Standing at the gate of heaven

[litllady]

hello to all,

i have alot of things to share with you all and let me say first, i am very honored to do so. i could of posted this with the 'nurse wrote a book on near death experiences', but i feel this deserves its own thread. what i am going to share with you all is very precious to me, its nothing less then a gem.

some of you may know from past posts that my mother has been sick a long time and her and i have been exploring great things with our spirituality together. a couple weeks ago she had a very bad slip back in her health. ive been sitting with her in the hospital every day. she is doing a little better now but she has a long way to go-first, let me ask you all to keep her in your thoughts and my family also-her name is pam.

on friday, june 20th, my mother was slipping from us on and off all day. she was barely conscious, she would come to for a few mins and slip back away from us on and off all day. it seemed that she was seeing things when she would slip away, her face expressions and even sometimes she would make hand movements, like she was seeing things. finally, i asked her, "mom, are you seeing things?" she came to for a moment, looked at me, smiled at me, and said "yes".

throughout the rest of the day, my mother shared with me what she was seeing. at first i was asking her questions because it seemed to be the only topic of interests to her to wake up enough to show she was still with us. i wish you all could of seen her eyes and expressions when she would tell me things because the truth was in her eyes. ok, so lets get on with the story!

after a while, i realized that my mom was telling me so many things, that i should write some of it down. the only thing i had to write on handy was my bible, i opened it to the back where i had space to jot things down and ended up filling up two full pages of things my mother saw that day. i'm going to relay these things in little quotes and jotted notes, but honestly, it wont do the story justice because like i said, the truth was in her eyes.

"mom, what do you see?"-"i see angels lynette, and cherubs, oh lynette, you just wouldn't believe how beautiful everything is!" (she would only stay alert a couple mins. after each time she told me something)

"mom, are you still seeing things?"-"oh yes"-
"what do you see mom?"-"i'm in my hut"
"your hut?"-"oh yeah, my mom is there with me and craig too(her mother is passed and craig is my brother who is passed)
"is there just one hut mom?"-"oh no, everyone has a hut, oh lynette, i see everyone (she went through a list of names)-then she drifted off again. i could tell when she was having a vision.

"mom, what are you doing now?"-"oh, im eating fruit from that tree, oh lynette, its the best fruit ive ever had."-joking i asked her "is it a fig mom?"-she laughed, then thought for a min. "well i dont know, it could be, it has a different fruit in the center of it, its just so wonderful."

"mom, are you still seeing things."-she looked at me and nodded 'yes'-"what do you see mom?"-i'm walking around, you can go anywhere, everyone is preparing for a feast...its like a perfect community, everyone is helping, everyone has a job, everyone keeps asking me 'when did you get here?', its so strange, some have computers, like pocket books, not everyone needs you, but for some its necessary"-i said"computers? that is strange, i wonder what computers are doing in there?" she said-"well they are for the people that must keep up with all the information"

"mom, do you see things in the room with you?"_oh yes, there are 2 angels over here by me (at her left side) and there are cherubs here." she pointed over by me "there are 3 cherubs right above you, and lynette they are just the cutest things ive ever seen, they are chubby and have little paws with sharp little claws" i asked her "do they talk to you mom?"-"oh no, they talk to each other, but they don't want to talk to me, they aren't supposed to talk to us."- i then asked her "what do is the cherubs job?"-she said" they are supposed to find truth and protect it."

"mom, are you still seeing things."-"oh yes"-"mom, what do you see?"-(she looked a little discouraged or confused)"i'm in a room, he(she was not clear on who 'he' was) is telling me, 'ya know you still have things to work on' and i told him, yes, i know i do, the cherubs are trying to help me understand."

"mom, are you ok, are the angels still with you?"-"oh yes, lynette, i am never alone, i can go anywhere, and i am never alone." "oh man lynette, we have so much to research, we have to go to egypt, did i tell you i went there?"-"no, you didn't tell me that, do you mean you just went there?"-"oh yeah, it was so awesome, and you know what, you know the sphinx, people are right, there is something there, its under the head, so much history is there."

"mom, are you still seeing things?"-she nodded 'yes' and smiled "its just the most wonderful place lynette, i see the throne and the kingdom, we all are going to have a feast at the kingdom"-"what else do you see mom?"-"i see jesus, he is sitting under that olive tree, all the children are with him, he just loves on them and tells them how much they are loved. he blesses their heads with the olive oil. he told me he knows ive had a really hard life, and he just hugged on me and told me how much i was loved."

"are you still at the kingdom mom?"-"i dont know, i am at a field with jesus, there are many different people, there is blood all over the field and we must clean it up." "i dont like it here" " i see something that scares me lynette"-"what is it mom?"-"its a beautiful woman, she is so beautiful, she is on a white horse, she has white hair, she is naked, she is frightening."

"mom, are you still with us?"-she nodded yes-"are you still seeing things mom?" -she smiled, "yes, i am back at my hut with craig, lynette he looks just as he did, he died, he still is a kid, we are playing games."

(she told me alot of misc. things about my family that was passed and things they said, even jokes they were making. once she looked as though she was talking to the cherubs in the room and told them "no, now dont you go making trouble you little sneaks"-she told me so many things i cant hardly put them all on here)

her hands went up in the air, like she was going towards something-"mom, what do you see?" -its a huge tree, its moving, i want to climb it"-"can you climb it mom?" -"oh yes, its so strange lynette, its full of these little guys, like the little hobbits ya know, but they aren't hobbits."-what else do you see mom?"-"there are deep holes in the tree, its so strange lynette, they are so deep and smooth and soft."

"mom, you keep slipping away from me, can you stay here with me mom?"-"yes, i told the angels i cant stay, i'm trying to stay with you lynette."-"mom, i need to know if you want the doctors to do what ever they can, because you are having a really hard time breathing mom."-"oh yes, i'm getting scared lynette, because i do want to stay."

"what are you seeing mom?"-"i see elijah, he came here to see me"-"how do you know its elijah mom?"-"well you just know i guess, he can fly in the air, i asked him how he does that (she laughed)and he said its his secret (like he was joking back with her)..."elijah has the ark, he is the one who carries it"

"mom, are you still seeing things"-"yes, i see abraham, we are in a room, its open in the east"-"is it open for a reason mom?"-"yes, (she nodded very firmly), its open because the baby has been born a levi"

"mom, your slipping away from me, can you stay with me?"-" i know lynette, i am trying. its so hard, its just so beautiful, i cant help but to look at it all."

about this time, the nurse came in to give her a shot to spunk her up a little, to try to get her to stay alert. she perked up a good 30 mins. i asked her if she remembered telling me things. she smiled and said "lynette, you are blessed to witness what i am seeing, i want you to know something, everyone you every come across in life and everyone that comes across you in life, we all have to stand up for or stand up against everyone, its all up to us, we decide the weight of peoples doing, ever things you do to another, that person will have to stand for you or against you in the kingdom. and lynette, i dont understand what happened with the garden of eden, its really really sad, it wasn't fair, it wasn't fair (she was very sad about this)"

i was asking some questions about souls and destiny and the end of things on the earth...she has a look like she was listening to someone, and told me this with a smile...."i have to be careful lynette, for some things you are not supposed to know."-we smiled at eachother-she asked me to come to her, so i did, she pulled me down close to her, kissed my forehead, then layed her hand on my head, and blessed me in the name of jesus and the kingdom of heaven...she then reminded me again, i was a witness and i must choose wisely who i talk with about things, because i would be making them a witness also.-she paused and laughed and said, "but someone might have to build another ark"

the medicine started wearing off, she began seeing things again. "mom, what are you seeing now?"-"im in my hut, did you know there are palm trees that circle ever hut and you can make them grow fast if you want to or let them grow slow, they are yours to do with what you want."

she was really slipping now-my father asked her if she was still seeing things-
"i'm with michael"-"who's michael?" asked my dad...."he is my angel, he doesn't want me to go to the other side of the river." she slipped off again-

she came to one more time-"mom, where are you now?"-i am at the gate."

after this, my mother was unconscious for 2 days. yesterday she began coming to, looking at us, nodding her head saying she could see us and hear us. she is in critical care unit, they are keeping really good care of her. things are sill very critical, but i think she is defiantly buying some time. i haven't asked her anymore questions. the reason we kept asking her these kind of questions is because it was the only thing that interested her enough to come to and look at us and show any interests in this world. i am over whelmed with this experience, but i hold it dear to my heart. i have debated with myself about sharing this, but i feel that god knew that i would share it. to anyone who reads this, i feel this information is protected by the holy spirit, for those who can understand it will, for those who don't understand it they should not worry themselves with any of these visions. i don't need responses, for i am only humbled. if you want to respond though, that is ok too. there was alot of personal things i left out of this post because it is just too much info. that i feel was more about our family and things like that. i am sharing the things that i feel would interests the majority of the readers here. i truly feel like i was a witness to my mother standing at the gate of heaven. i am nothing more or less then honored and blessed to share this with you all.

peace to all and god bless every single reader who reads this,
lynette

we still need prayers and positive thoughts! please keep her in your hearts.

[DJDeeZe]

thank you for sharing your story with us lynette. i enjoyed reading it very much...:o

peace,
(:-deeze

[kac527]

wow lynette,,,
thank you so much for sharing that beautiful and overwhelming experience with us. it means so much to me for several reasons. first of all, my friend megan (you all know her as meganarline here at dc) sent me an email back in february or march highly suggesting i listen to a radio interview that george noory did with a hospice doctor from tx who has helped thousands of people make the transition from this life into the next. dr. john lerma is his name and he's written a book called "into the light" and it changed my life! each chapter is a different story about a person's "pre-death" experience (note: i'm not believing that your mother will die!) and communications with angels and loved ones who had passed. now these aren't near death experiences or out of body experiences, but pre-death and the patients were very much awake and alert and aware of what was being shown to them. the stories are of children, men, women, young, old, jewish, protestant, catholic, agnostic, atheist, all walks of life... but they all had similar experiences, beautiful experiences like your mother described. it took away all of the fear i had left in me about death and dying. my own mother died when i was just 20 years old and believe it or not, all of these years i've been thinking that she was not able to hear me or see me or communicate with me in any way. until i read this book i really believed that, but no longer. i talk to her all of the time now and i've even felt her presence on occassion, it's a beautiful and peaceful feeling and very comforting :) as i mentioned, this book changed my life and your story just made it all that much more real for me. i sincerely hope that you will continue to share with us lynette. i will be keeping your mother in my prayers and thoughts and have faith that she will recover fully to complete her "assignment" here on earth. the two of you are going to have a marvelous time weaving what you've learned from this into your spiritual journies. i'm so excited for you.

love and blessings to you,
kelly

[litllady]

hello to all,

you all are very welcome...i really do feel like i was allowed to experience this through my mother to share it.

last night i sat down i tried to write everything down as well as i could. already the details of specific words she said are slipping from me.

i spent most of the night looking things up that might help me understand some of the things she saw. something i almost forgot about was during one of the last times she was somewhat alert-she popped her eyes open and asked me what day it was, i told her it was friday. she then asked what time it was, i told her it was a little after 5pm (for the life of me i cant remember the exact time that i told her it was-either 5:23 or 5:33, i cant remember. i then told her it was also the night of the summer solstice...at least according to the earthsky website (some websites say the summer solstice was saturday). anyways, for whatever reason, she nodded her head like 'i thought so'....ironic it is to me that she went unconscious on a friday, slept for 3 nights, then came back to us. course many things could be a happenstance as well. im trying not to analyze things, im trying to just be patient and let the light lead the way.

i also want to note, there were 2 witnesses. my father witnessed almost everything. there was one time he left the room for like 20 mins....but other then that, there were 2 witnesses. i felt there was a reason for this. also, my dad has never been a big 'faith' person. but ya know what :) its all we talk about here lately. i also want to say, by brother claims to of had a out of body experience that took him to see my mom on sunday night. he said these lights came to him...he asked them if they could take him to where his mom was...he said that their vibration dimmed and he took that as a definite 'no'...so he asked them if they could take him to a place in between, and they lit up like a 'yes'. he said he was shown a tunnel, and my brother that has passed, craig, was there, telling him to come on. he says once he reached my brother, they kinda became 'one', then he was standing by moms bedside. he says he told her that he knows there is great sunshine where she is, but told her to remember, 'there is still sunshine here too'. he says she came to for a min. and looked at him and said 'my sunshine'. wow, ya know, there just arent words.

i understand to some this is just hallucination's. that is ok! but for me, i cant just shrug this off as nothing. its all too amazing.

i also remember asking my mom if she thoughts we had many lives....she nodded her head yes. does that mean that this is a fact. no, it doesn't, but it is a fact that she has been a christian all of her life, and now thinks we have many lives.

its not for me to analyze the dream my brother had, but i did ask him if i could share it with my 'group' (he knows all about this forum and knows i share things here that are very personal). but, how strange it is to me, that him and my elder brother became 'one'.

could my moms vision be 'her' heaven, will we each have different visions? ya know, i have thought so much about this. we have believers in christ, we have soul groups that came to this planet, i just dont know how the puzzle pieces fit together. me, i guess i am of this planet, i feel like a wanderer, but i dont think im a wander from afar. i thought i wasn't 'meek' but i guess i am. i thought that it wasn't true that 'some' inherit the earth, now i think different. it took me a while to understand that 'meek' doesn't mean 'weak'. my dictionary says 'meek' means spiritless, so ive decided that my dictionary is wrong:) i think meek means to let ever experience humble you.

sorry for my grammar and bad spelling-its a weakness of mine.

peace to all,
lynette

[kilork]

wow lynette,
thank you so much for sharing! i send love and light to you and yours....
i would like to comment on a couple things that really resonated with me.
i will preface this by sayingi had an out of body experience at 10 years old, i have always known about the truth of god and the way things all worked. i just didn't know how to describe it. i was eager to share all this as a child which was not acceptable. i have spent years trying to shake the feeling of having to hide all this. i am getting better...lol
i must tell you about the sphinx, lillith says it is where her one mortal body is entombed, i believe the woman on the white horse is lillith. i believe lillith is the holy spirit. jesus tells us these things in the bible and the lost books also reinforce this.
your mothers comment about the garden of eden touched another nerve. she has validated for me things i have seen felt and known. thank you for sharing!
i feel as though i should apologize, more of that childhood thing going on, i feel as though folks need to know these things. it makes it all so clear when you see the truth.

[transiten]

hello litllady

personal experience is what it takes to become a believer, i'm eager to hear more from you and how it all enfolds...

sunny greetings from liliane in gothenburg

[Deambor]

lynette, sending you and your mother and all of your family love.

this is so beautiful experience that you have the courage to share, for which i'm grateful. this is also a great powerful thing that your mother is able to do: to bring you and all us into this experience.

love
deambor

[transiten]

hi littlady

why do you think your mother was scared by the woman on the horse? if it was lilith...i think she has been unfairly judged....
she didn't want to submit herself to a man, that was her "sin"...

liliane

[Bill]

lynette,

thank you, so much, for sharing. i was moved at hearing your story, and both your and your mom's experiences. i have a feeling she is not concerned about the outcome, but is getting a chance to experience what we all wonder about, but in a live 3d experience.

my best to you and your family, and thank you for sharing that.

bill

[litllady]

hello to all,

thanks for the courage and thoughts and love! i feel it! ive been up here at the hospital all day, they only let me visit 30 mins. at a time, then i have 3 hours before i can go visit again, its so hard to leave her every time. today they took out her breathing tube, she is having some troubles with out it but honestly im surprised she is still fighting, i dont know if i would be so brave to stay and fight. ide like to think i would be, but its so scary. i told my mom today that people are praying for her from many different places in the world. she gleamed with a smile and had a few tears because this touched her so. in between my visits i can read or they have compuuters here, so what do ya know, i can come to my home away from home(dc).

about the horse, i do remember my mother saying the word 'death' when talking about the horse. i wish i knew exactly her qoutes, my paraphrasing was written a couple hours after her first vision. i am not saying that she thoughts the horse or the woman 'was' death, but she did associate the two things with eachother. lets say it could be lilith, like the suggestion, if so, then mabey lilith has the job to usher souls into the 'other side' weather they are positive or negative. mabey the lady on the horse is there 'just in case'. out of my own curiousties, i searched this topic last night. the thoughts that came to me were one of the 4 horse men. now, this is just a thought, no way to know. pluto is in opposition, not sure what that means, but pluto is known to be the 4th horseman. again, im not analyzing, but just passing through thoughts and ideas.

whatever is gods will, may it be-i felt so guilty when we hooked mom up on machines. i felt like i was pulling her back from a place that is better then here. i have to remind myself, this is her wish, this is what she wanting. im not saying i was ready to just let my mom go, im not....but to see her still struggling and to know she has such a fight on her hands, i just want her to have peace.

what she is up against-my mother has had a wound on her leg with staph for a long time. its not the normal staph, its the one that is pretty much resistent to antibiotics. we found out today its in her lungs. this is where her biggest battle will be. send her love, say her name(pamela), i believe in the power of these things and so does she.
thank you for being here for her! mabey one day soon she will be able to come on here and thank you all herself.

peace to all,
lynette

[AllyKat]

hi lynette!!

i've been sending you and your mom love n light...when i read your story it really touched my heart i know that sounds corny lol but i mean that in all sincerity it brought tears to my eyes. i think everyone who has read this post was deeply touched. its amazing because all this info your mom is giving us resonates with me but i'm not sure why. i tend to analyze things too much and am trying to balance that with my heart :)

when my grandpa was getting ready to pass a number of years ago, we went through a similar experience. the hospice nurse that was taking care of him said he was having visions, although i didnt witness them first hand. he was speaking of my grandma who has already passed. he said they were dancing together in paris :) it seems these experiences are the norm for those who have nde's or those who are getting ready to pass on. i have so many questions but like i said am trying to stay balanced. "over thinking, over analyzing seperates the body from the mind"- tool. the fact that these experiences being brought out into the open is a big step in our evolution of consciousness!!

[litllady]

hello to all,

things are better today! she is breathing on her own really good, they might let her eat a little something. there are still alot of things to keep an eye on but she is doing much better. she is still seeing things, nothing really spiritual, but its not making much sense. they said there could be swelling of the brain and that this could cause her to see things. she is not on any narcotics because they effect her breathing, so she is also confussed why we dont see what she sees. she keeps asking if we see the electricity in the room and she keeps seeing yellow dust. i guess there are several things that could cause this...

we have had some great talks already. i try not to bring things up because i dont want to scare her or anything. but she does remember things. she said, "lynette im not so sure i was at the gate of heaven". i told her that mabey this is what the 'man' meant when he told her she still had things to work on, mabey she was given a second chance for a reason.

i feel that the place that my mother was when she was having these visions was not heaven, but a place 'inbetween'. mabey this is why she saw some really positive things and also saw some scary things.

thanks for the love and prayers. it has really helped me deal with all of this. its hard to have so many thoughts and feelings and to keep them botteled up.

peace to all,
lynette

[FooSnik]

wow, wow, wow. so interesting and amazing. my father saw his family members waiting for him in the room right before he died, as well.

what is the most interesting to me is the way she said that she wasn't allowed to say certain things. we are only allowed to know a certain amount until the time is right. so interesting. kind of makes me feel like saying, "might as well just sit back and let all be illuminated when the time is right because i am only allowed to know a little bit at a time anyway."

you were blessed and thanks for blessing us with that story too.

:)

[litllady]

i just wanted to make an update on my mother! she has moved into a nursing home and is doing incredible! there is no sign of staph anywhere! she is starting rehabilitation today, she is recovering so well! also, she remembers everything!

thanks again for sending her love! for a woman with no immune system, she has really pulled some tricks out of her hat...

love lynette

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:):):):)

liliane

[litllady]

hi all!!

i had to come back and update ya all on this personal experience my mother had last month.

yesterday me and my mom finally talked deeply about things. we have been putting it off, both knowing without saying that the time wasn't right to discuss things. on my way there yesterday, i was told today was the day, and before i got there she was told the same.

she remembers everything and more!! i really dont know where to begin. first off, i asked her what made her think all of the sudden that we have many lives. she said during that day of visions she visited a past self when she lived in the days of jesus and pilate. she was young and she somehow lived with pilate through a aunt that was his lover or wife. she said she felt herself telling pilate that she thought that jesus was the messiah and that she was dismissed without thought because she was a child so they didn't take offense or care either way of what she said. she said she was standing on the side of the road when jesus walked through and she saw a lady reach out and touch his clothing. she said she wanted so bad to touch his garment but she somehow knew she couldn't or wasn't supposed to. she said pilate suffered deeply for he did not want to crucify jesus. she said a certain time (pentecost) of the year pilate allowed the people to choose to save one of the people from being killed, the people chose to save barabbas.

she said she was shown petra and said there is defiantly something behind petra that would blow the worlds mind.

she corrected herself about the sphinx, saying it wasnt under the head, it was under the left paw. she said there is a chamber with steps that takes one down to a library type place that has all the history of the world. she said she was shown how the pyramids were built and that we did not do it alone. she said there were beings from the skies that were both angels and other worldly beings that came to help us and show us how to build them. (remember, before this experience my mother believed in us being the only people in the universe and believed we only had one life even through she would dream of herself living in the time of jesus.)

she said that ufos are most defiantly real, that there are many other worlds, and she even saw beings from other worlds in the kingdom of heaven. she said they are fair skinned with eyes more beautiful then anyones eyes here in this world and she sensed that these beings were very very ancient and even fragile. she did not talk with them but she asked michael about them and he replied to her "you wouldn't believe me even if i told you"

she said the final decision about going through the gate was totally left up to her. she said that she thinks her mother has been given a second chance and has been reborn.

she said that if humans dont learn what they need to, they will be re taught everything before re born in hopes of choosing a new path to help keep their memory. she said if one dies without knowing jesus, its ok, they will be taught about it in heaven, again....she said before we come here, we all learn all of these things.

she said within the next 3 years, there will be a huge display, a showing of ufos to the world that will be undeniable to all. she said these are not the other worldly ones that want to help. she said jesus was very tall and was necessary because god as a whole can not come here or even be seen. she said the plan in the beginning was of evil, a creation that was against the will of god (the logos). she said in order for god to intervene, the hosts of heavens had to become that hand of god to do his will, and the same with jesus, god came here through a son. she said god has about given up on this world. she said that out of all the worlds, we are very selfish and we are unlike any other. she said most worlds with life are just babies, but some are very ancient and believe in a universal law of love.

she said in order for a place for souls that must be purified for the higher realm, christ was defiantly a necessity. if you dont understand this, you will be taught it again when you die. she said many here now have already been to this kingdom and now are coming to prepare for the new world. she said there are many warriors coming here now and that there will be a huge battle here and that this world will be done away with and a new earth will be transformed (possibly not in this solar system).

i asked her how she knew jesus was jesus....she said when he held out his hand to her she saw his piercings from the nails, as well as on his feet and a scare on his side. she said that the room being open in the east has everything to do with a new beginning.

she said that she was supposed to die that day. she said that what she was seeing was beyond what one is supposed to know about the after life. she said that my name was mentioned many times because i was hearing of things that aren't supposed to be known. she said if it wasn't for me keep asking her questions, she would not of came back.

i told her of my guilt i felt that day for peering into a world that i felt i had no right to peer into. but she reminded me "lynette, you were seeking, the kingdom knew you were seeking and they all knew how this was going to play out before it ever happened. you asked to be shown something, and you have been. this was for you as much as it was for me. i asked her "is anyone mad at me for wanting you to stay here and not stay with them" she smiled and said no, they all understand the power of love even if its love here in the flesh . but she reminded me, the love there is nothing like love as we know it, its over powering and beyond measure.

she said michael has black curly locks of hair that is created perfect and his skin is of a bronze look that is created perfect. she said michael has wings and so does gabriel and cried when describing details because the beauty is overwhelming made out of love for them. she said there were other angels who took on a similar look, many looked the same and these did not have wings. she said that these angels can choose to be born into flesh or help out through other ways such as dreams ect...she also said michael wore rings on his figures and they were the most beautiful rings she ever seen. she said the symbols in the rings had meaning but she was clueless to what they meant. anytime she described the beauty of something she cried.

she also said....all of her pets were there, every dog she ever had. she said the only time she was alone was when she was standing at the golden gate. she was told before she approached it that all she had to do was push it open, it was up to her. michael reminded her that she would still be sick and still suffer if she came back. the cherubs were constantly telling her she should stay, they seemed to be the only ones who couldn't understand why she would want to come back. she said all of my children are going to do great things and be a part of something much bigger. she said many babies born in this time are angels or the other worldly beings that will help bring in the replenished world. she said we need to study natural remedies, learn how to live in natural means and stock up on medicines and worm clothing. she told me to not worry about my third child who i worry so much about. she said he is meant to be and has much ahead of him in the works of god.

she said there is defiantly evil in the logos but there is no eternity in the life of evil. she said lucifer is oh so real and we all contain both the good and the evil for its a part of our creation. she said there are many scriptures, scrolls and text that will also surface in the next 3 years that will show that will complete the bible and fix its errors. she said that god has came many times through different beings or ways and is constantly saddened by our people every time. she said earth is not the only place preparing for a new beginning, she said the kingdom is very busy preparing for times ahead.

this is a personal experience, so take it for what its worth to you. if its not worth anything to you, then dont worry yourself with it. god is patient and god is love, just be true to your nature and who you really are.

she also said that the room that is open in the east is not only a open door for the new beginning but also a door for the deceivers to grab souls one last time. she said there are many in other worlds that think they can create a kingdom in the highest realm without god. she said they couldn't be more wrong.

my mother also told me to keep watching my stars but said that she had a message for me about this. she said i was not to ask anyones ideas of what things means, that i could only find the truth through myself. she reminded me that i was warned in the stars that something was going to happen that would shake my thoughts, she said i was aware that i should ground myself with jesus, and i did. she said something would happen in the next few years that would have to do with an alignment of 3 planets?!?!

we talked about the kingdom of jesus and what was behind the golden gate at the end of her vision. she wasn't sure what happens after you enter the gate but she did know that my brother that came to her had to come through the gate to see her in the kingdom she was in. she said that not everyone she saw came from the gate, that some seemed to not be able to enter it yet.

she recalls certain angels who all they did was sing and she asked michael something about singing and he looked at her and said "i dont sing" and she was like, 'oh ok' and she just laughed at this.

peace to all,
lynette

[AllyKat]

wow i'm speechless..i personally resonated with some parts of that...thank you so much for sharing!!!

sending love n light to you and your mom :)

[meganarline]

thanks again for sharing lynette. i am so pleased that your mother is doing better.

thanks for your persistance in asking questions.

i loved that michael the angel has a sense of humour!


she did not talk with them but she asked michael about them and he replied to her "you wouldn't believe me even if i told you"


she recalls certain angels who all they did was sing and she asked michael something about singing and he looked at her and said "i dont sing"

i think there are exciting times ahead for us all. we must always keep in our heart the thought that we have two choices love or fear, love or fear, love or fear.

i also like this quote from your mom:


she said i was not to ask anyones ideas of what things means, that i could only find the truth through myself.

take care lynette.

thank you mom for sharing too.

love,

megan

[Scott Reidy]

litllady


thank-you so much for sharing such a beautiful and personal story.
i send love and warm wishes to your mother in her recovery.

so many parts of this has touched me and i am pleased that you have have had this incredibly special experience to propel you and your mother into a higher learning.

your mother and you aswell well as everyone reading this special story has been blessed by it.
thank-you

x

[PriestOfLight]

much appreciation for sharing this experience. this resonates the need to learn to truly love one another. it is the only solution in life that has ever made any sense to me.

again, thanks for sharing!

[Deambor]

hi, lynette.
first of let me say i'm so happy your mom is better andmade sort of a huge come back.
i was going to ask you to consider turning this experience into a book perhaps - it's a lot of work, but it would be very benefitial for many-many people.
if not a physical printd book, then at least may be a blog.

sending you and your mother much love.

deambor

[FooSnik]

thank you so much for sharing that. it has got to be one of the most interesting things i have read in a while.

so who is petra and how will he/she/it blow our minds?

i am sure the sphinx information will be revealed/discovered when the time is right like everything else.

i think it makes total sense that the ufo's to reveal themselves with a big spectacle would be of a negative polarity because the positive ones would not interfere with our free will. it is a good heads up because i would probably go running out there screaming "you have finally arrived!" lol

but god giving up on this world? i am not so sure about that. god, from my humble understanding, is infinite love and forgiveness.

i will definitely be staying alert for the next three years, for sure!

thank you so much!

[litllady]

hi all,

i posted a post the other day...not sure what happend to it, mabey it was my fault. anyways, it was so long and rambly, mabey it wasnt meant to be.

deambor, yeah, i thought about it but i could not make money off such a thing. and how i would produce a book and offer it for free...i guess i would have to do like david does and post it online. so even if im not sure i would do a book per say, i know i wont ever charge money for this experiences.

foosink, petra (i might not be spelling it right) is known as a holy place to some. my mother thinks that if the ark of the covenant is here on earth that it might be what is behind petra, but she was just assuming. she said when she says that she knows something is there, its a feeling she feels when she was being shown things. its like she was givin this great tour of the history of mankind and god and petra and the sphinx must have been top of that list.

someone mentioned that it sounded like my mother had a 3density experience in this vision. i would like to ask, how do we know it wasnt her 'perfect world' in 4density? is this what its all about, when you all say we will create our own world in the after life? was she not making her perfect world or could there be truth in her seeing jesus and this heavenly kingdom? this vision kinda goes against what is taught here on this site....but i believe it is not a coincidence that i found this site while seeking the most high of god, of the one...and i began sharing myself and the path that i have walked with everyone here and my mother has this experience. thee oneness that i feel connected to knew i would share, knew i was seeking, knew i believed in christ and the path through christ....so how do you all see how this connects me, to my mothers experience and what the ra material teaches?

peace to all,
lynette

[litllady]

hi all!

i wanted to come and update a little. mom is home and is doing awesome. she is not restricted to her bed anymore and has cooked dinner for the first time in years. she even looks younger! things are still very hard for her getting things figured out in the wheel chair but she is able to stand on her good leg for 30 sec.

we are going to make a video to post online and share. it will have mom on there telling things for herself. i guess it will go on you tube or something like that. hopefully we will have it done this week or next. we want to do it while things are fresh on her mind and also on all of ours. we arent no movie makers so i hope it comes out good.

you all are the first ones i posted this experience with. i later posted it on unexplained mysteries in the spiritual forum. im excited to get her on video to share with you all here and others.

keep shining!
lynette

[FooSnik]

i cant wait to see that! be sure to post the link here. i am happy your mom is getting better.

[coloradogigi]

lynette, that was beautiful. it must have been so exciting to hear your mother describe what was happening to her. so wonderful. you and your family are all in my prayers during this time.

be blessed!

frankie

[StarGirl]

how beautiful and precious... thank you for sharing. and thanks to your mom.

peace and love

darlyne

[AiR1k]

i'll be keeping an eye on this thread for the video. ;)
lynette,
it was beautiful.
love,
-eric

[AL_EMT]

wow thats some heavy stuff to have read. i enjoyed all of it, thanks for sharing. good luck to you and your mother.

[litllady]

hey all!

wanted to update since i said a couple of weeks ago that i hoped to of had a video out by now....

well we did accomplish 40 mins of video with many many distractions. you name it and it went wrong. it seemed like the world was against us doing this video. but oh the amazements that came through! my mother still is grasping the memories, and sometimes, when she is talking about something, she will remember something new. this happened when we were recording and it was one of the most profound things she has yet remembered. it has to do with her being in egypt and reading the parchments that she saw under the sphinx.

she was talking about the pyramids and all the sudden out of her mouth she said "ra was god". while im sitting next to her having never heard her say this before i was trying not to fall out of my chair. i mentioned on the video that she had never said this to me before and she said, 'i know, but that is what i was shown and michael even told me, ra was god'. she went on to say that ra, just like every other 'form of god' gets diluted by mankind into being something that god is not.

so afterwards, we talked and she wanted time to research this so it could make sense to her. we have made alot of sense out of it all and more so. over the last couple of days, she has joined me in excepting that the god of moses, abraham ect...the god in the old testament that requires blood and killings out of justice...is not god. this was such a huge step for mom. after she took this step, away from scriptures, she is now understanding how to search within ones self. through doing this, we came to the idea that the woman on the horse at the field of blood-was my mom. it was her prime self, on the horse and the horse represented her adversary. so it was like her prime self, who has already been through all of the experiences that she will go through, was on the adversary (her own darker side of her consciousness), watching herself, overseeing herself, go through the confusion about herself and god that she still had to over come. we might not be exactly right, but i feel we are going in the right direction. the woman on the horse scared her because of the knowing of all the things that she represents. scared of the truth in things that she was unwilling to even look at. scared of the things in life that she accepted all because man told her it was so. her prime self came to her when she needed it most, during the time of the vision of the blood. overlooking, protecting, watching, overseeing....her own self struggling.

it might not be a big thing to those on this forum that ra was at one time the highest form of god (us) that was able to encompass a spirit to teach people about love and forgiveness. but for her, a christian woman, having this vision about jesus....and also saying that ra was god....she had to search within of why so many different teachings came through in her vision.

love has been shining so strong here. moment after moment we have been being placed in the right conversation with someone or the right time with someone....so we could teach them about the power of love.

the jehovah witnesses came by my house again, they come every week, for i always feel we should show respect and share our respect. but i dont think they will be back this time. i told them that if jehovah was gods name, then they are blasphemy because it shouldn't be uttered....then i told them that jehovah was a murderer and i refuse to except any wrathful or revengeful god anymore. and guess who i saw out to lunch that day, 30 mins after they came to my house...the whole van load of the jehovah witnesses that i spoke with earlier. i was kind, we all were able to talk about it, they allowed my peace to be spoken, and of course i allowed their thoughts....but what a ironic day. we got to talking about the power of love and that this is how i weigh things on 'what is god'. you could see their heads tilt in a way that a dog will tilt his head when he seems confused.

i still feel, that teachers of love, had a hand in sowing a hidden fabric in the bible. there are teachings of love, mercy and grace.....and this is where our most high is. i will still use the bible for study, for it is a passion that burns deep to try to understand. but i made my choice firmly and i wont turn back.

yhwh in the bible is the biggest deception on the face of this earth. revelations talks about the beast that claims to be god, talks about the beast who will mislead the masses, the beast who will deceive even the elite. this beast is yhwh (the old serpent). ive never been more for sure about anything! the masses are deceived!!!! anyone who says the bible is gods word is saying that god is a murderer and god is not love and grace. god doesn't change or make excuses for such horrible actions. god did not order any man to kill another man. god did not need any blood sacrifices. jesus showed us an offering, not a sacrifice. we 'offer' our selves for the will of love. every church that says that god did all of those wrathful things, is a part of the masses being deceived. it really is so very sad. our nature is love. gods nature is love. love will conquer....hate has truly deceived millions.

anyways, mom wants to redo the videos...but i am going to take a snip from the first ones and post them here on the forum. in due time, we will get the whole story on video and post it.

also, we have mom to where she can get to the computer now! i showed her this forum today. i explained what is studied here and the 'rules' haha (sorry to laugh, i just hate rules, blah-with all due respect:d)....im sure she will be coming on here soon to thank everyone for prayers and positive thoughts. she seemed very excited that she would be able to thank everyone herself!!

keep shining!
lynette

[Alloura]

hi lynette

thank you so much for sharing this beautiful, personal ongoing story with us!! i too am so glad your mom has regained her health and strength and is able to remember all that she saw!!! what a great gift this is - to so many...

so many of the things your mom saw rang true for me also. one of the bigger issues for christians (this is just my opinion) is that of reincarnation. i have believed it all my life, but none of those around me, both family or friends do. it is wonderful that your mom has accepted those things that were shown to her that really didn't follow the teachings she had recieved in this life.

the comments about the bible are right on the mark, tho hard to accept at first for believers. the earth's history is very different from what we've been told. as a little girl i remember the first time i heard about the pyramids and egypt - and knowing that what was being taught was not true. knowing the civilazation was much older than that, and that the pryamids were built with levitation, and so much more. being a young girl, no one believed me, let alone listened to me! but i started searching for truth as soon as i could. it is hard being a wanderer, but worth it when you begin to learn the truth. this website is such a gift!!

thank you again for sharing this with us, sending love & light to you and your mom, and entire family!:)

love & light
alloura

[Avariel]

questions, questions, so many questions! (ummm.... typical me.) :d

1) everybody's in "huts" with palm trees around'em. cool. about how many of these things are piled up there? 100? 1000? 10,000? millions? it's kinda hard to "picture" it without getting an idea how many people/souls are lounging around in this "in-between" area.

one reason i point this out is because within the relatively short time of her visit, she "bumps into" jesus, elijah, michael, and gabriel among others... which gives you this feeling of a relatively small campsite. now if there were millions of huts around, it'd kinda be weird that you bump into these "big names" all the time. then again, i don't pretend to understand how it all works.

2) her mom was there. craig was there. is there any indication why they are there? if this is an "in-between" area, then why hadn't they traversed the gates and taken off to heaven proper? why hang out in the "in-between" for so long? the gates usually represent a threshold of "no-return"... once you cross over, you can't opt to "come back". did lynette get the impression that souls were "coming and going" through the gates? she made it sound like when she went up to them, she was alone. are those gates one-way tickets to heaven? or do souls flutter back to the "in-between" all the time (say, to meet new arrivals to the area)?

3) this huge battle coming up... any idea what that's about? the earthlings vs. the bad et's? the illuminati vs. the rockefellers? is it just between countries? and what are we supposed to do about it? i'm thinking more along the lines of "love is the answer" instead of the old "johnny get your gun" way.

i, too, find your sharing of this story invaluable. my fond gratitude for that. :)

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[Fructedor]

lynette - thank you for sharing this experience with us. you and pamela will be in my prayers.

my dad died when he was 52 of his third heart attack - i was at home when the phone call came telling us that he had died and the hospital staff had done all they could. mum was with him. in the time i took to get to the hospital, about forty-five minutes, he had come back to life, although his heart had stopped and all the life support systems had been unplugged - the nurses were astonished. dad was conscious when i got there, and i'll never forget two things. first, there was depth in his eyes and a confidence that i'd never seen as long as i'd known him. second, not long after i arrived, while we spoke, he looked across at the clock and "oh, it's ok, i've got a little time left." he died very shortly afterwards, but i know that he had been allowed to return for just long enough to say his goodbyes - and also to give me the most precious gift i've received - by the way he looked at me, unlike any look he'd ever given me, he made me understand that i still had a long way to go, but that it was worth it.

i also talked to him in my heart for years, particularly when i became a father, and have no doubt whatsoever that the communication was real. your mother is telling you some very important things, and the love she gives you is proof of this. she's talking to you, and what she says is for you, but i believe you're right to share it, because this concerns us all.

love

fructedor

[litllady]

the prayers you sent are right on time. i wasnt sure if i should post this or not, but mother has had a set back. my last post was on 9-11 and that evening she went back to the hospital for cellulitis. this is not abnormal, for she has a open wound on her hip that has been open for over a year now. her entire leg turned bright red and her temp was 104. she is on the iv antibiotics, but can only stay on them for so long because they can toxicate her kidneys. 9-11 was a very strange evening. i felt a spooky vibe.

she is already showing improvements, but the prayers were right on time....thanks.

averiel, hello...

mom said that everyone had their own hut, so yes, it seems to go on and on. she also says that you could see the kingdom from the village, and some that were in the village were able to enter the kingdom and some were not.

yes, it seemed that the village area was a in between place. she said there was alot going on there all the time. she recalls getting tired at the village and needing rest at the hut. she said that as things went on, she got very tired.

a battle-this is mysterious. she did say that the michael told her that the spiritual battle has already been won, but it will play out here on earth. i really dont know.

im trying to stay focused to get the video done, so little time and its really harder then i thought to get a good video. for now, she still needs strength to continue to fight these infections. the wound on her hip was a 8 inches long, down to the bone. it could not be stitched or stapled for the risk of infections getting trapped in there. if she could just get the last little bit healed up i think her infections would cease. she was so depressed to go back to the hospital, just when things were going so great.

peace,
lynette

[Avariel]

a battle-this is mysterious. she did say that the michael told her that the spiritual battle has already been won, but it will play out here on earth.

ah, the joy of being in communication with someone (michael) who exists outside of linear time. he knows the ending to the story already. we have to live it page by page.

i hope your mom's 9/11 relapse doesn't take too much of a toll on her!


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[litllady]

well, i finally got some videos put together. the quality could be better, but the point gets across....i hope you all enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/4kingston11

much love and thanks,
lynette

[FooSnik]

awesome! thank you for the effort. i absolutely love this story and will pass it on to friends and family. especially those who are concerned about death and dieing.

thanks again!

[meganarline]

i watched all the videos today. she really is a sweetie your mum. you are blessed. thank her so much for sharing and i pray she gets better.

love megan

[kac527]

dear lynette,

sooo beautiful! thank you for taking the time to put these videos together for us, what a blessing. i will be keeping your mom in my thoughts and prayers. she is precious and the wonderful thing is that we all know she is very well taken care of no matter which side she's on :)

please keep us posted and much love to you,

kelly

[MarkM]

this is sooo nice! i'm taken by the interplay and shared working between you and your mother in this so special presentation of love, lynette. the connection between the two of you seems most powerful in bringing this wonderful story out to the greater viewership. the pair of you united in this way makes me feel more heart-connected to my beloved nanny, who passed recently, and will undoubtably serve to inspire many with love which transcends the boundaries of the seeming separation of 'death'.

thank you and mom... mom, you've accomplished something rare and beautiful. god bless you, and thank you! mark

[BillD]

what a wonderful story! i've heard this kind of thing before, but only in small snippets, about members of my own family. unfortunately, my family has never really been one that discusses spiritual matters much...i think they've been timid about it, really.

anyway, something you said a few posts back about learning what "meek" is really struck me. i learned a long time ago that "meek" people are often the strongest people. it takes no courage or internal fortitude whatsoever to be a bully or be "all full of brass tacks", but it does take true strength and courage to accept humility and even so-called "weakness". personally, i have found my greatest strengths hidden inside my greatest weaknesses, and as such, i have learned to cherish my every weakness.

let your meekness and weakness shine!

love and light to you, your mom and your family...and thank you so much for sharing this wonderful story with us!!! :)

[litllady]

you all are very welcome. i know how the story makes me feel but i still doubt that others might not see it as such a wonderful experience as i do. its hard to set aside the part of you that worries what others will think and just do what you feel you should do. you all have encouraged me to just put it out there and i know that if there is someone that needs to see such a message or experience, i have faith the light will lead them to it just as the light has led me here.

i dont think its just a flook that i found this site last year when i was searching understanding of this 'pull' in me. i wasnt unfamiliar with the 'drive' of wanting to know all i could about science and history ect....but so many times in my life i was too busy to seek. the turn around of my thoughts processes is so opposite of what i grew up with.


keep sharing and shining,
lynette

[janewentwest]

hi lynette,

i am a hospice volunteer. there is always a vail lifted. it is real. we should not fear death. time is material. what is behind this life is so real. i have a daughter so cute. 11 years young. she says "i don't fear death" only i fear experiencing someone i love die. she is so spiritual. born to experience our time of 2012.

one time we were sitting on a boat. she became very excited and said. mom! do you remember before we were born and we were together! every hair stood on my back and i just answered and said. yes i remember, what happened? she goes---mom.... don't you remember we were all together, everything there is, the plants...the animals... and all of us humans...we were all one. i thought i would faint....

anyways, i think life is not our eternity. life is beautiful but i don't think were even prepared for how beautiful eternity is.

bless you and all.

[PamelaK]

kelly, this is lynette's mother. i just want you to know your mother is with you all the time and watches over you. remember, the love goes on forever!
pamelak

[litllady]

hey all,

pamelak is my mother, she has joined the forum, ide like to introduce you all to my mother.

i also want to note some things about what my mother is familiar with and not familiar with. (she has alot of reading to do;))

my mother is not familiar with edgar cayce what so ever nor the law of one. and yes mods, ive warned her of a few of the rules. i think we are all here for the same reasons...we are are seekers in some way or another. since she has had this experience, i have told her about some things that might interests her understanding about things she didnt understand, like cayce and the sphinx, the law of one and ra, and the ideas of a higher self. this is all new to her, but i think she feels the need to sift through it all.

peace and love,
lynette

[kac527]

oh my goodness... pamelak! welcome to our forum... what a joy that you are able to interact with us here. i've probably already written this somewhere in this thread, but we are so grateful to you and lynette for sharing this very personal account of your spiritual journey with us... and we are soooo grateful that you are well again.

thank you for your kind words about my mother. i had to go all the way back to page 1 of this thread just to make sure that i was the "kelly" you were responding to. it's been 20 years since i lost my mom at such a young age, but because of lynette's beautiful telling of your story i feel like i have her back again in a sense... what a gift. and i'm sure that our souls will be reunited one day. i've watched the videos you and lynette created and want to thank you for taking the time and energy to make them, they will help and inspire many, many people.

and jane, i wanted to say thank you for sharing what you did about your daughter and her comments about oneness... "from the mouths of babes..."
how encouraging and beautiful :) you are blessed, she will be teaching you many things and i hope you'll continue to share them with us.

we all have so much to be thankful for and so much to look forward to! things may look bleak, especially in regards to the economy no matter where one lives, but i have confidence in the future and that all is happening just as it's meant to happen.

love and blessings,

kelly

[PamelaK]

first of all i want to thank everyone so much for your prayers and the way you all gave my daughter, lynette peace and hope while we were going through the battle for my life. i am a big beliver in the power of prayer and when a name is mentioned and lifted up before the throne of heaven our lord hears and responds. i feel so blessed that he allowed be to experience all the wonderful things that i did and also that he allowed me to come back for my grandchildren. they are so precious to me. i have four, 3 boys and 1 girl and they have my heart. i asked jesus "why did you give me such beautiful grand babies if i can't see them grow up and be a part of their lives?" this is when jesus smiled and touched my cheeck and told me i could go back this time. then he told michael to take be back. i have a very clear memory of that experience and i was standing there with my hand on the "gate" and all i had to do was to push it open and go through it, but as much as i wanted to and i really did want to, i knew i needed to go back for my babies. why, because i feel we are going to be in for some pretty rough times ahead and my family will need me more then ever to fight the battles that are to come. i feel it will all enfold as it is meant to and things will get bad but if we can all hang in there together and support each other in love and grace we will make it through these hard times. remember, there are beautiful things awaiting us and we will experience it all some day.
peace and love,
pamelak;)

[litllady]

hi ya all

wanted to bump this thread because we are fixing to do another video and i have a serious question to ask.

i want sincere opinions and thoughts on my mother trying hypnosis, through a professional. she feels she could remember many things that she saw below the sphinx, through hypnosis. have any of you tried being hypnotized and have any of you investigated hypnosis enough to tell me more about it. can it be trusted?

i am currently starting to look into psychologist in my state, but i would like to find one that is open to things about afterlife and such. if any of you know of a person in alabama that is known for such a thing...pls let me know. [please pm if you have a name]

she still is remembering things, little by little...but the details are unreal, the symbols she saw on some of the books she held are ancient symbols...like the snake eating its own tail and zodiacs. she would always ask, if she could look in a certain book and she says most of the time she was told she could look in the book, but wouldnt understand it.

any psychs here that professionally practice hypnosis that could share their thoughts about it?[please pm ltllady if you are]

peace
lynette

[Deerclan]

lynette, i joined here a couple of months ago. i just read this whole thread, and i found it stunning and beautifully sensitive.

as far as hypnosis, i am familiar with it & was trained in it, but i never used it in my professional practice. i don't know whether you would want my opinion or not. i'll post it, and then the only thing i ask is that you please feel free to ignore it, if it's not what you are looking for. ok?

first, i am not aware of any dangers associated with hypnosis. there is really nothing mystical or magical about the process. it is simply a high level of focus, combined with a high degree of relaxation. to me, it is as natural as dreaming. much like dreams, hypnotic sessions can bring up images that are upsetting or frightening, similar to a nightmare. a trained and skilled hypnotherapist should be well equipped to deal with that, and know how several methods to keep it from becoming a problem.

beyond that, i would suggest that you use your own spiritual awareness to choose a hypnotherapist and screen him or her with your own inner wisdom. i would suggest that you ask him/her directly about the concerns you posted here. any competent professional would much rather her/his clients bring up doubts, questions, misgivings, and anxieties before the fact, because it is so much easier to deal with them all at the beginning than later on after sessions have gotten under way. if a professional is not receptive to those questions, that is imo reason enough to question that persons's professionalism.

another important thing to know is that you are not having to start from square one, when evaluating a professional. there are professional organizations, licensing bodies, and credentialing agencies whose job it is to do that sort of work long before they allow a person to hang out a license. you have every right to ask a professional questions like these:

(1) what license do you hold?

(2) what degrees have you earned, and in what exact field?

(3) what professional organizations do you belong to?

(4) have you ever had any professional complaints filed against you? if so, what was the outcome of those charges?

(5) since spirituality is very important to me, i would like to ask if you are willing to share with me what your spiritual beliefs and practices are?

(6) what advanced training do you have, above and beyond your degree and license?

you are also perfectly in line to ask how to contact those agencies. i do not know if it works the same way in all states, but in my state a therapist is *required* to furnish that information upon request. we all know the rules. a competent professional will generally smile, be happy that you are a careful and informed consumer, and then most likely pull out a drawer full of credentials to show you. your questions tell them that you are a responsible consumer of their services, and that tells them they will be able to count on you too. every competent and ethical professional i have ever known is very proud of their years of hard work, proud of their credentials, and extremely proud to show and tell you all about them. we all want to protect our clients & our group reputation. please remember, you are hiring this person to work for you. like any other employer, you have every right, every authority, and all power to interview them to find out if they have the qualities you are looking for. that brings up the other side of the matter.

if you ask the above questions and find the person getting evasive, uneasy, defensive, or angry, those are red warning flags. if that happens, i hope your inner alarm bells go off and keep sounding until you are out of that person's office. it is sad but true that there are people practicing who are unethical, unlicensed, and practicing illegally, even downright frauds. i have encountered them myself. i have stood talking to two of them, face to face, and i know how their minds work. they rely on deceit, and if deceit does not work, they rely on bullying and intimidation. *no* legitimate, competent, licensed, ethical professional will behave in such a way. do not be intimidated. it is your money, and you have every right to know exactly what you are getting, no less than if you were buying house paint at wal-mart.

one final technicality. i once talked to one unethical therapist, in a state next to mine, on behalf of a friend. when i asked him about licensing, he responded that he was "board certified." i let that answer throw me off the scent. later, when questions came up (about such things as seeing a client after appointments, after hours, in his office), i asked him again. by that point i had checked out the law in his state, and it said distinctly that a person must be licensed. while board certification may be a bonus for physicians, board certification does not take the place of a state license. he was practicing illegally. i followed up by telephoning his office. he never returned any of my calls. i *hope* such things are rare, but the fact is, they do happen. that is why it is important to find out who your therapist is, and find out before you trust them with your money, your mind, or your soul.

the things i have told you above are basic consumer protection. beyond that, i urge you to trust your intelligence, your own feelings, and your own spiritual guidance. i strongly suspect that by the time you talk with 3 professionals, one of them will "click" with you, and you will feel an instant mutual liking, mutual trust, and mutual respect. by that time, you will have found yourself a very valuable ally, probably for the rest of your life. :)

hope that helps, lynette. i am super-glad that you and pamela are here. you both really brightened my day with nothing more than your posts from last year. :) here's to sending you love, light, and successful hunting. :)

please keep in touch. if you ever have any questions about any therapist, or any related question, feel free to pm me.

paul

[litllady]

thank you much paul for all of that info. this is what i need, a way to structure what i need to consider and ask. this helps me be more confident when i do get the chance to look deeper into someone imparticular.

is it considered ok in this profession to allow a member of the family to sit with the patient during the hypnosis. would that be a reasonable thing to ask, for me to be present while the hypnosis would be occurring?

will they try to draw it out and use us to make as much money as possible? i hope i find someone that will work with us on little time and not try to take advantage of how many sessions they can pull out of us.

i know many stay years in hypnosis sessions...but i was and am hoping for no more then a few (tops 3) due to financial reasons. i myself will be fitting the bill. times are so tough...but i feel this might be a really good thing, if we can find the right person. my mom feels that she can remember much much more.

thanks and i am glad the story touched you....

lynette

[Deerclan]

i'm glad that information helps, lynette, and confidence is important. going in to a situation feeling overwhelmed & intimidated is the easiest way for an unscrupulous person to gain control over you, and nobody needs that.

it's difficult for me to answer your specific question about the arrangements of having a family member sit in, but i really don't see any way that it should be a problem. the one therapist i knew who used hypnosis professionally made it a practice to have someone else present in the room to protect himself from liability, and he once casually mentioned to me that he once had a patient's sister sit in the room while he used hypnosis. i'll put it like this -- if you ask to be present in the session and your mother agrees, then the hypnotist refuses, i'd say he owes you an explanation as to "why not?" personally if it were me, that would raise my suspicions. i think i would ask to see written material on professional ethics or whatever to support his decision. i just can't think of any reason for a hypnotist to refuse you entrance into the session -- especially given that it is not primarily for psychotherapy as such. does that help clear things up?

you know, lynette, the one little question that keeps buzzing in the back of my head as we talk this out is, are you really sure you need a professional hypnotist to recover this information? i am totally with you on the value of the information, and the importance of recovering it as much as possible. my question hinges on the way i defined hypnosis, as deep relaxation plus intense concentration. let me talk about that for a minute or two, ok? then i'll try to come straight to the point i see these questions hinging on. ok, here goes.

hypnosis can be thought of as a state of mind therapists call "dissociation." all that really means is your body is in one place, and your mind is in another. the fact is that we all experience dissociation in normal life. have you ever had the experience of driving someplace while your mind is busy thinking about something else, and then once you get there, wondering how you got there? that is very common, and that is dissociation in a normal setting: your mind is in one place, your body is in another. hypnosis is pretty much the same thing, only taken a little further. the key is just learning to relax. once you are relaxed enough, you can think about something, say a blue panda bear (a silly example to illustrate the point), and your attention can become deeply involved in thinking over that blue panda. you can become so absorbed in thinking about that blue bear that you forget all about everything else, including the passage of time. in face we all experience that any time we do something we truly love. for me, singing and playing guitar can do it, especially for a group of kids. for some people, it's sports, or sewing, or even walking in the park and looking at nature. any time you do something you truly love to do, you can actually put yourself into a mild hypnotic trance. that is what i meant in my first post, when i talked about it being natural.

the fact is, modern culture encourages us to stay tense and 'on-guard,' so some of us have to 'unlearn' that habit before we can deeply relax. when i last dealt personally with hypnosis, there were all kinds of cassette tapes (which tells you how long ago it was) to help people learn to relax. that leads me up to another possible avenue i can see. if you could find a decent cd on relaxation, i see no obstacle to your mother using that as a tool to help her learn the skill of deep relaxation - and that's all it is, a skill.

from there, it is already obvious to me that you naturally have the gift of gently guiding another person's attention, by the way you describe talking to your mother in the hospital. so she learned to relax, and you gently suggest to her that she sees the same things she saw when you talked to her in the hospital. sound hard? to me, it sounds like you're more than halfway there already.

now if you feel yourself reacting with doubts and fear, then i'd say by all means just proceed with plan a, start calling up hypnotists and psychologists, and start screening them to make sure they meet your standards. from there, it's a matter of talking directly to them and asking them to work with you on financial arrangements.

suppose you just think it over, discuss it with your mother, see how she feels about it, and then get back with me? cause one thing's for sure -- neither one of you needs to go any further along this path until you both feel 100% safe, and 100% comfortable. it just seems to me that you and your wonderful mother already have an excellent relationship with a beautifully high level of communication between you. that is a fairly uncommon among thing human beings, and these two things, communication and trust, are two of the most precious ingredients in any relationship - including any relationship you might have with any psychologist or therapist.

i have only one request, and that is when you get ready to discuss it again with me, please pm me. we can talk it over here, but sometimes these threads change quickly enough that i sort of lose track of them. if you pm me, i'll know to go look for your post in this thread.

as the truckdrivers used to say on their cb radios, "come back?" that means, what is your answer? :)

one last thing, lynette - i think this is a beautiful project you are working at to help your mother remember those incredibly beautiful scenes you described, and well worth all the care you can put in to it. i hope you are treating it as the priceless gift to humanity i think you are. :)

paul



thank you much paul for all of 0that info. this is what i need, a way to structure what i need to consider and ask. this helps me be more confident when i do get the chance to look de00eper into someone imparticular.

is it considered ok in this profession to allow a member of the family to sit with the patient during the hypnosis. would that be a reasonable thing to ask, for me to be present while the hypnosis would be occurring?

will they try to draw it out and use us to make as much money as possible? i hope i find someone that will work with us on little time and not try to take advantage of how many sessions they can pull out of us.

i know many stay years in hypnosis sessions...but i was and am hoping for no more then a few (tops 3) due to financial reasons. i myself will be fitting the bill. times are so tough...but i feel this might be a really good thing, if we can find the right person. my mom feels that she can remember much much more.

thanks and i am glad the story touched you....

lynette