Atlantean Descendants

[darth_rothscum]

Hey all,

Anyone figure out what Ra was referring to when they said the following (in Session 10):

"The civilizations of Atlantis and Lemuria were not one but two. Let us look first at the Mu entities ... They were beings of a somewhat primitive nature, but those who had very advanced spiritual distortions ... It was an helpful and harmless place which was washed beneath the ocean during a readjustment of your sphere’s tectonic plates through no action of their own. They sent out those who survived and reached many places in what you call Russia, North America, and South America. The Indians of whom you come to feel some sympathy in your social complex distortions are the descendants of these entities. "

Does Ra mean the Meso-Americans of Mexico and Central/South America or the Indians of India??

And another:

"This created an earth-changing configuration and the large part of Atlantis was no more, having been inundated. Three of the positively-oriented of the Atlantean groups left this geographical locus before that devastation, placing themselves in the mountain areas of what you call Tibet, what you call Peru, and what you call Turkey."

Once again, is Ra saying that the Hittites of Turkey, modern-day Tibetans and Peruvian native Americans are DIRECT descendants of the Atlantean peoples???

[johnasmodeus]

I believe Ra is speaking about Native Americans, since I don't think that much sympathy would have been due to subcontinental Indians in the 80s. That was after Ghandi's time.

As for descendancy, just look at bodily similarities. I mean, don't you think it's odd that Native Americans share skin tone and high cheekbones with Tibetans?

[darth_rothscum]

I believe Ra is speaking about Native Americans, since I don't think that much sympathy would have been due to subcontinental Indians in the 80s. That was after Ghandi's time.

As for descendancy, just look at bodily similarities. I mean, don't you think it's odd that Native Americans share skin tone and high cheekbones with Tibetans?

Actually, Tibetans don't look too much like Meso-Americans. Any similarities might be due more to evolutionary pressures from living in similar climates--high atop the mountains (Andes or Himalayas). Tibetans are also HUGE. They are a very big people--no joke--to rival Arabs. They simply have large body sizes whereas most meso-Americans are quite short and somewhat slim (more defined body shape as opposed large girth).

And perhaps by "Russians," Ra is referring to the tiny little tribes in the Russian Far East and Siberia. This makes me believe Atlantis might have been near Baffin Island in Canada and that the Atlanteans may have moved West into the Northwest Territory region and then bifurcated south (going all the way to Peru) and further west into Alaska over the (now defunct) land bridge into the Russian Far East.

I was originally thinking "Indians" as East Indians because there seems to be a stunning similarity between the philosophical basis of Hinduism/Buddhism and what is described in the Law of One teachings. Ra did mention that they made contact with the South Americans (along with the Egyptians)--and that helps to explain why that Mayan Calender and their ancient philosophy (before it got corrupted) shows a lot of resonance with the LOO. Maybe some other group taught the ancient Indians about the Kundalini methods, 3rd Eye pineal stuff (?).

[larissa]

Not only do Tibetans look like American Indians, they are the same race. One of the high Tibetan lamas came over to America some time ago and met with a Navaho Indian chief and they exchanged friendship or brotherhood, they acknowledged that they were the same race. Sorry I can't give you names and dates, I just know this happened.

They use the same designs in their art, they are into silver and turquoise jewellry, they do look so much alike you can't tell them apart. I guess all our perceptions are different. I believe Ra was talking about the American Indians.

[darth_rothscum]

Perhaps North American Indians then, and the Russian Far East natives and Tibetans are all related. (But they are quite different now in terms of culture and religion). And if this is true, then maybe the South Americans native peoples must are a different race all together. hmmmm

This is giving me a headache.

[Greywolf69]

one question. now i know that you are looking for a specific group or groups of peoples, as it seems to me, but would you concider one who lived a past life in atlantis a decendant also?

[darth_rothscum]

one question. now i know that you are looking for a specific group or groups of peoples, as it seems to me, but would you concider one who lived a past life in atlantis a decendant also?

Yes, I would definately consider someone who had a past life on Atlantis (eg Rata-Cayce-Wilcock) as a descendant. But, for the purposes of this discussion ... I was kinda trying to determine the biological descendants in our physical world. It's a very limited inquiry, I know, because as those Russian scientists have proven: DNA's molecular make-up is a function of consciousness. So, when you see things in this light, all this "bloodline" and "hereditary descendant" talk is sophmoric.

Still, I was just interested.

I've given it some thought ... and based on what some people have written here, I think I'm sticking to my theory that Atlantis must have been somewhere in the north Atlantic (near Baffin Island, Canada). Before the submersion, three groups went to Turkey, Tibet and Peru (I guess they like mountains) and during the calamity, a few more groups fled West into Canada. From there, one branch must have gone south to later be known as the "Red Indians" of North America and even 'souther' into some place in South America (the Amazon natives perhaps ??) and another branch further West over the Alaska-Russia ice-bridge into the Russian Far-East.

[johnasmodeus]

According to Cayce, the South Americans actually WERE a different race than the North Americans. The Atlanteans/Tibetans/Native North Americans were the "red" race and the Native South Americans were the "brown" race. All in all, there are supposed to have been five root races: Black, brown, red, yellow, and white.

[Greywolf69]

one thing that i had found about atlantis was that it was not particularly one city, but more along the lines of 10 islands or continents, or something of the sort. i think Lemuria was around about the same time, but im not too sure on that part.

[soup]

...i think Lemuria was around about the same time, but im not too sure on that part...

About two weeks ago, I had a dream where I was one of four people sitting about a round table. I understood that I was one of two people at the table who could bear the task of time traveling back 2000 years ago for some story related to Lemuria. Within this dream I also had some sense there was some California connection (which may relate to my physical proximity.)

Anyhow, it was one of those unforgettable energetic dreams that's stayed with me since. On pondering this, I rememebered that part of my crystal garden contains a Lemurian Record Keeper / Key crystal and now I wonder if part of this dream I had relates to this.

Not long after I had received this crystal, I used it as a dream stone by which I a beautiful reflective labyrinthian dream came (which I shared on the turtledreamers' open site.)

Now, I simply reflect that part of Lemuria may be wherever these Lemurian crystals reside, as in the hands of those pondering such mysteries.


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[Chris Hamilton]

A reminder that this was the original question to this thread:

"The civilizations of Atlantis and Lemuria were not one but two. Let us look first at the Mu entities ... They were beings of a somewhat primitive nature, but those who had very advanced spiritual distortions ... It was an helpful and harmless place which was washed beneath the ocean during a readjustment of your sphere’s tectonic plates through no action of their own. They sent out those who survived and reached many places in what you call Russia, North America, and South America. The Indians of whom you come to feel some sympathy in your social complex distortions are the descendants of these entities. "

Does Ra mean the Meso-Americans of Mexico and Central/South America or the Indians of India??

Let us please stay on topic or start a different thread. Thank you, Chris

[soup]

...Once again, is Ra saying that the Hittites of Turkey, modern-day Tibetans and Peruvian native Americans are DIRECT descendants of the Atlantean peoples???...


I ponder the idea that many children seem so very different from their parents even though they are direct descendants of them. And then I ponder the idea of grandchildren being so very different from their grandparents even though they are direct descendants of them. Of course there seem exceptions though the counter question comes to mind, is the idea of direct descendancy (i.e. blood - line) useful somehow?

There may be many elements at play in a person's life experience, and I tend to weigh the elements of environment and freewill choice as likewise influential.

Possibly there can be some past life regression work that helps one to make peace with ancestral influences. I was pondering the symbol of the "skull" as associated to "ancestral wisdom", and somehow I related that to "eternal light", and then to sunshine. Maybe the symbol for RA can seem related to the winged sun as somehow related to love/light.


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[soup]

I've subsequently had a dream of being in a circle of women inside a water cave - as I attempt to swim out of the cave to salvation with another woman I am drowned. EOD


Anyhow, back to the subject....
...They were beings of a somewhat primitive nature, but those who had very advanced spiritual distortions...

I wonder if parts of modern humanity could plays contrast to such description: they are beings of somewhat technologically advanced nature, but with a very retarded spiritual distortion...

In this way it is not difficult to surmise that the myth of Atlantis submersing may be simply dream metaphor...


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