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AiR1k
05-27-2008, 04:21 PM
it goes without saying that i can only speculate what is believed to be, "truth" from what i feel resonating within my heart. i feel that there are many perspectives towards whatever it is truth can be defined as. the question is- how do we come to embrace all that is, was, or will be- and form that into one generic universal sense of understanding?
are my beliefs- just a small piece of the puzzle of that which is divine consciousness? is the truth set behind every individual their own piece to the greater puzzle? which makes me question- what exactly is the law of one?
is it the act of piecing the puzzle- and making whole with what was given?
-sorry if my thread seems illogical or redundant- just thought i could get a little clarification- and see the truth through your own understanding thus far.
:)

[Of course, any responses should be from a LoO perspective, as this post is in the LoO thread:) moderator]

Yusuf
05-28-2008, 09:23 AM
Greetings to you,
Ra says in the Law of One,"-You are everything,every being,every emotion,every event,every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are light/love, love/light. You Are.
This is the Law of One."

Peace and love to you,

Yusuf

AiR1k
05-28-2008, 03:05 PM
it's interesting how the law of one coincides with the idea of embracing everything that is/isn't. nothing is impossible- this is something i am a firm believer of. it kind of makes me question why we have constraints or limits in the world we live in today. if we are a part of the infinite why have we been experiencing a control as far as rules to life? and yes i am speaking of things from an every day-basis to even the extremities of flying. is the law of one helping those realize that nothing is impossible? we dream of astral projection, or have out of body experiences, or lucid dreams- etc. etc. all in which usually take place in another realm- a metaphysical realm. how do we make this a part of every day life? i want to dive in head first in-to the never ending flow of, "divine consciousness"-
i want to embrace.
so what am i to do, rather then sit here saying- "i want this i want that-"
how do we act? for me it's a matter of making myself believe this is the reality i choose to exist in- if i want to lift this pen up with my mind, what is stopping me from doing so? is it myself? is it the, "rule" that is supposedly valid for this life we live in that prevents me from being able to do so? if so- how does one break free from the mental bondage that we have come to experience thus far?
i believe we can do anything we put our minds to. nothing is impossible- and this should be the drive used to help aid me towards a better understanding of making the infinite- a reality in this life.
with thought we create,
we all think therefore we all create-
what is stopping us?
if we are the only one's stopping ourselves by creating our own limitations- then what action must be done in order to break free from such concepts?
i'm not here to point the finger- i'm here because i want to move on, and experience the infinite by becoming.
you're saying we are the infinite- does this mean that it is only a matter of realization- that we can then take the next step?
just a few thoughts- it gets exciting :)

Yusuf
05-29-2008, 04:15 AM
I send you greetings,
I get the impression that you have become overwhelmed by the thoughts and feelings that you have created. Your mind has become cluttered with unsubstantiated impressions and beliefs. You really can't see the wood for the trees and the wood has become entangled with brambles and undergrowth that you have put there. Now you can't see your way forward.
The really good thing is you KNOW what is happening otherwise you wouldn't be asking the questions.
YOU create the world you live in. The constraints and limits are of your own making. you say," We all think therefore we all create." You see, you DO know what is happening.
You really need to sit back and re-evaluate your existence.
Ra says in The Law of One, over and over again, the first step is meditation. Take time out EVERY DAY to find a quiet place and MEDITATE.
Got no time? Find it. Get up a little earlier in the morning freshen yourself up and then spend some time in meditation. Start with 5 or 10 minutes and take it from there.
you say you want to break free4e from the mental bondage. Do it! Through meditation you WILL break free.
I,ll tell you what to do but the choice is yours.
First, Meditate
Second, read carefully through the Law of One. (free on line)
Third, read carefully through David Wilcocks Books (free on line)
Fourth, keep in contact with us.
Fifth, sixth, seventh, etc. MEDITATE.
if you don't know how to start with meditation, send me a private message.
I will only be too pleased to help.
Remember, you are not alone in this. We have all experienced at some time what you are experiencing. We are all one.
You are loved and will be helped.

Peace and love to you,

Yusuf

Spiritheart
06-06-2008, 07:31 AM
I send you greetings,
I get the impression that you have become overwhelmed by the thoughts and feelings that you have created. Your mind has become cluttered with unsubstantiated impressions and beliefs. You really can't see the wood for the trees and the wood has become entangled with brambles and undergrowth that you have put there. Now you can't see your way forward.
The really good thing is you KNOW what is happening otherwise you wouldn't be asking the questions.
YOU create the world you live in. The constraints and limits are of your own making. you say," We all think therefore we all create." You see, you DO know what is happening.
You really need to sit back and re-evaluate your existence.
Ra says in The Law of One, over and over again, the first step is meditation. Take time out EVERY DAY to find a quiet place and MEDITATE.
Got no time? Find it. Get up a little earlier in the morning freshen yourself up and then spend some time in meditation. Start with 5 or 10 minutes and take it from there.
you say you want to break free4e from the mental bondage. Do it! Through meditation you WILL break free.
I,ll tell you what to do but the choice is yours.
First, Meditate
Second, read carefully through the Law of One. (free on line)
Third, read carefully through David Wilcocks Books (free on line)
Fourth, keep in contact with us.
Fifth, sixth, seventh, etc. MEDITATE.
if you don't know how to start with meditation, send me a private message.
I will only be too pleased to help.
Remember, you are not alone in this. We have all experienced at some time what you are experiencing. We are all one.
You are loved and will be helped.

Peace and love to you,

Yusuf
_/|\_ Greetings to One and All,

This is my first time here, therefore my first post. I don't wish to appear to know it all, but I would like to share with you what I have learned about Oneness and how I achieved this understanding.

As stated in this forum prior to this, meditation was the means to achieve a state of "No Thought." It wasn't something that happened on the first try, nor did it happen without great anticipation. For months I diligently meditated twice each day, once at sunrise and then at sunset. I tried and tried and tried repeatedly to put my mind in a state of "no thought," which I had read about in many of the Eastern Philosophical texts. In those manuscripts written by the greatest minds of civilization, they talked of Nirvana, a state of bliss where each of us resides as Spirit already. Yes, already, which didn't "click" with me until one day when I was so frustrated I was on the verge of just giving up the quest. I figured that it was just not going to happen for me, I didn't have what it took. I was resigned to failure.

At that last moment, when I came to the decision to give it up, the thought came to me to just release all my anxiety; my hold on this burning desire to achieve nirvana, Self-Realization. It was at that moment that I realized I was hanging onto this plane of existence FOR DEAR LIFE! I remembered reading that it was necessary to have this burning desire in order to achieve the state of understanding; Self-Realization. I also read that it was necessary to be brave enough and willing enough to "die a little death."

So I did! I resolved to allow this to happen. At that instant, "i" stepped BETWEEN two moments. Yes BETWEEN! In this physical plane that we come to know as our physical bodies, each moment is connected to the next, or at least that is the way we "see it." We think that by letting go of our hold of this physical plane we will cease to exist, that this is all there is. When in actuality, the stepping between each moment is nothing more then reaching a state of being where we already reside. Essentially, what this means is everything is connected to everything else; there is no "separation." NO SEPARATION!

Everything, I mean EVERYTHING that ever was or will be exists in eternity. Having stepped between each moment I found my being floating in a vast ness unconceivable to the human mind. All around me were spheres of light floating in unison. At that moment, I realized I was one of those spheres of light, then ZAP. I was in what appeared to be a vortex with a bright light at one end. All around me seemingly suspended in nothingness was everything that ever was; worlds and events intact. I was amazed at vastness of what I was experiencing. Then, as I looked around something started to emerge from the field of bright light at the "end" of the vortex. It appeared to be human in form, but I could not clearly make it out. So I intentional "tried" to focus on this human form. At that moment, I was back in my body as if poured into a teacup. All of the weight of gravity exerting its force on this physical form I was attached to.

I was devastated at that moment. I wanted to be back in that vastness we call Eternity, where there was no tugging or pulling by forces we understand as the physical plane. I believe, I intentionally tried to focus on that form coming through the bright light. In doing so, the "I" took over and brought me back to this "reality." Reality, a misnomer at best!

The thought I would like to leave the reader with is though each of us must intently "try" to acheive a state of "no thought," it is the releasing of our attachment to each moment,which will allow the Shift of Ages and the experience of Life in its entirety.

Spiritheart
06-06-2008, 07:55 AM
_/|\_ Greetings to One and All,

This is my first time here, therefore my first post. I don't wish to appear to know it all, but I would like to share with you what I have learned about Oneness and how I achieved this understanding.

As stated in this forum prior to this, meditation was the means to achieve a state of "No Thought." It wasn't something that happened on the first try, nor did it happen without great anticipation. For months I diligently meditated twice each day, once at sunrise and then at sunset. I tried and tried and tried repeatedly to put my mind in a state of "no thought," which I had read about in many of the Eastern Philosophical texts. In those manuscripts written by the greatest minds of civilization, they talked of Nirvana, a state of bliss where each of us resides as Spirit already. Yes, already, which didn't "click" with me until one day when I was so frustrated I was on the verge of just giving up the quest. I figured that it was just not going to happen for me, I didn't have what it took. I was resigned to failure.

At that last moment, when I came to the decision to give it up, the thought came to me to just release all my anxiety; my hold on this burning desire to achieve nirvana, Self-Realization. It was at that moment that I realized I was hanging onto this plane of existence FOR DEAR LIFE! I remembered reading that it was necessary to have this burning desire in order to achieve the state of understanding, Self-Realization. I also read that it was necessary to be brave enough and willing enough to "die a little death."

So, I did! I resolved to allow this to happen. At that instant, "I" stepped BETWEEN two moments. Yes BETWEEN! In this physical plane, that we come to know as our physical bodies, each moment is connected to the next, or at least that is the way we "see it." We think that by letting go of our hold of this physical plane we will cease to exist, that this is all there is. When in actuality, the stepping between each moment is nothing more then reaching a state of being where we already reside. Essentially, what this means is everything is connected to everything else; there is no "separation." NO SEPARATION!

Everything, I mean EVERYTHING that ever was or will be exists in eternity. Having stepped between each moment I found my being floating in a vast ness unconceivable to the human mind. All around me were spheres of light floating in unison. At that moment, I realized I was one of those spheres of light, then ZAP. I was in what appeared to be a vortex with a bright light at one end. All around me seemingly suspended in nothingness was everything that ever was; worlds and events intact. I was amazed at vastness of what I was experiencing. Then, as I looked around something started to emerge from the field of bright light at the "end" of the vortex. It appeared to be human in form, but I could not clearly make it out. So, I intentionally "tried" to focus on this human form. At that moment, I was back in my body as if poured into a teacup. All of the weight of gravity exerting its force on this physical form I was attached to.

I was devastated at that moment. I wanted to be back in that vastness we call Eternity, where there was no tugging or pulling by forces we understand as the physical plane. I believe I intentionally tried to focus on that form coming through the bright light. In doing so, the "I" took over and brought me back to this "reality." Reality, a misnomer at best!

The thought I would like to leave the reader with is though each of us must intently "try" to achieve a state of "no thought," it is the releasing of our attachment to each moment, which will allow the Shift of Ages and the understanding of how all of Life is connected.

Rhonda
06-06-2008, 07:44 PM
Welcome Spiritheart, thank you for sharing these deep experiences. Well said and easy to understand.

Blessings !

daresh
06-07-2008, 02:58 PM
Spiritheart your experience sounds like my experience 5 years ago, and well it sounds like a classic example of a non duality experience. my story goes as follows: I was searching for absolute truth, for the source, for ultimate happyness, and I searched and searched for years, through meditation, found some levels of deep peace but still I wasn't satisfied. And on one day it became to much, I was so unhappy, I just couldn't find it, I thought 'well I might as well commit suicide' but that wasn't an option cause I would have to come back to learn the lessons which I haven't learnt so I decided to sit down and not rise again untill I found my answer. With all my energy and determination I sat there and I withdrew deeper and deeper till I finally just released it all, it all fell away, on the moment I let it all go, it came from itself. A deep unity experience, being that which is, timelessness...

But as they say in buddhism, seeing the absolute is not enlightment!
wish I had more guidance back then. It reminds me of a buddhist tale, paraphrasing here.
A student had been meditating for years and one day he went to his master and said, I have this great timeless experiences in my meditation, deep unity, tremendous peace, it is amazing.
The master asked did that experience had a beginning and an end?
The student replied, yes.
The master said, go back and come back when you experience that which is very simple and has no beginning.

What the master was pointing at is that these experiences are important but they pass also and that real non-duality is beyond duality but also beyond non-dualistic experiences. It is in every experience!
It is the simple presence in every moment.
Enlightment is something which can't be attained, everybody is already enlightened.
If there really is a thing as unity it has to be everywhere! in every experience from taking a poe till having deep unity experiences. The simple awareness is in every experience.

thought I'd share this,
filip

soup
06-08-2008, 03:08 PM
...it goes without saying that i can only speculate what is believed to be, "truth" from what i feel resonating within my heart. i feel that there are many perspectives towards whatever it is truth can be defined as. the question is- how do we come to embrace all that is, was, or will be- and form that into one generic universal sense of understanding?
are my beliefs- just a small piece of the puzzle of that which is divine consciousness? is the truth set behind every individual their own piece to the greater puzzle? which makes me question- what exactly is the law of one?
is it the act of piecing the puzzle- and making whole with what was given?...

When I read this I had a curious image come to mind: it was as if an endless sheet traversing - not so unlike the newspapers on press before they are cut for publishing - but this sheet was of jigsaw puzzle pieces along a roller where they were being conjoined upon it - ahead of which and behind which they were somewhat split apart, as if in some form of endless regeneration, as if such a roller was a point where problems of integration of many fragments in some way or another, was answered. Maybe its a play on the term, rolling with the flow.


soup

soup
07-27-2008, 02:58 PM
...i can only speculate what is believed to be, "truth" from what i feel resonating within my heart. i feel that there are many perspectives towards whatever it is truth can be defined as. the question is- how do we come to embrace all that is, was, or will be- and form that into one generic universal sense of understanding?...


DW taught me about the nature of "projection", that possibly whatever is ressonating in our heart may truly be in part a projection of outside influence.

By way of this idea, the nature of our attitude may relate to who's in our space to a greater extent than what we self generate alone in solitude.

So an act of embracing "all that is" can be the discipline of growing discernation so by which we may better arrive to a point of self acceptance.


soup

AiR1k
01-01-2010, 07:13 AM
greetings all :)

i write on this username today- a bit embarrassed by my character in the past(i've read through some old post)
so much change has happened since 2008- it leaves me feeling like a different person
parts of me still exist while other parts have faded away- or been altered through some kind of correcting phase

i wanted to apologize for any kind of arrogance i might have given off-
i was young(still am)- and was overwhelmed it almost felt like a challenge to post
...i'm headed in a completely different direction now which leaves me smiling

i wanted to thank you, yusuf
meditation has helped.... HELPS*** a lot

i'm not upset with where i was- as it was the beginning of my exploration into spiritual awakening... a bit loud- a bit hard-headed... but some of the things i believed then resonate with me now more then ever.... so there's no way i can be upset with myself- i'm just extremely grateful for the patient and understanding members here on this board-

don't mean to bump an old thread but felt inclined to get that out
also- many thanks to user: MarkM
will be creating a new name later on
this one feels- outdated :p ;)

merry christmas and happy new years

love
eric

Karus
01-31-2010, 09:10 PM
This is my first post on this forum, and I hope I don't make anyone made but I just have to get some things off my chest, and I guess this is as good a place to do it as any.

Now that being said, I want to say that I was raised in a Christian home. But I have always kept an open mind to everyones beleafs. I listened to my friends that practiced Wiccan, and Witchcraft, and many other things. I even listened to people I know that are into this New age stuff. and Frankly Nothing ever gripped me as being true. I have to be honest I am so new to this that I have not yet read the law of one. But from reading the post I am seeing just another religion springing up in this, with everyone saying Ra said. How do you know Ra said anything?

Seeing that it seems as with Christianity, The apostles wrote it down But yet its the word of GOD? or Jesus said. How do you know its not just a couple od guys who just have a gift od words? and that is way I am about to give up. I am soo sick of religion in any way shape or form. its nothing but a way of a few people gaining control over the masses.

Now a lot of what David said in his Project Camelot interview rings true to me But, as with everything else I see the pattern of "It won't happen the first time" Or "it might take a long time to get to this or that state" Why? if this is what the Universe whats of us, or the divine creater wants us to become why is it always so difficult to get to? I am sure that the replys I get on this if any will be the same as every other site when I asked questions like this will be the same "its you, Your not doing something right, or Your stopping yourself Ect.

So I guess my first question is How do you get to the truth? As I said before I was raised in a Christian home and I believed in it, I even tried to believe in it when I knew in my heart something was wrong with it.

My second Question is how do you know these guys that wrote the Law of one really channled it, not just making it up? I have many questions that maybe one day I will get the answers to in time.

Anyway I am sorry if I have made some of you mad, its not my intention I am just trying to get to the truth and its seems like its imposable to get. thank you for listening

evolving
02-01-2010, 08:48 PM
Anyway I am sorry if I have made some of you mad, its not my intention I am just trying to get to the truth and its seems like its imposable to get. thank you for listening

These are normal questions to ask, and have validity. There is no wrong in asking :)

I was also raised Christian, but religion never seemed right with me and I turned away from God because I thought it was all a big scam to get money for the church. I believed that organized religion was one of the banes of mankind in that it had power and control over people, and had caused war after war.

When I began to read the Law Of One, it simply made sense. There was not some white bearded old man sitting in heaven looking down on us, damning us for our sins and sending us to an eternal fire and brimstone hell if we did wrong. Believe me, I'd be going there if it was up to religion.

In the Law of One I found truth, and understanding, and compassion, and science... things explained thirty years ago that had no scientific basis, yet are being found to be true by scientists every day. Half of what was in the LOO thirty years ago was sci-fi, but today it is recognized science.

Then there comes the spiritual side of things. It portrays a God that makes sense, where there is no right or wrong, and there is no heaven or hell. Each of us are loved equally by God, and in God's eyes we are all perfect.

Reading the LOO will take you on a spiritual and scientific journey my friend, and I guarantee once you do, there will be no turning back from your new truth and understanding. This is no religion, because there are no churches, no priests, no cash plate, and no rules. Take what you understand to be true and forget the rest. Ra was and is no God, and they have told us this to be sure it is not mistaken again, like it was in Egypt. Ra are like older brothers to us, as are so many other channelled brothers in the galaxy. They love us and care for us, and that will become clear to you.

I could go on and on and on for days, but I think it best you go and do some reading. Then you can make your own determination as to what you think.

Love/Light

Foghorn
02-02-2010, 03:14 AM
Originally Posted by Karus
So I guess my first question is How do you get to the truth?

Dig, Search, Read, Ask Questions, etc. ... and never give up. Some of us have been doing just that 30 years or more. I understand your frustration. Bear in mind, all truth is personal.

There is no shortcut as there is with religion where you are told what to believe, and punished when you don't. Each one of us has come from a different background, belief and understanding.

When I stopped thinking God was a old man with a white beard wearing a robe snooping on me from bedroom to bathroom and started visualized him as loving energy, in my every breath and being, it clicked.

I was not familiar with channeling before coming to DC. Perhaps watching Carla's recent 3 part video will answer your questions as she explains there is no conflict with the Law of One and describes herself as a Mystical Christian.

[link to this is in the Carla on Law of One thread]

the end of video 2 and beginning of 3 answer
your questions.

May I suggest you listen to Carla's interview more than once.
I've listened to it 3 times, not in succession, and I am amazed
what I missed from the last time I watched it.

[moderators modified Foghorn's two posts into one]

Starfire
02-03-2010, 03:45 PM
Karus;

I believe in your search for the truth you are doing it right. You are going through the steps it takes to get to the truth. And you will get there. You are open-minded – that’s required, you are searching – that’s required, you don’t accept what doesn’t feel true to you – that’s required, and you are asking for truth – that’s required. By stating that you are giving up is a big step. Giving up is a way to surrender to the truth, you are giving up on what hasn’t worked and now I believe you are making room for the truth to come to you in a way that will work for you.

I too was raised with a strong religious background - Catholic Christian. But by the time I got to college I did not feel the need to attend church. Eventually I came to understand that religion is not about God or truth. Religion is simply people organizing together that agree to a common belief system, and the rules, the doctrine and interpretations that go along with the system that are put in place. Some people need that and get value from it, some people may just go along with it because it’s what they’ve always done and don’t question it. Some people get value from it at first then need to move on because they’ve gotten all they can from it. All of that is ok, all are on their own path. Along our paths we may pick up pieces of the truth that are valuable and let go of what isn’t.

You are perfectly justified in questioning the validity of the Law of One. David Wilcock has had a lot to say about the validity of it you should research for yourself what David has had to say and decide for yourself if it feels right to you. Personally I do believe in it and trust in the validity of the channellers. Does that mean I trust all channeled information – no. I do believe that David has a lot of integrity both personally and in the work he does and is not trying to deceive anybody. I do not trust any of this blindly. I have a foundation that I have built that I use to measure this against. I did not find my understanding of the truth through the Law of One I found mine on another path, another form so to speak. When I did come across the Law of One it simply reaffirmed what I already knew. It allowed me to see the truth from another point of view stated in a different way. The Law of One makes sense to me, does it make sense to everyone – no. Does it mean I get it all – no it can be very difficult in places without David’s interpretation there are a lot of parts I would not get at all.
I believe it takes time due to everything we do in the this physical body takes time it is simply part of the process. We work at it and things are happening that we may or may not be aware of, yet it is all part of the process. It is like going from kindergarten thru college it takes time.

Trust your inner guidance to lead you to the truth in a form that you can understand. Ask and you shall receive, trust and be patient.

I hope this helps in some way. :)
May the truth bless you with understanding.
Starfire