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darth_rothscum
06-24-2008, 09:53 AM
among your people at this time whose purity is already one."
--Ra
Did Ra ever qualify who these people are? Dalai Lama? DW? I think They were referring to 7th Density entities (or beyond). I'm interested to know, because I would like to see what kinds of things they have said and research the type of lives they have lived. (But this is assuming that these people are famous). Who knows--it could be some kid hearding mares in Inner Mongolia right now ?!?!? :)
MarkM
06-24-2008, 04:18 PM
Just my gut feeling, but this present @ 75,000 - 78,000 year Earth experience is happening mainly for the benefit of 3D evolving lifewaves. (yes, 1st and 2nd, too) Wanderers and other higher density light workers are here to help, and I would imagine that some 3D folk have really gotten it, so to speak, and have achieved an inner sympathetic vibration resonating with One.
I would tend to think that this whole pageant is all about 3D folk, doing all this for the first time, and getting ready to make the next grade. If not for them, the wanderers would not be here - it's a 3D show.
Take this forum for example - I would imagine that many here are 3D folk who are polarizing to service to others, and gaining a helping hand from a large number of wanderer/members who are called to help.
Ra's purpose may be looked at as two-fold, in a way - galvanizing those light-workers into awakening to their mission, as well as reaching out (the main mission) to we 3D evolving souls, hopefully catalysing us into making the choice of polarization.
When it comes to humanity, the vast majority are 3D. The relative few who came here to help notwithstanding, the whole purpose of the 3D experience is for the benefit of the 3D human.
Ra may be referring to awakening lightworkers in some vein, but I feel the reference has the emphasis on referring to some of the almost seven billion 3D people here; as this, as I said, is all about them.
Mark
darth_rothscum
06-24-2008, 09:49 PM
That's true Mark,
But I would go as far as to say that I don't even think it matters if even a tiny fraction of the 3D entities have "gotten it." I think Ra was very clear that everyone ascends. And just as an aside ... I kind of find this troubling because it means even the Rockefeller/Rothschild-type Service to Self entities will be sharing a plane with nice folks like us because a 4D- existance is allowed. (Hell, even 5D- is allowed ... and if I've read the material properly, I believe the 5D negatives are trying to find a path to 6D- ... they just haven't been able to do it "yet").
I like the information that David presents, and he surely is turning out to be an excellent teacher for anyone who is lucky enough to run across his work ... and so that got me thinking: who else could be our teacher??
Should we be paying as close an attention to, for instance, the words of the Dalai Lama as we do David's blog?? We might learn more and that might push us up a few octaves in 4th density. (Not like it's a competition or anything ... just wondering).
I've learned a lot from Ron Paul and even from Fulford. I am convinced that those two are here on a mission--they don't know it of course, but I thinking they're doing a splendid job.
daresh
06-25-2008, 07:56 AM
I. FIRST STATEMENT
....We have been called to your group because you have
a need for a more advanced approach to what you call, seeking the truth. We
hope to offer you a somewhat different slant upon the information which is
always and ever the same.
Notice the last line, a somewhat different slant upon the information which is always and ever the same. It is about the law of one, the perennial philosophy. Unspeakable still tried to be spoken out. The essence which can be found in every religion in different wordings.
People like the Dalai Lama, paramahanse yogananda, wilber, maharishi, dogen, are all high realised teachers of that which is.
But everybody can function as a teacher. In every moment, every experience, every interaction great lessons can be learnt and truth can be experienced.
So who else can be our teacher. Everything, life is the teacher and especially your own inner self!
yossarian
06-25-2008, 09:55 AM
That's true Mark,
But I would go as far as to say that I don't even think it matters if even a tiny fraction of the 3D entities have "gotten it." I think Ra was very clear that everyone ascends.
What Ra said was "everyone is harvested" which is not the same as ascending.
Some go to 4D+ on Earth, Some go to 4D- on a different planet, some go to 3D on a different planet.
darth_rothscum
06-25-2008, 03:16 PM
What Ra said was "everyone is harvested" which is not the same as ascending.
Some go to 4D+ on Earth, Some go to 4D- on a different planet, some go to 3D on a different planet.
Yes, you're correct. That was my mistake.
Keith
06-26-2008, 11:01 AM
Alternatively, I think if the statement is interpreted in the context of the reply given by Ra, Ra was refering to those whose intention/will to serve/heal is pure/refined enough that they are able to "connect with the Creator" and thus has the ability to heal without the need for additional "tools".
QUESTIONER: My question then would be, are there individuals incarnate upon the planet today who would have the inner disciplines to, using your instructions, construct and initiate in a pyramid they built? Is this within the limits of what any one on the planet today can do? Or is there no one available for this?
RA: I am Ra. There are people, as you call them, who are able to take this calling at this nexus. However, we wish to point out once again that the time of the pyramids, as you would call it, is past. It is indeed a timeless structure. However, the streamings from the universe were, at the time we attempted to aid this planet, those which required a certain understanding of purity. This understanding has, as the streamings revolved and all things evolve, changed to a more enlightened view of purity. Thus, there are those among your people at this time whose purity is already one with intelligent infinity. Without the use of structures, healer/patient can gain healing.May we further speak to some specific point?
Adam of All
06-26-2008, 10:15 PM
Keith, while you pointed out a good piece of knowledge in your last post, I'm having trouble making connections with it to the thread topic. Please elaborate, as I haven't understood the point you've made.
Silvanus Sanctus Germanus
06-27-2008, 04:03 AM
It is safe to say that teaching tools like the Pyramids and also the Ark or Grail, are mearly representations of the potentials sitting in our human body, sort of like training wheels before we take a leap of Faith. It is also safe to say that enough initiates have been through the process ( resulting in the 100 monkey effect ) and therefore gave us the opportunity to advance spiritualy without the use of any external devices. This would represents human evolution the way it was meant to be. As a result of efforts made in the past, we have the opportunity to polarize by simply being.....................Sylvain................. ...........
Magical_Mongoose
06-27-2008, 12:29 PM
The "training wheels" analogy I love, Sylvanus...maybe there's a reason why a great deal of these structures/substances/etc aren't as prevalent as they once were, because we've had enough experiences with them (in past-lives) that we can tap into. So they are somewhat antiquated, but definitely serve a purpose in triggering the spiritual seeker.
But you can't rely upon them. I just came back from a week long festival in the forest with around 400 people and saw people doing all kinds of things to remember or forget who they actually were. The people that were having the most fun relied upon love and shared themselves openly as we sunbathed in the nude together; those who seemed "under the weather" relied upon a vast repitoire of hallucinogens and synthetics in search of that state.
Maybe that's what purity actually requires, not a state of seeking but just living with clarity, joy, love and acceptance. But that takes fluid degrees of will and remembrance which can only really be done when preconceived notions of power and self/identity are surrendered. How paradoxical is that?
As for being a Wanderer, a plain-ol' 3D'er, or a 7th density supra-guru, it doesn't really matter where you came from but who you are right now and what you choose in this moment. Coming back from my flight to the forest and feeling the high spiritual energy (and more oxygen!) still in my body, it still feels like I know so little about myself...but the less I worried in those confused and anxious moments, I noticed how things began to flow in beautiful synchronicity. Now it's all about carrying that into the toil and grind of city-life...
Keith
06-27-2008, 12:31 PM
I think that the quote in the thread topic was a partial quote from Ra and was misinterpreted.
When viewed on its own,the statement- "There are those among your people at this time whose purity is already one."- seems to indicate that there are people who are very connected to the Creator, and thus spiritually advanced and wise.
However, when viewed as part of Ra's answer from which the statement originated, I think Ra's intended purpose is to point out that there are spiritually advanced people who can heal for example, with just their hands or thoughts. These people need not have a deep knowledge of the Law of One or be very wise. It's that their intention/seeking is pure enough for healing.
My impression is that Darth is trying to find people who have a wide knowledge and understanding and are very spiritually advanced in terms of all aspects of the Law of One. But what i think is that there are very few or no such people due to the limitations of 3rd density. It is more often that the "spiritually advanced" are adept or good in certain aspects of the Law of One which we can learn from if we are interested in that aspect.
Possibly the idea of "purity as one" could be applied to the nature of communication within the work of sustaining relationship. In some regard there could be some degree of efficiency related to pure communication. For example, compare the effort of the "pony express" to the same letter delivered via email, maybe one arrives less soiled. Maybe there's some technological factor that allows us to improves communication and encourages people to work at communicating and by that work seems a chance that they become greater enabled to communicate purely. At the extreme, the act of meditation may have components of communication which transcend the conscious mind and so support relationships - as if a meditation ressonance may carry information in ways not limited to the use of voice or the thoughtforms that correspond to them.
Related to this seems the art of distance healing, where a person attempts to direct universal healing energies to a far distant person in need. Here there may be some enormous amount of verbal and non-verbal communication which is filtered by their physical 3D separation, though the meditation component of such activity may effectively be able to transfer the information that's important. In this way, physical separation may actually purify communication by eliminating conventional communication forms that may in some way distract from or distort the distance healing faculties.
soup
Apparently there's isolation tanks that may help a person to tame the triggers which may distract them from sustaining a regulated state of being. In this sense, self regulation can relate to both the self initiated and projection initiated catalyst impetus. So isolation may act as a filter that separates the grain from the chaff (speaking of harvest), that it may be easier for a person to sustain violet ray activity alone than otherwise, sad to say.
soup
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