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transiten

06-21-2008, 05:29 AM

hi strider 44

i was just answering a thread about the double digitsynchronicityphenomenon: seeing 11,22,33,44 etc... (is that longer than "unemploymentcompensationblues that i translated to swedish? no..)

i'm a singer/songwriter...i lost my caréer due to a brainwash by a false meditationguru that took 6 years of my productive life, i had just left my "co-musiscians" had started to write songs with this kind of content, astrological, ecological etc...

now i'm 58, look like 45 also "good-looking" even if i would prefer that should not have any significance in this matter, i'm better than ever, i have studied metaphysics, psychlogy, astrology etc... and now i'm stuck with the idea that i'm too old...sweden is extremely occupied with youth, no recordcompany is willing to sign up a woman of my age, when i was in my 20:ies there were no problems, they were chasing me literally....

i hope for pluto reentering capricorn...then perhaps older age and experience will be evaluated........

at the same time i'm thinking that this long pause in my caréer has been necessary for my spiritual development.i'll have to wrestle with my inner demons like jealousy, bitterness, depression for not getting my energy and creativity out, i'm also living alone after several destructive relationships......

this website has helped a lot since i have only one friend i can really talk freely with about this and she lives far away and has a lot of personal problems so i must beware of not developing a codependencypattern with her......

i'm also prone to think that my destiny is to not fulfill my dreams:(sun square pluto, mars conj saturn in the 12.th, saturn con as square mc, mars square kiron) which is living a healthy ecological life with a supporting spiritually aware partner, finally doing what you described mr "44" which is teaching what we're discussing here, singing my songs toghether with supportive and spiritually inclined musiscians......

now i feel i have to excuse myself for nagging about this again, i feel egoistic and immature despite my age and knowledge...and at the same time i have this optimistic, humorous and romantic side....and want to defend my "inner child" who just want to come out and play and be happy without being stopped by jealous mothers and others, something i've "internalized, stopping myself.

it also feels embarrassing to admit that you're not successful; it somehow sticks to you like a "bad characteristic"...someone who is successful just is successful right???
like someone said in another thread:
it's all about "walking the line" encompassing and balancing the paradoxes within oneself, not projecting one's shadow onto others...being able to "contain it"...

even if i'm not a wanderer from sirius i am a dog-lover and sirius is also called "the dog-star" i think...by the way, the other day i was interviewed on the central station..."what are the most important things that happened to you this week?"...hmmmm i said, i don't know if i dare to tell...i'm on this website www.divinecosmos.com and....then i told them that i heared a radioprogram the day before here in sweden, where they finally start to talk about the global warming in our whole solarsystem....

they asked for my profession and took a picture...this will be the 1:st time in 20 years that i will be in the newspaper even if it's just a tiny pic....i've been performing and working but mostly in the background with children, elder pple, some demonstrations against the war in iraq and even if it has been on a greater stage it never "led" to anything compared to when i made a living out of it, touring, recording, radio, tv well you know...

so now i wonder if this is a "sign"? i dare tell about this website, i'm not completely unknown here, i told my profession and all the synchronicities...or if it's just another "side-track" where i'm being deluded or am deluding myself once more about getting another chance to come forward to tell my truth.....

...and of course my injured collie pajazzo...something happened to his foot when we were camping on paradisland and to my foot also and the syncs have been heavy with feet ever since...david also sprayed his ankle....

preceeding the interview i felt i was soon going to meet someone i know...there was this man...he is a famous singer..hmm i don't "know" him even if he is "wellknown",10 seconds later a womanneighbour from my allotment showed up (i never met her anywhere else before) and it turned out she had heared the program also and often read scientific magazins about these topics:d she is a nurse and to be true i had this prejudice she would never have an interest like that:o

this is a looooong prayer to the universe that i want to contribute, i want to "come out" with my music, socialize with kindred spirits...i'm not able or willing to live the life of a nun for the rest of my life..

thankyou strider44 for your short comment here, i don't want to leave sweden, but if that's the only possibility.... seems like pple in other countries and cities but gothenburg (i have the most difficult astrocartographic aspects possible here) appreciate me more.......or perhaps have i worked out my karma finally so i can stay???

liliane the transit

Strider44

06-21-2008, 09:15 AM

hi strider 44
i'm a singer/songwriter...i lost my caréer due to a brainwash by a false meditationguru that took 6 years of my productive life, i had just left my "co-musiscians" had started to write songs with this kind of content, astrological, ecological etc...

this website has helped a lot since i have only one friend i can really talk freely with about this and she lives far away and has a lot of personal problems so i must beware of not developing a codependencypattern with her......

even if i'm not a wanderer from sirius i am a dog-lover and sirius is also called "the dog-star" i think...by the way, the other day i was interviewed on the central station..."what are the most important things that happened to you this week?"...hmmmm i said, i don't know if i dare to tell...i'm on this website www.divinecosmos.com and....then i told them that i heared a radioprogram the day before here in sweden, where they finally start to talk about the global warming in our whole solarsystem....

liliane the transit

hey transiten nice story :) i understand what you mean about weather or not to link this site to your friend/reporter... well i have this vision that im on stage and tell everyone that 9/11 had nothing to do with alquida, that we've all been lied to.. i beleive strongly that people knowing 9/11 was a lie would be a major catalyst for change, there would be uproar and people would burn the white house to the ground (ideally)... but theres a high chance id be laughed at, or heckled offstage never to be heard of again.. so whats more important.. being famous and earning a living through music (without speaking my mind) or coming out with the 9/11 lie thing and commit career suicide? i cant say but ill cross that bridge in time.. i would say its never to late for anything, to hell what anyone else thinks, only narrow minded sheep ridicule whats different, better to live an hour as a tiger than a lifetime as a worm.

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ds37ds

06-21-2008, 01:05 PM

well it seems that the wanderer topic is all the rage lately. are we coming out of the closet individually and saying i am?

what i find strange about it is that it never gets discussed in concrete terms. experiences or specific memories are never discussed openly. is it because these can't be verbalized or is it something else? when i was younger, i had vivid memories but whenever i tried to articulate them, i would literally start shaking. forget what i was saying and in the end my mind would just go blank. it seemed as though i could know about it but i wasn't supposed to discuss it.

another thing i've found is that whenever it is discussed, the topic changes quickly or comes to a sudden halt. what's going on?

i have a sense of urgency that we are supposed to remember something at this time. i'm constantly getting synchronicities pertaining to:

"activation" - "re-membering" - "unity"

can we fill in each others blanks?

ps: this is the second time i'm posting this. something happened to my connection when i hit "send message". if it does'nt get through this time, something weird is happening - again.

Makram Abu-Shakra

06-21-2008, 04:13 PM

ds37ds wrote:

what i find strange about it is that it never gets discussed in concrete terms. experiences or specific memories are never discussed openly. is it because these can't be verbalized or is it something else?

here are my specific experiences, which i just finished writing for another email group last evening:

i remember when i was 10 years old or so, i was already aware that i was different, that i came to a strange world as one visits a foreign country, that i was on a mission, that there were people "on the other side" watching me like i was some kind of experiment; i remember longing to convince my mother that i was different, that i needed a special education and lifestyle in order to accomplish what i came to here to do.

over the many years, i learned how to penetrate the many layers of my self more deeply. after my first and last full-blown channeling experience, i must have been energized to the point that i had a vision of another incarnation; i was part of some advanced society on a planet that was all solid blue, a virgin planet (by virgin, i mean beginning a new density). and the vision said that this was venus. this was years before i read the ra material. you can read the full tale in the following archived thread:
http://www.divinecosmos.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8730

other experiences:

when i am in a visionary state, i feel as if i have a family of entities communicating to me; they form a circle within me and show me their varying points of views, as if i were speaking with a social memory complex. but this could be for various other reasons, like simply attracting other entities who come to aid.

also, there are specific rules that i cannot break it seems. and my inner self makes sure of it, for i have been through hell when i strayed off the path in the past. i cannot be judgmental towards others, and all the derivative things that would lead me down the negative path. it feels like this goes farther than just a matter of karmic grace; it feels like a support net to ensure i return home at the end of this incarnation.

i once had a very real dream of being up "on the mother ship" and they were instructing me on how to proceed with my incarnation, but this was after i started reading the ra material. this dream i can only consciously remember as a dream of white light. although i do remember there was some female entity that spoke to me. i also once had a related vision of tall beings of rapidly vibrating energy in large white halls. this was during what was probably the highest state of mind i've ever reached.

transiten

06-22-2008, 02:01 AM

hi

i did not quite get why strider44:s last post was barely accepted? anyway it really stroke me right into my greatest fear...if the small interview will be in the newspaper today with the link to this website, anyone can read what i have written here on the forum....and i've been heavily in politics with my songs and material while touring in the tradeunions with controversial ideas regarding environmental issues, systemchanges in swedish politics, revealing things about the hudson institute and being stopped from having more engagments, this preceeded the traumatic events with the "false prophet" and the the-rapist that tried to seduce me....

....so, did this happen because i was "wandering" a negative, non-spiritual path? and can you be a "wanderer" without experiences from ufo-dreams, mediuimistic gift etc? i'm attending a course in mediumship but that doesn't mean i'm going to have any conscious contact with other dimensions. synchronicity is my "speciality", i've been to mediums and i've been told i have support from a guide when doing astrology...

i have this experience: waking up on my birthday nov 18 in a house i bought with a woman that turned out to be mentally/emotionally disturbed (i left her and the house a short time after) in the middle of the night....the bed was situated next to the window, no houses close, a small road passing some meters from the house, a smal lake on the other side, no lights, forest all around......i was preparing a performance where i joked about both jehovas witnesses and other sects including the photonbelt, the latter that i just dismissed as "junk" at the time and we had been talking about that the area we were in was said to have had ufo-sightings...

...suddenly i find myself sitting up in my bed, it was not a dream, no "plot" before or after...just this blue light pumping through the window filling up the whole rather big room...not a single sound...i don't know for how long....next thing i remember is peeing in a bucket since we had no toilet yet annd going back to sleep, waking up in the morning with the thought what was that???

was it a "mild" ufo-contact??? this was in 1990 i think and i've never experienced anything like this ever since...but i think i would like to now if i knew it was a friendly contact...

...what are the criteria for being a wanderer?

liliane the transit while starting the answer time was 10.11ending it it's 11.00

transiten

06-22-2008, 08:38 AM

...and my post was....nr.11! and the picture was in the paper and the text was thast the most important thing that happened to me this week is that now "they" <lol> are talking about the global warming in the whole solarsystem and that my dog has injured a joint! so nothing dangerous happened...saturn transiting my 12.th house is trying to scare me, but it seems i've learned something finally...

liliane the transit

ds37ds

06-22-2008, 12:59 PM

hi makron, wow is all i can say! a lot of what you experienced as a child has a familiar ring to it. i, too, felt different to others and was "a stranger in a strange land".

i also had the distinct feeling that i was being watched over and protected and was probably saved on 2 occassions when i could have died. when i was a baby, i would have convulsions all the time and had some type of surgery involving the removal of fluid from my spine. from the time i can remember, i was woken in the early hours of the morning by energy rising through my body and exploding in my head. this went on for years but less frequently as time went by. as a young adult, when this happened, witin a day or two i had contact with my guides - in human form. these people would appear in my life "out of the blue" so to speak, i would have only one encounter and i would never see them again. nor did anyone know who they were. our conversations would be about my life and how it was going. i would always complain and say that i was tired and wanted to go home. they smiled and nodded understandingly. towards the end they would touch my arm and would feel this overwhelming energy boost as though i was being charged up.
i was never given any instructions or advice but i went off on feeling that my life was the way it should be.

another thought/impression i had was the restriction of movement in this density. i've always found getting from one place to another by any 3d means really slow. as a child i wondered why i could'nt just get wherever i wanted just by using thought.

the most profound experience i've had, however, was when i was in my early twenties in a "slightly altered state." one night i say a silvery bluish mesh blanket wrapped around the night sky. at the same time, could hear the universe pulsing. i can only compare it to the sound of a resonating submarine radar.i don't tink i have ever felt such intense joy in my entire life.

these are just some of my experiences but that's it for today!

yossarian

06-22-2008, 03:24 PM

Silvanus Sanctus Germanus

06-22-2008, 07:42 PM

i think that the notion that an earthling can awaken to the point of being a wanderer is very much possible. i believe it, and hold on to the hope that this brightening of the soul is attainable no matter where we come from and ra's predictions leave room for this possibility. that very thought, gives every individual the chance to wander:).....................sylvain.............. .....

transiten

06-23-2008, 04:08 AM

well until you become a wanderer you can always be a wonderer....

alice in wonderland (in swedish "below" and "wonder" is the same word and alice is my second name...

liliane

Makram Abu-Shakra

06-24-2008, 07:52 AM

so many interesting stories on this thread. :)

yossarian wrote: sometimes i get depressed thinking of ra's very low predictions for the number of people who are going to make the harvest

there is always that hopeful quote by ra (from session 65):

we may note at this point while you ponder the possibility/probability vortices that although you have many, many items which cause distress and thus offer seeking and service opportunities, there is always one container in that store of peace, love, light, and joy. this vortex may be very small, but to turn one’s back upon it is to forget the infinite possibilities of the present moment. could your planet polarize towards harmony in one fine, strong, moment of inspiration? yes, my friends. it is not probable; but it is ever possible.

we should each individually and collectively strive to reach that moment.

i don't think 3rd density is necessarily a bad place to be, it's just that there is so much more to strive for, and existence on this plane is hard work at times. one experience i don't share too much with other wanderers is the longing for "home". what i do have longing for, and it's practically perpetual, is to reach my higher states of mind. this may be the same thing in essence as longing for home, but higher states of mind are certainly not reserved for wanderers alone.

my main point is that the states of mind one can reach even in 3rd density can be magical enough that one gets a taste of the higher densities. and the act of bringing that light into this plane, to use a term seth used, brings so much "value fulfillment" that i can easily see myself opting to return to another 3rd density plane for that reason alone. and it is 10 times more fulfilling to be able to share this light with others, as difficult as this might be to achieve in most cases.

as for those who are repeating this cycle, what i sometimes find sad is that many (certainly not all) are stuck in a state of perpetual spiritual childhood. there is, it seems, very little desire to evolve on this planet. this realization has been the main catalyst for me to accentuate my ambitions towards making a difference on this plane. and as a reaction to this slowness on the part of others, there was a period in my life when i started speeding up my own evolution to a crazy degree, as if i were trying to influence the mind field in that regard. i would never do this consciously now, for i feel as if this would be infringing on people's free will, but i sometimes look back at my life and wonder at the reasons behind some of the weird head trips i went through.

butterfriends

06-24-2008, 03:01 PM

makram - what a wonderful post - thank you for sharing.

your comments about so many people being stuck in a spiritual childhood resonated strongly - yes that is one of the things that puzzles me now and again, that lack of longing to change, grow and evolve. and i agree with you btw about 3d being great in so many ways :)

doitpower

06-24-2008, 10:43 PM

i agree very much with the previous posts and

“makram - what a wonderful post - thank you for sharing.”
is almost exactly what i was going to say!

thanks to you butterfriends and makram and others
who posted.

to make my own contribution to the theme of this thread i will add
that i've had similar experiences of sensitivity and enlightenment
since my early childhood in the 1950's.

it was often very hard to manifest what i thought at the time what
would be the fruit of this inspiration, but i have seen encouraging
results in the effect my efforts have had on others lives and the
spiritual and also the secular part of this 3d world.

i may not have seen this nearly as well without the great amount
of catalyst in my life, the time spent in meditation and the
determination to continue seeking the light through it all, which
was frequently quite painful but well worth it. none of us can see the
entire impact of what we do. it’s still the choice to do it anyway that
can make the difference.

this sometimes causes us to doubt the value of going through the
hardships, as we perceive them.

looking back on these experiences, it was worthwhile.

it's not necessary to try to interest anyone if their heart is not already
open to it. we can present the information or ideas that we see may
help someone advance and the response they give will tell us whether
they will benefit from more, or not. i had a hard time learning to
accept this as well.

my experience with sharing health related knowledge, no mater how
costly it may have been to aquire or how useful i may know it to be,
has been similar.

while the result of these efforts may not be apparent at the time,
this doesn’t always mean that it wasn’t valuable service.

i've found it to be the true path of my heart to continue to seek and share as much as possible with those who are open to it.

wanderer or not, there is no other path for me to travel.

ds37ds

06-28-2008, 10:07 AM

hi to all! i have read and reread the posts on this thread and can see that it has developed along the lines of sharing ideas, experiences and offering helpful information and insights.there are certain points that have been lingering in my mind that i would like to address.

we are all aware that existence on this plane poses certain difficulties and pain through which we must progress in the course of our spiritual evolution. people, events, our surroundings etc. are the catalysts which spur on this ever spiralling expansion of conciousness. are we not all players in this game?
each of us, individually, is a catalyst in the events of the lives of other people, our environment at a local, national and global level.

are we spiritually mature at all levels and every aspect of ourselves? isn't the suffering and pain that we have gone through part of something we were to learn that we couldn't understand or refused to understand at first? this process as a matter of course is ever speeding up and those who are not prepared are being dragged kicking and screaming like a stubborn children. that is part of why there has been such an upsurge in the suffering and pain we are seeing [and feeling] as this process is underway.

considering that we are all learning from each other, those who may be considered "spiritually immature" become the catalyst that is in turn teaching others something equally difficult :

the art of patience!

Strider44

06-30-2008, 09:58 AM

hi to all! i have read and reread the posts on this thread and can see that it has developed along the lines of sharing ideas, experiences and offering helpful information and insights.there are certain points that have been lingering in my mind that i would like to address.

we are all aware that existence on this plane poses certain difficulties and pain through which we must progress in the course of our spiritual evolution. people, events, our surroundings etc. are the catalysts which spur on this ever spiralling expansion of conciousness. are we not all players in this game?
each of us, individually, is a catalyst in the events of the lives of other people, our environment at a local, national and global level.

considering that we are all learning from each other, those who may be considered "spiritually immature" become the catalyst that is in turn teaching others something equally difficult :

the art of patience!

good point!, it should also encourage us to be more creative with the things we know which may help/teach/inspire someone.

AmelieJolie

06-30-2008, 02:54 PM

hi there.

i've always felt kind of different, so i guess i could be a wanderer.

stephaniekraft

07-01-2008, 12:36 PM

metaphysics,

yes, you can find out if you are a wanderer. one way is through hynotherapy. in these sessions, you are in your soul-state and can find out where your soul first incarnated. you can also find out lots of other information about your soul.

good luck in your search.
stephanie

AllyKat

07-01-2008, 05:11 PM

i feel like i am a starseed!!

stephaniekraft

07-02-2008, 02:30 AM

the moderator deleted some words from my last post and now it does not make any sense. i was talking about a particular kind of hypnotherapy that brings you to your soul-state. in regular hypnotherapy you are not in your soul-state.

stephanie

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AmelieJolie

07-02-2008, 02:58 AM

i look forward to the day when my people may find me again and beam me up!

i feel i may be a venusian as i thrive on plenty of love and harmony....i also have a great affinity for music. i need a lot of love. i guess i may have got stuck here karmically due to the stark difference between this world and my other, and difficulties in adapting.........

FooSnik

07-02-2008, 07:54 AM

when i was a baby, i would have convulsions all the time and had some type of surgery involving the removal of fluid from my spine. from the time i can remember, i was woken in the early hours of the morning by energy rising through my body and exploding in my head.

i have read about this happening to wanderers. i read that sometimes a wanderer's energy level or frequency is too high for the human body to withstand, resulting in hospitalizations as a child. i have heard that a wanderer will deliberately try to bring through as much energy as humanly possible in order to better benefit the planet. maxing out the potential of the body and even surpassing the limitations a bit in trying to find exactly what the limit is.

also in regards to the veil. a veil is deliberately placed over many wanderers because it would simply be too hard to live here knowing where they came from. that goes for all people as well, not just wanderers. it would be too hard to live here knowing the source in which they came that is so full of unexplainable bliss. many people returning from a near death experience suffer from depression because they want to go back to that beautiful source.

just a thought. cheers!

ds37ds

07-02-2008, 08:30 AM

stehaniekraft wrote:

"yes, you can find out if you are a wanderer. one way is through hypnotherapy. in these sessions, you are in your soul-state and find out where your soul first incarnated."

when i read this, all these alarm bells and loud sirens went off in my head. i, personally, would discourage this method of trying to remember and would even go as far as saying that it would be a mistake. i know that we all want to remember. the question is figuring out what and why you are trying to remember. are you trying to remember yourself as you were as a 3d form in the past? are you trying to remember your soul? aren't you already you? or are you trying to find out who you are now by discovering who you were in the past?

the process of remembering isn't a simple thing. there are reasons why we don't remember as much as we would like to. one of them is that it interferes with our purpose/mission. having too much of this information would change the way you operated and affect your life decisions. we are given glimpses and the knowledge we need when we need to have it. are you ready to discover what your first incarnation was? you had no conscious, so you will never actually know. or are you trying to get back to the source from which you came?

i believe that this type of discovery for anyone who isn't highly spiritually advanced would set everything out of balance. you already know what you should know and this increases as you progress in your life and expand your consciousness and wisdom and compassion and and and...................!

i would be intersted to know what happened to the people who had this regression therapy and how it affected their lives

take care!

Silvanus Sanctus Germanus

07-02-2008, 12:36 PM

hi ds37ds, i resonate very well with what you're describing. i distincly remember a period in my childhood where i would remember too much and consciously wipe my own memory over and over again, this is very personal because it touches on understanding that is mostly kept to ourselves and verrry rarely discussed with others, this is what i love the most about this forum.

it all comes back to genuine free will, having complete faith in the now or in what is, freedom to rediscover each moment. some like to associate sanity with forgetfullness, meaning to sanitise our "being" of all past "doings"..................sylvain......................

stephaniekraft

07-02-2008, 12:43 PM

ds37ds,

i actually agree with most of what you wrote. we are always protected by our guides and only receive as much information as we are ready for. our missions and other important information is not revealed until we are ready or not at all if it will interfere with our path. i agree that our "forgetfullness" or the "veil" is an important part of this game.

there are many books out there with cases of people who have had regressions and the affect it has had on them.

stephanie

stephaniekraft

07-02-2008, 01:33 PM

let me add that the veil is thinning and it is now time to remember who we are. that is the reason there are so many ways to help us with this and the reason they did not exist before. also, many people are finding out more about who they are on their own. everything is changing now and i do think it is time to remember who we are while in these bodies. i think it is really exciting!

of course, those who are not ready will not learn more than they can handle. this is all monitored by our guides and they use their judgement to decide what we are ready for.

stephanie

Itheosahn

07-03-2008, 09:32 PM

definately a wander here too...

i actually think i'm from another octave entirely.... check out drunvalos work for a good explanation of it, im pretty sure david talks about it too...

then i came here, sort of travelling, though i could help out or something, spend a very long time in the area of cassiopiea, from there some lifetimes in the alpha draconi area, then orion. a smattering of sirian lifetimes, and now i'm site seeing earth. :)

its beautiful here, but i miss home sometimes very much. :)

ds37ds

07-04-2008, 01:44 AM

hi stephanie,

i agree with some of the things you are saying. the veil is thinning now, our spiritual evolution has accelerated enormously and people are remembering who they are on their own and to the degree that they can handle mentally.

regression therapy was first introduced by a handful of progressive psychiatrists in the late 70's. it was used to treat people who had severe mental or behavioural problems that couldn't be treated using regular methods. using past life regression therapy, it was discovered that the problems the patients were having stemmed from unresolved issues and events that had occured in previous incarnations. it proved to be a very useful tool that helped many people solve their problems and get on with their lives.

my objection to using this method is that i consider it a rather violent way to pierce the veil. if someone has already acknowledged their identity and wishes to explore it more deeply, i'd say it wouldn't pose too many problems, but using it to discover who you are on a basic level may be quite rough on the psyche of somebody who is ill-prepared or unsuspecting of the impact of this type of revelation. for this reason, it should be approached with a sense of responsibility by both parties.

to achieve positive results without outside help, we are told to meditate, peel back the layers gradually and heal ourselves with our higher self for guidance.

regards

ayadew

10-31-2008, 04:42 AM

hello friends. thank you for coming to my thread.

i am very found of this forum, it fills me with positive energy. i do not post much though, and have only now created an account. i thought of sharing of myself with you, it feels only natural to me.

perhaps i am a wanderer. i’m not sure.

my most intense characteristic is that i’ve never felt part of my family or the world. i’ve tried, but there has never been true loyalty to “here” = my life situation. perhaps i do not understand all things about loyalty since it has never been important, or was. this detatchment has given me much pain and sorrow, but i guess it’s not much different from what most people go through. we all must find our place, but i’m not even halfway doing that. my views constantly changing, althought the ultimate goal is to find some spiritual satability.
for as long as i can remember in my 20 years i have been a searcher, indulging carelessly into everything that crossed my mind. martial arts, religion, music, art, meditation, demonology, composing novels, traveling, carnal experiments, mathematics, tarot, etc etc. many philosophies and views of existence i have explored or re-invented, for most paradoxes and contradictions are already known to man, limited as we are in this 3:rd density world. i thought i had whole new views of thinking, only to realise people had thought this over 4000 years ago already.

my interests has been many, but a direct result of this is that i have got no deeper understanding in any of my fleeting interests. my spiritual hunger is seemingly insatible, almost comparable with material gluttony.
the thought of that disgusts me sometimes, but i am so in love with knowledge. i wish to know all of it. all people, all their thoughts and experiences, all logic and paradoxes which clusters our view of existence. i cannot simply stop and focus on one thing, then i will miss so many experiences. a common interest has been art, music and beauty in general. i cannot picture my life without music and things to be marveled by, they feel very natural and fundamental.

materialism itself has never been of much worth to me unless it could or gave promise to some spiritual experience. video games has always been a central part of my life, and i now realise it’s only because they were a gateway to a world beyond this.

my family did find me odd, and still does. my mother seriously wounding the little known of self i had accumulated in my early days, leaving the permanent proof that i never my father handling me with care, but like nitroglycerine, just waiting to explode. my sister, always loving, but also defensive. the people of my community never accepting me, giving me no encouragement or reason to be with them. i don’t think i ever hated them for it. i met it with cold neutrality, their behaviour completely alien to me.

in my later years, i’ve come to understand the value of other people. it struck me quite hard, and since then i’ve been quite kind and loving. the love for others is the only reason i don’t grow detatched again, dreaming away to other things. to worlds and realities that has never been in this existence. i try to help awaken people to their spiritual side occasionally. i made some feeble attempts on it early too. i’m still not very good at it. i have no structured arguments other than that it’s quite fulfilling and fascinating knowing yourself more.

i still cannot fully understand other people though. i would make a terrible psychiatrist! but i try, and i still love them.

so in most ways my personality does represent an wanderer, although with some contradictions. there has not been a natural attatchment or dedicaiton to other people. it has grown over time. this might be because of my childhood experiences, i’m not sure.

i stumbled upon the law of one information by recommendation from a friend, who felt drawn to this. and as i read more i also felt very drawn to this. it was with great scepticism at first, but as information was unraveled to me it all made sense. desires i had never been aware of came to me, and it was all in line with everything of law of one. it was the most intense feeling of “coming home” i’ve ever felt in my life. all my unstructured and confusing spiritual experiences started to make sense.

sadly i’m still in doubt. i am bound to the basic rules of the 3rd density existence, i don’t wish to have my
expectations broken and i wish control over my fate. it’s fear perhaps. i cannot give my whole trust to ra’s words, because i would be in deep despair should they not be fullfilled and likely consciously end my existence rather than being dead inside from the unfullfillment. it would be so easy to have the ascension fix all my problems for me, to chape the world to my taste. a little too easy. a fitting cynical mentality for the current world, is it not?

but i’m still positive. i have not percieved anything malicious with the law of one, for noone would try to decieve if they had no negative intentions. i look forward to a new world filled with love, together with all of you.

larissa

10-31-2008, 08:47 AM

hey, ayadew, thanks for the post. everything you say is totally familiar to me, you probably have noticed that the people on this forum will understand you and are much like you. i felt safe immediately when i found this forum.

being doubtful and skeptical is normal for us, but i made this determination awhile back, that i was going to get off the fence and be as openminded as possible, without being gullible. that has opened up so much more for me, and i pay attention to things i would have normally passed by before.

from everything i have gathered on the subject, i would say there is a 99.9% chance that you are a wanderer. but no need to get hung up on that, it's just nice to know the reason we are so different from the others here on this earth.

the only reason we are here is to bring our vibration - there is actually no need for any particular action. being open hearted and loving is our natural state of being, and when we finally decide to be ourselves, that will come to the forefront with no effort. the effort is in detaching from the hooks in this world and being truly free.

also, when we go in the direction of being who we really are, the syncronicities increase, and all the knowledge that we crave comes flooding in. everything comes at exactly the right time and in the best way. reaching the state of no effort is wonderful, one just sits back and lets it all come. i love going there, it happens regularly, but not always, because there's always another challenge to overcome.

but so what, it's fun. one thing you didn't mention that i have is i get bored easily, and need to keep moving. literally. i keep changing my circumstances and also love to travel. i have been in this place for almost a year, and can't wait to leave, although my life here is very good.

anyway, nice talking to you. i will leave a link in your messages, as i don't know if it would be approved to post it here. it has had a profound effect on me, it links in with the law of one, with an interesting twist. see you around....

yossarian

10-31-2008, 11:50 AM

i don't identify with every description people make of themselves on this forum.

for instance i can't identify with the ufo interests or having paranormal experiences as a child. (i found david through his association with carla rueckert, and i found carla and her work through a random internet link. before i read the loo i hadn't given much thought to ufos.)

but i really identify with your post - it could be a description of me with very few changes. i also recently discovered that the reason i buried myself in video-games was that i was looking for a better world, a world that i knew i could find somewhere and the closest thing was fantasy books and video games. to this day nothing excites me like the thought of being able to live in one of these imaginary, heavenly worlds that writers like tolkien describe. most of my life i've been depressed, not because my own life is bad but because the world is so wrong.

www.scottmandelker.com/articles/etquiz.html

there is a test that is supposed to tell you if you're a wanderer. i only score a 65 though, which is considered borderline. i've been considering this question for two years now, and if i ask intuitively the answer is that i am one. of course that thought then just makes me feel guilty for not doing more to help the world. egads!

much love,
brian

ayadew

10-31-2008, 12:26 PM

thanks for your post larissa. it's kind of you to provide such instant acceptance.

having a free will provides us with the ability to be skeptical, to chose our reality. i appreciate this gift...
i try to be openminded too, it's all i can do really, to learn more about the world and myself. i try to hold no definite belives, and try to not label myself.
as you say, it's nice to know our orgin, but it has no practical meaning for us.
so i won't run around like an idiot screaming "i'm an alien" =d

as i have explored myself, i feel very comfortable and natural in "open hearted and loving" as you say. i have tried other states of mind, but it's all felt fake. this is genuine, who i am! and all i want to be, forever i think.
at least it feels like a state i could hold forever. love is the only feeling i've had that i cannot get bored or tired of.

so i do get i get bored easily too like you, it's the reason i've had so many interests.
i need to keep moving, to see new things. there is no material spot known to me as "home", it's as if my heart is my home. i suppose you feel that way too.

there are places though, where i feel comfortable/uncomfortable in. places with a feeling malevolent intent or loving acceptance, but i think most people are susceptible to this. i find that fascinating, you need no visual aid to feel such things around you, and no particular deep state of mind. that if anything proves that we're spiritual beings susceptible to energy.
since most people have experienced such, i suppose it's a good reason to get people interested in esoteric stuff.

the link you provided is indeed not approved here, but it's an interesting viewpoint indeed.

transiten

10-31-2008, 12:34 PM

hello adayew!

nice to have still a sceptical believer from "götet" on the forum. i took the test also, but only scored btw 65-70, f.i. i'm very emotional and never thought there was anything strange with the colours of mother nature that i visit as often as possible, but to be true, i don't care if i'm a wanderer since if they exist i can always become one. lol!

greetings from liliane transiten

transiten

10-31-2008, 02:28 PM

ooops...

...ayadew...not very swedishsounding name anyway..lol

transiten

ayadew

10-31-2008, 05:59 PM

yossarian: it's nice to hear you can identify yourself with me, although there are arguably more preferable fates in life. but we manage, and we learned a lot this way.

i've thought quite a bit on that test too, but i can't answer them definitely. but i do get what they point to, and i guess i'd score fairly high on it like you.

transiten: "ayadew" is simply a name i used in the beginning for internet privacy reasons, it has nothing to do with my real name. novadays i don't care much for such, but i've kept it. ^^
and yes, i'm from sweden too!

much love, ayadew

transiten

10-31-2008, 07:08 PM

hello awayed! (lol)

i was only joking explaining away the spellingerror saying it was not swedishsounding, i have this somewhat exaggerated love making jokes when i misunderstood something, but thanks for the respons anyway, hej hej!

liliane transiten

Enivid

04-14-2009, 02:27 PM

hi

i have been around on this forum for a while and been on divine cosmos for i think 2 years. david has really helped me awaken to who i am, but at the same time i have been listening to alot of other spiritual people and also studied esoteric material that i haven't seen that david has touched.

i have had a feeling that i was a wanderer but i am a very skeptic person and i just don't believe things like that. now i know that i am a wanderer and i have become a self-learned spiritual guide.

i am the only one that i know in real-life that has reached this state of knowing and i feel alone. what i mean is that i would like to plan things with other wanderers so we can raise the vibrations.

also, how do you approach being a wanderer in a good way? i feel so arrogant if i say that i choosed this life to help my fellow souls to succeed in the great shift. i know i am not better then anyone else, but people tend to believe that if you are a wanderer and they are not, then you say you are better. even if you say we all are god (the infinite creator) :).

at the same time we all are wanderes, since we all come from somewhere else before entering this life. even if our souls are new or old.

is there a place where wanderers are gathered and organised? there should be at least one out of every sixty person in every town and hood so we can help our fellow humans and souls to reach a higher understanding of life.

i am not talking about this with people that aren't ready, but i am sharing the knowledge and science of how reality is working, and planting seeds. but i would love to see somekind of place where we can help eachother.

for example we might have skills of helping eachother making money so we can use this money for good. that's my biggest problem, money. (err, my only problem :p). i also don't like that i work for a company that drains my energy even if i am very positive and spread love all around me :). i see my mission to help people with the great shift as my work!

i have a book called "how i clobbered every bureaucratic cash-confiscatory agency known to man" by mary elizabeth croft but i haven't had time to read it cover to cover. also i live in sweden and its about america and canadian agencies. but things like that could help us spiritual souls to legally live free and help others regaining their soul and raising the vibration.

who else knows you're truly a wanderer, and what do you do? :)

lots of love
- enivid

LoveWins

04-14-2009, 06:01 PM

yes i believe i am a wanderer. i have no idea any particular planet or such that i am from. i only know that ever since i was old enough to remember, i would look up at the sky ( especially at night) and the stars and feel a sadness, like being very homesick.

still to this day i do this , even having come to accept i clearly am here for a reason or i wouldn't be here :-) i believe the reason has to do with love and i have had some small clues , such as being told ( lucid dreaming) that my son came here to help me. as if i asked him to do this. during this revelation, i felt like he was really a very close friend to me. in real life, he has been quite a challenge to raise. he's 27 now and still has problems dealing with life.

often i wonder why i asked him to do this when it seems so hard for him...

anyway, i hadn't heard the term wanderer until i was listening to david in an interview mention it and i answered all the questions with a yes. so it makes sense.. but i will admit even writing about it makes me feel homesick, and i will often think " i can't wait till i can go home"... whereever that is :-)

HelioHelix

04-14-2009, 08:27 PM

i cannot say definitively whether or not i think i am, but i did score highly on the starseed quiz that david has discussed on c2c. i got a 7, and it said that more than 4 or 5 is likely. the ones that resonated most with me were on the topics of atlantis, which i have been fascinated by since i was a child, and ufos as well. i have had two ufo experiences, one was a sighting with my father and the other was in a dream several years later.

i have never really felt like a part of the fabric of any where that i've been except with my family. i've always been a bit of an outsider since i was younger and tend to be more independant.

the material that david discusses in the science of peace, what is my purpose? and science of ascension have all really resonated with me.

i have never had the opportunity to meet and discuss this with a channeler, but for some reason i have recently begin to feel like i was an old soul. i don't know why it just struck me with a strange intuitiveness as i was reading about atlantis and rama in davids book the science of ascension.

so basically in a nutshell, all you're getting out of me is a big maybe.

possibly i'll learn something new in david's "wanderer awakening" project which i am very excited for.

Purple Dragon

04-14-2009, 09:27 PM

i am the only one that i know in real-life that has reached this state of knowing and i feel alone. what i mean is that i would like to plan things with other wanderers so we can raise the vibrations.

we are never alone, we are one. this site helps us all remember that :) a great thread for working with others is the meditation experiment thread in the positive affirmations forum, it may be what you are looking for?

also, how do you approach being a wanderer in a good way? i feel so arrogant if i say that i choosed this life to help my fellow souls to succeed in the great shift. i know i am not better then anyone else, but people tend to believe that if you are a wanderer and they are not, then you say you are better. even if you say we all are god (the infinite creator) :).

we can't feel badly (which stem's from fear) for choosing the path of sto. if others are going to believe that you are better than them, it is their choice to make, not yours. we can only help show the path of light, it is the other-self that has to chose to walk it or ignore it.

for example we might have skills of helping eachother making money so we can use this money for good. that's my biggest problem, money. (err, my only problem :p). i also don't like that i work for a company that drains my energy even if i am very positive and spread love all around me :). i see my mission to help people with the great shift as my work!

money is a power being held over us that in some ways we are powerless to defend ourselves. our society is built on material possessions and property, when really we all own everything as we are all one, so why should we even need money? i truly believe that one day we will be able to give up money, once we base our planet on love instead of greed.

but we need to have jobs to be able to survive, we also have a choice what we do. i would suggest making the choice to not let your place of work drain your energy. you are a being of light and have the power to shine on all those around you, you just need to choose to love whatever you are doing, every minute of every day. easier said than done yes, but if the thought is in your mind every time you feel unhappy, believing it will follow.

Jehanne

04-15-2009, 01:38 AM

i always hear lots of stories from wanderers on metaphysical sites, but i don't hear many from people who _aren't_ wanderers.

i'm pretty sure i'm not a wanderer :) i seem to have pretty close ties to the earth and to humanity, i've definitely been incarnating on the earth for at least a few thousand years anyway.

well, i think that many beings who are awakening can be considered wanderers even if they are earth natives. for me it is a state of being rather than having to be from an entirely different planet. with that in mind, i believe that many of us who are drawn to this kind of material are wanderers or are becoming of that state of being. i think we should be careful in identifying too much with being a wanderer or not, because it can cause a sense of separation, and no matter what, we have chosen to be here on earth at this given moment, so we are all earthlings now and are here to carry out something, we are all important.
i read the lists on how to tell if you are a wanderer, and i fit most of the statements perfectly, but i do not have any memories of other planets of lives elsewhere, yet i very much feel as if i am here on a mission with a purpose. i have memories of lives here on earth going back several thousands of years and i love this earth very much and am constantly awed by its beauty and magnificence. yet, i still feel like i am not part of it completely, but i am fully committed to being here on this earth and working towards bringing the people to the light. i do not know what all of this means, if i am a true wanderer or not, but in the end i guess what matters the most is to know your mission, and not the details of how or where you came from. i suppose also, all things will be revealed in time, and each step along the path has its worth.

LoveWins

04-23-2009, 06:30 AM

hi

also, how do you approach being a wanderer in a good way? i feel so arrogant if i say that i choosed this life to help my fellow souls to succeed in the great shift. i know i am not better then anyone else, but people tend to believe that if you are a wanderer and they are not, then you say you are better. even if you say we all are god (the infinite creator) :).

at the same time we all are wanderes, since we all come from somewhere else before entering this life. even if our souls are new or old.

is there a place where wanderers are gathered and organised? there should be at least one out of every sixty person in every town and hood so we can help our fellow humans and souls to reach a higher understanding of life.

who else knows you're truly a wanderer, and what do you do? :)

lots of love - enivid

well, i think that many beings who are awakening can be considered wanderers even if they are earth natives. for me it is a state of being rather than having to be from an entirely different planet. with that in mind, i believe that many of us who are drawn to this kind of material are wanderers or are becoming of that state of being. .
i read the lists on how to tell if you are a wanderer, and i fit most of the statements perfectly, but i do not have any memories of other planets of lives elsewhere, yet i very much feel as if i am here on a mission with a purpose.

enivad,

i don't think you are being arrogant in saying you feel you chose this life to help others with the shift. that is your sense of purpose and if it were me i would feel grateful to feel such a strong sense of purpose and such a noble one. sure it is easy to fall into arrogancy, we all do, but you sound like you keep a check on yourself and come across with humility, grace, and a humble desire to help others! :-)

i don't see why we ( those reading this thread) can't all agree consciously to link in intention with our desire for more to awaken, even by means of the net. surely if we all focus on that intention the result can only be that there will begin to be ways for wanderers / awakened ones , and those who are feeling the nudge but not yet aware to come together on a local level.

i believe it will happen. so certainly i am "with" you on this :-)

old_friend

04-25-2009, 09:46 PM

hi all,

this is my first post!

i have been following wilcock since february, after an interesting chain of events (this life).

some bits and pieces..

i'm from long island, ny. when i was younger i had alien/ufo dreams. i always had a feeling of someone else being in the room/house and would see "things".

in high school i studied and practiced lucid dreaming. i also visited montauk quite a few times. i spent the majority of my time playing music. i was also very open to eastern philosophy (i was raised in a strict catholic family, went to catholic school, was an alter boy). i don't know why i was so open to so many different ideas..

after years of traveling and volunteering i made my to north carolina. i was hired for a summer job in colorado-- only because i happened to live in nc at the time (the interviewer was from the same area in nc where i was living at the time).

i have grown so much since living out here.

fast forward a couple of years> my gf and i have had several paranormal experiences, culminating with a very intense experience over valentines day weekend, 2009.

it was a life changing experience. this led me to do a google.video search, and david wilcock's 2012 video came up.

and that's how i found him and all of this great info (projectcamelot and so much more).

my gf is convinced i am a wanderer. i need to get "from elsewhere"

anyway, i'm not going to say i am or not, not my place right now.

Eddie

04-26-2009, 08:14 AM

i don't know that i am a wanderer. i took the "are you a wanderer" quiz over at llresearch, and scored something like 70 or 75%, which means i could be; but i know that i am deeply connected here, and have incarnated here many times (i just posted a reply to another thread on this site, recounting memories of some of my incarnations stretching back to paleoindian times). i don't feel like i belong anywhere else.

i will mention, though, that all of my life, i have had a memory of being at the edge of a quiet sea, the shore of which is composed of briliantly red soil; it is at night, but the soil is so red, that its color is even visible at night. there is no plant life visible. with this memory i have a sense of profound age, stretching back billions of years; so perhaps i was once somewhere else.

annecat

06-05-2009, 04:00 PM

if wanderer is " a soul of extraterrestial or angelic origin" , i guess i should answer yes. i do not know where "my soulenergy" comes from, i kind of "joke" that i am "a tall nordic blonde" or "a pleiadian" as people who have seen me say so.

i feel most connected to angelic energies. my daughter when she was just over two years old told her nanny that i /her mother am not a humanbeing but "an angel" showing of a picture of "barbielike doll with silver dress/spacesuit" (the toycatalogue where the picture was mysteriously disappeared and none toystores sold that doll.).

couple of times people have claimed that they had seen " an angel" standing behind me (like many years ago i was talking to my "spiritual" friend in a cafe when he said that "there is a huge angel standing behind you", i knew it, but thought that it was just my imagination...until a man from next table came to me looking shocked, touching my hand, saying his blessings .honestly he looked like he had just seen an angel when looking over my shoulder).

there was a time (nine eight years ago) when i did more poweryoga, making my "kundaline" energy really rise (maybe more than i was able to handle in my pshysical body, thus the last seven years i have been healing myself, living quiet life) attracting to my life people who wanted to test their spiritual skills/psychic energies with me. some (if not all )of those people were wanderers.

there was especially one man, a shaman, who in this life is a mathematician
(link to me by pastlife in german, timetravel experiment, other story) who tried to "scare me". he once invited me over "for dinner", when i asked(mentally) for protection (i do not know who my "guides or space contacts" are, but i trust them) the table and chairs around me turned icy cold.(smile).
they say that up there where the angels live, the air is icy cold. and i believe that. i know that i have that "weird" energy around me (which at times makes the lightbulbs go off all too often, like last night it took all the electricity off.)

around 2005 i started to see the same dream over and over again. in that dream i was back being 6 to 9 years of age in our farm/summercottage. it was night, and i was sleeping with my brother in the livingroom, when the world outside turned bright. i woke up and run to the window. my brother was worried and asked me to come back to bed. i did not, as i was so thrilled over the bright light. it was a huge spaceship which landed to our field.
suddenly i flew throught the window and time stood still making my brother to "freeze" where he was by the window. by the spaceship stood that beautiful angel like woman smiling at me. my english is not good enought, or there is no words, to describe the happiness, joy of seeing her.
but, actually, i kind of merged with her, becoming her. (i was later taken to the spacecraft where my physical body was "scanned" for emotions (?).did i meet myself from the future ? ).

anyway, like many starseeds, wanderers, i do not feel connected to my "childhood biological family", but i called my mother and i told about the dream. her reply was " that could very well be true. don' t you remember, it was on the news what happened on our summercottage/farm".

after that conversation i have started to recall more and more.

anne

Skyline45

06-05-2009, 09:25 PM

i really have no idea.. i think i am like i feel something in me really strongly telling me that i am. not only that i have a friend that can see auroras and she is really confused by me, because she can't c mine. she says she thinks something is guarding me or something. but i really wish that i could find out if i'm a wanderer also.

Enivid

06-06-2009, 10:48 AM

we are never alone, we are one. this site helps us all remember that a great thread for working with others is the meditation experiment thread in the positive affirmations forum, it may be what you are looking for?

hmm. i was looking for ways of more practically improving life for is all. such as economic reforms, organizations working for free energy and etc. not meditation, sure it do affect the mind. but when they did meditate in war torn areas and the crime rate went down it wen't back up and i heard it even increased after. i don't believe we can change things only through our mind, we must do it practically in real life.

and how can we do that?

i am working on an economic reform here in sweden but so far its just over internet with people from all around the country. next step is an organisation and from that really good things will come.

that is what i am looking for.

and i know it will come! :) thanks for your answer purple dragon!

- enivid

Stephen

06-11-2009, 08:13 AM

i am just wondering if anyone else here is aware of being a wanderer?hi stephanie :)

in your opinion, how does someone find out http://forums.offtopic.com/images/smilies/dunno.gif

SONOFMAN

06-12-2009, 04:58 AM

i have spent nearly ten years, since i first read the ra series, convincing myself i can not be a wanderer. "i can not be so special and different." only in the past month or two has the weight of the concept become so crushing i finally admitted to a close friend that i probably am.

simultaneously i found myself and everyone around me submerged in intense testing/catalyst. horrifying communication issues with my wife, children that are basically lunatics all of a sudden for no reason, dreams of all sorts so vivid and unreal with no point other than leaving fear and loneliness upon awakening, physical ailments to name a few just on my end. no telling how the others are perceiving all of this, i dare not mention my little revelation to them at this point.

i suffer from something i call "instant karma." i can't get away with anything selfish, never have. i can honestly say i have probably paid for anything i have done negatively so soon after wards that i know exactly why i am forgiving who and for what and i feel the weight gone instantly.

i have also tremendous luck. the wife is often disgusted or amazed that i can always walk out of any situation completely fulfilled, happy, alive, and in one piece, no matter the odds or reality that others would face. i never wanted many "things" in life so we as a family don't have lots of "stuff". but anything i feel the family or i honestly need it finds it's way to us. whether it is a lawn mower (someone just out of the blue offered us a very nice lawnmower we could never afford after i suggested to the wife we really needed one) or job (people will just call and offer me a job when it is time for me to work).

all the same, i still feel a bit in denial. maybe just a fear of admitting i am different in a way that would make me feel better than others. and setting myself up in the end for a foolish error. maybe it has taken this long, just so that i wouldn't feel that way when i woke up to it. or maybe i am just not a wanderer and i am slightly cookoo.

Blacksunshine

06-12-2009, 09:08 AM

i have a really hard time (hhahah) trying to understand anything without time. at the same time however, i have very very little memory of my "past" it goes so fast, not my past lives, but my past of this life. i have such a small amount of memory of jr high, highschool, i remember nothing of being a child up to about 7 or 8. then i have small blipits, but not much. it's hard to listen to "remember when" stories, because i either dont remember them, or i wasnt' there, but wish i could have the same thing to do with my friends of a long time ago. i cant tho, i plain dont remember.

the few memories i do have are those of impactful humiliation or impactful sorrow or hurt. now, i dont dwell on those memories or let them have control over my current being. but even back to my early 20's (i just turned 30) it's slipping away so fast, i am starting to loose i donno maybe 26ish.

so while i cant imagine a world of no time, becuase i have places i have to be at a certain time.....i dont live in time, because i have no "memory" of which to make a grid....if that makes any sence.

i have no clue where i wonder from, but i know i'm a wonderer. i love it! it's hard and the work beats you up, but i absoltely love it, so much that i think that i will continue to put myself thru 3d, just to have it. however when i sit thru the trials of 3d, i think....damn, i would rather be watching ;).

i may be on a different page then what this thread started at, but it triggered the thought in me.

blessed be.

Poemind

06-12-2009, 09:18 AM

given the definition as i understand it, i would say that i am indeed a wanderer. but as i always hold onto a bit of healthy skepticism i have to say that i can't say for certain.

i have always felt a little out of place. i've always felt different without really knowing why. i'm able to find a job and keep it, yet i have yet to find a job that really fits me, and question whether i ever will.

i've always felt that the truth of existence is probably a great deal stranger than the average person believes it to be. so for these reasons i would say "yes". although, i have no objective way of knowing if i'm a soul from another world or not.

Enivid

06-12-2009, 09:22 AM

thanks for your comment sonofman, i don't cling to the ego. i just am. and i ain't afraid of anything not even death. for all that i know i am dead.

i keep wondering why i exist. :) and i am grateful that the one infinite creator have give me an infinite life. i am also grateful to the gods that created the humans, and our evolution. i am amazed at the spiders, bees, flowers, clouds, rivers, stars, sun, people, personalities and so on.

why am i aware? i've been thinking about it since i was a kid. how come i am aware? and i remember i was fascinated by the passing of time. and one time when my mum or dad was filming me, my little sister and brother (i was around 6-7years old) i said into the camera to myself: "hi patrik, you're now watching me in the there (i was pointing to our house), can we play someday?".

i was talking to myself in the future knowing that i would exist in the future as myself and i was talking to me like i was two different persons.. quite interesting.

i get the feeling that there's something more to our existence then we've been told. remember that the law of one is about free will and that ra cannot infringe on our free will.

i also was told from my higher self that we where home. and i got a vision of how alot of people (the rest of the universe?) was waiting for us to awake.

maybe we're the last ones to awake in our perfect universe?

and no it isn't hard to ponder concpepts outside time and space, but its hard to express myself in language :).

and if anything i say sound negative, it ain't. i love everything and everyone and i really look forward to the next density! i have so many visions of what will happen i can't wait for it. there will be endless possibilities to the joy and experience that awaits us. maybe i came here as a wanderer to help bring home souls that have lost themselves in the 3rd density.

much love!
- enivid

Enivid

06-12-2009, 09:25 AM

oh i forgot one thing. i know that i know everything, but free will makes it so i don't really know unless i really really want to know. since the densities goes on for infinity maybe we've choosen to live an infinite life that starts from where we are now :).

Happystrings

06-13-2009, 07:54 PM

i have a really hard time (hhahah) trying to understand anything without time. at the same time however, i have very very little memory of my "past" it goes so fast, not my past lives, but my past of this life. i have such a small amount of memory of jr high, highschool, i remember nothing of being a child up to about 7 or 8. then i have small blipits, but not much. it's hard to listen to "remember when" stories, because i either dont remember them, or i wasnt' there, but wish i could have the same thing to do with my friends of a long time ago. i cant tho, i plain dont remember.

this is true for me too, blacksunshine. i can only 'remember' if someone tells me in detail what happened back then. occassionally i get dim, grey pictures without much detail of my early life. in general it holds no mytique for me and i seldom want to bother with it. in all it seems so unimportant.

does anybody know if this is a characteristic of being a wanderer? i certainly consider myself one. like sonofman i spent a lot of time trying to deny that, but it is all to abundantly clear that i am one.

i am also noticing that my psychic abilities are begining to really show. never thought i was psychic. now i know what people are going to say, what is going to happen. this ability is growing and i am just dazzled by it.

what is happening to you?:cool:

transiten

06-14-2009, 04:05 AM

hello all possible wanderers!

i can really identify with you sonofman. i also love the song "we are the wanderers" with lacy j dalton, makes me wanna cry (just had the idea i will translate it to swedish and add it to my repretoir) and soon i will download davids "wanderer awakening"........

still don't know whether i'm one or not or if we're all one..time will show

transiten

drimmeld

06-15-2009, 08:56 PM

Blacksunshine

06-16-2009, 09:25 AM

i read a lot of everyone's stories. these are really interesting! it's awesome to hear what others are going through, and i believe all of you, because who would get on a forum and lie about these things? like it would do them justice or allow them to gain acceptance by the group of us so called "wanderers."

one thing i will say, we are not better or "special" humans because our souls do not originate here. if you recall directly that you are a wanderer, you should know that you started somewhere, and that we are all created equally for equal purposes. no one is more special than another just because their soul's origin is not of earth. wanderer or not, we are all special in the fact that we are an expression of god.

questions...
how important is it to remember what your origin is?

since many of us are "wanderers" or "extra terrestrial souls," are our purposes different on earth? or the same as our equal natives?

my question isn't "are you a wanderer..." my question is... what are you going to do here, and what legacy will you leave behind?

the legacies we are now understanding from within are finally taking place in our daily lives and expanding among the human race. i believe it is our job as a whole to bring together our race and open the world to rising among the cosmos. it is our duty to show the way, through peace, love, and light.

much peace, love, and light to you all!

dave

what are you going here and what legacy will you leave behind?

if you only knew how much this question ponders my mind. there are so many most amazingly impactful people on this earth....ya know, ones that make this big difference, or so the media tells us. i dont know how or why they get this fame...but they do.

and yet so many of us are also making such a huge difference in assisting with the vibration of this planet/system/universe...and in the silence and with out much of a "legacy." i can see how it can become burdomsome on the ego, when you are at constant work trying to create a positive light and vibration, and having it be such a solitary act.

i share my acts with the elements and call to the directions daily, for help, love, and direction. i have found that very beneficial for my "small scale" vibrational acts i try to put forth on this plane.

this site is such a huge help in learning and progressing, understanding, and support, that i am fascinated by all that everyone does here. i am members of other small sites that too raise my ability to carry a strong vibration for the same reasons i just mentioned.

i dont know if that is a legacy. i guess it is in my own mind, perhaps the minds of my children, parents, and friends, my husband. the earth, my karma, and my path have been very good to me as well. telling me that perhaps i am on my own way of legacy.

it's those small things that help stablize my small ego in order to keep my vibration (as well as my will,) strong.

i'm a giver, a giver of positive light, love and knowledge. i have been told for many many years that my soul is very old, often older then the person whom is telling me this information....and another many of them we have known eachother from long long ago.

i know i have always been "weird" but i've always loved that about myself. and no matter what time you may come across me at life, i have no veared from my knowledge or path, only grown and developed them into me. people from long ago would find me and say....wow she really hasn't changed...only grown. yet, ironically most people dont "stick around" me for long. it has only been in the past 5 years, that i have had the relationships i have now, that have lasted, and that is because i have found them to be along the same light as myself....i feel blessed to have finally recieved them, it came at a most perfect time.

many blessings in finding your way and sharing your light.

drimmeld

06-16-2009, 09:03 PM

thank you for your response to my post blacksunshine :-) some of us seem to have more impactful reasons on this physical plane, but our purposes are all equal in the end. i believe the most important thing now is that we are set out to do what we intended before we came into this physical form, and realize that every day is a gift... for at any moment our time here can end.

much peace, love, and light to you all!

dave

daguitri

06-29-2009, 01:18 PM

something i have been pondering for quite some time actually, there are countless "lightworker", "starseed" and "new aquarians" websites out there forming out reach liaisons kind of like facebook. however, supposing that they all find a way to interconnect, exactly how do they plan to coordinate the "coming out" party. the way i see it, its pretty pointless to do so until after the illuminati/new world order (catalyst) has made their move. i'm in the camp that sees their 95% harvest as inevitable (might as well), but that doesn't mean it will be only them remaining to the bitter end. most people who tend to the starseed/ lightworker websites know the odds, and will be prepared well ahead of the masses when they make their move (i hope) so i would just wonder, what will it take for us to collectively "come out" of the closet. do the lightships have to actually land, or are we waiting till december 20th, 2012?

Sandy

07-04-2009, 03:27 PM

i don't know. i was introduced to david wilcock and his work some years ago when i met the co-author of the "reincarnation of edgar cayce?", wynn free. i told a friend of mine about this book and discussed if i might be a wanderer and part of the ra group. immediately afterwards, i wished i had never discussed that with her as i really don't want to put myself on any pedestal and claim that i am special or anything. i prefer being humble. however, she immediately pulled out her pendulum and got that i am a member of the ra group. however, i myself still don't know.

Ouroboros3

07-04-2009, 05:55 PM

hello everyone,

this is my first post. i've been a lurker here for a while, reading through things.

i think i might be a bit of an oddity. for a long time now, i've been aware that i am a wanderer, as well as a walk-in. i woke up in my current body when i was three-and-a-half. i had an interesting dream once, maybe about a past life that took place on a higher density plane. there was no feeling of physical structure (dense matter/energy), everyone and everything was structured energy. but, in the dream it was at the end of a long conflict, where the 'war' was won but also lost. and i was one of those charged to guide the people and protect the guard the wisdom (in the sense of the librarians of alexandria). but the conflict...our peoples' energy bodies had turned negative, and they tried to get the wisdom by force ('storming' the 'library'). half of our (the 'librarians') numbers had given their current incarnate lives in the conflict. of those that were left, many had fallen into a type of depression, at our apparent failure to guide our people to the most positive path, and were basically no longer participating. others suicided. those of us left who had not succumbed, held the others (our people) off for as long a we could (they were trying to get the wisdom to use for purposes of greed and conquest), and condensed the wisdom into crystallized energy that could easily be smuggled out. the others finally broke through, and one of our number was able to escape with the wisdom, elsewhere. it might have just been a dream, but it was one of the most 'real' dreams i've ever had and i knew as soon as i woke up that i was true. i've never heard or read about another dream like it.

i've had other 'dreams' where i 'woke-up' in parallel lives in other universes. but i guess that's for another thread.

ETguy

07-04-2009, 06:51 PM

blitteaur

07-04-2009, 11:17 PM

wow, i've been following this discussion topic for awhile now and i'm totally amazed by what i have read. personally, i have no idea what or who i was in any prior lives; probably here on earth or some other 3rd density planet. i really doubt if i come from a higher density.

for most of my life, i did not consider myself very intelligent or enlightened. if i ever said something to any of my friends, family, co-workers, etc., which bordered on anything approaching this subject, i was told it wasn't possibly or that i was an idiot. since i didn't have a lot of confidence or much fire in my belly, i would take their advise at face value and try to think and behave like everybody else. for some reason, i had a need to belong and be accepted.

the funny thing is that i was never able to totally snuff out feelings about ufo's, government lying and corruption, reincarnation, ghosts, and social responsibility. thank god for the internet and web sites like this one. any more, i don't care what anyone thinks of my beliefs. people laugh at me and i just smile right back at them and hold my ground. i feel like a caveman who was frozen for thousands of years and now is being thawed out by love, light, and total enlightenment. what troubles me now is the lack of awareness i see in so many other people. i really hope david can get his movie out soon. i for one will try to promote it.

Detlef

07-05-2009, 04:34 AM

Sandy

07-05-2009, 09:04 AM

well now you're going to have to begin each forum post with "i am ra." :d

david wilcock doesn't even do that though he says he is part of the ra group. even if i was, really, what's the big deal? i don't like a lot of the power structures on earth and i don't care for any titles or sayings that give me some sense of superiority over others. i don't care for ranks. it's bad enough that i work for the public school system which is loaded with ranks. why does it matter if i am part of the ra group? we're already part of something even greater: the one infinite creator. when i learn and advance in reiki, i will not call myself a reiki master. i prefer reiki practitioner.

schmauve

07-10-2009, 09:07 AM

hello all! ever since i came across david's site and have plumbed it's depths, i've started to piece together clues and synchronicities from this and past lives and have come to the firm conclusion that i, too, am a wanderer. i have always found it difficult to imagine that human beings willfully do the things they do to each other on a given day. i look around and i simply don't understand. i feel like i'm the only one paying attention. i feel like asking everyone: "don't you get it? don't you see? love!! you are love!!!" but, that is not for me to say so much as it is for me to do, to be! that feeling has been with me my whole life. the desire to help. to be of service somehow. even all the jobs i've had were in service to others in one way or another. even my grandfather was a minister! :) in more recent years, i've been fascinated with origami, and after i learned about sacred geometry, i looked around my room and found that i had surrounded my self with sacred geometries that i made out of origami!! (there's more to origami than just making little animals and things. you can make little pieces that fit together to make all kinds geometric shapes!) and the geometries are all created using colored paper! i need to see which specific geometries and vibrations i was manifesting. i haven't done this yet, having only just "woken up" to this fact. :) i've had precognitive dreams that have helped me to avoid potential dangers. my "deja vu" moments for the last 10 years have just been "oh yeah, i remember this dream!" moments. there are other synchronicities and moments, the 2 most significant being when i woke up one morning when i was about 12 with this phrase in my head like a recording that wouldn't turn off: "...when the fire of your mind is thrust forward by the soul of your consciousness..." (i've never forgotten it and find it pops into mind at the most synchronistic moments), and the other being when i tried meditation for the first time while lying on my bed and with out opening my eyes i could see a beam of blue light coming through my window and starting to cover my whole body. a feeling of being "sucked in" was coming over me, but not knowing where i was being sucked to, and not wanting to go somewhere without knowing how to get back, i decided to come up "shallow" again and remember where i was. (i still am curious, who or what was trying to draw me out.) i've interacted with discarnate beings quite a few times in my dreams and even had an obe because someone (not so nice) wanted the use of my vessel. these events do not so much define me as a wanderer, but merely expand my awareness in this realm of consciousness to those things not directly obvious to the 5 senses. this openness to understanding has certainly aided me on the path of "remembering".
it seems to me, as well, that my father is also a wanderer, and more than likely my brother is, too. this makes sense given our purposes for re-entering 3rd density. one funny synchronicity is that my father is a lifetime member of the a.r.e., which is the organization that cayce founded. he introduced that material to me when i was very young and i've been expanding that understanding ever since. in that respect, i am now continuing to study this material as presented by david. so, the journey continues from father to son; from cayce to wilcock; from incarnation to incarnation.

any other wanderers in the maryland area?? it'd be nice see kindred spirits in this locality.

in light and love,
karl:)

Alexander

07-11-2009, 10:32 PM

greetings karl :)

good post.

yes many of us feel the same way. it's not easy to be on this world.

some of us have been hurt, partially corrupted by this world, fortunately in these times many of are being awoken to what we really are. :)

i'm in southern pennsylvania by the way.

any other wanderers in the maryland area?? it'd be nice see kindred spirits in this locality.

schmauve

07-14-2009, 05:29 PM

alexander.

thanks for the comment on my post! i thought the forum automatically sent an email notification to you if someone posted a reply to a forum you had also posted on. i've seen it work this way on other forums, but that doesn't seem to be the case here...or is it?

it is most frustrating indeed but i am very hopeful and excited and optimistic that we can positively contribute to an awakening and rebirth into love of others on the planet!

are you going to the "be the love" conference in new windsor, md? david will be there with larry seyer performing a few songs.

i hope all is well with you! :)

be light and love.
karl

Alexander

07-14-2009, 08:47 PM

karl,

i hadn't heard of it till you mentioned it. :)

http://www.bethelove.us/

i would love to participate, but even the lowest rate of $270 is too much for me. :(

i too am optimistic with what we can accomplish. a small number dedicated towards light and love can literally change the world and inspire many to real change.

HardKnockSoldi3r

08-13-2009, 08:36 PM

i can easily see wanderers attracted to ths site due to their advanced understanding of the universe (subconsciously?).

i myself have issues from the past which makes realizing that im a wanderer or not. i've felt alienated because i was dissociated and emotionally neglected as a kid? or because im a wanderer? i have a deep need to want to teach people beneficial information so they can learn, (maybe so they can become as enlightened as he wanderer i am?) i was sent to christian camps as a kid and other event, but never really fell for it. it didnt make sense to me. i am more and more disappointed with all the propaganda and selfishness brainwashing the public. i think i am somewhat telepathic as i was quiet as a kid, focusing more on thought, although i was a very fun and full of life kid, not shy at all.

also, while driving with my permit with my mom, i took a turn, not thinking about anything but driving, and all of a sudden i had a thought which was basically "put your lights on", and less than a second later my mom said " you should put your lights on"!! maybe thats just the conscious field we are in . . . i also know when someone is looking at me, lets say, at the grocery store. i will get a subconcious need to look in a certain direction, and sure enough, i directly look in that direction only and find someone looking at me!! usually women. i was walking past an isle just like everyone else was walking and there was one woman in the middle of the isle focused on a box of food. i glanced at her for a second and she popped her eyes straight to me lol.

i dont know if im a wanderer, but i dont think i am especially to the fact that i don't read much, although, i like to read. i also have add

any suggestions?

random: who thinks alicia keys is a wanderer?

Truth180

08-13-2009, 11:01 PM

same thing here to when going into a store i feel everyone and catch the females looking as well. i have to put myself into a walking meditative state. other wise i get light headed. its wierd sometimes if feels like i am walking on a hill sideways in either direction it like a pulling feeling. sometimes it gets over whelming and its not a very good feeling. so putting up an invisivble shield around ourselves is helpful. i think everyone has their own unique way of doing this. but i have to say thier are some pretty women, but just don't have the brains or the personality. so looks is not every thing either. thats besides the point anyways.

when i took my kids camping on the way back home i was playing a tune in my head and we didn't have the radio on cause my daughter was sleeping. my son started humming the song i was playing in my head. it was rather different, but not the only time these things happen. also with my dad i think of an idea and he will mention it right when i thought of it. besides that one time the tv flickered a flash and it was off. just wierd things like that going on. oh yeah and orbs to floating around. no i am not crazy. :)

i think that at times i may have add. to many thoughts come all at once and i have a hard time putting them in order. i appologize to that cause i think people sometimes have a hard time trying to understand what i am saying.

Cantheist

08-14-2009, 12:58 AM

everyone who comes to this site with the sincere objective of learning are probably all "wanderers". we are all pulled into this material because we were meant to. we are the ones we have been waiting for.

grs9769

08-23-2009, 06:29 PM

so, i'm about halfway through the book, "from elswhere," by scott mandelker and find it interesting. i seem to fit many of his characteristics of being from elswhere but i think they are pretty common characteristics. you could almost say anybody is from elsewhere. i mean, i've have felt socially retarded at times but hasn't everyone? do i long to be somewhere else? yes! but don't most people? look around, the world sucks. i don't know, really... who am i to say... i can't make heads or tails of this place (earth) and i can't figure out who i am either. i don't know who or what to believe anymore. i am frustrated, frustrated, frustrated!!! ggrrrrr. ok, sorry, had to vent just a bit. does anyone feel like me? lol <sigh> :confused:

evolving

10-12-2009, 10:47 PM

what a different lot you are. i totally get it :d

i am a well respected man yet with few friends on this earth. i have until recently worked as a chemical engineer in the oilfield. in my life i have coded software, flown planes, flipped burgers, rang the cashiers bell, rode broncs, cleaned stables, buss'd tables, was in the infantry, framed houses, dug ditches, roofed industrial buildings, mowed lawns, delivered papers, jumped out of planes, scuba, drove race cars, raced motor bikes, and so much more.... whatever came along, i never said no. i have ammassed wealth and lost everything more times than i care to count. people walk around me. people stare at me when i enter a room.

i scored 95% on the quiz mentioned in an earlier post in this thread.

things i have said my whole life:
"..in this plane of existence"...
"i enjoy this physical body"...
"i won't be able to do this forever"...
"anything is possible. the only limit is the mind"...
"i take it for what it is"...
"it's only stuff. it doesn't matter"...
"they are only the laws of man"....
"i call it the scenic route"...

things people have said:
"you want to save the world"...
"you are too nice"...
"you have white knight syndrome"...
"you can't save everyone"...
"where are you from"?
"are you an angel"?
"you can't do that"!...

i have always felt myself to be an outsider. i have always known there was a higher purpose, though what that purpose was, i did not know. i have often wondered if i were an angel fallen from grace. i know i have lived lives before this one, here on earth. i have always loved each day i was given, and celebrated it in my own way each morning. i have never worried about dying, and went out of my way to get as close to death as i could. i never saw death in others as a bad thing, and have never been able to cry at such, though i have felt sadness in missing them. i believe i can change things by willing them, and often do. i have had obes my whole life since i was a young boy. i have seen a ufo. i hear crop circles. i was in the army for eight years and have had my *** saved by my guardians on many occasions. i have had my *** saved by my guardians many other times. i have always despised the suffering of others. i have broken 27 bones and had over 80 stitches. i had to learn to breath and walk upright again after crushing a vertebrae, and healed so well that doctors couldn't tell i had had an injury, a mere six months later. i had a car door crush my right hand in a car accident. i have no pain and everything, including my hand, works perfectly, despite all the injuries i have had. i heal so fast you can almost see it. i prefer animals to people. animals always tell the truth. i am intj. i have travelled almost the whole world. a few short years ago i prayed, begged, and screamed for an angel to be sent to me. that angel was sent to me on july 8th 2009. this angel is teaching me what i could not learn by myself, yet i tire of this place. the food is only to sustain the body. the air is to sustain the lungs. i have lost the joy in what most people find pleasurable. i have been a lover of life, consuming it like it would be over in a second, but i am driven now by a new desire, and this has only come to me as of late. it is like the jigsaw puzzle pieces are now making sense and everything is falling into place.

i am driven to this path like richardd was driven to the mountain in close encounters. i must help people, not in the small way i see others doing so and in the way i have always done, but numbering in the millions. i see it as possible, when others around me resist the very idea of such. the idea of change fills so many with fear... their certain bad future is one they can hold onto, whereas their uncertain bliss they cannot grasp...

what say thee? am i a wanderer? i don't care much for that term, but oh well, it is a human term and as such can live with it. it's only for a short time longer...

Spiral of Light

10-13-2009, 06:28 AM

hello evolving,

it sounds to me like you are a wanderer in overdrive.

welcome to the club. :)

Outlaw

10-15-2009, 02:15 PM

i have to admit, i think i am a star-seed. i have looked at the characteristics online and i was surprised that most of them i have. about myself: i am 19, i have a mixed origin - 25% czech, 25% slovak, 25% arabic, 25% english. since childhood i am fascinated by the sky, especially at night, looking at the sky several times a day. i am also fascinated by the moon and space in general. i believe in extraterrestrials and i also believe they have been here in the past and are here now as well. most of my life i have felt alone and detached in my heart, as if i didn't fit in here. sometimes i feel as an observer. i am very emphatic, listen to people and their stories, in general try to help if i can. sometimes i like to just stare at something, or lay down when sitting, like going to a short sleep mode, thinking about random stuff. i don't like bright sunlight, i am afraid of the dark sometimes, i like to wash myself in hot water, i am always tired in the morning and am tied to my bed when i wake up. i always remember my dreams (well, 90% of them). i do not like to get involved in human problems, because i find them irrelevant in the sense i do not like the situation on this planet and how people behave and are willingly controlled. i like to take things with easy, ignore the mainstream news as much as i can, i do not watch tv often. i experience deja vu sometimes with places and situations. i am attracted to some people without a reason, just by my feelings they are important for some reason. i know about the new world order agenda and when i discovered it, it shifted my way of looking at things (happened about 4,5 years ago). i tend to have a feeling of being watch or followed at times when alone. i have a need to help people and inform the about the nwo and other related things, to help them. some people do not understand me and although i more less like my parents, i do not have any real emotional bond with them. i also do not fear death and don't look at it as a bad thing. i love sci-fi tv shows and movies, i get sometimes angry about the situation on earth. i think i see spaceships (balls of light) outside my window at night. i do not like religion, only buddhism i find "ok". i am spiritual and believe in souls. i like to travel and explore. i have a feeling time is running fast and a day is very short, shorter then 10 years ago. my hair and eyes are both chestnut-colored. i am also fascinated by technology and the thought of interstellar and wormhole travel i find possible and normal. sometimes i say i wish to leave this planet and go to another one to clean my mind. right now im studying at a university, but i find all the studying and further way of human life as wrong. i never write "i" with a capital letter in the middle of a sentence. i am friendly. i think we live forever and come from one. sometime i can read the future. i remember my childhood very well, i have good long-term memory. i was in my mothers womb in the opposite direction. i don't like money and superiority, i like rain. i hope i haven't missed anything that i know about myself. what am i ? why am i here ? how can i remember my past lives and where i come from ? please help me.

littlegreenguy

10-16-2009, 04:35 AM

there are no special clubs.
there is nothing special.
there is only you, and what you do with you.

11wanderer11

10-16-2009, 10:45 AM

i have to admit, i think i am a star-seed. i have looked at the characteristics online and i was surprised that most of them i have. ... what am i ? why am i here ? how can i remember my past lives and where i come from ? please help me.

yeah, you sound similar to me in many ways. well it seems you've already discovered then what you are. there are many variations of 'star seeds' or 'wanderers', and 'indigos' and 'super psychics' and so on. but ultimately of course, everybody is one soul anyway. you are here, like the rest of us, to simply help the transition on this planet through energy and your influence. to remember your past lives you would need to either learn & practice the technicques to access that knowledge in meditation or have a professional do a regressive hypnosis session on you & ask your subconscious specific questions. in my opinion though, there's not much point to remembering earlier lives if you understand who you are. to see earlier lives would merely be novel or interesting, but wouldn't serve a purpose. the physical lives you've spent aren't the real you. understand you've intentionally set limitations on yourself so that you can't be your normal full potentional, which feels so strange and unnatural. because of the limitations of not being able to manifest whatever you want instantly and levitate and know everything and so on, forcing you to have to cooperate with other humans to survive, you will then experience lessons while also helping the planet. that's my take for now anyway.

evolving

10-16-2009, 12:21 PM

in my opinion though, there's not much point to remembering earlier lives if you understand who you are. to see earlier lives would merely be novel or interesting, but wouldn't serve a purpose.

i agree. though i remember past human lives; specifically the violent nature to the end of those physical lives, i have often wondered why, and what purpose it serves. i have come to believe the lessons learned in those lives are for the purpose of others, as we have already learned them.

Wanderer Awoken green eye

10-28-2009, 10:31 PM

i fell like i am a wonderer who is almost fully awakened, i know about a little more than half of my mission here on earth, due to some readings the name ra was channeled through me!! idk what this means..... but i deffinately am a wanderer awakening..

Matthew Clark

10-31-2009, 12:03 PM

:)hi outlaw,

firstly though, may i welcome you to this forum with open arms.

i have just read your post and feel compelled to respond as you hit a lot of points that resonate with me.

a lot of what you have said is as if i have written you post myself.

most of my life i have felt alone and detached in my heart, as if i didn't fit in here. sometimes i feel as an observer. i am very emphatic, listen to people and their stories, in general try to help if i can.

me too. i have always had a deep feeling that i just do not belong here. i find it hard to interact with strangers and sometimes people i know. in actual fact, something i have just learned tonight from kris (one of the mods) is that this feeling is typical of a wanderer. that made me feel better as i saw it as a sign of weekness.

i tend to have a feeling of being watch or followed at times when alone.

yes i get this too, particularly when i am at work in the shop with no customers. of late, more and more, i get the sense that someone is there but not in a frightening way. ihave always known i have been protected by some force. many years ago (back in the early 90's) i was at work (different company) and my step dad called to speak to my boss, who owned the shop. they were very good friends. i needed to speak to him after and when their conversation was finished, john handed me the phone. i spoke for a few minutes then john came in to the office and shouted at me to get off the phone as it was his bill! i reacted without thinking and shouted back "shut up". he lunged forward to me and in that split second, i said "help" in my mind. within a nano second, a perfect metre square of ceiling landed straight on top of his head with absolute perfection. he was covered in plaster and dust but not one spec landed on me and we were inches apart. this was witnessed by lots of people and i had the mickey taken out of me for ages after. :d

i also see the balls of light and on top have lots of intermittent ringing in my ears. david explained what that was at the london conference last weekend, which was that it was connected to my spiritual awakening.

there are other similarities with your post and my life but i just wanted to comment on a few points you made.

why am i here ? how can i remember my past lives and where i come from ?

i think you are here because you are a wander as well. certainly being so young and switched on gives me the impression you are at the very least an old soul.

perhaps you could look into having a past life regression? i did and i found out a fair bit of information about myself, not to mention i was a belly dancer in istanbul! :eek:

one last point, regarding the fact you use the "i" and not i in the middle of a sentence would suggest you are a very humble person. by not over-emphasising the "i" (as i do lol) you are showing a meeker side of yourself.

well thats my thought anyway, though i may be wrong, oops i meant "i" may be wrong!

love and light,

matt

King Anu

10-31-2009, 01:10 PM

11wanderer11

11-01-2009, 06:37 AM

i am not going to claim to be a wanderer.. since i do not know for sure.. but i will tell you this.... i'm 19 years old and while i was 18 something clicked in me where i started becoming interested in aliens and space.. so that's when i started my journey.. and i soon became addicted.. i wanted to learn it all... and out of no where i was hearing a rap instrumental, and i started to rap... and since then i started incorporating the knowledge that i've gained into my music.. and something is telling me to keep doing that... that it's important... no matter how many people tell me that it's "wayyy out therrree" i never give up...

that's cool man. i haven't heard many rappers that rhyme about aliens and hidden knowledge. i did come across one guy, "sick since" on you tube that has some pretty awesome songs posted along those lines. i love 'wayy out therree' music so keep it up dude and let us know how to listen.

[moderators wish to remind 11wanderer and king anu that if they wish to continue a rap discussion, please do so in pm's. thank you.]

NegaNova

11-02-2009, 06:38 PM

MarkM

11-02-2009, 07:30 PM

wow - good points, yet there's a subtle distinction as to the wanderer issue.

according to the law of one, the earthly biological human population has been present in it's fully formed potential of hosting 3d souls for 75,000 some-odd years. human bodies are intended as evolutionary vehicles for entities which have attained self awareness, or third density.

there are entities which have attained higher densities, and some of these very brave folk volunteer to return and undergo incarnation in third density bodies in order to aid in the evolutionary paths of third density entities. these higher density entities are the wanderers.

while it's true that we all spring from the same source and are a bunch of illuminated windows in the same centrally lit building - to use an over-arching metaphor,;) here in third density we're stuck with dealing with terms of separation by the necessity of the way our minds work. so the distinction is workable for the purpose of understanding something of what's going on here. check out the law of one study guide on david's main site for a less distorted explanation! mark

Deambor

11-02-2009, 07:39 PM

all your guys' posts are really beautiful, i just wanted to say lol.

question though, how is everyone not a wanderer? if we are all god, and are all one, and the universe began with one original thought, how have we all not been here since the beginning? if energy cannot be created or destroyed, how is it possible for a soul to be young or old, if we were all here together in the beginning? or.. were we?

that's a good question, nega.
well, come to think of it, separateness is just a reflected oneness. oneness decided to break up into infinite pieces, most of which no longer aware of oneness. anyway, long story.
in a veiled world, therefore, oneness is like a dream, and separateness so real. therefore we like to create something that puts us in a group, like wanderers group, for example. and although someone above said it's not a club, it's sort of inevitably is a club, and gives us comfort. belonging to it gives us a sense of long forgotten, but never lost oneness.

evolving

11-02-2009, 08:54 PM

if we are all god, and are all one, and the universe began with one original thought, how have we all not been here since the beginning? if energy cannot be created or destroyed, how is it possible for a soul to be young or old, if we were all here together in the beginning? or.. were we?

yes we are part of the one infinite creator: love created light, and from that light came everything else, via distortion of that light. we are part of that one love/ light, but just as light may be seperated through a prism, we are as that light seperated, thus allowing the one infinite creator to learn about self through our free will. first we just are, then we become alive, then we become self aware, then we choose a direction of polarity (positive or negative), then we learn unbridled love, then gain wisdom, and then combine the two (love/wisdom) creating balance. we then finally seek to again be one with the one creator, at which point we begin again. i'd like to say how long this takes, but i can't. if i were to take a guess, i would say, if it all went very well, somewhere around 1 billion years per cycle1. how long has this gone on, and how long will it go on? infinity. (makes a/h1/n1 seem rather unimportant huh?)

the third density mind/body/spirit complexes (other-selves) on earth are only a small part originally of earth. the rest have come from other planets which became unusable to third density mind/body/spirit complexes, either by their own actions, or by ascendacy of the planetary body itself (which earth will do this time around, thus requiring third density mind/spirit/body complexes to be relocated to (incarnated on) another third density planet, while earth will become suitable for fourth density use)

there are entities which have attained higher densities, and some of these very brave folk volunteer to return and undergo incarnation in third density bodies in order to aid in the evolutionary paths of third density entities. these higher density entities are the wanderers.

very good explanation mark. i would like add to this.

in addition to wanderers being from advanced densities (4th or 6th), mind/spirit/body complexes of this third density who have attained ascendancy, but have remained in further incarnations in order to resonate light and thus increase the vibrational frequency for everyone here, are also termed wanderers.

1 - based on:
3rd density, per cycle of 75,000 years
6th density, per cycle of 75,000,000 years

extrapolation:
1st) as far as we can see (hubble), there are at least 125 billion other galaxies (milky ways) in the universe. the milky way is estimated to have been formed 13.2 billion years ago.
2nd) when consciousness happens, often (but not always) in relation to contact with a third density being, therefore sometime in the 75,000 year span this is possible.
3rd) 75,000 in three harvests, or until ready to ascend, or repeat
4th) 750,000 in three harvests, or until ready to ascend, or repeat
5th) 7,500,000 in three harvests, or until ready to ascend, or repeat
6th) 75,000,000 in three harvests, or until ready to ascend, or repeat
7th) 750,000,000 in three harvests, or until ready to ascend, or repeat

NegaNova

11-04-2009, 04:35 PM

evolving

11-04-2009, 05:52 PM

ah i see. so the age of the soul is just related to where they stand in the cycle of densities?

also, doesn't ra talk about beyond our octave of existence in which they knew very little about? i mean, although you talk about a cycle of densities, and then beginning again once we are unified completely in oneness, if it's infinity, doesn't it just go on forever, and there is always more to learn and experience? i mean, i would rather like to think that there is even more than the 8 densities, or 200 densities, than to think we are just doing this to eventually be a stone again, or a rabbit, etc.

though only speculation, what i think happens in the next octave is that we become sub logos (a sun), in the octave after that a logos, and then create a galaxy, create life within it, and then learn from that life as it goes through its densities, a progression of learning love and wisdom at a higher scale. perhaps we are as infants right now and then we become as parents :)

this would seem, to my limited third density way of thinking, to be the logical next step. perhaps after that we create a universe. i doubt there is only one, being infinity is infinite :d

and who knows. perhaps being a stone is the most rewarding experience one can really have!

MarkM

11-04-2009, 06:53 PM

i don't tend to go beyond the octave in my musings, even the ra mentioned that it was a mystery the depths of which they do not plumb.:cool:

my feeling, unsupported directly by the loo as it is, is that the density of sixth/becoming seventh experiences the attainment of being the host star of the native solar system - and the moving into and through galactic, galactic cluster, supergroup, etc., approaching the horizontal widening of the parabolic curve, until the instant of attainment of the infinite oneness.

beyond and 'concurrent' with that may be an instantaneous re-scattering of the one infinite and undistorted beingness back into the very beginnings of first density - paradoxically and simultaneously being infinite knowing of our self - infinity best expressed as one, and infinite fragmentation into infinite manyness.

(here, each individualized portion which has made the long trek home experiences it's own unique fragmentation into a universe all it's own - serving as the one infinite creator of it's own universe)

only what's in between, the striving of the distortion of the rainbow for resolution, can be construed as experiencing. who knows?:p mark

cbraley1

11-04-2009, 10:12 PM

i think that the better question is here, who isn't? i would say that just about everyone here is, whether they know it or not. :cool: if you know about law of attraction. birds of a feather...and all. does anyone else get the number 13 all the time? i call it my lucky number. the secret sign of the zodiac and a million other things. that and i was born on 9/11. i think that it's great you know about your planet of origin, but the most important thing is here and now! :)
l & l
clay in sc

transiten

11-05-2009, 04:17 AM

hi cbraley1

just seconds after reading you post time swithced to:d 13 as we say in sweden: 1pm.
i just love the number 13 and i'm not making any personal astrological connotations here but the 13th sign ophiucus is involved and has to to with healing etc.

also there are 13 "months" a year right, with 13 fullmoons, so the 12 months calendar really is a violation of natural (feminine) cycles. jesus was the13.th among 12 disciples and 13 also is the number of the wholy godess in celtic mythology.

in the fairytale the sleeping beauty only 12 fairies were invited, since the king/ solar principle said he had only 12 plates and the 13:th fairie symbolizing the feminine/moon principle cast a spell on the princess that she would sleep for a 100 years.

then this prince came around and the thorne around the castle just opened up without him having to force it, he kissed the princess, she woke up and they lived happily after.
this symbolizes the balancing of the masculine/solar principle and the feminine/lunar principle that has to manifest until we can ascend into the 4:th dimension

my 2 cents transiten

NegaNova

11-05-2009, 04:44 PM

though only speculation, what i think happens in the next octave is that we become sub logos (a sun), in the octave after that a logos, and then create a galaxy, create life within it, and then learn from that life as it goes through its densities, a progression of learning love and wisdom at a higher scale. perhaps we are as infants right now and then we become as parents :)

this would seem, to my limited third density way of thinking, to be the logical next step. perhaps after that we create a universe. i doubt there is only one, being infinity is infinite :d

and who knows. perhaps being a stone is the most rewarding experience one can really have!

that is actually beautiful, and a very good point - about the stone. i just love you guys hahaha, i resonate well with all of you! :d hope you all have a good day! :p

transiten

11-06-2009, 03:10 AM

that is actually beautiful, and a very good point - about the stone. i just love you guys hahaha, i resonate well with all of you! :d hope you all have a good day! :p

..and what more, no grass will grow on a rolling stone:d

keep rockin' this world as bob riedel our friend that started the "music to sooth the beast within-thread" and "went home" not long ago, probably still wishes us to do:p

love ya bob

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evolving

11-08-2009, 09:38 PM

in further reading, i came across further times:

as per ra (only 2.5 million years left in their density). only the 7th was not given in time.

1st) 2 billion years
2nd) 4.6 billion years
3rd) 75 thousand years in three 25,000 year harvests, or until ready to ascend, or repeat
4th) 5th) ra spent 2.3 billion years getting to where they are now - 73 million = 2.227 billion years in the fourth and fifth
6th) 75,000,000
7th) unknown

therefore, we have already done 6.6 billion years, and only have another 2.3 billion to go to get to the seventh! i'd say that means we are over the hump, as it were :)

pssst... hurry up and decide so we can all get to the party ;)

The Witness

11-12-2009, 01:37 AM

hello all. re: 'the wanderer.'

some few months ago i kept drawing 'the wanderer' hexagram from the i-ching.

i think i qualify under that context. i am somewhat of a loner (except family) by choice. i used to have a fairly large circle of associates but i kind of out-grew them all for spiritual reasons. i found that their selfish indulgent personalities were detracting from my purpose; which is to have greater contact with the universal flux. maybe i will aquire a new circle of friens in a new environment. im open to that. :)

noppy

11-30-2009, 02:08 PM

11wanderer11

12-04-2009, 01:49 PM

i was a wanderer... but i once got a sacred question in my mind.

am i gonna wander for the rest of my life or am i gonna do something with it.

so i trust my feelings and what ever my higher consciousness or some high evolvde being is telling to me no matter how strange and ridiculess it sounds.

so good luck :cool: i hope the day come you don't have to wander anymore but evolve from an wanderer to an ... awakener :d that says is time to stop wandering and time to be awake

the term wanderer, along with 'walk-in' is a label for not being 'native' to the planet's history of incarnations. it's not aimless wandering. they/we come where help is needed. so i would say wanderer and awakener is the same thing. after i'm done here i imagine i'll probably take a good rest in the void or some star and then eventually shoot out into some space again and go wander some more interesting places. :cool:

7Sisters

12-04-2009, 04:38 PM

the term wanderer, along with 'walk-in' is a label for not being 'native' to the planet's history of incarnations. it's not aimless wandering. they/we come where help is needed. so i would say wanderer and awakener is the same thing. after i'm done here i imagine i'll probably take a good rest in the void or some star and then eventually shoot out into some space again and go wander some more interesting places. :cool:

i have been thinking the same thing! but i want a nice long rest first:d
i've learned a lot this time around and need to absorb all the different facets of this reality, i'm kinda hoping that the next place i go that i keep some of my knowledge in that incarnation and am able to pop out and pop back in at the same exact 'time' i left...you know, take a major vacation in between so i'm nice and fresh to deal with what ever comes up.:eek:

transiten

12-04-2009, 10:08 PM

hi 11wanderer11

that must be a misconception of the åhenomenon "wanderer" since if david f.i. thinks he might be the reincarnation of edgar cacey, he must have reincarnated right...

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noppy

12-05-2009, 05:23 AM

didn't knew they were the same thing :p

you sure are right take a long rest after this.:cool:

wooh !! this planet sure keeps you bizzy and tired but it's also excited and much fun to be here. i think i keep incarnating here if this planet goes to 4d/5d. it's sounds so much fun :d

nobody realy taught us from birth who we realy are and yet we brought our selves to that kind of information. that realy is amazing

11wanderer11

12-05-2009, 03:51 PM

hi 11wanderer11

that must be a misconception of the åhenomenon "wanderer" since if david f.i. thinks he might be the reincarnation of edgar cacey, he must have reincarnated right...

transiten

ok, here's the definition straight from the scott mandelker book "from elsewhere" where david first encountered the term wanderer: descriptive term for interdimensional/interplanetary soul transfer in which a being from a more evolved et civilization incarnates at birth, voluntarily losing memory of identity or origins. purpose is usually service to humanity and the planet, although there are self-serving wanderers.

as for david possibly being edar cayce reincarnated, if he is i don't think that would necessarily exclude him from being a wanderer. it's just a very broad, general term. perhaps some wanderers have been on earth for the last few thousand years. maybe they're the really bold and brave first-responders or something or maybe (more likely) they just got caught up in earth's bad vibrations and got stuck here like ra says. though if that was the case, you'd certainly act more 'normal' and 'native' than other more alienated wanderers, and david doesn't fit that. he was already researching hidden knowledge and psy when he was a child and fits many other characteristics of a fresh wanderer, so that makes me think he might not be the same soul as edgar cayce after all, but who knows exactly how these things work. there's exceptions to every rule. it's a lot to ponder, how archetypes, repeating cycles of energy, life plans, and dna/genetics factor into what makes a person & then comparing their life to another's to determine if they might be the same energy/entity reincarnated. i don't know if that makes sense to anybody because it's hard for me to put it into words. anyways i've rambled too much you get my main point hopefully.

evolving

12-05-2009, 04:24 PM

there are wanderers on earth that have been here for the entire 75,000 year cycle, and those that have come and are still coming only lately.

wanderers, like everyone else on the planet, reincarnate, so there is no argument that david may not be edgar. he simply may be.

transiten

12-06-2009, 01:03 AM

well hello evolvigng and 11wanderer11

thanks for your input! just want to clarify though that i never questioned whether david is a wanderer or the reincarnation of edgar cacey. i was questionning the argumentation of 11wanderer11s definition of a wanderer not having been here on earth before.

in my early twenties i wrote a song with the initial lines:

where is your smile, have you forgotten how to give
and how to kindle the light in somebody elses eyes?

doesn't make rhymes in english but the words are directed towards myself so i might be a wanderer after all;)

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evolving

12-06-2009, 11:43 AM

i was questionning the argumentation of 11wanderer11s definition of a wanderer not having been here on earth before.

dearest transiten,

a wanderer may be of other densities and places, or of earth that was capable of ascension prior to harvest, but wished to stay until the the end of the current cycle and harvest to be of service to it's most dear and loved brothers and sisters. many that are currently incarnate are of such origin.

to quote ra:

15.20 ra: i am ra. these are planetary entities harvested—wanderers only in the sense that they chose, in fourth-density love, to immediately reincarnate in third density rather than proceeding towards fourth density. this causes them to be wanderers of a type, wanderers who have never left the earth plane because of their free will rather than because of their vibrational level.much love,

transiten

12-06-2009, 03:08 PM

thanks again evolving!

some things actually get clearer every day!

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oldwanderer

12-07-2009, 11:51 AM

i am an old wanderer. at an early age i found life here mostly terrifying. i
am connected to a pleiadian group and i have had to be rescued (saved) several
times by my pleiadian friends because of carelessness on my part. one time i
got “read the riot act” and told i should be more responsible! i am now aware
that i have some kind of agreement with them. but for the most part i gave my
life here my best shot. went to college, got a good job, married and had three
children. the only thing i had really working for me were my 3 great kids.

when i was 36 i kept getting the message to go to california. so i did. three
days and nights on the buss with the kids from boston to ca. where within two
weeks i met my wanderer husband. he had been waiting for me. that was
january 1971. two wanderers holding on to each other for dear life and beginning the adventure of learning who we are and how the universe really works. first, with regression, and then a couple of years with really good channels that helped greatly.

the paradigm we have been taught since birth that the earth is solid got shattered when i read "the holographic universe" and "the lookinglass universe" books as a starter.

what took us 38 years to put together david explained in 2 hours at the
"awake and aware conference" in la a couple of months ago. i was blown away!

i get emails all the time signed, "love and light". well, light is information and we need to understand how the universe works in order to create our new heaven on earth because what we expect is what we are now creating. how you interpret the world sends out an energetic resonance that is added to that of the collective. we can override the paradigm we were brought up to believe.. this is why we need to unite with other wanderers of all ages and combine our knowledge, energies and talents to create the new earth.

the oldwanderer

Enivid

12-07-2009, 03:53 PM

theoldwanderer

thanks for sharing!

i couldn't have said it better myself: "i get emails all the time signed, "love and light". well, light is information and we need to understand how the universe works in order to create our new heaven on earth because what we expect is what we are now creating. how you interpret the world sends out an energetic resonance that is added to that of the collective. we can override the paradigm we were brought up to believe.. this is why we need to unite with other wanderers of all ages and combine our knowledge, energies and talents to create the new earth."

we are creating what we belive, and it hurts me that so few care about others, such as the starving children in africa, they are of sts even if they say they are sto.

the new earth is only for thoose of true sto or true love and understanding (that is the trademark of sto).

sts is here to help us learn that but in the process they 'capture' alot of souls that aren't ready and that's why we as wanderers are here. too help sto people become sts and know that they need to care about others, cause others are themselves.

too miss the opportunity to live on this new earth we're creating togheter with our earth is a once in a lifetime chance to miss. and we can't have souls that don't know how to treat eachother with true unconditional love, that will not create harmony and earth is moving into harmony.

we as wanderers can help spread the work of david and spread the awareness that we need to care about eachother. by looking within' we can found out how, and its really about overcoming fears, cause there is nothing to fear, and to be of a loving and understanding nature towards others. and share the wisdom that we are all the one infinite creator, and that we are all connected.

much love from sweden
- enivid

NegaNova

12-15-2009, 11:10 PM

hey guys, not to change the subject too far, but i had a meditation experience regarding wandering, and for some reason, i never thought to reflect on it with you guys until now.

hopefully you guys can shed some light onto what it could mean.

so i was sitting at school, staring into some lavender-aura quarts (it's basically a purplish/blue crystal.)

anyways, i started meditating and requested acces into the stone and then imagined myself inside the stone. the temperature was cool, and the walls looked like the stone, but when i went to touch the wall, it came out like mud and i tasted it. it was bitter so i put it back in the wall and smoothed it out and was like, "good as new!"

as i turned around there was a black man in a yellow shaman/mystic/trival looking outfit. i ran up to him and hugged him, and it seemed he wasn't expecting this and was taken aback, then kind of laughed and patted my back. i asked him, "why am i here?" and he says to me, "well. you're here to do whatever you want to do" i kind of nodded my head because i knew he was going to say that.

right after this moment i paused, and then thought of the word "origin". as i did this, i watched the shaman raise his staff upwards and i looked to see a green shining star! it was shining green and then went to bluish white, and then just whitish and flickering. as soon as this happened i left it and put the stone down.

now.. i realize that in this meditation, all this was me, and i created this... but i do feel there is truth in imagination.. because imagination is everything.

but at the same time, i don't know. i mean, i love learning about all this spiritual stuff, but when people talk about wanderers.. it's like they have knowledge or memories of previous existence, but for me it seems all this stuff, this concept is totally new to me and everything i've learned i have learned for the first time, yet i know i've been looking for it my entire life.

..but yeah. that's my post haha. my focus i guess is on the green star. at first i thought, "oh, perhaps the green star represents fourth density, because the heart chakra is associated with green" but then i thought that it might also mean earth, but i associated the green with earth as well. the only thing though, is that as soon as i thought this, i thought that earth is blue... soo i have no ****ing clue. maybe i'm not a wandererer and that's why my interest in this is so intense and that's why this is really all i've want to do with my life lately... but who knows.

anyone have any thoughts on this?

kundalini

01-12-2010, 06:18 PM

i've always been what you might call a child of instinct. not born with the sharpest intellect i became accustomed to trusting my gut or my heart rather than my head. at quite an early age i realised whenever i did this, i was never steered wrong. i saw it as the universe quietly guiding me, if i was inclined to allow it.

basically, after finding david and the loo i started to get the feeling that i am a 4th density wanderer. i've even tried to fight this feeling as it sticks of egomania to my humble soul (bare in mind i'm someone who has always been happy as the little guy). but i just can't shake it. i seem to even remember reading later on that 4th density wanderers are not very common, making it even less likely. its been said by a few on here though that its quite likely that anyone visiting these forums is a wanderer of some kind responding to a deep calling within themselves.

this planet is amazing and beautiful, but it feels alien to me. society and people can fascinate me at times, but i can't shake the feeling that i come from somewhere a hell of a lot more harmonious. a place where love isn't just this narrowband thing that people project at one mate or their family, but something people strive to give openly to as many as they can. the deeper i go into my journey of seeking, the more alien everything feels to me.

homesick for a world i don't even remember or just good old fashioned emotionally damaged human being?

so i'm stuck with this sense that this world is going to have some big big change and the people native to this place are going to have a hard time understanding it. so a bunch of people who do have the capcity to understand it (because they already live in this change or have lived through it) are here to help them.

i've been living with these ideas in my head for some time now and i litterally haven't told a single soul. lets face it - to someone with no spiritual inkling at all, it would probably be enough to get me locked away as a schizophrenic in this society.

i guess you could call me a somewhat lost wanderer in a sense.

LeeEllisMusic

01-16-2010, 10:06 AM

hello all,

i posted about my being a wanderer on another thread a while ago:

http://divinecosmos.com/forums/showthread.php?p=53594#post53594

i look forward to connecting with you all, and send many blessings...
love & light, :)
lee

noppy

01-18-2010, 03:30 AM

Kittybriton

01-18-2010, 09:01 AM

11wanderer11

01-19-2010, 08:59 PM

i hope i'm not alone in feeling that there are many out there who need our help and support (or will at some point in the future). how do we help? the one thing i am confident enough to say it is more or less universal, is to be willing to support them if we are asked when they find their world collapsing around them. show them how the collapse is not disaster, but change, how it can be change for the better.

and don't forget the importance of being willing to help "other" because we are all water in the same ocean.

apologies if i have hijacked the thread. noppy's words caused me concern.

please continue to discuss the question of identifying the wanderers among us.

noppy doesn't write perfect english so i guess that confused you? just reread the post & you can clearly see 'let the world die' part was part of a general opinion that noppy goes on to disapprove of & encourage love and acceptance in the next sentence...

peace, love, namaste, whatever to you, just saying there was no need for concern there.

Cosmicdjinn

01-19-2010, 10:15 PM

accorind to the definition of a wanderer provided on the website -> http://www.llresearch.org/wanderer.aspx on page one of this thread, i do believe that i am a wanderer.
i have always felt as though i didn't fit perfectly among everyone else. often judged on my appearence or actions although i feel myself to be completely normal as to my standard. often times my decision on a matter, or discussion will win or lose solely on my aparent different point of view, or seeing the issue or question.
also i was always good in school, but got bad grades due to getting into trouble. often times i would miss out on work or, be suspended or something... but come time to do tests or quiz's i could pass them having no knowledge of the test. i do seem to have a better understanding for alot of things than most, but think that possibly did poorly because the level i was on was not the level i should have been on. now i'm not saying that i think that wanderers are incredibly smart, or that i am. i'm just saying that i know i always look at things differently, and sense things differently than alot people. and alot of times have a better angle or reason for having looked or felt that way. but, i will say that i have a 9th grade education and i possess very good knowledge of mathematics, physics, as well i am a tradesman (electrical, mechanical, structural), and do all sorts of work without very little problem if any. and learn to do them or anything very well. i buid websites, and do computer graphic work, i do drafting, and 3d design. i designed my first industrial overhead crane prototype a couple years ago that runs on solar power and uses the gravity of the hoist to balance the entire crane, instead of using 2 end tricks and 4 wheels and rail sweeps. i have several differnt models of crane designed and all hold copyright and patent numbers.
now, i could go on all day about these kind of things that i do but... i would just look like a fool or look as if trying to proove my intelligence, but... having a 9th grade education and and working construction since i was 18 (now 31), is is possible that i possess a greater knowledge or understanding of things than other people. and, not having succeeded in acedemics blows my chance to make my mark somewhere. could this just be coincidence? i wouldn't say coincidence, because i know my own feeling of it. but, you all can judge for yourself...i'm just laying it on the table for examination.

thanks.

Happystrings

01-19-2010, 10:26 PM

[quote=kittybriton;54112]i hope i'm not alone in feeling that there are many out there who need our help and support (or will at some point in the future). how do we help? the one thing i am confident enough to say it is more or less universal, is to be willing to support them if we are asked when they find their world collapsing around them. show them how the collapse is not disaster, but change, how it can be change for the better.[quote]

thanks kittybriton. i agree and change is the operative word. change their perspective, change their thinking, change their lives. there is so much fear porn out there and it is easy to get caught up in it. when you don't know who you are, and yet you have a knowing that there is something different about you the net effect is a feeling of being lost and alone. we have the knowledge and can offer whatever is needed. i find it is seldom that i encounter anyone who is better informed than the folks on this forum and with the loo and acim readers.

evolving

01-19-2010, 11:24 PM

is is possible that i possess a greater knowledge or understanding of things

at the very least close to 800 incarnations in 3rd density to ascend to 4th, we really undervalue what we truly know. you know far more than you can imagine brother...

NegaNova

01-20-2010, 12:16 AM

i've read somewere in a book that wanderers don't ask question. if e person ask if she/he is a wanderer than that person is not a wanderer. cause true wanderers don't ask question to nobody, they already know it them selve. like that little boy boriska, and jesus. they didn;t ask anybody, they already know it themselve.

we don't know what is gona happen on 2012 but let the whole world die, only the chosen one may enter harvest and the rest need to go somewere els to do it all over agian because of spritual diffrence, ain't compasion and is taken away free-will. if some e.t. or channeld work is saying that, than let us step away from that future. we can create something bigger than that, we can let the most low evolved being and the most unfortunate come with the whole collective human family with lots of love truth and joy to 4d/5d.

agreed, i'm not sure about wanderers just knowing all the answers. we've all chosen to incarnate into a third density environment, where knowing is not part of the vibration. we exist in this illusion in order to experience separation and the confusion that comes with it. i know that carla still channels today and q'uo always starts out its channel by saying to not believe anything that doesn't resonate with you, even if they are saying it, because you are the one who is seeking and you'll find exactly what you need to hear. in a sense i imagine we're all wanderers, as we're all from the source of creation and were together in the beginning.

kundalini

01-20-2010, 05:10 PM

i've read somewere in a book that wanderers don't ask question. if e person ask if she/he is a wanderer than that person is not a wanderer. cause true wanderers don't ask question to nobody, they already know it them selve.

i'm affraid i don't agree with you there my friend. ra did state in the loo (and i wish i could remember where abouts) that wanderers go through the same veiling process as everyone else here, and there are a large percentage of them that don't have a clue who they are and an even bigger percentage that have some clue, but are not quite sure what to make of it. unfortunatly it seems being from another density isn't a guarantee to break the veil.

in some sense i would be more inclined to believe the opposite of what you stated. i think if you are asking the questions then you almost certainly are a wanderer.

in the words of the l/l research website:
"wanderers are each unique and come in all shapes and sizes, but their likeliest common characteristics are a sense of alienation and isolation as they make choices of how to live and be, and cope with a strong and increasing inner knowing that they are here to serve."

http://www.llresearch.org/wanderer.aspx

evolving

01-20-2010, 10:55 PM

this post is directed to those that question the wanderer's motives and abilities.

first, about penetrating the veil. just to clarify, the memory block (forgetting) is only one part of the veil. is this possible and how many do come to understand they are indeed wanderers?

36.17 ra: i am ra. the wanderer has the potential of greatly accelerating the density whence it comes in its progress in evolution. this is due to the intensive life experiences and opportunities of the third-density. thusly the positively oriented wanderer chooses to hazard the danger of the forgetting in order to be of service to others by radiating love of others. if the forgetting is penetrated the amount of catalyst in third-density will polarize the wanderer with much greater efficiency than shall be expected in the higher and more harmonious densities.percentages that penetrate the memory block of the veil.

36.24 questioner: i’ll just ask one short one before we close. can you tell me what percentage of the wanderers on earth today have been successful in penetrating the memory block and have become aware of who they are, and finally, is there anything that we can do to make the instrument more comfortable or to improve the contact?

ra: i am ra. we can approximate the percentage of those penetrating intelligently their status. this is between eight and one-half and nine and three-quarters percent. there is a larger percentile group of those who have a fairly well defined, shall we say, symptomology indicating to them that they are not of this, shall we say, “insanity.” this amounts to a bit over fifty percent of the remainder. nearly one-third of the remainder are aware that something about them is different, so you see there are many gradations of awakening to the knowledge of being a wanderer. we may add that it is to the middle and first of these groups that this information will, shall we say, make sense.below refers to the forgetting being penetrated and the types of service offered.

65.12 questioner: then each of the wanderers here acts as a function of the biases he has developed in any way he sees fit to communicate or simply be in his polarity to aid the total consciousness of the planet. is there any physical way in which he aids, perhaps by his vibrations somehow just adding to the planet just as electrical polarity or charging a battery? does that also aid the planet, just the physical presence of the wanderers?

ra: i am ra. this is correct and the mechanism is precisely as you state. we intended this meaning in the second portion of our previous answer.

you may, at this time, note that as with any entities, each wanderer has its unique abilities, biases, and specialities so that from each portion of each density represented among the wanderers come an array of pre-incarnative talents which then may be expressed upon this plane which you now experience so that each wanderer, in offering itself before incarnation, has some special service to offer in addition to the doubling effect of planetary love and light and the basic function of serving as beacon or shepherd.

thus there are those of fifth-density whose abilities to express wisdom are great. there are fourth and sixth-density wanderers whose ability to serve as, shall we say, passive radiators or broadcasters of love and love/light are immense. there are many others whose talents brought into this density are quite varied.

thus wanderers have three basic functions once the forgetting is penetrated, the first two being basic, the tertiary one being unique to that particular mind/body/spirit complex.

conundrum

01-20-2010, 11:14 PM

i am not to sure if i am a wanderer or a blunderer .. morpheus said take the red pill or the blue pill i swallowed both .
then like babe i trotted up on that little hill and sang la la l.a.

big mistake or a lesson in regards to being a glutton and or taking pills in general or any thing similar liquid in bottles cans ect as they only cover up the pain anxiety errections self loathing ect.

the loo material can be used to clean out ones internal crap if one desires instead of projecting ones fears judgments onto others or at least that is what the intention may have been who knows depends which way you have polarised i guess dam fear knot makes it hard to decide especially when we are one.

agreed, i'm not sure about wanderers just knowing all the answers.

i doubt very much that wanderer would appreciate in being perceived in such a light any way that might be seen as messiah factor.. messengers might be more appropriate you are the light you are the love you are the one you've been waiting for.. here are the tools heal your self and those around you.

one embodied soul would have a hard time healing every body on the planet where as if you learn how to heal your self you no longer have to look outside of your self for the healing you can be part of the support instead of being the victim patient problem what ever you would like to call it.

transiten

01-21-2010, 04:35 AM

hello conuncdrum

i sometimes find it hard to follow you because of your "special" way of expression but this one was spot on i think! thanks!

transiten

kundalini

01-21-2010, 10:09 AM

thanks for that evolving. i knew i had read that stuff, just couldn't remember for the life of me which book or session. good job :)

MikeSirius

01-23-2010, 02:13 PM

i never felt at my place all my life. i feel like i am on a camping trip observing the natives.
i never felt money was logic, fair or useful as a concept. i used to tell the truth to everybody until i learned better. i always side with the underdog.
i use a very old and proven to work natural energy medicine modality to help other-selves get in better health.

2 years ago, in a guided meditation, with a healer, i was brought to a temple, on a table, the was 4 pillars and 4 guards, the roof opened up, the stars in the sky rotated until i lined up one star and i was propelled to that star in a few seconds inside the tunnel of colors whizzing by. a name popped up in my consciouness : sirius. i landed my consciouness on a planet next to the star and i knew i was home. i missed it so much, i started eating grass. i was near a small lake. there was trees only and grass. no building. no roads. the trees were alive and moving around by growing vines tentacles very fast. we have no physical body there. we use the sphere of energy to move around. we also are the trees but not the lake as it is sacred.

i went back a couple of other times. all the spheres together form one entity.

my best guess is i have been around earth for a few lives. always to help around. mostly in a medical function. last life , i fought the japanese as an american in the air force. never came back with my body.

recently, my dreams are so realistic, vivid, and i know i am dreaming.

love you all. let's make a beautiful harvest.;)

go sirians !

IaMrEaDy

01-25-2010, 09:05 PM

Fortyball

01-26-2010, 10:57 AM

i'm affraid i don't agree with you there my friend. ra did state in the loo (and i wish i could remember where abouts) that wanderers go through the same veiling process as everyone else here, and there are a large percentage of them that don't have a clue who they are and an even bigger percentage that have some clue, but are not quite sure what to make of it. unfortunatly it seems being from another density isn't a guarantee to break the veil.

in some sense i would be more inclined to believe the opposite of what you stated. i think if you are asking the questions then you almost certainly are a wanderer.

in the words of the l/l research website:
"wanderers are each unique and come in all shapes and sizes, but their likeliest common characteristics are a sense of alienation and isolation as they make choices of how to live and be, and cope with a strong and increasing inner knowing that they are here to serve."

http://www.llresearch.org/wanderer.aspx

id have to agree with you there man

ds37ds

01-26-2010, 11:06 AM

" i am a wander who chose to love instead of walk the path of hate."

wow iamready, what nice synchronicity!

i was listening to this song when i read your post:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieubj_xpv7c&feature=related

scarlett

01-27-2010, 06:05 PM

" i am a wander who chose to love instead of walk the path of hate."
the things that make me think i "might" be a wanderer are: 1) being drawn to edgar cacye health readings since 2006; 2) studying a course in miracles which in my opinion parallels the law of one; 3) the opening of my kundalini as a result of using the radiac mentioned in e cayce's readings; 4) one afternoon i was meditating and i had a vision of purple pyramid and a raven which sort of woke me up and startled me some. then, i turned on david's wander awakening mp3 recording and heard him taking about the power of pyramid technology.
i resonate with the divine cosmos information at this time due to the advanced use of metaphysical information as it relates to the evolution the our dna, as well as, how it coincides my a course in miracles studies ("oneness" and illusion). divine cosmos is a place where i can talk about planets, energy, dna downloads, and other mind bending stuff. where as my a course in miracles focuses on the necessity of forgivenss as the road to enlightenment. therefore divine cosmos "fits." does this mean i am a wanderer? well, i suppose we all want to belong somewhere. i feel like i'm with like-minded individuals on this site and i certainly support david's endeavors as being one of the "liberators" of the world. my mind keeps expanding and expanding all the time.
love and light:rolleyes:, scarlett

lvxseeker

04-17-2010, 01:26 AM

in addition to wanderers being from advanced densities (4th or 6th), mind/spirit/body complexes of this third density who have attained ascendancy, but have remained in further incarnations in order to resonate light and thus increase the vibrational frequency for everyone here, are also termed wanderers.

you seem to be saying that there are no wanderers from 5th density.

i wonder why this is so?

love oneness

04-18-2010, 07:36 AM

hey i hope there are 5th density wanderers, cuz i think i might be one. ive been slowly warming to the idea of being a wanderer for sometime now, i would be in major denial if i didnt, all the signs are there. so i just assumed if i was one then id have be from fourth. btw ever since my first read of the ra material ive always had a fondness for fith, it seemed the best. but i had an experience while pondering it where i asked myself where im from and a soft sort of femanine voice said to me "your from fith" and i said "fourth?"in my aussie male accent and the neutral voice replied "no steve, your from fith density"

i guess ill never know for sure while incarnate but id love to experience fith density, even if im not from there and gotta pass through 4th first. for the time being im under the assumption im an earth native 3rd density, but as time goes by i feel like im in denial, and dont want to inflate the ego by setting in my mind that a density as high as 5th is home.

billybobbutterball

04-18-2010, 09:10 AM

hi, just passing by, but the bit about the wanderers caught my eye... somewhere in the ra material -- or other related channeling's at llresearch.org., i was surprised that it was stated that the majority of positive wanderers were of 5th or 6th density, with 4th being relatively rare (jesus was from the upper 4th) of the three involved in "team ra material", it was stated that two were of 6th and one of 5th...but identifying which was what was not allowed on the usual grounds of not dinking around with free will.

for what its worth....

to expand on the subject it has also been stated that the number of negative wanderers is extremely low in comparison --- it seems that the advanced negatives' don't think it worth taking the chance of weakening, or even 'worse', flip-flopping their hard-earned polarity.

as for myself i identify more with being a striving 3rd.

actually, we don't really know much about ourselves . from the stunning works of dolores cannon and michael newton --age regressionists -- it appears that only a portion of our souls are involved in any particular reincarnation..and when we come in we blend with the properties of the animal body we are borrowing....meanwhile, while we are here, other major aspects of our soul stuff can be busily engaged in far-reaching, creative activities off-planet.:cool:

younger souls coming into their first experiences can borrow an overlay of other life experiences as a guiding imprint...thus why so many think they were once cleopatra or napoleon in previous life adventures...its all enough to make one stop and think awhile.

best, bbb:)

you seem to be saying that there are no wanderers from 5th density.

i wonder why this is so?

originally posted by evolving
in addition to wanderers being from advanced densities (4th or 6th), mind/spirit/body complexes of this third density who have attained ascendancy, but have remained in further incarnations in order to resonate light and thus increase the vibrational frequency for everyone here, are also termed wanderers.

LunarCrystal

04-19-2010, 01:32 PM

i always hear lots of stories from wanderers on metaphysical sites, but i don't hear many from people who _aren't_ wanderers.

i'm pretty sure i'm not a wanderer :) i seem to have pretty close ties to the earth and to humanity, i've definitely been incarnating on the earth for at least a few thousand years anyway.

sometimes i get depressed thinking of ra's very low predictions for the number of people who are going to make the harvest - looking at the predicted numbers that you can glean from the loo makes it seem like most of the harvest will be wanderers and earth natives won't be represented very strongly. this is always a sad thought... it would actually make me feel a lot better to know that there are earth natives who are getting into this material, that it's not just 6th density wanderers that are remembering who they are. (the far majority of wanderers are 6th density if i recall correctly)

just a quick thought to try to comfort you a little... won't the souls of the earth natives then be reincarnated from the offspring of the wanders that are left over? not such a bad thing, then... in fact, probably a necessary filter for new earthly human souls to be parented by wise "wanderers" living in the human experience.

i feel i am a wander as well, and will share my experiences soon...

George the Greek

04-22-2010, 11:23 AM

i think if you are asking the questions then you almost certainly are a wanderer.

in the words of the l/l research website:
"wanderers are each unique and come in all shapes and sizes, but their likeliest common characteristics are a sense of alienation and isolation as they make choices of how to live and be, and cope with a strong and increasing inner knowing that they are here to serve."

http://www.llresearch.org/wanderer.aspx

if that's the case, then i am a wanderer. :o even though i still don't believe it somehow.

i've always felt isolated, alienated and that i do not belong here. this feeling is getting stronger as time progresses. i also feel that i am growing out of the need to experience our common pleasures, as in relationships with the opposite sex, friendship, music, philosophy, money, love for material objects, good food even art & design (which is what i'm studying now) don't know if that is good or bad :( but it's just the way it is.

can anyone relate to that?

if i am a wanderer, then i have spent to much time 'wondering' about spiritual things and feeling depressed, instead of doing something about it. have i dissapointed my friends in the higher realms and all of you? that's what i'm worried about...

love through light,

george

evolving

04-24-2010, 08:31 AM

if that's the case, then i am a wanderer. :o even though i still don't believe it somehow.

i've always felt isolated, alienated and that i do not belong here. this feeling is getting stronger as time progresses. i also feel that i am growing out of the need to experience our common pleasures, as in relationships with the opposite sex, friendship, music, philosophy, money, love for material objects, good food even art & design (which is what i'm studying now) don't know if that is good or bad :( but it's just the way it is.

can anyone relate to that?

if i am a wanderer, then i have spent to much time 'wondering' about spiritual things and feeling depressed, instead of doing something about it. have i dissapointed my friends in the higher realms and all of you? that's what i'm worried about...

love through light,

george

george, you have done nothing wrong brother. none are disappointed in you, and all love and cherish you deeply.

you planned pre-incarnate to awaken at several possible different times, which i suspect you previously ignored (irregardless of that nagging feeling), but this was perfectly alright, because your choice to awaken or ignore such was according to your free will. you have awakened now, though, and not a moment too soon (or too late).

once awakened, many things change for all of us, as they change now for you. this is all part of the process. be thankful for all you have been given, for this truly is a gift to be here at this time, and you are unwrapping this present right now! there is plenty of time to complete the work you chose to do while here. i wish you a continued journey full of increased catalyst, for in this density, the low road is the high road :)

Alnakl

04-27-2010, 01:34 PM

as the situation intensifies so does the enormity of the task ahead for us wanderers (volunteers --- oh what have i done) begin to unfold. it is extremely difficult for the vast majority of people to take on board just what is going on. even my wife ridicules me every time i try to drop her a hint as to why such and such happened. i'm really going to hate it when civil disorder breaks out and people turn against each other. it doesn't seem to take much for people to go out looting and rioting a soon as scarcity sets in.

however, i feel charged with a sense of purpose, and will do my utmost to hold the people around me together. ( and anybody else who wants to tag along with us.)

Psion 3-K

05-13-2010, 06:08 AM

i have a feeling i am a wanderer but i'm always left with a sense of uncertainty about this. i've never received any truly memorable divine messages describing me as such, but i have received messages saying i'm a 'fallen angel' which is something i described in another thread. that doesn't really mean something negative, though. through a lot of deep meditation and trial and error, i came to the following conclusions...

i'm here on a duty to improve the energetic state of the earth. for me this requires 3 different duties... they are as follows.

negative energy clearing: in a way similar to how people meditate in large groups to achieve quick and noticeable worldwide change, i attempt to neutralize the bad vibes people put out inadvertently. since i am working alone most of the time, i find that my work in all areas of my higher goals is mostly effective in its ability to enhance the existing energetic structure. step one is to focus on the most major negative energy sources worldwide and attempt to water those down.

positive energy enhancement/contingency planning: that may sound a bit funny, but this part of the job requires me adding as much positive energy to the mix at the same time i am weakening the existing negative energy. the contingency planning part has me imagining ways in which people will attempt to adversely effect the existing harmonic structure in the future and preparing for that.

cooperative duties: this has by far been the most bizarre level of this experience for me because it seems like the majority of the time i'm simply acting on my own. at times, however, i get a sense of being stuck in a kind of automatic writing state of being. i feel as if something is coming through me consistently and guiding all of my actions. in these instances i have come to the conclusion that a higher source is using my tools for some duty they have. whenever this occurs, it is easy to tell that the higher being is coming from a place of positivity.

i think the reason i was called a 'fallen angel' on multiple occasions is because working through the negative energetic structure to destabilize it requires one to infiltrate it, so to speak. this means you have to be very familiar with all the negative vibrations and how to counteract them. essentially this leads to you having to temporarily resonate the same vibrations but only so that you can join them back to their opposite reference point. the problem with unawakened people is that they have no concept of how dark is supposed to function in terms of light. instead of seeing dark as one facet meant to give you the blessing of experience, they consistently hate those situations.

i think that is how a fallen angel actually operates. this is all theory on some level, but it hasn't stopped me from doing good intentioned energy work. a 'fallen angel' basically turns its back on the light in an attempt to delve into a realm which is energetically destructive, his aims to balance it. as a relevant anecdote, i will mention that last year when i was dealing with negative vibes long enough, i began to feel aches and pains all throughout my body not associated with any physical injury i sustained...

yes, i know this probably makes no sense in regard to the existing literature on fallen angels, but regardless of this, my goals are to help this world awaken to its true potential. well, these are my thoughts yet again. i hope this makes sense to people at large because so far this knowledge hasn't led me astray... best wishes to everyone!

12thUranus

05-14-2010, 05:10 AM

this will be difficult to write in a cohesive, entertaining way. let me start by saying that in my session i was ignorant to all that i learned following it.

during a past life regression session, i was standing on a mountain in the clouds. the rock at the top was a series of tall, cylindrical stones with domed tops. i was alone. i said "i am looking over the vastness of love." attempting to discover more, i became the mountain, or dropped down into the pitch black center. then (the best meditation experience to date), my body began to rock side to side, and while rocking i began spinning head to toe (not physically of course). i was traveling fast, i felt motion sickness. i stopped at a point deep in outer space. i was standing on a tiny planet just looking out into the deep. an entity approached from behind and below my right side. he was frog-like and extremely giddy and ecstatic to see me. i didn't receive any profound statements from him. the conclusion was, though, that i am leading my life exactly as i am intended to do and i should accept what seems simple as important.

i was reading loo at the time. two days after the "session", i came to the loo 87.7 the environment of your companion is that of the rock, the cave, the place of barrenness, for this is the density of wisdom and that which is needed may be thought and received. to this entity very little is necessary upon the physical, if you will, or space/time complex of distortions.

also, as i came to the close of loo, i researched further into tarot. number 22, the choice, has a crocodile coming up from the lower right side!

furthermore, i watched 2012: event horizon recently. the stones i saw on the mountain looked precisely like the first menhir shown.

on a different note, i once had a past life regression where i was hooded and speaking to a lizard man. it was night, and only light were torches placed on coliseum type pillars. it sounds cheesy i'm sure, but this was definitely before i saw the famous picture of a hooded "reptilian."

i don't know what to think of all this. i half believe it myself. i know i saw it and experienced the synchronisity of it, but sometimes i just think it was only my imagination.
when i consciously search my self, i tend to lean toward the idea that i am new here; that i am "the meek that will inherit the earth" so to speak. meaning, i feel more that i am one of those that will stay in third density at the big transition. when i allow this thought of taking on the "new earth" to envelop me, as i am typing now, i feel my heart expanding to reach out to all the unaware souls that will be repeating this density again.

please, all of you, give me your unrelenting opinions about this post.

love and blessings

Eaglesong

05-14-2010, 10:56 AM

as the situation intensifies so does the enormity of the task ahead for us wanderers (volunteers --- oh what have i done) begin to unfold.

i dropped in today to see if anyone else had made the wanderer/volunteer connection. this was nearly the first post i read, so i figured there must to be something in my seeking.

i did a search on dolores cannon as well and see that david has mentioned her in a few blogs. so i hope this is an appropriate query for this space.

i spent the last few days looking around for some discussion boards regarding "the 3 waves" mentioned in her work. suddenly it occurred to me that i have been a member of this site for several years and surely people who may identify with her definition of volunteers/waves, would also consider themselves to be wanderers.

is there another place on the boards where this may have been discussed? if not, i'd love to connect with others who may resonate with both of these always positively light driven theories.

Deambor

05-14-2010, 08:08 PM

12thUranus

05-15-2010, 06:35 AM

hi, 12thuranus.

somehow your message resonated with me in a big way. it brings me joy.
....
i think it was a great message from your higher self, uranus.
i'm happy for you. great job.

thank you so much deambor.
your kind words prompted me to view your posts, which lead me to this carla video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgvqm3wgh_k&feature=channel
greatness. she reflects the same sentiment :) . she also speaks to the idea that even wanderers have chosen to move through the densities step by step. this is truly how i feel inside, that i chose this because the opportunity was too precious and the adventure too alluring.

i'd like to add something about my experience that may throw a wrench into this, but its prominent in my mind right now.
i recently read the book by randy rogers- the key of life; a metaphysical investigation. in the book, he proposes the idea (only proposes, doesn't conclude) that if this time always exists, when we choose our incarnation, we have the entire timeline of humanity to choose a person to incarnate. in other words, this body i am in always exists in 2010 for infinity, and those that are choosing bodies always have this body as a choice, as it does every other body. it was a brand new concept to me. i had never imagined that proposition.
after reading the book, i decided to listen to the recording of my "session". it would be my first time to listen to it. i had made it a year ago. well, when asking the frog-dude what his relationship to me is, without hesitation, i spoke the answer "i was him once." :eek:!! i hadn't remembered this at all, and its probably because, not fathoming the concept, i disregarded its meaning. ... i can just remember how happy, ecstatic, giddy, gleeful he was to see me. it must all mean, as you have helped me confirm deambor, that i am where i am supposed to be. if i was in fact visiting my higher self, or at least one who knows my path better than i, his glee at my being there should indicate that i'm progressing nicely along :)

love and blessings,
jason

shadowoman52

05-15-2010, 08:41 PM

Happystrings

05-17-2010, 09:58 PM

i've just learned of the term "wanderer" since i've been reading information on
david's site. i'm 59 and have been searching for answers to my particular "condition" (for want of a better term) for about a half century now. the information i have been able to find over the years was sketchy at best and left me with more questions than answers. by the age of 10, i was buying edgar cayce and lobsang rampa books with my babysitting money. the sixties brought in the roscucians studies and psychosybernetics and paramahansa yogananda. the seventies abounded with maharishi mahesh yogi and transandental meditation. the eighties was teaming with channelers from shirley maclaine, ruth montgomery and jane roberts. the ninties changed direction with witley strieber and art bell...........the search for answers has seemed endless. but i persevere. now david willcock is bringing forth information that clicks with me and finally gives an explanation of all the things i've been through for 50 years...i just makes sense to me.

i've just joined this forum and hope to find other wanderers who have "awakened".
i have so much to say................

omg! you're a twin to me! (i think [name] still around! bet you read [email for book name] too...) only i'm older :d

yes, the wilcock stuff just cements it all together on the mundane side and quite a bit on the spiritual side too. enjoy the forum...there are some great minds sharing here. i have found illuminating words of wisdom here and fascinating links to the science of it all too...

the mods do a good job of keeping the extremists in check. members work really hard to come to understandings and learn from each other. :cool:

it is a good place to check up on what is happening in our world. did you read allthe stuff about being a wandered on the loo site? if not, get over there and start reading....one of our generation has been hard at work bringing in enlightement and wisdom...

namaste.

Psion 3-K

05-18-2010, 10:42 AM

hi, 12thuranus.

somehow your message resonated with me in a big way. it brings me joy.

let's take, for example, your words "i am leading my life exactly as i am intended to do and i should accept what seems simple as important".
this is a very simple statement, but it's maybe one of the key issues to understanding our purpose here now.

we often wonder who we are and what we are and why we are here and what our mission and purpose is. and yet i think in your statement the decoding of the answer is contained. it may be that our purpose and mission is just being here at this time. nothing more than just being here. it's that simple. yet it's that important.
when we are looking for something big in life, our perception of "big" is distorted by our environment.
some of us think that we are angels (fallen or not), others think we are ets. and we may be all this. but it's not that matters.
i think accepting what seems simple as important is a hint for us not to worry too much wheather we are wanderers or messianic figures, but to wake up each morning with the open heart, and go through each day with all its seemingly unenlightened routine as best as we can. and maybe this is what really matters. it seems simple, but it's that important.

i think it was a great message from your higher self, uranus.
i'm happy for you. great job.

that's all rather important on a basic level, i agree totally. but of course, the human soul wants more more than to simply be. i think simply being in the moment, being who you are, or just maintaining harmony is the default desire of the human spirit. i think we come here as human beings to guide that beingness into something much more directed and enriching. i also agree about what you say about our origins; i may be a wanderer or an et or some kind of angel, or heck, maybe i am the reincarnation of a soldier who died on the beaches of normandy.

none of that truly matters in the finest sense, though. what matters is our ability to direct our beingness with what we have now, not what we think we were previously. just being is like owning a computer with only the programs it came with... it will get you what you desire and help you in your goals, but no one ever buys a computer without planning to purchase new programs. in this life we are making new programs to better paint how we wish to be...

12thUranus

05-19-2010, 08:59 PM

that's all rather important on a basic level, i agree totally. but of course, the human soul wants more more than to simply be. i think simply being in the moment, being who you are, or just maintaining harmony is the default desire of the human spirit. i think we come here as human beings to guide that beingness into something much more directed and enriching. i also agree about what you say about our origins; i may be a wanderer or an et or some kind of angel, or heck, maybe i am the reincarnation of a soldier who died on the beaches of normandy.

none of that truly matters in the finest sense, though. what matters is our ability to direct our beingness with what we have now, not what we think we were previously. just being is like owning a computer with only the programs it came with... it will get you what you desire and help you in your goals, but no one ever buys a computer without planning to purchase new programs. in this life we are making new programs to better paint how we wish to be...

harmony is a grand achievement that has no qualities of neglect, absence, or default.

i believe i get your meaning and understand your purpose in this post. it is a valid point.
although, it could be possible you are underestimating "simply being." deambor's post elaborated my simple sentence (which came from a spiritual place to begin with) perfectly. i re-read de's reply before posting this, and i think its even better now.

you see, for me, "leading my life" is loving my wife and kids, "being" a strong foundation of positive influence, and/or "being" a parent. we were foster parents until we adopted and conceived our own, and this is one of the thoughts that stress me because we really want the resources to foster again (virtually impossible at our current stage). this is my purpose, my direction. some of us, me, get so caught up in wanting to achieve more that we overlook the small victories of every day (which aren't small are they?). we can overload with programs that tax our central processing. sometimes, the best thing can be a reminder that all we ever needed, truly, came right out of the box.

well, in keeping with the divinecosmos forum, i came across this quote in search for something better to say. how synchronistic it comes from benjamin spock
~ i would say that the surest measure of a man's or a woman's maturity is the harmony, style, joy, and dignity he creates in his marriage, and the pleasure and inspiration he provides for his spouse ~
benjamin spock

love and blessings,

daguitri

05-20-2010, 08:07 PM

i think i am. i at least have an accidental kundalini awakening that i can't tell myself didn't happen that keeps me from lying to myself about that fact. also, if anyone has doubts they should really check out "the inner guide meditation" and the alien horoscopic patterns the book mentions. fascinating stuff, and it really does apply well to starseeds. it cleared up my doubts. so, if i know for a fact im a wanderer, that means that something is gonna go down in 2012. yay, i guess.

charmainefrost

05-24-2010, 12:21 AM

.

i've always felt isolated, alienated and that i do not belong here. this feeling is getting stronger as time progresses. i also feel that i am growing out of the need to experience our common pleasures, as in relationships with the opposite sex, friendship, music, philosophy, money, love for material objects, good food even art & design (which is what i'm studying now) don't know if that is good or bad :( but it's just the way it is.

can anyone relate to that?
george

relate totally! also always felt isolated and alienated, even at age 6. for most of the life dramas that tend to engross people, and the pleasures that people seek so avidly, i've felt like an observer, or like an actor in a play (playing the part, but simultaneously aware that he's just reading one of many possible roles and feeling acutely aware that "the part" is different from "who i am"). often feel like i'm just "doing a stint" here, playing a game of "let's pretend" in this holographic reality, so not really attached to any of the people or places encountered along the way. hmmm, and i seem to have an anthropologist's approach to the "common pleasures" - a curiosity to understand what the attraction is, followed soon by disinterest when the pattern become known and predictable (although some music and some art continue to have appeal, as even repetitions of some tunes/images can continue to stir the emotions)

with relationships, i generally have not wanted the entanglements of spouse/partner and/or children, nor the frequently found friendships based on mutual neediness/neurosis, otoh, some deeply idealistic part of me longs for a kind of deep, soul-to-soul contact where friends/partners almost telepathically understand one another completely down to the deepest levels, a communion of heart and mind. ordinary relationships, even happy ones not based in mutual neurotic neediness, don't even come close

BlueSpiral

05-24-2010, 07:54 AM

george, i too can totally relate, and this is how i felt much of my life and still do to some degree. i suffered depression even as a child, but i can say i'm past it...mostly (i'm 40 now). part of it has been self analysis, awakening, even therapy when things got bad. realize that we are not here to isolate ourselves as tempting as it may be. you were chosen to come at this amazing time in history and you agreed because you have an extremely important role to play. becoming involved in humanity is crucial. you don't have to go around preaching any spirituality, but living with your heart open at a high vibration and just being around others, helps more than we can fathom. by living authentically and expressing love just through your thoughts, especially to those who annoy you the most is profound. those people that really get to me are the ones i send the most love to. they are my most important teachers. i promise you when you start sending out love, it will come racing back to you, just watch :) it's pretty amazing.

because we are outsiders and don't get sucked into the drama, we make excellent counselors, mediators, teachers, etc..and we tend to see all sides of a situation. it's important also that we practice nonjudgement. we have a lot to offer!

halo宝宝

06-06-2010, 07:46 PM

absolutely most of us here are wanderers.we come here with a mission of shinning the light of oneness for the acension of the whole planet

Psion 3-K

06-14-2010, 12:22 PM

around this time last year i was experiencing a good deal of energetic and spiritual turbulance. i felt like i was mitigating some kind of energetic crisis. let me set the background first so that you'll see how this thing has evolved, though. please note that i have a lot of trouble identifying with all these things and that i've constantly been left with more questions than answers. nothing is ever for certain and whenever i reread my own words, i find it hard to believe myself.

in 2007 i was withdrawing from psychiatric medication. i was given them because according to wilcock i was experiencing a pineal gland activation which malfunctioned. of course, society is not prepared to deal with such things so i was drugged. through that experience, i began receiving some kind of 'message'... i believe it was a kind of briefing on what i was sent here to do in terms of raising the earth's energy level.

the message said that i'm a kind of energetic harmonizer. at times the earth has periods of crises which creates large occurrences of intensifying negative energy. at the time i didn't fully identify with any of this. in 2007 i had way too many reasons not to believe any of it. despite that, i still found myself calling upon knowledge i didn't know i had in order to do what this message told me. i felt extremely weird...

i kept seeing weird events in my mind's eye, very disturbing things in the environment which were apparently manifestations of the energetic fluctuations i was tasked with correcting . for awhile i just ignored them. but they did not go away and in fact they only got worse. that's when i began to apply the knowledge of ways to deal with these things. for some time i was combating a force which only responded to the esoteric tools i was 'shown'.

after awhile things went back to normal. i didn't see any more of these energetic occurrences and no one would have been able to tell what happened. i didn't think this would ever happen again but i was wrong. in 2008 and 2009 similar things occurred which also only responded to the 'devices' i was given. all through these events i was holding a perfect front; no one realized anything was wrong.

yet every time i was alone my reality began to warp and fray and i found myself in a place which was experiencing radical imbalances of energy. last year i did something dangerous, though. very dangerous, in fact. i got sick and tired of doing nothing and something at the same time. so you know what i did? i quit. i threw away the tools and shunned this whole notion like i'd never done before. this was a huge mistake and it nearly cost me my life. physically, i'm not joking as i nearly killed myself.

as soon as i walked away from this duty and shut down all of my defenses, these negative vibes i was dealing with intensified 100 fold and jumped me all at once. my mind was absolutly strangled beneath a sheath of darkness so terrible that i found myself with knife to my own wrist. i'm not kidding one little bit. you see, i'm not a suicidal person at all, not at all. my life was and continues to be great.

that emotional sensation was the bottom rung; it was like total defeat and the only thing that saved me was some outside force which jumped into my physical body, blasted all the negative vibes away and just managed to prevent me from cutting myself deeply enough. as soon as that happened it faded away slowely and i heard the words 'a new channel has opened in your life'. then that voice was gone and i found myself diving for those tools i only minutes ago ditched

i put my defenses back up and i found myself where i was previously. some time passes by and the conflict is resolved. then i was back to my normal state of reality and everything was just as ordinary as ever. so what do i take from all of this? i challenged a very vague and bizarre notion that i was on a special task here on earth and i nearly died because of it. this isn't because the system was trying to punish me but because i essentially ran into a crossfire of bullets in a very active 'combat zone'. that's what it was... i felt these crazy sensations all over my body as i was performing these tasks.

call me crazy but i cannot show anyone exactly what this was like. to this day my wrist still tingles with a faint energetic sensation. it's very strange... all of this. i know i was doing something. that's undeniable. i decided to try and desert because nothing immediately noticeable was happening. every once in awhile i still find these kinds of energetic conflicts arising and i deal with them as they come.

this is probably the most intense ascended experience i've ever had. i don't know what anyone else will make of this. anyways, i hope someone will respond. perhaps one of you has had a similar experience. thanks for reading!

humbleone

06-30-2010, 08:58 PM

i've been through much of what everyone here seems to have gone through. when i was little i was given a hard time by my sisters and brothers, but it was more than that. i felt alienated, like i didn't belong. i'm not going to go through the details because i feel like i'm just repeating much of what's already been said. what i do feel i've learned in the past two years since i've discovered wynn free's book, "the reincarnation of edgar cayce" and having read the law of one books all the way through is, ok, if i'm a wanderer now what? when i first was told i was a wanderer (i've had 3 or 4 reliable sources tell me i am) i got all excited. i wanted to believe it and it was an ego boost, but what did it mean? i wrote an email to wynn free and he said "the key is not whether you or i are wanderers. the key is to get into the energetic flow of your own manifestation and service." so, i guess i am. still after so much time (1 yr and 9 months) i'm still having a tough time accepting that this is who i am, despite all the things that have happened to me to the contrary. it does explain why people are drawn to me for help and support, advice ect. i realized that this is not about ego. the key being not that your a wanderer, but as wynn said is to get into the energetic flow of your own manifestation and service. after all, we're running out of time.

blessings.........

12thUranus

07-01-2010, 07:08 AM

in light of humbleone post

i pretended i was a wanderer, and even believed. now i determine that was ego and wishful thinking. i spent years before that believing i was a born again christian, but honestly, that was a big pretend game too.

don't get me wrong, i believe each one in this forum for their abilities to tap the metaphysical side of existence.

what i am currently believing is that space/time and time/space exist together, but they can never exist in the other. the sides of a coin can never see the other side. i believe the metaphysical universe is equally curious about physical as we are of them. i think we witness effects of time/space but never see it.

from my perspective, i will no longer strive to live in metaphysical while i clearly exist in physical.

Psion 3-K

07-01-2010, 04:52 PM

previously i described my experience of testing if i was a wanderer. in that i learned that it is pretty certain that even if i'm not a wanderer, i am doing something of high merit for the planet. i put myself greatly in harm's way by shunning this notion and abandoning my abilities when i was in the process of dealing with a crises. what i want to describe next is something i've classified as 'the hell razer'. for anyone who has wondered about the concept of hell in general, i have an experience to relate which you may find rather astounding.

first off let me say that no, hell is not real in the way it is described in modern religion. it does, however, exist on an astral level that humanity has neglected for far too long. in the time i have recognized my psionic ability, i have become more and more familiar with the realm in which thought resides. this realm is where the raw energy of creativity works its power over the universe to make a cocreated experience in line with the overall desires of humanity. of course, this doesn't only govern macro level creation but also things you create on a micro level.

as a wanderer tasked with rebalancing the earth's energy signature, it didn't take long for the energy structure i called the hell razer to show itself. i call it that because its energy signature is razor sharp and destructive and it keeps the concept of hell on a high level in this astral realm. basically this amalgam of energy is the collective belief in hell of mankind. i first experienced this thing about a year ago, at least directly. when i did, what i felt was a totally insane and complex energetic machine created by all those whom believe so steadfastly in hell.

basically i experienced it as a raging and ranting 'voice of god' yelling at me a list of sinful charges that have me damned for eternity. i have to tell you that while i'm rather advanced in my psionic ability, no psychic defenses i have can defend me against this feeling of certainty for long. the amount of 3rd party momentum behind the idea is just too great. of course, this state of mind is temporary and when it fades i'm just as certain yet again that hell does not exist as an afterlife. when i have been in its presence the best i can do is gently guide myself around its energy signature instead of blocking it outright.

the god that yells these charges at me will say the most outlandish things if i don't readily see that my current life has been outright evil. it will try to convince me that in a past life i did something totally outlandish like destroyed an entire universe or something just as off the wall. this is probably a reflection of the lack of logic behind the idea of hell. i imagine that this is the kind of personality the old testament god would have at house parties. i sure as heck wouldn't invite him to mine...

this diabolical energetic machine is ridiculously complex and devastating to our creative astral realm. it is a major thing blocking humanity from seeing its true divinity. usually i tend to begin experiencing this thing at random, as if there is a system in place that is waiting to call me to duty. if ignore it, then i tend to see a lot of problems beginning to arise in my life. call me crazy, but sometimes i feel as if some kind of psionic guide is watching me and waiting for the times when it needs me to perform some task.

the amount of processing time this machination is taking up in a realm we could be using to turn the earth around is ridiculous. the majority of humanity believes in hell whether they actively think of it or not. this subconscious fueling of the hell razer makes my job ten times harder. i feel that whenever i'm working against it that i'm throwing a pebble at a jumbo sized aircraft carrier.

to wrap it all up, i'll say that this is as real as hell gets on a spiritual level, anyways. it isn't an afterlife, but it is indeed a real force that is causing humanity a lot of problems. humanity's disconnection with the energetic principles which govern creation are a core aspect of our current state. in the past several millennium people have been doing the same things and it has never achieved its desired goals. people have to realize that there is a massive realm of existence that it has been missing. that is the only thing that could explain why we, as whole, have not made any major societal progress in all this time.

on a side not, if there is anyone here who has had similar experiences, pm and i'll share with you some useful advice. wilcock had an article about a group of yogis whom meditated in a large group and in turn effectively reduced the amount of chaos on earth for a period of time. this is what i do, except i'm an isolated agent of this system, so to speak... it all has to do with wilcock's unified field of consciousness theory which i've been recognizing more and more as fact than anything else.

11Flyaway11

07-02-2010, 11:42 AM

what i want to describe next is something i've classified as 'the hell razer'. for anyone who has wondered about the concept of hell in general, i have an experience to relate which you may find rather astounding.

this diabolical energetic machine is ridiculously complex and devastating to our creative astral realm. it is a major thing blocking humanity from seeing its true divinity. usually i tend to begin experiencing this thing at random, as if there is a system in place that is waiting to call me to duty. if ignore it, then i tend to see a lot of problems beginning to arise in my life. call me crazy, but sometimes i feel as if some kind of psionic guide is watching me and waiting for the times when it needs me to perform some task.

hi,
ive been to a place viewed in my dreams a few years ago...which ive only heard mention by 2 other people before. so i was wondering if you could say where exactly this was. what i experienced was a place so dark, you could place your hands right in front of your face & still couldnt see it. in one instance, i just looked around searching for a way out. but there was no doors....as if it was in eternal black land with no exits. i remember at the time i started praying....but nothing budged. then i started to question my life & asked for forgiveness...& said "i believe in you!" then i saw a white light coming from the top as it began to open up for me so i could escape.
my uncle is naturally psychic had died a few years ago in a car crash....but the doctors brought him back to life. he experienced many things; parallel universes, hell & heaven at the same time as he described. he said hell was a very pitch dark place, where an angel took him. he said he could see heaven across the land & it was very beautiful. he asked the angel,"why cant these people/beings that are stuck here just walk over to the other side? its right there?" the angel responded, "because the demons use their hands to cover their eyelids so they could never see it."
where would this place be in your experience?
thanks

Psion 3-K

07-02-2010, 01:51 PM

hi,
ive been to a place viewed in my dreams a few years ago...which ive only heard mention by 2 other people before. so i was wondering if you could say where exactly this was. what i experienced was a place so dark, you could place your hands right in front of your face & still couldnt see it.

where would this place be in your experience?
thanks

i appreciate the response and i'll say that the hell i'm talking about is rather specific. according to a spiritual teacher from whom i've read a good deal of texts, there is nothing but heaven. at the end of your life, you go to a place which reflects your current state of mind and you also get to review your entire life. in that instant, you see how every one of your reactions affected the world and the others living in it. you see and feel directly the joys and pains you caused others among other things.

for those whom led a wicked life, like hitler, they probably did indeed go to a place like hell, but this is not eternal. as human beings we are trying to serve others so that at a grand moment of reunion, we can see the awesome things we created. the wicked experience a state of existence that a set of guides helps them work through. eventually they return to a cycle of trying to experience their divinity. there is no eternal pit of flame where anyone has ever gone to; this is a creation of greedy, totalitarian spirituality and the source of a lot of strife. i believe that there are lower vibrational entities which will try to make you believe this if you are still living and have an unintended oobe.

the hell in my first post is the belief in hell itself that exists on our astral thought level. as a wanderer i have experienced this hell in an attempt to rebalance its energy signature and lessen its grip over people. it's a nasty thing which consists of an extremely unstable god, a manifestation of religion's illusory concept of god, yelling at you a list of sinful charges and reasons why he hates you and is going to burn you for eternity. in its most powerful form, i've also seen the archetypal apocalyptic vision of everything going wack crazy; dragons coming out of the sky to eat the sultry maiden, stars crashing into the earth, and the oceans boiling away... that's a reflection of the blatant misinterpretation/use of metaphor when people came up with the concept of hell.

the wicked will experience a hellish state of existence when they cross over, but it will not be permanent. the only reason they will see this is because they will finally be forced to come face to face with the fact that all is one and by harming others, they harmed themselves very badly. they are still divine beings regardless of their actions. the hell i speak of exists as an energy block against our evolution, not really as a place in the afterlife. in terms of describing the way it feels, it is characterized by near total instability and masses of people being ruled by it. that god, from the wanderer's perspective, is actually not real at all. it's part of its creators grand misunderstanding of the beyond and would disappear in a fraction of an instant the second they decided to let it go. it wouldn't even be able to resist.

fundamentalist afterlife hell simply cannot exist and is based off of an established theology of separation. if it did exist, it would mean there is a god whom fashioned us out of a totally foreign energy source. despite how much this god says he loved us, in reality we would be nothing more than a game to him. since he lets certain people burn unimaginably for eternity, the people whom he says he loves are as well just his sources entertainment. furthermore, a ruthless god whom has to threaten to use force to make us obey is also one thing that should be obvious to any awakened perspective. he is just a reflection of the martial mentality of the men whom wish to control others. their physical actions all revolve around violence and fear and thus so does their 'spirituality'.

this is what i know. i hope this answers your question!

12thUranus

07-02-2010, 04:17 PM

humbleone

07-05-2010, 04:13 PM

want to chime in. hopefully before psion responds.

i have some weird thing where i pass out and seize with the smell/flow of blood. it's happened more times than i have fingers, each with it's own experience.

twice, i've entered a "staging zone" where there is a massive amount of "people". the interesting part is how each thought of each person is clearly heard. it's frustrating really. when we hear a crowd in physical world it's a mesh of sound like "chhhchhhchhh". in this place, i can hear each thought clearly and concisely - multiplied a thousand times.

anyway, i've read ndes that have confirmed such a place. i've never experienced "the light" or "warm feelings of love" or "hell fire demons". as a child, my episodes were pure blackness. only after seeking spirituality did i experience the "waiting in limbo masses".

that's my two cents.

that's amazing12thurnanus. i myself have had several experiences, but only after seeking myself. i've heard the voices after meditation. it's happened to me twice. they sound like a crowd. after beginning to read "the reincarnation of edgar cayce" by wynn free and david wilcock upon awakening from a nap while i was still in that stage of just becoming conscious, i heard "now, now". seemed as if that voice was not alone, as if there were other very low voices in the back ground. i later woke up one night some time after beginning the book ( i can't remember now) by someone or something trying to lift me up out of my bed by my left leg and the thigh and hip. i heard something like "it's time to go", and i said "i'm not going anywhere with you, let me go." and they did. it stopped instantly. i later came to learn is was possible said entity (whatever or whoever is was) was trying to scare me. keep me from reading on. perhaps your hearing a group soul like ra. i don't hear individual voices like you do. do you remember what they were saying? have you tried to learn more about this connection? pm me if you'd like to possibly find out more about the voices. who they are ect.

blessings......

Fortyball

07-06-2010, 11:56 AM

in reference to a quote by wynn free earlier: 'get into the energetic flow of your own manifestation and service'...

how?

Psion 3-K

07-06-2010, 01:32 PM

in reference to a quote by wynn free earlier: 'get into the energetic flow of your own manifestation and service'...

how?

i can't answer that in terms of the original quote but maybe i can elaborate anyways...

every single thing you manifest in your life requires the release of creative energy to bring it forth. when you have achieved a state of harmony in your life, you will begin to see how each event flows into the next and how that new event sets up future circumstances for success. when i say you must achieve a state of harmony, i don't mean this in any advanced sense. all you must do is learn how your energetic attraction system works and then you will become aware of the flow of energy in your life.

don't just pray at night; dedicate specific actions meant to saturate that prayer with the creative force and bring it into existence. one of my first posts here on dc was about this being the biggest folly of man in achieving peace. religion does not teach you how to use the law of attraction to get what you want; it only tells you to say empty words at a god to appease him and hope that he gives you what you desire. you are a spark of god amongst many others. all of these sparks are equal in their ability to attract the lives they desire, so you just have to have faith in your own ability to create.

i personally manipulate creative energy directly with the help of my psionic ability. at this level, you actually manipulate the energies of your thoughts between your hands, fashioning it into a direct representation of what you desire. i don't just use the standard techniques mentioned all of the loat books. if you choose to delve into this realm, your reality will change drastically and you will have an acute sense of all the energy around you, not just your own. therefore i believe these types of things are best considered with caution. for me it has always been so natural so i've never had much of a problem with it.

as long as you stay dedicated to learning how your thoughts affect the universe, you will get what you desire. thought energy is similar to any other type of physical energy in that once it reaches a certain critical mass, something will occur....

as always, i hope this will help those whom come across it! best of luck to everyone.

InBetweenPlace

07-07-2010, 10:50 AM

@ psion - your thoughts are so complete, thorough, and well thought through, i am completely amazed that you are so young! that you have the grasp you do of these things at this point in your life is so wonderful! :)

i would like to comment on your statement here, from a post you made above, by relating an experience i had.

basically this amalgam of energy is the collective belief in hell of mankind. i first experienced this thing about a year ago, at least directly. when i did, what i felt was a totally insane and complex energetic machine created by all those whom believe so steadfastly in hell.

in january 1995, i had completed a very thorough 7 years of analysis and questioning about christianity vs. what jesus taught, about the nature of god, etc., and decided to stop labeling myself with a religion whose ideas i no longer believed in. this decision caused a backlash that i dealt with for 2 entire months of fighting off the fear of going to hell, even though i didn't believe it existed.

at the time, i realized that it was a thought form, created by all of the people who did believe in hell, and so i knew it wasn't "real" in the normall thought of sense, although just because it was non-physical did not mean there was nothing there. i was also not about to give in. i didn't make my decision lightly, and i knew i was standing in truth. even so, it kept attacking for 2 months, until i was finally able to drive it away. at the time, i didn't have near the tools to deal with such a thing that i have now, and was not very good at psychic shielding, yet. it was most unpleasant. when it finally ended, it was as though the storm clouds cleared off from the sky and the sun came out. totally different.

after that, i reread the new testament again, but only the words and deeds of jesus, and i saw a real person emerge, which convinced me he really existed. i was unsure of what or who he really was, but i felt a connection with him i did not feel before. while i was reading the nt again in this way, i also heard - with my ears, as if spoken out in the room - a tall man reading passages from the nt. just reading, not instructing. the voice was so clear, i actually turned my head to face the direction it came from, as though someone was standing there. he would read only one or two verses at a time, but i would understand them for the first time. i thought i understood them before, but after that experience, i began to wonder just what i understood and what i didn't!

after having had my experience, and now reading about your description, i had to post about it, because i wanted you to know that you are not alone in realizing the truth about this thought form.

it seems that a part of a wanderer becoming aware of who they are and why they are here, they must first shed the control mechanisms that keep the veil in place.

thank you again, for posting your amazing experiences!

jc

Psion 3-K

07-07-2010, 01:27 PM

@ inbetweenplace

i'm surprised that someone has had such a similar experience! everything i went through was rather intense, but the end results were worth it.

i believe that jesus was indeed what he was said to have been. it appears to my senses that he was a fully realized being that was somehow not affected by the energetic environment around him. i'm betting that's why he could perform miracles. knowing that, it's likely that he could have been a collective of souls which came directly from the 7th density with as little of a blank slate as possible. he probably came to earth to give people an example of the pinnacle of evolution the human soul can achieve, but the message was way misunderstood by the people around him. and many, many others, of course.

the people on these forums are trying raise the energy of the earth so that we can be similar to jesus in ability. some here may not even realize it, but if you are opening up, it's a good thing for the entire planet. you don't have to be a part of the collective illusion of mankind and looking at the world from a freed perspective is rather disturbing in some regards. i'll tell you one thing i've seen on multiple occasions and just why everyone here is so fortunate.

i'm sure a lot of people here are familiar with the whole reverend wright 'god damn america' speech that gave obama a lot of trouble. what i saw as he gave his whole speech from a video on youtube is pretty scary. whenever i saw the 5-10 second clip of him raising his hands and saying those famous lines alone, i thought it was pretty silly. you know, it was just this nut case acting a fool. in fact, i laughed at it several times but as soon as i saw the entire hate speech he gave, i wasn't laughing anymore. not one bit because by that point i saw a microcosm of hitler germany in action.

the energetic state i saw in that video was literally like 'night of the living dead'. these people were dancing around with the 'love of god' in their hearts as they cheered on a man who was instructing them to hate certain people. their expressions were of joy and happiness but their auras showed their divine sparks totally clouded by all the hate they were feeding off of and encouraging. it was scary to watch, really, because this type of thing is very common.

it was never too hard for me to get away from the notion of hell. i stopped it from developing in me when i was around 8 years old. at that time i was already seeing through its entropy and was beginning to set up a lot of the framework for what i am now. for those whom are still struggling with 'hell', you must keep your intent of getting away from it very clear in your mind. you're basically working your way out of a system which is powered by a massive number of people all around you.

when you succeed in breaking free, and you will, you will have weakened this monster just a bit more, making it easier for others to do the same.... eventually we will have the planet of our dreams, but there is a lot of work to be done. i mean seriously. it's a hefty load...

Foghorn

07-09-2010, 06:35 PM

please expand on this.....
and - what are the loat books?

i personally manipulate creative energy directly with the help of my psionic ability. at this level, you actually manipulate the energies of your thoughts between your hands, fashioning it into a direct representation of what you desire. i don't just use the standard techniques mentioned all of the loat books. if you choose to delve into this realm, your reality will change drastically and you will have an acute sense of all the energy around you, not just your own.

Psion 3-K

07-09-2010, 10:13 PM

please expand on this.....
and - what are the loat books?

there are a few different loat books you may want to check out but you'll have to pm me for some of the titles. one of them was mentioned here on the sight as part of an article by wilcock, so i can tell you that one. it's called 'the secret' by rhonda byrne but you should be weary to note that wilcock found a very fatal flaw in the way it was presented. this book tends to make the ego out to be the higher self, which is utterly false.

if you can take that material just for the way it teaches how to utilize the loat, then it should be a good source of information. just don't get caught up in the flare it seems to present in promoting what appears to be a very egotistic view of the universe. the book mentions a lot about love and everything, but it also promotes mostly service to oneself, which is the biggest fault wilcock found in it. as for my psionic specific techniques, it may be difficult for you to manage because for me, it is directly woven into my entire purpose here on this planet.

i don't know if this is a universal ability. some may have an affinity for it while others have unique abilities equivalent to mine. my psionic ability covers a whole suite of techniques meant mainly as tools for me to raise the energetic awareness of the earth. ra mentions the ability of wanderers to double planetary light and and awareness and i find myself mostly, like 90 percent of the time, dedicating my power directly to the energetic aura of the earth. that 10 percent i spend on myself is plenty to keep my manifestations steady, though. i also use my psionics regularly to deal with unwanted emotions and bad vibes i come across randomly but my actual, focused tasks usually center around the earth as a whole.

if you'd like to explore psionics, i also have to warn you that i probably do not practice mainstream psionics as it is known in the very few circles it is. i came across the full potential of my power when i was dealing with a large number of spiritual crises that seemed to encompass more than just myself. i'd always been aware of this talent but up to a point, i never took it seriously. when i began to get into my work as a wanderer, it became absolutely essential to just about all that i do...

okay, so i didn't say all of that to discourage you from pursuing this, i'm just trying to say that i believe my brand of psionics is very unique to a specific job. i will get you pointed and attuned to the possibility that you may have this ability as well, though. the fact that you asked says something important...

the first rule of psionics as i discovered it is that you do not have to be fully focused and totally centered to begin this study. in fact, if you open up to it just a bit and let the energy come to you, it will become obvious what you can do with it. what you need to do is focus lightly on the idea of psionics and keep it on the surface or just below the surface of your mind for a full day. if this power is for you and is in line with your higher self, you'll get the first sensation of psionics. for me it is an energy wave that flows all throughout my body. as you focus on it you will be able to concentrate it into specific places, like between your cupped hands.

as you do this, the sensation of energy between your hands will increase. basically that first flow of energy you feel will be your basic chi, or life force. when you focus it between your hands, it will transform into creative psionic energy. this energy is not vital to sustaining you but is instead the raw stuff that makes up creative thought. now as this force becomes more potent and you begin to advance, it will feel like a warm ball of light or sometimes you'll get a sense of suction between your hands. this is one of the most distinct signs and you will know it when you feel it.

when you feel like you have collected enough blank energy, you'll want to give it a purpose. for a beginner i'd recommend telling it to open up a more direct line to your higher self. since you have the energy for this action right in your hands, results will come about faster than if you took weeks of meditation to accomplish it.

this information should help you start discovering whether or not psionics will work for you. but like i said, the thing i do is probably not 'pure' psionics so you may end up discovering something entirely different. i am by no means an expert on 'traditional psionics' and have in fact never even studied much about it. everything i know has come to me as a result of life circumstances which dictated the need for this tool.

i hope this will point you in the right direction! it would be an awesome thing if more wanderers became aware of their specific wanderer abilities... thanks for the inquiry, by the way.

jasperhaze

07-11-2010, 07:14 AM

i have come to the belief that i'm not from here.i have always felt a little "alienated".not understanding the philosphies, teachings, religions, etc., seems to be a big disconnect. things don't work properly ( or maybe they do ?).the lies.a world that is upside down and my desire to see it right side up. i work to keep myself above the madness ( meditate), not an easy task.
for a quiet person, i speak out more. i have always spoke my mind/soul, but never preachy ( some friends would disagree:o). i do offer opinion when asked. not many people ask.lol, i don't mind , i feel comfortable in my skin and accept, i am different.
but finding this place is a god send!
peace.:)

themaskcabana

07-26-2010, 01:29 PM

this is my very first post : )

off-topic:
so i suppose a slight off-topic sentence, before i get to the point. i have to say that i am intrigued by david. the one thing that most spiritual presentations tend to lack is the scientific explanation, and the simple fact that he references study after study astounds me and has on some level made me a believer. i am not sure that i agree with everything he says or know that 2012 is the day of reckoning so to speak, but he has definitely turned me on to the idea that all of this could be true and so like any responsible individual i will be doing my “research.” he is an amazing speaker and does a hell of a job presenting the data. i think i’ve decided to sit in on one of his 16hour presentations. i sat through the 4 hour presentation, and i don’t think i blinked one time..lol : )

on-topic:
ok, to the point at hand. i truly have no idea whether or not i’m a “wanderer”, but like most of you i have had some weird experiences in my life that don’t add up. for example, i had a experience, not my only experience. i have had many, but this one sticks out in my mind right now.

experience:
i was upset and i had just got into a big fight with my step parents (parents died when i was young), and i was sitting outside our apartment complex in the parking lot. i think i was about 15 when it happened. about 100 ft away from me was a cat that was just sitting there in the middle of the road (inside the apartment complex), and i don’t know why i thought this, but all of sudden i had an urge to see if i could mentally get as many cats as i could to show up in the exact same area. so i started to concentrate and within the first five minutes another cat showed up, and i thought to myself “no way, must have been a coincidence.” so i started to concentrate again and another five minutes rolled by and another cat showed up, and i thought “holy crap, this is not happening.” so i did it again, well this must have went on for 25 minutes and at the end of all this, i had five or six cats in the middle of the street just walking around. i couldn’t believe it. they just started showing up. i felt like i could have done it for another 25 minutes if i wanted to, but at this point, i was sort of tripped out and decided to go inside.

i have had a lot of experiences that fringe on being weird and just really scared the hell out of me. i sort of decided mentally and verbally, that i was done with it and they haven’t happened since. well, now i’m 34 and i really want to engage that side of me, but it seems so difficult. it’s not nearly as easy as it was when i was younger. it just happened to me, and i couldn’t seem to get it under control so i got freaked out and decided it was enough.

so that’s my little story and my very first post. does this mean i’m a wanderer? i don't know...

r

taeko

08-18-2010, 08:00 AM

i know that this is my 4th universe or in other words before our galaxy excisted i was a 12 density being and that was my 3rd universe in were i excisted and experience this density ride all over agian. a star wanted to experience itself, i, my friends and a group of other souls that are now know as the human souls wanted to experience this density ride all over agian because it was so much fun. we joined the star and left our universe to go to the great emptiness. the star divided itself by an great explotion and after many years we excist.

atleast that is what my higher self told me. i don't understand everyting it said. it also told me that way back long time ago i was visited by e.t.'s. they said to me that future went wrong and we need your help because you have done this many times. i made an agreement and died. i splited my soul many times so that i can be most of the e.t. races and most of the experience you can get at the same time. in order to help the higest i had to be the lowest. i don't have karma since this positive-negative was all a part of my agenda. actualy i don't believe in karma but at same level of understanding if you bring your higherself with it. it makes sense but only in a sense that your higherself made agreements with his ''lower self'' or els it forgets it's agenda considering earth. it in general has nothing to do with the universe. loo explains it better. in this life i'm whole again. all the seperated parts of me are togheter agian. so it's a kinda like a vacation to me if i have to compare it to my previous lifes.

if i'm a wanderer....i don't know. maybe when i'm a bit older i will know, now i think í'm too young.

OnePageLife

08-18-2010, 01:29 PM

greetings, dear friends! i am amazed that we all are so similar to each other, having almost identical experiences and feelings. all my life i felt that i was strange, not able to blend perfectly with the rest. i use to have trouble socialising, even with the people close to me. i couldn't find right words to make a good conversation. i still have this problem to some degee. i guess that is why i like solitude, being just me with my thoughts. strange thing is that i equally like the pleasure of a company.i just need to have a person next to me, a friend or familly. i guess this is a way of balancing my mental state.
at the age of 12 i had the thought that we all are here with a purpose, and that i have as many reincarnations, as the leafs of the huge tree infront of our house. thousands upon thousands of leafs. i was certain that im here, on this world to learn, to gain experience for my future lifes, and that i need to perfect myself in order to achieve some unknown goal. i was so young and yet i made my own view of the world that surrounded me. it was then, when i made a choise to be a good person, never to do evil deeds, because i thought there will be concequences in the afterlife if im evil. ofcourse i did inappropriate and crazy things as a kid, but i dont blame myself. :)
now i see the world with a little more experienced eyes. i see the world changes faster and faster to some uncertain future. i see the sorrow and the joy of the people passing me by every day, each of them unique in his own way, having their own agendas to take care of. their faces and eyes are telling me stories of their past and present. i can almost sense what they are thinking, or either they are good persons or bad. well it is just a feeling, but the case with my familly and closest friends, my intuition is serving me well. i make quite accurate predictions of what they going to say, where they are, if im not in touch with them, or what they are currently doing. as if i am telepathically connected with them. i guess as time passes a strong and deep mental bond is made to the person which is close to you.
well friends, i am not sure if i am a wanderer. i can't know this, but still, i always felt deep inside me, that there is something strange about me. if someone have opinion on this, please do share it. :)

i wish you all love and harmony.

Natho

08-24-2010, 10:11 PM

hello peoples :)

like many of you i have also felt that i cannot get a foothold in this human exsistance. so much conformity and ideals that simply do not interest me and i have always longed for something more meaninful. many times i have tried to blend with others and their ways of life in order to give my own some sort of purpose here. i have friends, those i have grown up with, a younger generation. many times i have been told "you are different from the others, i have never met anyone like you, that thinks like you". this was never in a negative manner, more or less it was approached with curiousity and this alone gave me a feeling of purpose here. naturally, i do not open up too much with my close friends as they would not understand my perspective of the world, they seem comfortable in what they do so i see them through and help where i can. at times it would bother me and i would ponder as to why i feel this difference of conciesness, but the feeling it gives me outweights whatever faults i may feel i have.

to find you all here now, expressing these feelings of self dissplacement to society gives me a positive outllook and grants me joy. accepting spirituallity, re-approaching what i thought i knew of the teachings of this world and searching knowledge for myself which led me to david's video's and more, was the best thing that ever happened to me.

i feel i am a wanderer. ive gained not 1 proffesion in my life thus far, but many that do not relate to eachother. i am not content with a straight path, i feel i must take many and broaden my experience's. i do not need to find myself, for i am right here and always have been. no longer do i feel out of place now that i know there are many others like myself wandering this exsistance and for that, i thank you all.

peace :)

gregm

09-01-2010, 04:54 AM

l couldn't care if im a wanderer or not, or what planet im from ,at the end of the day l will help man kind as much as can, to get through 3rd to 4th density, we all have big days ahead of us , how blessed are we to be in this time space love and light to all.

Xevan

09-01-2010, 11:36 AM

hello everybody ;)

just as the op, i just joined this forum. i can't say if i'm a wanderer or not, nor that it's 'all true' for that matter. however alot that david talks about is about the exact same topics/events i have been through in my life. my fascination for the immense universe, why i meditate, why i'm attracted to the buddha style of self-search etc. etc. and just like him i have been reading alot of books about those topics, and have so many questions in my head that i want to explore.

on many occasion, like when i see the wars going on in the middle east, the injustice to people, the absolute greed from bankers and such, the powerlust from politicians, the misuse of power in general, the indifference of people, i get the feeling i'm really on the wrong planet. however when i look at my friends and the people around me, i somehow have the feeling i'm at the exact right place, at the exact right time.

do i 'need' to be a wanderer for all this? i don't think that it matters to be honest. in general what holds me abit back to post on forums like this is that all to soon i read about people being reincarnations of alexander the great, are coming from another planet or what not.

it's like people somehow have the 'need' to be more special. and that actually contradicts all those claims. if we trully reincarnate then there is a reason why we don't get to know everything about our past. it distracts from the job at hand. for that matter if everybody is special, then nobody is.

just for once be just you, and get the most out of yourself as you are at this point, right now in this life. well just my 2 cents :)

peace and sorry for my spelling errors, english isn't my main language

scottki

10-25-2010, 04:19 AM

i would just like to add at the beginning that i do not think i am a wanderer. i have to work far too hard attempting sto and the ego is very difficult to tame! that said, i am interested in what your average wanderer is like. ra said that wanderers often feel the difference in vibration from their home vibration and therefore become ill. this happened to me where at 26 i developed a chronic condition so i am interested in the possibility. incidentally i went to see the trance medium 'john of god' in abadania brazil and i definitely got the impression the channelled entities were amused to see me there - but probably just my ego seeing that! anyway, i am convinced that my 'nerves will be the death of me' and that my worrying and fear are a lot to do with the illness - is that what ra meant? are wanderers just too sensitive and simply not thick skinned enough for this vibration? the other thing i have noticed is that i act like telepathy is already complete and like to share everything i think! that often causes me grief - imagined or otherwise! the other thing i notice is that if i am mean at all i feel very guilty about it and that of course more than likely is not good for health . * the good thing about this of course is that it is a good lesson (avoiding guilt) in becoming more sto!

*i think that karma, which could be another reason for illness, works by the mechanism of guilt. ra said karma is chosen and i think that is the same thing as guilt - if one does not feel guilty then they obviously do not feel the need to repay any debt! obviously the more guilt felt the more desire to develop more positively and the fastest way is to pay the karmic debt.

12thUranus

10-25-2010, 10:34 AM

i don't have an exact answer.

your experiences are very heartening to read, scottki.
they sound very much descriptive of wanderer type experiences. you are witnessing your own life, and this is very progressive.

some of your feelings could be encouraging you to focus more on your reasons for being here. your sensitivities could very much be, as you said, teaching you a good lesson.

sounds to me, whether you define yourself as "typical" or not, you are on a positive track of helping all of us.

scottki

10-26-2010, 10:16 PM

thanks 12th. reading the loo was by far the most enlightening experience of my life. the funny thing is that i can not get anyone else to read it!

12thUranus

10-28-2010, 05:29 AM

me neither. i don't think its what we are supposed to do with it. we shouldn't expect others to experience life from our own perspective. isn't it beautiful the way we come to find enlightenment on our own unique path? just be :)

love and blessings

scottki

10-29-2010, 03:37 AM

yeah i think ra said to disspationately tell people about the loo and i guess that part, god is everything and everything is god, people can grasp. ironically though i think some are put off by the 'infinite creator' bit and others just struggle with the bigfoot and orion group stuff. for me it answered all my questions and made me accept a supreme being, which the budhist theology for example do not talk about. because that belief is new to me, i never knew who to pray to before and then i had a 'duh' moment when i realised that, if i am at my core the creator, then of course it can tune in! i am still not sure whether the creator is purely an observer or whether it will answer prayers though. my gut feeling is that the higher self is there to direct and the creator might just answer because to 'know yourself', or develop polarity, you have to be able to get what you want right? and the difficult thing, that people do not realize, is not getting what we want, but choosing what we want! i suppose saying that god answers is exactly the same as saying that the universe is set up to give what you want!

Detlef

10-29-2010, 04:43 PM

am i a typical wanderer? i don't know. but i am certain a wanderer.
i am her for the first time, and of what i know from those around me, (these are the one bringing about what we try to achieve during the time of shift) we are giving this service through out the verse for eons
being of service is still the most effective way to progress. and after all, this is the intent of every being through out the verses.
for the first 40 years of my life i lived in oblivion.
my greatest tool in my life always was and still is my intuition. i follow it not blindly but i follow it without thinking.
as long as i do what i came to do i am provided for, not more and not less.
i have to work, yes, i work in gardens, but always have work, always enough, never have to worry, as i don't worry anyway.
what i am here to do?
i only know as much as i need to know at this point in time.
i know i work with energies, i have trained for it over the last 10 years.
and i know it will be for the time of the rupture. (i know the word rupture is a little controversial, yet my people call the final brake trough from 3d to 4d a rupture)
going from 3d to 4d without shutting everything down as we are doing it this time, is no mean feat. and i know we all can be proud of it when it is done. if we allow ourselves some pride for a little moment.

ltpg97

11-15-2010, 02:33 PM

hi everyone! well after taking david's quiz i'm pretty sure that i'm a wanderer. i'm just not sure where i'm originally from. a lot of the quiz really moved me when i started answering "yes" to the question or feeling really strongly about it.

whenever i look at the magnificent photos of our galaxy taken by the hubble telescope i wonder from where out there i originate.

TA KA 11175

11-28-2011, 02:46 PM

who here knows they are a " wonderer " and what events led them to that rememberance?, if so, what is your purpose here, do you have a incarnate contract????

TA KA 11175

11-29-2011, 11:40 AM

good day , to all those awake and awakening from the veil , iam tony in this incaration and ta ka as spirit. i am so greatful ive found my brothers and sisters and everyone etween. i am of the pleiades or the sevensisters

Asa

11-29-2011, 05:57 PM

welcome ta ka,

i am pleased to bump into someone hailing from the pleiades, a fine group of solar rings and sisters all to this solar ring. as for your prior question concerning an incarnation contract, it is my impression that all who enter here must have an incarnation contract even the darksiders. incarnation contracts, i would think, would varying as widely as contracts found here in the physical realm. just think how many types of contracts exist here between various entities, such would appear to me as should be the case with incarnation contracts.

it would seem that wanderers would be required to have just as complex a contract as a non-wanderer, i would think. imo a wanderer prior to entering into an approved incarnation would have to have created a general outline for the incarnation, including details about what family, who would be part of the incarnation from a spirit/soul perspective, what it was that the wanderer had agreed to try to accomplish as their primary goal along with what other challenges and lessons that would come their way.

simply conjecture perhaps.

asa