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AmelieJolie
03-21-2008, 09:24 AM
......then would they still chose the negative path; power over others and causing others great suffering?

when i was a member of a particular christian church, for a very short while, in my early teens- one thing i never understood was the whole concept of the devil. for if harming others separates you from others, surely this would result in an inner darkness which results in the suffering of the self seeking the control.

surely, after a long period of time, the entity would then realize this and seek to be one with others again, welcoming love and light into their being and once again living in balance, harmony and joy.


i am have only read the first 2 books of the law of one, as well as a few other sessions at random, so i have a while to go- perhaps as i go along i will find more of these answers (actually i'm finishing the last few sessions of the first book as my phone line was down for a while so i had to jump straight onto the second, a copy of which i have in the house).

what are the "negative" densities like, i wonder? do they contain a great amount of suffering? are these "orion" groups mentioned, a part of the 3rd density or 4th? if they are a part of the 3rd density then they wouldn't be near as bad as the 4th density negative.


i only wish there was a way to remove the distorted perspective of a negative, power seeking entity, from its consciousness......to awaken the being to love, unity, balance and a deeper form of happiness.....
(sigh).

and end suffering.


a thought just came to me as i am typing.........

is pain and suffering at its most extreme in our third density only???.


one other thing i wonder about is what the 4th density negative places are actually like. do they have second and third density beings there that they are allowed to torture as people do here in this one?

i wonder whether second density beings which incarnate into such situations, incarnate because they, in a previous incarnation, practiced such torture on other beings as third density beings.....or whether they incarnate for reasons of pure love to provide a means of catalyst......or whether there is a way, for higher density entities, to help alleviate the pain of these entities....as they are experiencing being the "catalyst" in this dimension of time.

for example, in one laboratory alone in the uk, 500 animals die every day.
these are not being tested on for only medicines, but every single new ingredient for every single household product imaginable- it is purely economics. animals are poisoned with these substances, they live in tiny cages where they live terrified, never able to go out and smell the fresh air or see the sky. monkeys have pig organs sewn onto them for experiments into "xenotransplantation". dogs are used for experiments. all kinds of animals are used- not that it matters on the species- every sentient life forms feels suffering and needs love. some of the worst kinds of experiments are inflicted on animals by the ministry of defense. :(

anyway....that aside. (the knowledge of this type of thing is just something which personally haunts me).

i just hope, that one day there will be an end to all this.

4th density negative entities have got no right to cause suffering over "lower", developing entities.
i hope in these densities, there exist 4th density beings only, and not lower entities they can use and abuse at there own whims, gain and amusement.


and i hope that many of our animals will ascend with us into the 4th density new earth.............

onething
03-21-2008, 05:47 PM
i just want to let you know that these things cause me great sorrow as well. it's a huge moral crime that our society has not wanted to look at. but we know it is a crime because we have ample laws to protect pets. that's why we don't look.

most of it is unnecessary because we should not be using all those crappy chemicals in our household and personal products, and artificial pharmaceuticals are not the answer to health either. we should be preventing the need for organ transplants, not perfecting the technique.

all these interrelated structures of our society are based on greed and deception. they all lean on each other.

that is why babylon must fall.

AmelieJolie
03-22-2008, 12:06 AM
all these interrelated structures of our society are based on greed and deception. they all lean on each other.
absolutely.

johnasmodeus
03-22-2008, 08:04 PM
actually, aj, the negative entities (that have polarized to the point of harvestability) understand true, infinite love to a greater extent than most in 3rd density. the difference is that they have a different focus for that love than you or we do. their focus is on themselves instead of others.

it is easy to look at those who choose another way and assume that they are somehow less knowledgable than we are. it is a stereotype that our media likes to repeat, but it is not necessarily true.

soup
03-30-2008, 03:32 PM
...their focus is on themselves instead of others...

this reminds me of how people's experience of love can vary on an individual basis and the largely unreciprocal nature of love. if i imagine my ultimate, ultimate experience of love - how incredible that seems and then imagine that percieved as simply trivial, simply ho-hum, simply inferior - then i am struck into such humility somehow. it can seem sad or else a basis for sorrow, and i cope by the realization that each of us has a personal experience of love that comes largely through some internal process that is helped along by others but is not necessarily the same as that experienced by others - hence, an unreciprocal nature.

more fundamentally seems a nature of trade. that a perfect trade seems pointless: an apple for an apple. some realize this and work to attain a trade surplus - and they get fat. why should love be any different? at some point there is such abundance that there's nothing left to do but give it all away. yes, there seems inherent trade disparity as a general principle in the universe. this complements the idea of the veil. and the sun showers its rays upon us for little return, so why not we give some praise there?


soup

wisdom
03-30-2008, 05:00 PM
there is a built in failsafe for negative polarity entities to switch to the positive polarity. it is impossible to move above the 5th density unless you acknowledge the law of unity. :)

therefore, a negative entity (service to self at the expense of other self) must switch to the positive in order to reach 6th density (balance of service to self and service to other self) or higher.

this often involves going back to a 3d school and repeating the evolution on the positive polarity.

blessings of infinite love,

wisdom

soup
04-06-2008, 02:41 PM
...this often involves going back to a 3d school and repeating the evolution on the positive polarity....

sometimes i wonder if the same is true for the positive polarity - that the potential is for a very rapid ascension - to a point is reached where within the higher densities an incongruence is confronted which without some understanding (i.e. via 3d experience) it becomes difficult to progress. so i'd propose that such "positive wanderers" can seem sorrowful because part of the intent to return within 3d experience is to tangle in some way with negative influences in a way that allows them to have experiences in a way that can help them evolve through some higher densitiy threshold - easier.


soup

soup
07-20-2008, 01:13 PM
...4th density negative entities have got no right to cause suffering over "lower", developing entities....

i'm reminded of a buddhist concept of suffering as related to some noble truth, that of impermanence. i think that in this case, the notion of suffering can seem subtle. part of it relates to the idea of loathing change, such loathing stemming from a fear of growing miserable in some way by change. so if people can grow conscious in some way of such subtle suffering, related to impermanence and loathing, they may be taking steps towards liberating themselves from such suffering because the suffering (in the form of loathing) is replaced/displaced) by optimism.

this may be an example of how subtle 4d can seem as compared to a groser 3d descriptions. as such, maybe 4d influences pertain to attitudes held more than circumstance, though difficult to say for sure.


soup