Questions About "Our Companions"

[PugMeister]

1.my first question i would like for the forum to help me with is, is service to 2nd density beings (i.e. our companions or pets if you prefer) the same as service to others? i don't have alot of interaction with 3rd density beings except at work.
but my time is spent caring for & loving the 4 dogs & 3 cats i have. i don't take vacations or go off for anytime because i want to be with my companions. i love them dearly & am trying to clothe them with the self awareness of who they are.so that they may be 3rd density harvestable.

2.my second question is do our higher selves & our companions' higher selves with us get together & plan out our lives before our incarnation. bringing all these things together so that we will bring those companions into our care in this life. also, do any of you believe we have had the same companions before?

3.i just 2 days ago lost the most precious companion i believe one could have.
he was a 7 yr. old pug that i loved dearly. i am having trouble letting him go. i started feeling sad & was afraid of loosing my 2 pugs months ago. i believe i knew before i came into this incarnation that this would happen.hence, my 2nd question. also, do you think we will ever see them again or can we become their a spirit guide to them? i would appreciate your replies to my questions.

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

[quote=pugmeister;33338]1.my first question i would like for the forum to help me with is, is service to 2nd density beings (i.e. our companions or pets if you prefer) the same as service to others? quote]

good questions pugmeister, and welcome to the forum!:) i believe giving the dignity and respect to any being by honoring their presence as equal manifestation of the infinite creator, is definitely service to others.;) ................sylvain.................

[Wellerite]

i think some people get all hung up over their degree of service to others. we are doing everything we are supposed to be doing by just being here and yes i believe that life is mapped out in advance. it's hard for us to comprehend the universal mind in this density. it's a bit of a cosmic joke really, we're here looking at the clock, tick, tock, tick, tock, wishing our lives away, when really time means something different in each octave of existence. i do believe that the panorama of life is laid out in front of us prior to incarnating and that it is a contractual agreement. i don't mean to make it sound so stale and uninteresting but i think we have to remember that we are part of a bigger whole, a unified field.

i think about exactly the same thing with the pet issue, i have a dog (sandy) and a fat lazy cat (mowgal) whom i both love dearly. i think most domestic pets will be harvestable because they've got so much bloody time on their hands to ponder their reality. hey i bet a lot of us spent a couple of incarnations as pets, that would be a trippy regression.

i think that the most humanist attribute is vegetarianism. i and i'm sure along with many others on this site are strong proponents of this very issue. a hopi indian once stated that we should concentrate on our responsibilities instead of moaning about our rights and realised that the planet is our responsibility to look after as is the welfare of our younger brothers and sisters the animal and plant kingdom.

[johnasmodeus]

go check out the ra material at ll research's web site. do a search for "pets." ra went into some very interesting details about our animal friends.

http://www.llresearch.org/

[astraya]

hi pugmeister,

sorry to hear of the loss of your pug...and he was quite young too...

i've also been wondering about the roles of our pets and animals in general. i always seem to have dogs around even in my "inner realm" when i'm meditating and dreaming. partly for me they keep me grounded in material reality. but i thought you might find some consolation in these words from "the individual and the nature of mass events" speaking as seth through jane roberts.

"seth reminded us that "animals do not 'think' of long lives or short lives, but of a brilliant present, which in a way, compared to your framework, has no beginning or end.., time, in your terms, does not exist for them--and in the deepest of terms a life's quality on a human scale cannot be judged primarily in terms of its length, either."
http://www.geocities.com/n4awi/seth19.htm

best,
stacy

[Mossy]

sory to hear about your loss:)
there is solid evidence also of pets, especially dogs and cats having their own astral bodies (seen through projections).
so they must have spirits.
i dont know about other animals.
i think it is something to do with their close interactions with humans.
i would agree with sanctus germanus too that service to others would most defenately include pets

[jeremy6d]

my first question i would like for the forum to help me with is, is service to 2nd density beings (i.e. our companions or pets if you prefer) the same as service to others?

i'd say service to 2nd density beings is certainly a form of service. it is a subset of the larger general set of service-oriented behaviors. i would say that service to 3rd density beings is a crucial part of being well-rounded and getting the most out of your incarnation, from my point of view. there is simply a quality and character of interaction that you cannot get from animals and plants. it may be easier and more meaningful to practice the exercises ra laid out in the law of one series (seeing others as self and as the creator) if you are interacting with others that look and act more like you. it also may be more meaningful to experience this interaction with third density beings as the result of at least one close relationship, as this is a source of much reflection and learning.


do our higher selves & our companions' higher selves with us get together & plan out our lives before our incarnation.

because our higher selves are aware of the unity of consciousness, i doubt they need to do something as formal as "plan it out". since our higher selves are at sixth density already, there is much of which they are aware, and they probably just act out of a natural, intuitive coordination with the universe. because they don't perceive and create distinctions between entities and the creator, they don't need to organize the creation - they simply manifest it.


also, do you think we will ever see them again or can we become their a spirit guide to them?

it's possible, certainly. one thing to keep in mind is that, just as you are more than you express in the physical world of third density, so are others, including second density entities. it's important to understand that just as you are likely to go through lots of changes on your path to the creator, your second density friends are, as well. the only reason i mention this is that our personifications of our pets can sometimes be largely of our own particular creation, rather than the authentic perception of the entity itself. i find myself doing this with my beagle. i'm sure this is part of the investure process by which we gift a personality to second density entities; remember, though, that you are not the only influence on the entity, and that they have a free will, too. respecting that will as an independent part of the creator, and letting these second density beings move on along their path to the creator, is probably the most important expression of love you can offer.

[PugMeister]

"letting these second density beings move on along their path to the creator, is probably the most important expression of love you can offer."
this is very hard for me jeremy. the bond with my bilbo was very close. i am trying to release him but it is very hard. i have ask him to come to me when i cross over so i will know if he has graduated as i believe he has.
along those lines, if our departed companions are 3rd density harvestable , do
they transision right away? do they walk the stairs? does their higher self come to them then,or has it been interacting with them all along? ra said it is a gift to us. are we aware of this gift before we go into 3rd density or is it already interacting with us in 2nd density?
i believe that the bond & closeness that i feel toward bilbo is because we have shared many lives together. i still want to help him anyway i can until we are one again with the creator.

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

hi pugmeister, let me share with you what i have felt most of my life regarding lower density beings attaching themselves to positive loving energy in hopes to somehow learn at a very rapid pace. you see this is what i think, maybe a 1st density being connects with you or you embrace it's beingness like contemplating a flower for instance or just feeling aliveness radiating out of a tree or any plant. this being comes back over and over and sometimes reconnects with you maybe as a 2nd density being. your bond may becomes stronger every time, specialy when free will is nurtured and protected, i feel this is what attracts the same entety back, free will to learn, wonder and wander.:) ......................sylvain..................... ..........

[transiten]

hi pugmeister and others!

i can feel your pain having lost your dog. my shorthaired collie pajazzo is becoming 12 this summer and i know he will pass away within a few years and i already can feel the sorrow....it struck me that he is doing service to me also, veeery much so...

liliane

[conundrum]

hiya others

good question pugmeister, while i was reading the book of lucid dreaming my dog was laying on the bed next to my legs asleep she has in the past had nightmares as she would be jerking her legs and letting out little yelps as though she was running from some thing.

in the past i would just stroke her and it seemed to help but on this particular occasion i was reading and was actually reading about confronting the boogey man in ones nightmares... it said that if you can recognize that you are dreaming and face the fear and confront it by looking at it or asking it whom or what it is it will either dissipate or turn into a less formidable form.

any way she began having this nightmare and i wondered what would happen if i was in her dream standing next to her so she wouldn't be frightened so she could face her boogey man, i was looking at her while i was thinking this and she was against my leg having the nightmare.

what happened next totally freaked me out and my face most likely looked like this :eek:
she sat up pointed her head towards the ceiling and let out this blood curdling howl :eek:
i didn't know what to do so i shook her so she would wake up as i was almost fudging my undies she looked around layed back down and went back to sleep.

reflecting back on the event i think the howl was some kind of release for her as i have not seen her have another nightmare since which is bizzare as she had them all the time, so for me the message was load and clear we are definitely connected and what we think and our intent does have an effect on animals every thing and every one around us.

l&l

[soup]

as a child i remember having many spider nightmares...one night i woke up screaming that there was an enormous spider between my legs - which upon waking i discovered was our benevolent cat sweetpea...i think that was one of my last spider nightmares, that somehow by that she helped me grow beyond such mode of dreaming.


soup

[soup]

...i started feeling sad & was afraid of loosing my 2 pugs months ago. i believe i knew before i came into this incarnation that this would happen....

this seems a difficult human lesson - detaching from an endeared attachment, transcending a sort of possesive nature that may in some way infringe freewill. it can seem like a leap of faith to let go so - though maybe it is better the fear of loss we let go of, in the act of doing that.

the detached aquarius water bearer - lets go of the carried water so that flowers bloom, and it lightens the load.


soup

[PugMeister]

i found this on carla's site.
a: yes, i have question about the second density we were watching, the cats. do animals come to people by accident? or do the animals that come, like those—i have three cats—do they come on purpose, pre-set up ahead of time before we come in this incarnation, to teach you certain lessons and for you to help them. i mean, is it an accident or do these animals happen to come to us, the particular ones that come to us?
i am latwii, and we find that we may answer most effectively, we hope, by suggesting that though there are no accidents within your patterned incarnations, that there are certain general possibilities or opportunities that each may make available previous to the incarnation without making the opportunity of such a specific nature that one and only one fulfilling of it is possible. thus, though it is possible for an entity to decide upon a certain second-density companion that will join it during its third-density experience, it is more likely that an entity will decide upon that general kind of experience in order to learn certain lessons and provide certain services, and leave the specific fulfilling of that decision to what may be seen as larger forces, that is, the providing of catalyst by the source that you would see as the logos, that primal energy that is generally described as love or the godhead, which provides the precise patterns of energy within all creation. however, there are many cases of the second-density creatures joining those third-density companions that have shared experience in previous times, as you would say. thus, it is not possible to give one simple answer to this query.
may we answer further, my sister?
a: is it possible for an animal that gets killed in this lifetime to reincarnate again in a year or so again to that same family to learn other lessons?
i am latwii, and this is quite so. may we answer further, my sister?
this answers one of my questions.