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Jeremy Weiland
12-13-2001, 10:51 AM
hey tiffani... sorry it's taken me so long to get back
to you! ok, the following (and all the stuff i've
been "preaching") is *my* analysis of the situation
from my viewpoint and my perspectives of the truth as
i view it. i offer it not to be like teaching you or
anything, but just sharing the thoughts i'm having
lately. by sharing our thoughts, hopefully we can
arrive at a consensus that isn't so bogged down with
our own, individual distortions. with that said...

> tiffani says" so jeremy does that mean when i my
> significant other has been reminded two days in a
> row to do something... and he reacts in a negative
> way...that he is displaying a characteristic about
> *me* that i don't want....??

i can't crawl into your head and point out the
specific quality he is portraying that is "pushing
your button" so to speak. however, what i am saying
is that you are angry with somebody, it is always a
reflection of a characteristic about yourself that you
don't like. i'm completely being hypothetical here,
because i don't know you or the situation you're in,
but maybe you think you nag too much and the fact him
reacting in a negative way to you reminding him
awakens this fear you have that you are a nag. he is
reflecting your fear of being a nag and consequently
unlovable. (please everybody understand i don't know
tiffani and this is just a hypothetical example).

we all bring baggage with us into our relationships,
but the problems that arise aren't problems with the
relationships, they are problems with the baggage.

ok, so for your other random thought :-)

> well same thought sort of...this comes back to my
> husband the other night readin part of a book i had
> read before that said "there is no right and wrong
> here in this place" ( be it dimension, time
> otherwise)
>
> how do i explain that one....he put down that book
> so fast...and my only response was that...'well
> maybe that is not the book/thoughts that you need
> right now...so it is ok to [ut it down..just because
> i got something out of it doesn't mean you will' etc
> etc

absoultely! one of the sources of problems we have
with other people is our need to shove stuff down
others throats. as ra says, service is offered and
then accepted or rejected as the recipient of service
sees fit. this is all about free will.

the real problem, imho, is why you attach so much
importance to your husband's opinion of what you are
interested in. so his action again is a potential
catalyst to meet a part of yourself that you had been
ignoring... or at least that's my best guess.

one more thing... there are different levels of modes
of understanding. on one level, there is a right and
wrong, but on another level there isn't. it all
depends on what level you are working from. all
levels, however, are valid. that is the key.

jeremy

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jha_amin
12-13-2001, 05:29 PM
--- in asc2k@y..., jeremy weiland <greenlantern113@y...> wrote:

gotta tell you this j.....you could hang up your shingle and give
advice. you never know how much reasonable answers are worth, and
they are so few and faaaaaaaar between. ;)
>
> absoultely! one of the sources of problems we have
> with other people is our need to shove stuff down
> others throats. as ra says, service is offered and
> then accepted or rejected as the recipient of service
> sees fit. this is all about free will.
>
> the real problem, imho, is why you attach so much
> importance to your husband's opinion of what you are
> interested in. so his action again is a potential
> catalyst to meet a part of yourself that you had been
> ignoring... or at least that's my best guess.
>
> one more thing... there are different levels of modes
> of understanding. on one level, there is a right and
> wrong, but on another level there isn't. it all
> depends on what level you are working from. all
> levels, however, are valid. that is the key.
>
> jeremy
>
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Chris Hamilton
03-15-2003, 06:28 PM
these avenues we have all traveled, alone or so we thought,
blindly following a rutted path and all the time believing
we were forging it on our own.
our separateness laughable in the eye's of one who sees no division.
for surely, it is obvious we are one in one's eyes.

it is with trepidation that we venture onto the smooth, unfurled path
the cyclical pattern we expect is absent,
where is our self here?
we must go with baby steps and trust
that we can make our own marks
upon the path and re-member who we are.
yet we still see separateness
and the one laughs,
for,surely, it is obvious we are one in one's eyes.

eventually we stumble across a most gutted and worn path
it whispers of laughter and warmth, crinkled smiling eyes
souls connecting, twining like a vine stretching towards the heavens to
infinity,
separateness dissolves as the one laughs
and we know we are one in one's eyes.

love to you all, chris




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parkers5
03-16-2003, 09:08 AM
--- in asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=i3xdx1xvtblj8ikyth9wpntmv3jzab6jralsr0 _d4qexfuabkqvyezbxq301dbfnh_q6tj2p-hssaw1_ha), "chris hamilton" <chris.hamilton2@v...>
wrote:

as one,
on avenues we travel
alone or so we thought
stumbling on rutted paths
in separatness we're caught
bravely venture to unknowns
forgetting who we are
baby steps, unfurled paths
blind in threats of war
eventually we awaken
feeling truth in one
whispered laughs
and crinkled paths
twisting vines
and stretching twines
smiling
in one's eyes.