving some energy or something like that.
I had similar experiences sometimes when meditating when I would feel intense energy throughout my body. It would last a few minutes and gradually fade for the rest of the day.
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