Futuretalk 2: a Conversation with Michael St.Clair, pt 1/2

[LightEye]

dear friends,

part i
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vigohhiykq

part ii
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp7gegpmjuc

be well, be love.

david

futuretalk 2 - a conversation with michael st clair: part 1 of 2
a project camelot interview
montreux, switzerland, may 2008

after the initial success of our futuretalk with david wilcock, we decided to continue our futuretalks as a series of conversations - not interviews - with people who have something important to say.

a futuretalk with michael st clair seemed to be an excellent next step. michael, as those of you will know who are already familiar with our first interview with him at chillion castle in switzerland, is a fascinating futurist and metaphysician as well as a famed astrologer.

michael has been thinking about the future in a multitude of ways for many years, has written several important and well-received books, and recently has re-entered the world of banking to advise private clients with an eye to the coming changes in world economies and ways of doing business.

we cover the whole range from safe spaces (which michael prefers to call radiant zones), to what might be happening and what one should consider preparing for in the future, coming bank failures, possible geopolitical events that could change our lives, and other concerns.

michael has spent several years viewing the scenarios - both positive and negative - that one might need to consider in the years ahead. he shares his thoughts and his own personal vision, as well as some key points that everyone should keep in mind in the coming days.

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[Metamike]

it was interesting to hear what michael had to say about the time after the shift in this interview. i get the feeling that there is something that does not click into place for me. that feeling comes not only from the ra material but also the 3 book series the convoluted universe. the worst or most intense of the earth changes and political upheaval will not effect those going from 3 to 4d. from a 4d perspective we will be aware of what is happening to the old earth but we must hold our focus on the new.

the new magnetic energies that are a part of 4d will mean that we really don't have to look for safe places, stock up on food, small arms etc. the safest place to be is connected to your heart and to higher self so that you will be guided to the actions that are right for you. moving into that higher vibration means preparing in an active sense of the word.

i can see the tribal unites coming together like michael talks about but with the heightened psychic abilities, we will find totally new ways to connect, work together and build, or manifest what ever we need at that time.

can't wait!
metamike

[stephaniekraft]

metamike,

i agree with you totally!

blessings,
stephanie

[WalkingTurtle]

i watched the video and i got somewhat rubbing my head. why should we go to a higher place, get together with a load of people with different kinds of skills and build a new community? i mean, we already live in such communities and where should we go? e.g. here in germany, we just don't have the space to form new communities, it has to be allowed by the authorities and you as a normal citizen just simply can't afford that. so probably we all will die here in germany. but anyway there has to be made space for the people that can afford to build new communities. a new beginning with a selected number of people. whaaaa, we all will die! (i'm a little overworked today, sorry!)

have a nice day anyway,
wt

[transiten]

hi

i totally agree with the three of you. also i don't understand the pple who say we should keep our savings in gold...can you eat gold? everything ends up to what you cn get for something in a certain situation. a guy in the school i attended in the early 80:ies where we were taught a simple sustainable lifestyle came up with a system with honeyjarstandard instead of gold...an exellent idea when one thinks of the current situation in the us! without bees we're all doomed as einstein said. honey will be as prescious as gold, and you can eat it!!!

liliane the transit

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

i think some of the fuss around gold is due to it's ethereal qualities. it does in fact represent the evolution of elements and alchemists would go to great lengths to unlock these secrets. also gold may act as an accelerator for instreaming cosmic vibrations, just like diamonds, crystals, precious jewls and even a flower, it hints that even inanimate objects may be in constant relation with energy and may in fact evolve or at least change it's complete structure when exposed to higher vibrations, whether it is throughout time or in an energetic burst.

i enjoyed michael's talks and also his first interview.
...........................sylvain................ ..........

[transiten]

hi silvanus

i also enjoyed the interview but also felt unease, which i never do when i listen to david...i mean i really would like to live a simple life in the countryside but i don't like the idea i have to hurry up ans start to try to find pple to do it with, otherwise i'm chanceless...that's actually what he said..and how is this related to a shift into 4d...does it really matter where you live if you're going to make the shift into 4d? and gold, what use do we have from gold in 4d?

liliane

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

i know that michael has his own way of expressing this and i also had a weird feeling but for me it was when he said that the greys had no soul, that's a tough one. but even so his instincs seem to point in the right direction. this is mostly about the gradual part of the shift and these so called safe zones are to serve as reference points available to the collective consciousness. creating spritual regions and bringing prosperity to them which promotes true self expression and a freedom beyond comprehension has the potential of effecting the planet in a similar way as the one hundredth monkey or maharishi effect.


does it really matter where you live if you're going to make the shift into 4d?

probably not unless you want to participate in the shift, have an active role, or in essence be the shift. some entities are just going to make the shift as you put it, but some feel the sorrows comming from the ones that are less confident and are trying to do what ever is possible to increase the harvest, this radiating of intent through collective collaboration gives hope to the notion that the whole of humanity along with the planet has a chance to evolve together. this chance is what seems to excite michael, it's very easy to fall into the whole messiah thing and get a bit carried away, that's natural and is to be expected to some degree, remember all this stuff should be taken with a grain of salt, we all have our own special way of looking at things. remenber the old saying "what planet are you from?" imagine beings from different planets trying to get along on a remote planet teaming with life and possibilities, now imagine those beings making an effort to experience each other's selfhood without judgement or resentment, just acceptance and understanding. becoming one includes discovering each other, being able to look at anyone and say "you are love, no matter what planet you're from", this is where i feel this is going and one of the big reasons we are here today. jmho.:).........................sylvain........... ................

[transiten]

hello again sylvanus...


...the "greys"...who are they actually...the guy who brainwashed me was a psychopath and with the perspective i now have he seemed to "have no soul"...if the greys really exist ( i have probably not understood the concept) how do i discern one from a person that just had a harsch upbringing (or choose it before reincarnating) and developed that kind of borderline/psychopath mentally disorder???

liliane

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

a "grey" in this case would be an entity who would seem to have "sold it's soul" for what ever profit, gain, or advancements dwelled upon. i imagine the details of such a reality might be out of our range of perception, from what i can discern the greys might well be operating from a slighly different vibration and might be accessing beings here on earth in an influential manner. michael describes them as a sub-culture with draconian descent which may be manufactured using cloning procedures. they may have lost the ability to reproduce or never had it in the first place, that is where the idea of a soulless entity comes from.

dan burish on the other hand feels that these enteties are living beings and deserve every little bit of compassion and understanding as any other race.:)...........................sylvain......... .................

[mwr1026]

in part 1 michael made reference to his et sources being nordic. i'm not very knowledgeable about all of this, but i think i have heard dw talk about nordics and greys both being negative path beings. if i've got it right, then the perspective st. claire expresses is that of beings that do not participate in ascension. any thoughts on this? i have been picking my way through the ra material at lawofone.info and while i am only about 1/3 of the way through it, it seems to confirm my thinking. am i missing something?

[aqcheryl]

im listening to the coast to coast am show with michael from january (youtube it)... this is the first ive ever heard of him, but even so much as i practice discernment on everything i hear - this one... i really am trying not to 'choose sides' here. im really trying to make sure i feel this way because its a real instinct and not merely because i believe what david has to say over michael.

but im not even halfway through this interview and already im shaking my head wondering where in the world this guy was dredged up from. from the start, he claims that he makes many mistakes, and doesnt know everything - then proceeds to contradict himself through the rest of the interview by saying this will happen... that will occur.

he makes the clear statement that theres no such thing as enlightenment or ascension - but at the beginning of the interview he considers the nordics as higher beings. well higher beings are technically ascended beings. i too have heard about them being negatives in the past, and yet michael references what he has learned from them. if this really is the case, then is it any wonder that he has nothing but doom and gloom for us? im sure he has some things right... for example his analogy that 2012 is the eye of the storm... the turbulence is outside of it. it doesnt mean we cant weather it, if we even need to weather it.

however, one of the first things i learned on my spiritual path that i have gained.... is that anything that makes you feel bad, is incorrect... not because you dont want to believe it, but because you feel it. for example such as discerning right from wrong. if you lean towards doing something wrong or negative, you end up feeling the consequences of it. before i could even decide if i wanted to 'listen' to how i felt about what michael was saying, i realized i was gaining a migraine, and felt sick to my stomach. i also realized i was shaking my head on a subconscious level 'no' to many things he was saying.

this community thing for example... everyone says it will bring us together, but actually that doesnt feel right. in a sense, yes it could... but theres a greater problem. for starters, going back into separate communities, takes our growth backwards to what life was like before the industrial age. granted we need to become closer in tune with mother earth and not rely on technology - but these communities everyone talks about will only separate us from each other. we will again see ourselves as individuals rather than as one... communities separated from each other, and can be at odds with each other.

instead what comes to me and i feel peace wash over me when i 'see' this... is that we will be a bit... 'not there'. for example, if in 3d we use the phrase 'grounded in reality'... 4d's phrase would be 'walking on cloud 9'. everything that was a major issue before in 3d, suddenly becomes petty as waves of peace and oneness wash over us, and we acknowledge each other in full acceptance. in this sense we become a global community, because we are all connected to the consciousness grid.

all i get from st clair is more and more separation and individualistic views. i had to stop listening and come here to search and find out if my thoughts on this were shared, and i did see a few posts...

i have not heard this pc interview, but i dont think i can even finish this coast to coast one... :d

[Truth180]

during my first part of my awakening it was to prepare and stock up and move out in the country to find a safe place. now that i really think about it and realize that it is more then just this one life it don't make any sense to me, because what we are doing is running away from ourselves. i mean the main reason to go to a safe place is to get away from people.

we all live on one planet and need get along other wise i say its all or nothing. :)

[Eric The Viking]

i have heard several sources that say that there are two types of greys, one of the grey types is a biologically engineered entity that has no soul (one cannot create new soul energies; except for the creator(s))and are programed to perform certain tasks. these engineered being are said to be shorter with much larger heads.

it is also said that the greys are in service to the annunaki; perhaps there is a pecking order here?

yet still, some proclaim that we ourselves posses the ability to genetically create these programable life forms.

these are all concievable senarios to me.

[billybobbutterball]

im listening to the coast to coast am show with michael from january (youtube it)... this is the first ive ever heard of him, but even so much as i practice discernment on everything i hear - this one... i really am trying not to 'choose sides' here. im really trying to make sure i feel this way because its a real instinct and not merely because i believe what david has to say over michael.

big snip

all i get from st clair is more and more separation and individualistic views. i had to stop listening and come here to search and find out if my thoughts on this were shared, and i did see a few posts...

i have not heard this pc interview, but i dont think i can even finish this coast to coast one... :d

cheryl, concerning your 'gut feelings': this is a bit off-topic but you should know that --so to speak -- a certain personage has been "divorced" by pc . it seems the party in question has been making unaccountably negative remarks -- both in private and public venues -- personally targeted to pc creators kerry & bill and their celebrated work.:eek:

it comes as no surprise that certain interview's and footprints have been gently ejected from the sacred halls of project camelot.:rolleyes:

best, etc., bbb