Nassim Haramein - The Resonance Project

[LightEye]

dear friends,

interesting interview with nassim...

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2008/06jun/ricr-080615-nharamein.mp3

i've posted his videos here;

http://www.divinecosmos.com/forums/showthread.php?p=35128&highlight=haramein#post35128

[moderator: this link has been restored 11/5/08]

be well, be love.

david

nassim haramein - the resonance project
june 15, 2008

researcher nassim haramein from "the resonance project" joins us to discuss his foundation, his theory on the holofractographic universe, the grand unified field theory, the power of spin and his dvd crossing the event horizon. topics discussed: what is the resonance project? einstein's field equation, geometry, fractal systems, the structure of vacuum, cycle rate of the universe, quantum mechanics, entropy & centropy, free energy, the holographic universe, the role of consciousness, mankind as a result of the universe, the origin of spin and much more. we continue talking more with nassim in our members section about the holofractal theory and that you are the center of the universe, that the universe is expanding and contracting at the same time, what is gravity, particle physics, cern, infinity and scale. don't miss this fascinating continuation with nassim.

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

hi lighteye,

this link does not work for me for some reason.....sylvain.....

http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.ph...per&itemid=108

[LightEye]

hi silvanus,

if you go to page 9 of general discussions you'll be able to access the video links i refered to.

be well.

david

[SpiralCycle]

i was actually going to make a post about this guy and his dvd is great and probably the best in physics and such that i have seen in a presentation period. he is definitely well rounded and very intuitive mentioning many positive life style habits along with his work. thanks for showing his work i suggest anyone to go and buy his dvds they are very detailed and lengthy me and a few friends in this area watched them together and never really kept our eyes off the screen.

[LightEye]

dear friends,

if you have 8 hours of free time you can enjoy nassim here. lots of interesting info here;

part i
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6151699791256390335&q=nassim+haramein+at+rogue+valley+metaphysical+lib rary&ei=l8hrsmcji4x2iqkf2ncidw

part ii
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1895475242307393956&q=source:004764722344893170701&hl=en

be well, be love.

david

[meganarline]

i have watched the first 2 1/2 hours so far and i would highly recommend it! it is extremely interesting, he explains everything in such a way that i "get it" and he's quite funny as well.

i will definitely try to watch the rest over the next few days.

why didn't i have someone like him teaching me physics!

take care,

megan

[Metamike]

i have now finished the 8 hrs of film on google video. nassim haramein has got to be a wanderer bringing lost knowledge to those willing to listen. he is bring in tons of confirmation of ra and david's work, among others that are doing the same. great post - light eye!!! thank you muchly.
metamike from norway

[meganarline]

i have now finished watching the full 8 hours. i think i am going to need a bigger head!

i highly recommend it.

megan

[larissa]

well, i've finished 4 hours of the 8, and have set aside the next 4 for when i think i can take it, so much information, so clearly explained, another teacher i love. there are no words. all those concepts i knew the words to but never understood. i guess i better get round to the redice interview. who is this guy?

[cheena]

yes this confirms everything that i have experienced!

[mellisamouse]

this is amaizing info, i found it by accident and was going to post it as well, but saw it was already here..... so many things i already thought....even as a child especially...definatly how i saw/see things. :)

[Born23EB]

i had never been exposed to anything from nassim previously and never heard his name mentioned anywhere in my research. he has obviously done his homework before going public. he also stayed true to his intuitive guidance inspite of great resistance of his peer review group in physics. there where all kinds of eureka moments going off while he demonstrated a very systematic way of taking everyone through his presentation. i found it well worth the time invested so far in the eight hour video. i also think there is a great lesson here in staying true to oneself in the path of discovery.

[canaan]

this is hands down the best information on this site.

[Jasper]

i have recently purchased and viewed nassim's 4 x dvd set, 'crossing the event horizon'. it's awesome stuff, and put across in laymans terms. there are also some very nice graphics...put it on your birthday wishlist.

[Jasper]

at certain points during nassim's presentation i burst out in spontaneous applause. this guy is good. i've just started watching it again, i don't think i'll ever get bored with it, but perhaps the applause won't be as before. there are sub-standard efforts on youtube, but they don't come close to this professional production.

[voyagefortruth]

this video offers more proof of 2012 consciousness shift.

this ties it all together nicely!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5ms0xcraeo&feature=related

[voyagefortruth]

this video is part 2 of the previous one and includes effect on our consciousness!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl06f3m6ame&feature=related

[AmelieJolie]

i've listened to the first hour of his lecture, but another 7 hours is a long time, lol. :p

how did you folks find the information? did it transform you?

i might go and listen to the rest of it, if it is something that could help with healing.

[ayadew]

this is hands down the best information on this site.

well, among the best. but those 8 hours changed my view of things.

[AmelieJolie]

that was the most fascinating thing i have ever seen!!!!

it excited and amazed me....freaked me out a bit too! :)

wow! i am so hungry for more knowledge.

this is something i recommend everybody to watch. it gets better and better as the lecture goes on....might take a while to watch but just watch it in parts and give it your focus- i promise you won't regret it!

this man is a genius...he has much to offer our world....and we all do....he says we all have our own calling.

after watching this, i am feeling that everything is coming together more. it has convinced me more of the authenticity of david wilcock's own message about 2012.

did anybody else feel agog when he talked about the ark and the covenant and the cloud?

where have we heard that before?

in the law of one, i remember reading a question in regards to the god of the old testament, the cruel and destructive god it describes. if i remember rightly, ra replied that this was an "impostor", service to self/ power over others et group.....which appeared in a type of cloud.

was the ark of the covenant a communication device that could contact various beings in other worlds?

[astraya]

phew, i finally made it through. and it's an excellent compilation of information with some cutting-edge concepts. when you see fragmented information about sacred geometry, fractals, sun-flares, crop circles, the solar system, black-holes, torsion fields, egypt etc. it can be difficult to put it all together so if you have the time, it's worth it! and i have a special place in my heart for the french-canadian accent.

but, i'm still puzzled how consciousness comes in. is it intrinsically a part of every fractal or is it picked up by every size of fractal...equally the atom and the sun? or at some nexus point does consciousness kick in? or are we the only fractal size that experiences consciousness?

any ideas?

and i can't stop thinking of the song "black hole sun" by soundgarden

[odiseo]

indeed he has done great work. all this info is like a huge jigsaw , once you start receiving info need to put the pieces all together. if you combine this research with david's and hoagland's works the big picture will be very clear.

[AmelieJolie]

phew, i finally made it through. and it's an excellent compilation of information with some cutting-edge concepts. when you see fragmented information about sacred geometry, fractals, sun-flares, crop circles, the solar system, black-holes, torsion fields, egypt etc. it can be difficult to put it all together so if you have the time, it's worth it! and i have a special place in my heart for the french-canadian accent.
it's strange....i had an ex boyfriend (called christian, funnily enough) who looked a lot like nassim when he smiled....i noticed nassim was born in geneva where my ex was born....and he spent part of his childhood in canada...his accent was canadian-german though....although was also part french genetically. :d
(i know i'm rambling, but i thought that was a bit of synchronicity....someone who reminds me of an ex called christian...decoding some of the mysteries of christ and the christians). :d


but, i'm still puzzled how consciousness comes in. is it intrinsically a part of every fractal or is it picked up by every size of fractal...equally the atom and the sun? or at some nexus point does consciousness kick in? or are we the only fractal size that experiences consciousness?

any ideas?

and i can't stop thinking of the song "black hole sun" by soundgarden

i don't know about your question....all i can say is i can't wait to get his dvd when i can afford it.....maybe consciousness is the foundation of all life- as the mystics of the vedic tradition have said for so long?

i'm listening to that soundgarden song, haven't heard it in a while, thanks for helping me to remember it. :d

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

but, i'm still puzzled how consciousness comes in. is it intrinsically a part of every fractal or is it picked up by every size of fractal...equally the atom and the sun? or at some nexus point does consciousness kick in? or are we the only fractal size that experiences consciousness?

any ideas?

hi astraya,

i'd say that there are infinite levels (boundaries) of consciousness, each having a fractal relationship with one another. the blueprint, master plan, pattern or divine order of creation ect.... is transmitted from the source to infinity through a process we call consciousness. meaning, from my perspective, that every single thing, emotion or creative thought is an observable perception stemming from the one on some conscious level.

nassim helps us understand that consciousness is linked on all levels by sacred geometric patterns of energy and that this pattern is at the root of creation. the pattern is mirrored and adaptive from level to level, hence the fractal or holographic nature of the known multiverse. in this context consciousness can be described as the primal mode of comunication from self to self, a way to sort of report in on ventures of individual explorations....sylvain....

[KassandraLoves]

and i can't stop thinking of the song "black hole sun" by soundgarden

"black hole sun, wont you come, and wash away the rain..."

hmm...sounds fitting to me :)

[astraya]

nassim helps us understand that consciousness is linked on all levels by sacred geometric patterns of energy and that this pattern is at the root of creation. the pattern is mirrored and adaptive from level to level, hence the fractal or holographic nature of the known multiverse. in this context consciousness can be described as the primal mode of comunication from self to self, a way to sort of report in on ventures of individual explorations....sylvain....

hi sylvain,

the unanswered paradox for me is the resolution of the holographic nature of the universe & levels. because doesn't holography imply that everything is contained in each level including consciousness or the ability to communicate to the collective consciousness? but it seems that the atom does its communicating with the cc far differently than we do...how is that explained?

and which are the selves in the "communication from self to self", the higher to lower? are they on totally different fractal systems?...that would change at 4d, 5d, 6d etc.

also, regarding extra-terrestrials, essentially they are on the same fractal level as we are if they are in the physical/3d. they are good and bad just like the earthlings around us maybe a little smarter if they can space travel. but why do we think they are saving us? as implied in nassim haramein's description when the jupiter sized object came into our solar system (in 2003? i wasn't really clear on the date). not incompatable with my theory that the earth is making crop circles herself, why don't we realize that the sun itself is saving us or teaching us or whatever?

the sun gods of ancient times were probably more like sun priests who understood all of this better than we do. and the misunderstanding that a father god in the form of an old man crept in because we cannot conceive of the awesomeness of the consciousness of the sun & the earth (the next two fractal levels up from us). this would be compatible with edgar cayce's ideas about each planet in our solar system having a sort of personality or essence that can imbue a soul before birth. and i'm guessing during life the planet also has an influence when that particular planet is in alignment with aspects in a natal chart.

best,
stacy

p.s. on another note, regarding nassim's french accent, he says "t" or "d" for "th" and can't pronounce his "h" at the beginning of the word. he calls hieroglyphics "eeroglyphics" . germans usually say "z" for "t", "v" for "w" and can pronounce the "h" at the beginning of a word...as in "heil hitler" :rolleyes:

[Roehrborn]

regarding the question about consciousness, i found the work of dr. david r. hawkins very informative.

"there is no greater mystery than this: being reality ourselves, we seek to gain reality." -- ramana maharshi

[KassandraLoves]

im almost done watching the 8 hours...its been good so far! i like this guy! thanks for sharing. i bumped into his video a long time ago and got interrupted when trying to watch so i am glad im getting to watch the whole thing now...

[tigermoff]

i remember ra saying that they came to earth and taught humans the law of one, but then they used this for negativity.

could the sun gods be ra and could the ark have been their gift to us?

[KassandraLoves]

i put this guy on the same plane i put wilcock. hes got a great energy about him. and he isnt sitting there preaching all this doom and gloom stuff either.

in fact, id like for him to follow suit with david and share more of his "esoteric" information as opposed to mainly the science. i mean, dont get me wrong, the science is a very paramount piece of the puzzle. i enjoyed every second of it, but id like to see his full, un-abetted opinions on the rest of it, just as wilcock has done. smoosh it all together a bit more. i think hes seems a little leary of fully sharing it all. i bet hes got some great little nuggets of knowledge that he has yet to scratch the surface on.

i wish nassim had a blog too. id probably read it everyday, lol...

p.s. wouldnt it be cool if david and nassim did some sort of collaboration? id just love love love to hear a recording of a conversation between those two!!!

[peelstreetguy]

i just watched the first four hours. mind blowing!!! this guy is amazing. i have too much brain drain to watch the rest right now. i can't wait to watch the rest tomorrow.

i wish you all health, happiness and spiritual growth, amen.

[Philip Q]

i had a similar reaction (i.e., mind blowing), having watched all c. 8 hours last night and today, but then i took some of the data and personal impressions to the non-duality discussion group i go to c. every two weeks (which i like to refer to as talking for a couple hours about nothing, comma, in particular) and it was apparently too mind blowing for them and they went into various forms of de nile (irrelevant, not what it's all about, etc.). sigh. one can only present the material and hope somebody "gets it." not my (or your) responsibility to attempt to get anyone to "get it" unless they ask for it, which they didn't, really.

funny that he said at the beginning that he was gonna talk fast and then talked so slow that it could have been presented in about half the time if he had decided beforehand what he was gonna say, which he admitted that he didn't, he was just skimming the surface for an overall picture. de tails are not pinned on the donkey in this case, which may be better anyway, because it sort of forces one to think for oneself and correlate his stuff with what one has previously run across, which i did, and it helped to fit the whole jigsaw puzzle together, or at least enough of it that the image(s) became clearer.

peace, philip

[kristinasophia]

years ago i had a spirit guide (non-physical) tell me to draw a dot on a peice of paper. then he said now divide it in half and divide that half in half. he kept me at this until i realized there was no end. as long as you could imagine a dot you can imagine half that dot.
so this was quite mind blowing at the time especially when you consider that there is an infinite amount of these infinities. and here we are walking around in the middle of it all. there is something i like about what nassim says about us existing between the infinitly small and the infinitly large. we are right in the middle. it is like what black elk says. we are always in the center.
kristina

[ayadew]

p.s. wouldnt it be cool if david and nassim did some sort of collaboration? id just love love love to hear a recording of a conversation between those two!!!

hehe, that would be the greatest =)))
i'm about to buy nassim's dvd's, both to support him and because i'm interested

[kristinasophia]

"there is something i like about what nassim says about us existing between the infinitly small and the infinitly large. we are right in the middle. it is like what black elk says. we are always in the center."

this is what i said in my first post here. i hadn't gotten to the end of the first video yet where he talks about us being in the center. so tonight after listening to all of the first 4 hours i am experiencing a reorientation of my consciousness of self in space/time. at least this is what seems to be happening. my consciousness is reorganizing in alignment with truth and an emmense clarity is begining to emerge. my physical body feels a little wobbley. good thing i am going to sleep soon. perhaps it would be good to listen to the next 4 hours in smaller sections to allow this reorientation process more time to stabilize.

[tuesday]

"there is something i like about what nassim says about us existing between the infinitly small and the infinitly large. we are right in the middle. it is like what black elk says. we are always in the center."

this is what i said in my first post here. i hadn't gotten to the end of the first video yet where he talks about us being in the center. so tonight after listening to all of the first 4 hours i am experiencing a reorientation of my consciousness of self in space/time. at least this is what seems to be happening. my consciousness is reorganizing in alignment with truth and an emmense clarity is begining to emerge. my physical body feels a little wobbley. good thing i am going to sleep soon. perhaps it would be good to listen to the next 4 hours in smaller sections to allow this reorientation process more time to stabilize.

three days later i still have a headache right between my eyes...but a little pain is a small price to pay for the experience of these videos! fair warning: the next four hours are just as amazing and wonderful as the last four are. if you can pace yourself, do...but don't be suprised if you find yourself watching it all at once anyway. he's hard to quit!

[peelstreetguy]

just watched the second half...my god this is amazing stuff. when he did that thing with the tree of life...incredible!
thank you lighteye for sharing this.

stacy

[kristinasophia]

three days later i still have a headache right between my eyes...but a little pain is a small price to pay for the experience of these videos! fair warning: the next four hours are just as amazing and wonderful as the last four are. if you can pace yourself, do...but don't be suprised if you find yourself watching it all at once anyway. he's hard to quit!

tuesday..thanks for you input. there is a huge surge of energy that has been released in me. i am flying. late tonight i'll start part 2.

[StarGirl]

"there is something i like about what nassim says about us existing between the infinitly small and the infinitly large. we are right in the middle. it is like what black elk says. we are always in the center."

this is what i said in my first post here. i hadn't gotten to the end of the first video yet where he talks about us being in the center. so tonight after listening to all of the first 4 hours i am experiencing a reorientation of my consciousness of self in space/time. at least this is what seems to be happening. my consciousness is reorganizing in alignment with truth and an emmense clarity is begining to emerge. my physical body feels a little wobbley. good thing i am going to sleep soon. perhaps it would be good to listen to the next 4 hours in smaller sections to allow this reorientation process more time to stabilize.

nice synchronicity for you.

lighteye, thank you so much for this post. that nassim video put the full sanity back in my head, when it was starting to feel a little distorted... thanks, you find such interesting and timely posts! i need to watch more of them.

peace and love

darlyne

[YinYangVincent]

i mostly like women...but i find him a very attractive man, in the way he presents things, speaks and looks :)

\o/

[BJ ∞ Living in the Now]

got the 4-dvd set. great info, beautiful way to approach everything! i highly recommend getting the set or watching all the google videos you can of nassim.

gracias david. :)

bj

[AmelieJolie]

got the 4-dvd set. great info, beautiful way to approach everything! i highly recommend getting the set or watching all the google videos you can of nassim.

gracias david. :)

bj

is the dvd set a collection of his lectures, or is the information presented in the sort of style you see on, say, history channel?

[transiten]

wooooooooooow:):):)

nassim just came in the right moment and like kassandra and adayew i immediately saw him and david lecturing together! what a show! when he showed his 64-model i just waited for the connection to i ching and thee it was!

when he mentioned 72 as half of the code i related to the astrological aspect the quintile that form a pentagon in the chart and doubled, a biquintile 144 deg. that would make a tenpointed star with 36 deg. each. so they've got to build the "decagon" now to balance male and female, especially when it turns out that eve was the one who figured out how things really worked:d

liliane the transit

[transiten]

goodmorning!

i 'm not very fmiliar with kabbalah numerics but just read that 10 is an important final number in kabbalah...9+1=10. in numerology all double numbers except for 11,22,33....are reduced by addition, thus 10 become one= singularity.

so combining to pentagons (the pentagon the symbol of man standing with feet on the ground, arms stretched up and out and head pointing to the sky, that's why i don't like the turned-around stars pple have in the windows in "advent" before x-mas..i know it's because the lightbulb has to go down btw two arms of the star, but the result is the symbol for the "devil"= imbalance between spirit and matter=materialism: 2 legs towards the sky and arms and head pointing downwards. i can't understand that pple don't see how heavy and ugly it looks, a perfect symbol though for our "market-god")

...now this stressing the need for male/female balance. combining the reversed pentagram with the "turned right way round" give perfect balance btw spirit and matter, a 10 pointed star with 36 deg. segments.

this makes me wonder about the 36 deg aspect and number...it ought to have some divine meaning....it's 3x12 and 12 divided by 4 is 3, the square and the trine in the 360 deg circle of the chart. two trines make the 6-pointed star of david with 60 deg. each = flow, while two squares make an 8-pointed star made of 45 deg.= resistance.

does "divine" and "divide" have any connection? "diabolein" means "to split" and "symbolein" to unite -it seems a bit illogical that gods number should be "divided" from 72- anyway 5 is the number of creation, hasn't "creation" got out of balance? yes, the recieving "female" aspect is ovrerwhelmed with "creation" and unnessecary things we're manipulated to buy for x-mas, the most spiritual time of year when we should turn inwards to find peace...

anyway as i philosophied in my former post, take "gods" number 72 (half of the code as nassim states) the fivepointed star, symbolizing man (male) striving upwards to heaven, add the reversed pentagram (symbolizing the devil/matter, probably matter comes from mater, the male projection of the devil onto the woman/nature) and you've got the 10-pointed star...a symbol for perfect balance?

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any ideas anyone

[kristinasophia]

but the result is the symbol for the "devil"= imbalance between spirit and matter=materialism: 2 legs towards the sky and arms and head pointing downwards. i can't understand that pple don't see how heavy and ugly it looks, a perfect symbol though for our "market-god")

?

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any ideas anyone

don't you think this "devil" symbolism was popularized to scare people away from the power of this symbol?

[transiten]

hi kristinasophia

yes absolutely, but all the same there's a consensus around symbols in a society so it's like dreamsymbols, it depends on the circumstances around the person or the society what it may symbolize. anyway i think reversed pentagramstars are right down ugly:(

merry christmas to you all whatever it symbolizes to you!

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[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

mods would like to remind everyone to keep the conversations on topic for this particular thread, thank you :).

[Philip Q]

hi sylvain,

**since sylvain may not have answered your questions here (maybe i missed it), i'll attempt a reply (only my own view, of course).

the unanswered paradox for me is the resolution of the holographic nature of the universe & levels. because doesn't holography imply that everything is contained in each level including consciousness or the ability to communicate to the collective consciousness? but it seems that the atom does its communicating with the cc far differently than we do...how is that explained?

**it seems to me that sacred geometry has the solution to that paradox. in that, you start with a dot, or point, of no dimensions. as the dot "expands" (illusorily) into a sphere, or spheres, of other dimensions, everything in the sphere(s) is illusory, because it is the point, or one. thus, all "dimensions", or densities, as the loo prefers to refer to it, come holographically from the original one, or dimensionless point (which remains paradoxical from any other viewpoint (because how can there be [exist]anything [any thing] that has no dimensions), and perhaps even from the viewpoint of the original "point" itself).

and which are the selves in the "communication from self to self", the higher to lower? are they on totally different fractal systems?...that would change at 4d, 5d, 6d etc.

**again, if one thinks in terms of densities rather than "dimensions", the "selves" are illusory, because they originate from the one self, and communication is instantaneous from "self" to "self" because there is no real separation between them. the fractals, imo, would remain the same from density to density, as one can observe in even the mandelbrot set, the set of all fractals (supposedly, although gödel might disagree [or even escher]).

also, regarding extra-terrestrials, essentially they are on the same fractal level as we are if they are in the physical/3d. they are good and bad just like the earthlings around us maybe a little smarter if they can space travel. but why do we think they are saving us? as implied in nassim haramein's description when the jupiter sized object came into our solar system (in 2003? i wasn't really clear on the date). not incompatable with my theory that the earth is making crop circles herself, why don't we realize that the sun itself is saving us or teaching us or whatever?

**i just saw "deep impact", a flick about a huge comet hitting earth. "we" saved ourselves in the flick (oops! ruined the ending, maybe). et's may just have sufficiently superior technology to do such a thing (remember, arthur c. clarke defined magic as any technology beyond the comprehension of those experiencing it. is your tv or computer still largely magical to you? it probably is to most people). i must have been hung up for years over what the term "jesus saves" means (string?). if you've ever been very sick, as the earth probably is at this point (and i was recently), the ability to think clearly goes out the window, so, superbeing or not, the earth (and sun, maybe) may need our help more than we need gaia's, so the overwhelming (to me, at least) evidence that et's are producing the crop circles may trump the earth's resources at this point.

the sun gods of ancient times were probably more like sun priests who understood all of this better than we do. and the misunderstanding that a father god in the form of an old man crept in because we cannot conceive of the awesomeness of the consciousness of the sun & the earth (the next two fractal levels up from us). this would be compatible with edgar cayce's ideas about each planet in our solar system having a sort of personality or essence that can imbue a soul before birth. and i'm guessing during life the planet also has an influence when that particular planet is in alignment with aspects in a natal chart.

**it may have been haramein's presentation where he mentions the twelve phases of sun frequencies that correspond to the putative planetary influences of astrology (remember, even jupiter contains less than 1% of the mass in the solar system, and in this case, size matters, so the alignment of a grain of sand (a planet) is not likely to influence one's individual "fortune" as much as that big light bulb in the sky, but whoever pointed that out finally gave some scientific basis for astrology that might be acceptable even to the hard-nosed reductionists. anyone familiar with bucky fuller's geometric-based devices (like the geodesic dome, for example) can immediately see the stresses between points that are generated by objects, though, another possible validation of astrological theory. it could be equally suggested that one's personality is generated by the stresses encountered during life (particularly in infancy and adolescence).

best,
stacy

**peace, philip

[transiten]

hi moderator silvanus

in a way i think it's related since the reversed pentagram is, for some, a symbol of exaggerated materialism, and i was associating to nassim combining geometric figures to create balance and unification, thus combining two pentagrams to a "decagram", symbolizing perfect balance btw "heaven and earth".

liliane the transit

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

thank you philip:) for answering stacy's queries, your views are appreciated.

and liliane :), the alluring simitry you reffer to is definitely on topic;) thanks for explaining some of the symbolism to readers who might not be so familiar.

sylvain

[astraya]

thanks to sylvain, roehrborn, and philip for weighing in on my questions.

i ended up watching a more recent video of haramein's http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4907540922643918266 which also shed some light on the role humans play.

he says that we are resistors in the feedback of space/time between the information going out and the information coming in. and our job is to reduce the resistance as much as possible. it seems that other levels of the fractal system (atoms as well as planets) do not have this resistance so the information from the universe flows through effortlessly. i think the resistance we experience refers to the emotion of fear that we feel when our ego breaks down and we lose our separateness and become one with the universe.

this fits well with the work of david r. hawkins referenced by roehrborn. this describes one of hawkins' books:
"transcending the levels of consciousness explores the ego's expressions and inherent limitations and gives detailed explanations and instructions on how to transcend them. it expands the understanding of the levels of consciousness as presented in the now widely-known map of consciousness. this book focuses on the individual and studies the experiential subject blocks to the advancement of consciousness that leads to progressive spiritual awareness and on to higher levels of consciousness preparatory to advanced states such as enlightenment itself. by analyzing the various obstacles and levels to be transcended, certain principles that support spiritual evolution are self-revealing. this book is therefore a practical manual rather than a comprehensive analysis."

and the levels are valued like this:
the levels of falsehood (all below 200) are:
shame (20)
guilt (30)
apathy, hatred (50)
grief (75)
fear (100)
desire (125)
anger (150)
pride (175)

the levels of truth are:
courage (200)
neutrality (250)
willingness (310)
acceptance (350)
reason (400)
love (500)
joy (540)
peace (600)
enlightenment (700-1000)
http://www.43things.com/entries/view/2285127

so essentially the levels of falsehood seemed to be tied to the ego and fear. so the more we transcend those (ie: transcend our ego and fears), the more enlightened we will be and flowing with the information feed-back loop that the universe provides.

[astraya]

ultimately, i've been looking to shamanic knowledge for answers to these mystical questions. at some point, i need a metaphor in order to get it because science seems to rely too heavily on "scientific fact" which haramein has illustrated to be not always logical or accurate.

and, shamanic knowledge especially the new shamanism practicing by hank wesselman, michael harner, sandra ingerman et. al. does not include the use of hallucinogens.

here's an excellent article on the similarities between remote viewing & shamanism. http://www.intuitive-connections.net/2006/shamanicremoteviewing.htm
and the conclusion:
"there are many terms that fall under the umbrella of psychic functioning; remote viewing and shamanic journeying are only two of them. edgar cayce claimed that we are all psychic, and, indeed, psychic abilities are considered to be a natural by-product of spiritual development in buddhist and yogic teachings. although the spellings may not be the same, the essence of what is happening is. remote viewing is not a new skill; it is simply a new name for an ancient practice. likewise, the worlds of the shaman do not exist exclusively for him. they are the levels of non-ordinary consciousness that have always existed. they are the worlds at which the psychic and the mystic have and do function. maybe the spiritual aspect of remote viewing is not only the key to its future, but also the key to connecting the modern to the ancient, the scientific to the religious, and the sacred to the profane."

more to the point, here's an excerpt for hank wesselman's book [please pm for title] describing a twin-soul's (one living in the present one living 5,000 in the future) shamanic journey:
"their conscious awareness then began to expand outward once again, and he became aware of a great, dark, circular orb of immense proportions, from whose margins the omnipresent orange-golden light seemed to radiate.

'what is it?' nainoa asked.

'it is our star, the sun, the source of the life force here in our part of the universe,' came the american's response.

'why is it dark?' queried the hawaiian.

the answer arrived immediately. 'i believe it appears dark because of the reversal effect. in ordinary reality, it is blindingly bright, but when i cross the barrier into the spiritual dimensions, everything appears to me in color negative. why this is so, i do not know.'

'you will recall some of the wisdom we received from the dorajuadiok out in the spirit hills,' the american continued.'it was there that we learned that stars posses consciousness - the collective conscious awareness of everything within their solar system. in this same way, our awareness is part of our star's awareness. let us see if we can approach it, but carefully. i have never been this close to it before.'

...on final approach, there was no all-consuming fire, no million-degree heat to incinerate them and convert them into elemental wisps of carbon. the enormous gravity of the great stellar being was most real, however, and they were drawn closer and closer until impact seemed inevitable.
then something totally unexpected occurred. they 'flew' through the surface of the sun, finding themselves immersed within the surroundings that seemed to be composed of moving streams of contrasting lightness and darkness - an etheric, golden pattern flowing in ordered directions. there was also a sound, a ponderous vibrational tone not unlike the tolling of some monumental bell or gong. they simply rested there, within the sun's shadow ocean, marveling at the star's living, golden presence.

nainoa suddenly received one of the american's boyhood memories, a chunk of information he had apparently acquired while exploring huge rooms filled with strange objects in a building of immense proportions. as nainoa's curiosity arose, a thought from the american's mind came in response.

'egypt..these things are housed in a museum in the city of my birth. the memory you picked up concerned a long-dead king called amenhotep the 4th. this man changed his name to ahkenaten when he initiated a new religion centered on the worship of the sun. this pharaoh, as the egyptians called their kings, was considered a heretic by the people of his time, yet he was a great mystic who understood the star for what it is - a creator being. he had its symbol depicted on the temple walls as the aten, the sun disk. the literal translation of the pharoah's name ahk-en-aten meant 'shadow of the sun.'

...a rolling clap of thunder was heard, as their merged awareness shifted in response, as though they had passed through some doorway and entered yet another level in which all sense of separateness was lacking. now there was only the one, and they were a part of this oneness, as was their star, ...as was everything, everywhere.

the great lacy aka net of the pattern could be seen stretching into infinity across time and space in every direction, forever. the fibers closest to them could be dimly seen as distinct lines, but these rapidly merged into the misty distance filled with luminous light. there was a subtle color, a yellowish tone to the infinite vastness. their awareness shifted again, and the light now seemed to be made up of countless dots, creating a moving golden field that was both warm and light, both cool and dark.

the movement within this great, glowing immensity seemed to express a subtle vibrational quality, suggesting that this golden light was unmistakably alive. it seemed to be both calm and agitated, both stationary and in motion. the intensity of it was enormous, almost unbearable. as their merged minds searched for a concept to describe it, a word arrived virtually simultaneously in both hawaiian and english.

'nani...beauty.'

like the infinitely smaller cloud of the human spirit, this greater radiance, composed of moving dots or particles of living gold, was growing, its aliveness and mind-spirit determined by all that it contains. there was no question that the power in association with the field was capable of everything, its potential unlimited. and pervading the 'all' was a sense of tranquility, an absolute peace. the merged awareness of the american and hawaiian floated awestruck in this endless radiance, and a thought appeared, a memory of something that they learned out in africa when they had been given a glimpse o fit through the dorajuadiok - that this golden light was, is, and will always be, the mysterious source of all being - the eternal iao, the all-knowing one."

[astraya]

just found a new interview with mr. haramein. it's very concise regarding his theory on the ark of the covenant & also a tidbit about synchronicity.

"excerpt from nassim haramein's interview for earth pilgrims, the documentary film coming spring 2009.

nassim haramein is a revolutionary physicist, and founder of the resonance project.

earth pilgrims:
in our increasingly hopeless world situation, one man's disillusion spurs him onto a world journey to understand where we're at in the evolutionary timeline, and where we might be headed.

on a pilgrimage across the old world, through to the new, we meet along the way remarkable people and traditions that grant us thought-provoking perspectives from which to understand our world, and provide us with insights for how we, as individuals, might best navigate through the next saltation."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9upntumch80 (part 1/2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vkuqdabtmo

happy new year!

[weboy78]

the sun saved us!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zpysjh-zbs

[Chakramon]

was listening to nassim haramein's crossing the event horizon and found out the reason physicists and astrophysicists have been considering "dark matter" and "dark energy" is because their equations can only account for approx. 4% of all the "stuff" out there/in there. nassim is definitely one of the trailblazers for revisions to the unified field theory and understanding sacred geometry and how infinity in both directions of scale relate to the 64 tetrahedron grid that can be divided and multiplied infinitely without ever losing balance of polarity. oh, how exciting it is to be nowhere, lol nassim haramein's website is http://www.theresonanceproject.org/ and crossing the event horizon (at least the first part of the full 8 hour discussion available at the website) is here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4907540922643918266

[Qual]

i've just watched the nasim haramein dvd series "crossing the event horizon" and wondered how closely his stuff resembles ra / wilcock notions of physics, cosmology, etc? are there any irreconcilable points of difference?

[Viracocha]

watched this 4 dvd set when it was first released a while back, nassim is simply amazing the guy is so full of wisdom & has been a big inspiration in my life, if you liked the the resonance project then you should also watch he's 2003 conference which is available on youtube but i warn you it's very long, i like very much when he goes into the sun gods & also the sun cycles, sun flares etc, he also shares a lot of images & footage which is great, he explains everything very well, please watch & enjoy :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppgii_4cifu

[morawaj]

hi all!

i just received an email that nassim haramein will be appearing on coast to coast with george noory on wednesday february the 3rd.

i know that many here enjoy listening to this enlightened individual. :d

peace,
john m.

[Odin]

i was recently reminded of one of david's blog posts from about a year ago after watching some of nassim harameins material. apparently david was doing an interview with nassim and it was possibly going into 2012 event horizon. as far as i know it was never posted, but maybe i missed an announcement regarding it? anyone have any information regarding this interview? i love david and nassims material and i was really looking forward to the two of them talking.

[Natho]

i was recently reminded of one of david's blog posts from about a year ago after watching some of nassim harameins material. apparently david was doing an interview with nassim and it was possibly going into 2012 event horizon. as far as i know it was never posted, but maybe i missed an announcement regarding it? anyone have any information regarding this interview? i love david and nassims material and i was really looking forward to the two of them talking.

id have expected the same thing, an interview between both nassim & david would be great, they have alot in common. seen all of nassim's videos now, this guy is a prize winner for certain. its an honor to be living in the age where people with minds such as david & nassim are excelling, this is the type of innovation that should be world known. people as such have a massive effect on the public conciessness and give us the drive to become better people.:d