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heidh
05-03-2008, 11:10 AM
hello. i'm new to the forum. relatively new to david's work also. just became acquainted in the past month.

was browsing the blogs and found myself attracted to the 4-part blog regarding "the secret". here's a link: http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=315&itemid=70.
in the latter part, where the author cited talks about having to make peace with money, i subconsciously felt myself "raising my hand", as if to say, "yeah, that's me."

i'm one of those people who has never gained a comfort level with money. i'm in my thirties and still live at home as a result. it's a problem, and one i'd like to remedy, but don't know how. for as long as i can remember, there's been a disconnect for me between money and wealth. wealth i see as one thing that is "true"; money i see as something that is alien and "false". i don't know why that is, and i've yet to successfully reconcile the two.

as an example, many years ago, i recall seeing a psychic for a reading. when i handed her the $20 bill for the reading, she said to me, "you have a problem with this," - "this" meaning the physical exchange of money. i said, "yes." it wasn't that i had a problem with giving her something in exchange for her service. it was with the money itself, which i felt was something alien and not a true measure of value. i've since experienced the same feeling whenever i give or receive money or checks. sometimes i'll let money i receive sit unopened in the envelope for long periods of time, because some part of me feels it's alien and not a real measure of the work i did. when handling money or anything related to it (e.g., paying a bill or invoicing a client), i always emotionally distance myself. i'm fine with bartering goods and services, and i'm fine with wealth. it's just the entity "money" that i've got some deep issue with. in fact, in my prayers, i've sometimes found myself asking, "please free me from the need for money," with the intention behind that of "please show me a way to make my way in the world without having to participate in the monetary system."

when i read this cited in david's blog, like i said, it was like the author was speaking to me. i read on with excitement, hoping that a method for overcoming this issue would be proposed, but i didn't see one. if anybody knows where more information can be found on this topic or on methods of how to "make friends" with money, i'd greatly appreciate the information. i'm a deeply spiritual person, and believe i'm working my purpose by being a singer, songwriter, and help to others however i can, but i also believe the ability to at least be financially independent should be a part of that. certainly, i believe that i should enjoy a measure of wealth equal to the service i render.

thank you.

-h

~M^E~
05-03-2008, 10:01 PM
the [book name-please pm] is your awnser.
at least a huge first step.
being very spiritual myself i also tread down the path of not seeing much value in money for too long.
i could list reason after reason why this book should be your #1 priority right now.
you should even be able to find it for free somewhere on the www.

your serious about making a change?...read this book...over and over again.

PriestOfLight
05-07-2008, 06:37 AM
i am at this level also. i barely ever balance my check book, though i do make enough to live on and support my kids. i am not sure it is the money itself that bother's me though, but the greed that it inspires in most people.

i would also like to read this book. i am very anti-money.

Greywolf69
05-07-2008, 07:16 AM
ah ... yes. i feel the same way about money. i understand that it is a form of energy, but people do place too much value on something that really has no value. it even says it on the dollar bill ... for all credit and debt (its not backed by anything but our beliefe that it is worth something). so i try not to stress over it. i have enought to pay childsupport, pay rent (cali is too expensive, and i dont really understand why) and i have a little extra. but, i must focus on my spiritual growth.

heidh
05-08-2008, 11:19 AM
thanks for the feedback. i actually had read the book ~m^e~ recommended a year ago. unfortunately, i didn't find it terribly helpful. though it's very pragmatic and certainly makes sense, it's also vague on a lot of points. i came away from reading it with a sense of, "okay, well, that's all great, but how exactly do i apply this?"

as for money itself, at least in my case, i know it's the thing itself that i find disharmonious. (1) it's a middle-man; a third-party artifact introduced into an exchange between two parties. because of this, buyers and sellers can more easily be exploited. it also creates any easy means for governments to tax transactions and manipulate "standards of value", which in turn, creates class division and makes redistribution of wealth easy to achieve. (2) at least here in the united states, our currency is plastered with illuminati symbols and messaging, which i personally find disturbing. i feel "contaminated" when i handle money. (3) there's the psychic vibe (for lack of a better descriptor) that i get from money. when i handle paper money especially, i can sometimes "feel" all the intent that has gone into the thing as it's been passed from one person to another through the course of transaction. most of the time, that energy read is negative.

like most on this path, i've learned to put my life's purpose first and walk with faith, trusting that if i remain true to what spirit has put upon my heart to do, all else will come in due course, including positive and abundant sources of income. in the meantime, i do what i have to in order to get along in the world.

speaking for myself, i truly hope that 2012 is a positive turning point for humanity. so much so that we indeed achieve a fourth density evolution and abandon money and other methods of control, so that people are free to develop themselves spiritually and creatively, as i believe spirit intends for us.

peace.

-h

winterspring
05-09-2008, 12:20 AM
our society in which we live in is a like a prison, and unless we are truly able to get out of that prison, we are still bound by its rules.
it is ironic, but the only way to be free from the "need of money", is to have plenty of money.
when it comes to finances, i have experienced both feast and famine, and that is the conclusion i came to. i too, once thought that if i had nothing to do with money, i would be able to break free, but i found out that it was the exact opposite. if you are breathing, you need money.

i would assume that most people would agree that money is a tool. the gov't uses it to control its people, and others to exploit. that is their choice. i choose to use it to allow me more time to pursue my passion. i work to get this money, not to accumulate it, but to buy my freedom. i am able to use "my time" for myself, instead of having to give it to a tyrannical boss. it makes me a better person, because i am not continuously around negative people bombarding me with negative vibes.

i believe that if we make our reality with our own thoughts, then we can also make for "positive" money on the same token.

on a last note, i would like to add: go into business for yourself. exchanging your time for x amount of dollars will keep you in servitude for a long time.


i also hope that after 2012 we can get rid of this entire monetary system. i eagerly await the brave new world.....until then....i am working hard to maintain some level of freedom in the "can".

heidh
05-09-2008, 03:41 PM
more than "like" a prison, i'd say. the 3d experience "is" a prison. but, maybe that's part of why we're here. maybe this is a prison we have to endure in order to evolve.

for what it's worth, i am in business for myself. stopped whoring myself out as a white collar slave 2 years ago after workplace abuse landed me in therapy for 5 months. i now work from home as a freelance designer. still have to deal with corporate, but at least now i'm out of the cube farm and can pick and choose which corporations i take on as clients. also frees up my evenings and weekends to pursue my true passion as a singer and songwriter. hoping to turn that into a source of income, so that i can do more of it and less of the other.

but, amen to 2012! bring on free energy! i'm ready to see the monetary system go bye-bye. being a spiritually aware person and a creative professional, i'm very much in favor of seeing a world free from material want and greed. everyday i make it a point to meditate and put focus on what i can do to help others become aware of the shift and their life's purpose, so that we can realize this miracle in my lifetime. :)

-h

dazcox
05-15-2008, 12:25 PM
i've been in the anti-money camp my whole life too but have recently tried to accept it for what it is. i have a pile of those new gold dollars around a sculpture i painted gold as a symbol that money can be what we want it to be, in my case it is art and potential to buy more art supplies.

billybobbutterball
03-09-2009, 02:58 PM
hi, all! bbb here

money. really big money.

i have an idea of what a thousand dollars in hundreds look like...even a hundred thousand, and maybe a million....but a billion? nah. a zillion..i mean a trillion? no real idea except it must be much larger than a billion, whatever that pile is like.:p

http://www.pagetutor.com/trillion/index.html

this will blow your mind! i had no idea of the physical volume involved. :eek: none at all. how in the world did dov zackheim misplace 2.5 trillion while he was the comptroller of the pentagon? :confused:

billybobbewildered:(

Deerclan
03-09-2009, 03:26 PM
how in the world did dov zackheim misplace 2.5 trillion while he was the comptroller of the pentagon?


put it in the wrong desk drawer by mistake?? :)

transiten
03-09-2009, 04:09 PM
hmmmm

just read an article today in "illustrated science" about an experiment made with students. some were to read about money and some about other topics. after that they were going to help other students with a problem. those who had focused on money only gave half as much time to help their fellow man:( as those who read other topics.

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