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AmelieJolie
03-20-2008, 06:02 PM
A friend of mine was reading the Law Of One material from a different website. She was surprised to find I had been reading it too when I posted the link on it.
She told me, however, that she had stopped reading it when she came to a part in which the questioner asked what could be done about psychic attack. I haven't got to this part myself, so I'm not sure what session it was. But apparently the response was that the person should imagine the dark entity before them, and absorb it.
Now, I've heard that this can be extremely dangerous unless the person involved knows EXACTLY what he/ she is doing.
I must admit this did put me off a bit, I even lost some sleep over it because I got thinking about the things some of the Law of One people went through......to which I don't think "accelerated karma", from my viewpoint, explains it. I have a sightly different perspective of "free will" to most, since I don't think we are free at all until we begin to awaken, and to awaken simply means that we see all beings as interconnected, therefore there is no desire to do harm. Until we awaken, it's just as if we are caught up within this dream, not knowing we are dreaming.
Chris Hamilton
03-20-2008, 06:55 PM
From Emily: A friend of mine was reading the Law Of One material from a different website
Awww, could be that the particular website may be distorting the original message maybe? As a hint, check out the site your friend is quoting, and then go from there, using your discernment. Part of LoO philosophy is to think your own thoughts and not take others word. Check it out and then come to your own conclusion. Good start thread Emily ;) Thanks, Chris
Silvanus Sanctus Germanus
03-21-2008, 06:04 AM
[QUOTE= I have a sightly different perspective of "free will" to most, since I don't think we are free at all until we begin to awaken, and to awaken simply means that we see all beings as interconnected, therefore there is no desire to do harm. Until we awaken, it's just as if we are caught up within this dream, not knowing we are dreaming.[/QUOTE]
I agree, I compare it to when an entety is consciously dreaming, having choices to make, determining the outcome. This realisation could slowly spill over to our daily illusion, and eventualy, to all dimentions.
Another way of pointing it out is, serrendering the concept of the self/me/and myself to the realisation of WE as ALL.
Perhaps the Dream, or what keeps a soul from awakening, is the Identification with the Illusion. Like you said Emily, maybe seperateness puts a limitation on Free Will. Makes a lot of sense to me.
Sylvain
Through the Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow, may the light shine !!!
AmelieJolie
03-21-2008, 07:21 AM
Thanks, Chris.
The actual place she came across the Law of One material was here:
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~boyne/welcome2.html#Contents
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~boyne/ra/transfers.html
But she must have gone into the Law of One main website to study further......
Perhaps, if you can't bring to mind the part she was talking about- perhaps it is something she either misread, or read somewhere else and confused it with the Law of One material?
I have just finished reading book two, I will be going onto the third book shortly. If I do find the part she referred to, I will copy and paste it here for discussion.
Love.
Chris Hamilton
03-21-2008, 08:44 AM
From Amelie: She told me (Amelie's friend), however, that she had stopped reading it when she came to a part in which the questioner asked what could be done about psychic attack. I haven't got to this part myself, so I'm not sure what session it was. But apparently the response was that the person should imagine the dark entity before them, and absorb it.
I think that maybe she mis-interpreted, because the LoO material suggests sending the negative greeting love/light and wishing it well on its way. So, you might want to read the exact part where she got her info ;)
The site you linked to is Jody's phone home ET site and has been around for a long time. The second link, in fact, quotes LoO and has received permission (check that out at the top) to do so from llresearch.org , where the complete 5 books may be found online for free. Chris
AmelieJolie
03-21-2008, 08:51 AM
Thanks.
If anyone finds the session number she was referring to before I do, please post it here. I will then ask her if this is the particular part of the material she was referring to.
billybobbutterball
03-26-2008, 11:08 AM
Thanks.
If anyone finds the session number she was referring to before I do, please post it here. I will then ask her if this is the particular part of the material she was referring to.
Hi,Emily
My you have been busy lately! Throwing more questions than can be readily fielded.
I couldn't immediatly locate the item you mentioned, but here are some snippets from a chapter transcript in the magnificent body of post-Ra material channelings.
(for those who might not know, After the extra-ordinary fine-tuned RA contact was lost a different level was made available ...Q'uo is a principle formed by Ra and the 5th density "student" Latwii, and 4th D., Hatton, to safely communicate via non-trance with Carla, Jim, and qualified others on hand.
## LLResearch Sept. 7, 2003
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G: If no else has one, (questions) Q’uo, before, during the beginning of the round-robin discussions, I was becoming very jittery, very nervous, my heart was beating hard, and I was becoming extremely cold and I have a hunch that its beyond standard nervousness. I was wondering if I was the subject of a psychic greeting?
We are those of Q’uo, and are aware of your query, my brother. In the manner of your speaking, this is correct. We are also aware that you are cognizant of the internality of such greeting. That is, that it comes from that portion of the self that is the mirror of those energies, for the self indeed contains all energies that are possible to express. Consequently, there was indeed that which you may call a greeting and it was indeed of the psychic type and at the same time we encourage the awareness that such greetings are not those of enemy energies. Those greetings are of that which feels unloved. So we encourage the response of opening the arms and hugging to the heart that shadow, that coldness, that jitteriness and accepting and loving it as it is. We suggest that this shall tend to balance and integrate these energies that seem to be attacking, so that they may become those energies that support and defend the self.
further:
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The very stuff of your density is love. The overriding lesson of your density is love. And yet, it is not a romantic love, it is not the love of brothers, it is not any love that you can imagine or speak of or wrap your words around and contain. It is that love which is the infinite Word. It is that love which is the one infinite Creator. It is that love that destroys and creates equally, generously and eternally. The concepts of love and wisdom seem separate, yet they are simply two shadows within illusion. That truth which lies beyond all illusion is the infinite love of the one Creator. Consequently, when you are attempting to learn love without end, sacrificing, giving, crucifying the self for others to the extreme of the myths of humankind for describing unconditional love, this is but one aspect of love. There is the aspect of love also wrapped in fear, in negativity, in contraction, in darkness, in the shadows, in the depths within the self that gives substance and structure to the whole and creates within infinite light and unconditional love a place, a habitation, not for the soul only but for physical vehicles, for physical feelings, experiences and intensities [as well]. In other words, one of the blessed aspects of third-density incarnation is the ability to feel pain, the ability to be confused, the very precious ability to lose the self and to be forced out of the mental constructs of a lifetime of learned untruths and half truths that your outer civilization offers to each of you.
It may seem perverse for the self to cheer for the self when the self realizes it is greatly confused and stumbling and wandering, as the one known as S has said, and yet this too is a blessing. It is the blessing of opportunity. It is the blessing of darkness. For each of you has within you the potential to be a light that enlightens the darkness, that illumines the shadows, not chasing them away but simply exposing them for what they are. Darkness is rounded in light and light rounded in darkness. That is the way of your circadian cycle. Yet we ask you to see beyond the light and the dark, to see into the nature of your lessons, of your service, of love itself. To see that which is “beyond variation [1],” as this instrument read in her church service this morning. The Creator comes from light with no variation due to change. There is no change in the One Who is all things. Change is an illusion, which is very helpful in the process of the Creator knowing Itself, and for this process the Creator has given Itself to you, to this instrument, to all, in discrete, illusory sparks of light that can experience, and register that experience, and feel and create from those feelings a process of refining and deepening and purifying, until those emotions become truth. And that which before was the babbling of children, becomes, in the ordered experience of the true and deep emotion, a giving of the self that is a harvest of a lifetime. For as the truer, deeper emotions begin to be refined from the welter of shallow feeling, those emotions begin to contain information which is as food to the Creator, a delightful and refreshing food that informs the Creator of Itself.
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Hope that helps .... BBBB
AmelieJolie
03-26-2008, 11:24 AM
Absolutely brilliant finds, BBB. :)
Thank you.
I'm going to print that out!
My you have been busy lately! Throwing more questions than can be readily fielded.
LOL. :D
mellisamouse
03-26-2008, 03:53 PM
I face these things just like you would a scared dog or a racoon, if you freak out, THEY will freak out, but if you say for example, " hi (racoon/dog/unknown thing) it's ok, your ok, and talk to it lovingly, it may still be bit scared, but it will wonder away peacefully instead of say barking/growling at, or intimidating you. ;)
Mongolian
03-26-2008, 04:17 PM
Hi.. I'm new and happy to be involved. The subject of "psychic attacks" has popped up in front of my eyes frequently these past few days, so I wish to reply from my own experiences. The best defense has been to hold a perfect Sense of Harmlessness in one's heart and mind, as did Christ.
AmelieJolie
03-27-2008, 12:52 AM
I face these things just like you would a scared dog or a racoon, if you freak out, THEY will freak out, but if you say for example, " hi (racoon/dog/unknown thing) it's ok, your ok, and talk to it lovingly, it may still be bit scared, but it will wonder away peacefully instead of say barking/growling at, or intimidating you. ;)
There is a great story called "what was I scared of?" by Dr Seuss. It is about a pair of scary green pants, "with nobody inside them". My 4 year old loves it.
Has anybody else read it? :)
AmelieJolie
03-27-2008, 02:15 AM
Hi.. I'm new and happy to be involved. The subject of "psychic attacks" has popped up in front of my eyes frequently these past few days, so I wish to reply from my own experiences. The best defense has been to hold a perfect Sense of Harmlessness in one's heart and mind, as did Christ.
Thank you, Mongolian. :)
AmelieJolie
03-27-2008, 06:36 AM
what was i scared of
by Dr Seuss
well.... i was walking in the night
and i saw nothing scary
for i have never been afraid of anything.
not very
then i was deep within the woods
when suddenly i spied them.
i saw a pair of pale green pants
with nobody inside them.
i wasn't scared but yet i stopped.
what could those pants be there for
what could a pair of pants at night
be standing in there for?
and then they moved those empty pants!
they kind of started jumping.
and then my heart i must admit
i kind of started thumping.
so i got out i got out
as fast as i could go sir
i was not scared but pants like that
i do no care for no sir.
after that a week went by.
then one dark night in Grinitch
i had to do an errand there and
fetch some Grinitch spinach.
i was starting back through town
when those raced around a corner and
they almost knocked me down.
i lost my Grinitch spinach
but i did nor even care
i ran home believe me
i really had a scare
now bicycles were never made for
pale green pants to ride 'em
especially spooky pale green pants
with no body inside 'em
and next night i was fishing
for doubt trout on rover river
when those pants came rowing toward me
i really started into shiver
and by now i was so frightened
that i'll tell you but i hate to
i screamed and rowed away and lost
my hook and line and bait too!
i ran and found a brickle bush
i hid myself away
i got prickles in my britches
but i stayed there anyway
i stayed all night, the next night too
i'd still be there no doubt
but i had to do an errand
so the next night i went out
i had to do an errand
had to pick a peck of snide
in a dark and gloomy snide field
that was almost 9 miles wide
i said i do not fear those pants
with nobody inside them
i said and said and said those words
i said them but i lied them
then i reached inside a snide bush
and the next that i knew
i felt my hand touch someone
and i bet that you know who
and there i was caught in the snide
and in that dreadful place
those spooky empty pants and i
were standing face to face
i yelled for help i screamed i shreiked
i howled i yowled i cried.
oh save me from those pale green pants
with nobody inside them.
but then a strange thing happened
why those pants began to cry
those pants began to tremble
they were just as scared as i
i never heard such whimpering
and i began to see
that i was just as strange to them
as they were strange to me.
i put my arm around their waist
and sat right down beside them
i calmed them down
poor empty pants
with nobody inside them
and now we meet quite often
those empty pants and i
and we never shake or tremble
we both smile and we say
"hi"
mellisamouse
03-27-2008, 05:14 PM
What a cute story, and soooooo true! :)
Even with bee's, wasps etc it is ALLWAYS the same principle.
I have never been afraid of them, so they comeover and say "hi", I say "hi" back, and they go off on their way...the people who get stung are the ones who freak out, and start swatting their arms around etc.
I have also seen some of the people with the "toughest, meanest" exteriors, to have the sweetest warmest hearts when you approach them as someone with a sweet warm heart, they do end up BEING that way....even if only towards you. ;)
AmelieJolie
03-28-2008, 02:50 AM
Thats beautiful, mellisamouse. :)
Lots of love.
...I have never been afraid of them, so they comeover and say "hi", I say "hi" back, and they go off on their way....
There's mention of these flying things in book 5 - of using onions and garlic as a repellant. Its one thing to encounter them occasionally and quite another to be cohabitating with them where they are around a lot, (I say quite humbly.) One mechanism of making peace seems that of giving space to that which requires it...
soup
More and more I find the utility of reciting mantrams as a means of displacing more harmful attitudes. It may be that Jesus arrived at such perfect sense of harmless by way of some mantram...
Lately, I've been using this mantram:
"Give us this day, our daily bagel,
and lead us not into temptation..."
(I think of a bagel's shape as embodying a sense of unity.)
soup
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