Burisch Timelines 1,2

[Pinktip]

Hi Folks, New to the forum, but have been lurking about:)

http://www.projectcamelot.net/dan_burisch_summary.html

"UPDATE, January 2008:

Dan completed his 'sabattical' in mid-December 2007. While this has never been explicitly stated, it is clear to us that he was "invited back in" by the new Majestic group to assist in some critical work that was taking place over a period of several months to (among other things) evaluate progress in the ongoing handling of the timeline problem.

We should state here for the record that this is our own surmise, and that this has not been stated to us by Dan in those words. He is very constrained in what he can and can't reveal about his recent activities.

He did, however, announce in his blog in December that we were now safely off Timeline 2 (on which the catastrophe occurred in the future humans' history) and were instead now on 'Variant 83 of Timeline 1'."


Can someone explain the last paragraph regarding which timeline we are on and how we made the switch?

Thanks all!

[Ashnandoah]

This is what I found:
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Elements of the “Timeline 1 variant 83” information from the Looking Glass speak directly about Pakistan, elements which have been privately shared with certain individuals. Mrs. Bhutto was aware of that information and I am sure that played a role in her decision to return to Pakistan, from her self-imposed exile, at this critical moment for humankind.

Aside from the worldwide impact of these events, Benazir's death has impacted Dan personally, as he and his wife enjoyed very private personal written correspondence with her for many years. She was aware of what she was facing and made the decision to step forward to try to sway the normal implications of T1 (variant 83) to a more peaceful outcome. She confided in several people, before she returned to her beloved Pakistan, that she was placing the band of the martyr on her forehead, which signals her understanding that she was courting death.

[link doesn't work; can Ashnandoah re-submit? - mod]

[brentcochran]

This statement had to do with "the Doctrine of Convergent Timeline Paradox." You can get more info here:

[link previously provided by Papa T in 2012 Databank on Mar 9, DCTP thread]

Then more in his interviews with Project Camelot.

The timeline's are gathered information from people's seeing into the future using such things as the looking glass technology and also from actual contact with future humans. All the data composed together on paper composes the different timeline scenarios that we can be on. So as events play out in current time we can track which timeline we're on as with know the most likely outcome.

Ultimately it's up to us, like always, to make the choice, and our choice decides what timeline we'll be on. FREE WILL!!! But what you freely will yourself to do to is your responsibility, for you will feel the outcome.


"Who is he that shall control me? Why may not I act and speak and write and think with entire freedom? What am I to the universe, or, the universe, what is it to me? Who hath forged the chains of wrong and right, of Opinion and Custom? And must I wear them?" ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson


"That which you don't make conscious, becomes fate." ~ Carl Jung


"You never change things by fighting the existing reality…To change something...Build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller


"Grief and sorrow persist because they're not being experienced... The more you come to a balance in yourself the more you can except those same circumstances in others. And thus, when you find yourself being upset by someone's behavior. Remember that, that is only occurring because you haven't healed and balanced the issue in yourself. When you can forgive and except yourself for that which you see in someone else it will no longer be an issue, you'll no longer be agitated or frustrated by it. This is "The Great Work"." ~ David Wilcock

"I maintain that Truth is a pathless land, and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect.... I do not want to belong to any organization of a spiritual kind; please understand this ... If an organization be created for this purpose, it becomes a crutch, a weakness, a bondage, and must cripple the individual, and prevent him from growing, from establishing his uniqueness, which lies in the discovery for himself of that absolute, unconditioned Truth....

You are all depending for your spirituality on someone else, for your happiness on someone else, for your enlightenment on someone else.... You have been accustomed to being told how far you have advanced, what is your spiritual status. How childish! Who but yourself can tell you if you are incorruptible?... I desire those, who seek to understand me, to be free ... from the fear of religion, from the fear of salvation, from the fear of spirituality, from the fear of love, from the fear of death, from the fear of life itself.... You can form other organizations and expect someone else. With that I am not concerned, nor with creating new cages, new decorations for those cages. My only concern is to set men absolutely, unconditionally free.

In pure self-awareness is born the solution, "choiceless awareness" -- an acceptance that views life without resistance or prejudice, without offering itself any possible means of escape. This complete "honesty of mind" becomes a total penetration into the heart of what is. A humanity which can discriminate between the true and the false, that can face itself in all its glory, and all its shame, has begun to set itself free." - Jiddu Krishnamurti



Tons of love,

Brent

[MarkM]

Brent, this is a beautiful post..you have encapsulated and presented a hint of the purpose and spirit of this forum...good god, man, keep it coming!:D Thank you.

Mark

[Pinktip]

So our desire to go to 4th dimension has changed those 4D+ on to Timeline 1(v83)? Those on this path will experience the higher energy, awareness, awakening, we are moving into but will not experience the pole shift or Nibiru?
Am I close?:D

Thanks!

(I've only been at this level of understanding for ~3weeks and I'm
still trying to get my arms around it.)

And yes Brent, your respose captured the total essence of what we
are about! Thanks

[brentcochran]

David totally debunks the whole Nibiru theory in his 2012 lecture it's just wasn't in his video. He's also talked about it in his last video with Project Camelot and I'm sure I've heard him mention it else where.

The pole shift and dramatic earth changes are supposed to happen once we are all temporarily off the planet or atleast out of harms way. Then we'll be back on the planet in transmuted bodies! (There's more info on this else where on this site, also look into the LAW of ONE books - i.e. the ascension)

Then much later into our history we'll be experiencing such things according to the timeline, supposedly, I still suggest the idea of FREE WILL and new choices can alway be made. Dan doesn't talk about the whole dimensional shift, he specifically says that in one of his earlier interviews.

Watch David's 2012 video and pay close attention to when he starts talking about the looking glass technology and the ORION CUBE, about 55 minutes in to it. That is Dan Burisch's same looking glass technology that he talks about dealing with the timeline's.

"An interlacing of images (Timeline 1 and Timeline 2) occurs as they use the looking glass, since the 1980's, that has forced them to have a whole server farm just to deconstruct the images so they can see what they're looking at in the future (2012). When they look into 2009-2012 the frequency of interlacing gets higher and higher the closer they get to 2012. (the interlacing is the different timelines). " -exerpt with my commentary from 2012 Enigma

"We have multiple parrellel futures that we can choose... 2012 literally does represent create your own reality time. It has everything to do with what you expect is going to happen. This is where thoughts becoming reality take on a whole new meaning that you've never heard of before." - David Wilcock (The 2012 Enigma)


I hope this clears it up for you.


* Thank you for the kind words


Tons of love,

Brent

[Papa T]

Nicely written Brent....:)

Pinktip, Dr Dan posted on the subject T1V83 and DCTP yesterday.
Top two post here: THE MONGRAAL'S "DROP BOX" (http://www.neweaglesforum.proboards107.com/index.cgi?board=news&action=display&thread=101&page=2)

Enjoy your Journey
Papa T

[Pinktip]

Thanks PapaT!....starting to make sense.

""...the control group actually in charge of the alien issue sequestered all the devices that can peek the future, because the asserted danger they will pose to catalyze the future 2012 event, as said by the J-Rods and Orions from the future T2 timeline."

Generally, true. (All but 1 - the "Orion Cube" which cannot catalyze the catastrophe.)

"So, how can it be that he's always assuring us that we still are in T1 - version 83? Is there any "Looking Glass" or "Cube" or "Yellow Book" still activated and in full operation?"

That number (T1v83) was from the last set of deinterlaced readings, matching both solar and geopolitical data. The LG's are shutdown, but the Orion Cube, which went officially missing in 2005, was used late last year via a third party from a location unknown to the New Group, to observe whether or not we were still moving "down the line" (so to speak) on T1v83. It showed that we are close, but not exactly on the T1v83 data. We are close enough, however, that we do not match any other variants, especially including those for T2. The Orion Cube may or may not be again used between now and the end of 2016 (the completion of the full transition), to again observe our progress. I feel it is likely that it will again be used.

"If this last case is true, the "powers to be" will use the information, that is constantly updated and obviously increasingly more accurate as we approach the fatal date, to prepare the world for the upcoming upheavals, even they will be less dramatic than those foreseen in T2 timeline?"

Yes. The key here is in the definition of "prepare." In that word is found two edges - one which shapes positively, and the other which cuts negatively. In that definition is where the current struggle between secret societies now resides.

"Thanks.
Softkiller."

No problem,

Dan "

[waver]

Hi all, I've just joined the forum after studying the web site for a while and watching David's videos.

I'm having some difficulty deciding what is true and what is disinformation in some of what David discusses. In particular, Dan Burisch's story about the looking glass technology is pretty fantastic. If we do accept that it is true, then we are faced with an ethical question. Burisch says that the reason for the Iraq war was to recover a looking glass device to prevent it from being used and putting us on an undesirable time line. He implies that going to war with Iraq was the right thing to do, since it was for the greater good.

How can we reconcile the deaths of so many people with the need to recover this piece of technology? Am I now forced to choose the lesser of two evils and say that the war was justified? That seems awfully self-serving to me, being one possible recipient of the resulting 'greater good'.

If three people find themselves in a boat with enough food for only two people, should one person be killed by the other two so they might survive? I suspect the answer is no for anyone on the path of service to others (STO). By the same token, the killing of innocents in the war with Iraq cannot be justified by an STO being, even if the alternative is ending up on an undesirable time line.

If we accept that the time line problem existed, there must have been another way to solve it. Given that killing innocent people is incompatible with the STO path, what is now the ethical response to the instigation of the war in Iraq? Is the concept of punishment consistent with the Law of One? If not, what is the appropriate response for an STO being?

[closingcross]

For humans being as innovative and as smart as we think we are, we for some reason make things very complicated. I saw all of Dan's videos and while very entertaining its nothing more than entertainment although very real to the people who believe it to be real. This is akin to taxes and accounting being real and us having no choice to pay taxes based on the rules of accounting and law. Yes I know it is more complex then this but I am trying to point something out if at all possible.

We have decided to attach names, events and arrangements such as T-1 v.83 and believe a black box which may or may not exist tell us so. Imagine the black box or looking glass technology so advanced where directors, writers ,
and producers create virtual outcome choices based on emotion of the user /operator. Like a video game with an infinity of outcomes where the observer
has no choice to deem it as true. Where Dan had paddle 1 at the time and changed the outcome. He fooled even the authorities because they believe in this LG as true to them.

Role back 100 years plop a Hi-def TV in front of a TEAM OF military researchers and show them a movie of what will be and bang you have caused them to operate based on what has been shown. We have the same situation here. Distraction and attempts to control natures course.

The sense of purpose becomes their reality which then effects actions and outcomes going forward. What I mean to say is this is all about choices. If you choose to buy the observation you will act accordingly within the majority collective belief. The collective belief is so powerful that we can not operate outside of it, as it is always being shifted by an outside source from the top of the pyramid. (Trying to control the pyramid (belief) from any other area does not work, it must be done from the top.)

That princess who wore the martyr bandanna did not have to be killed but chose to believe she would be because she had been shown something and therefore was shot. It shows priority of belief on a larger scale.

So this is why we do not have a flat tax and are enslaved by taxes and death. We tend to think we need to be led by who we think are authorities when in fact we are all the authority but do not believe we can effect our reality together. If solders would stop listening to their authorities from the top these wars will stop dead. Then what? No matter. I am guilty of the same follow the leader paradigm because I am distracted and too lazy to do anything about it or do not believe I could make a difference. ( A guilty human.)

I will say the time line T-1 v83 is where we are while at this point what other time line could we be on. So it must be true because we are told it is and believe it; for now.

We are not supposed to be toyed with but are and being we are all individuals with the ability to know awareness, it allows us to be controlled by TV, Print, LG's, Radio, parents, teachers, officials, doctors, entities, and plain old information or disinformation which is all true since we believe to be.

NOW THE TRUTH FOR MOST OF US. We better pay out taxes or our lives will be made difficult by the imposing will controllers of our society.

David is one of the true believers of free will and appreciate what he has been trying to reflect back to the collective for so many cycles in his way.

Dan on the other hand is not Dan according to Dan and apologize to him for allowing him to be put in the position he has been because we were to distracted to allow him the life he was supposed to have this time around.

On this time line we have 13 cycles left and hope we get it right to show we
deserve to be involved in the creation. May we not allow us to be unwound because of our imperfections.

Sorry I went off on a tangent, it just came out as I am tired and old.

Love to you all.

[closingcross]

T-1 V.83 is where we should be based on that belief in the technology. Dan had the control for that second to convince the observers of the outcome. When they (j-Rod) figure out it is only a produced technology the joke will be on them.


We are more powerful then any box they look into and really believe it to be reality. basically to say they want to fit the square peg into the square box when its just not that simple. Look at our own emotion irrationality.

Like a hi-def TV these technologies do nothing more than show an outcome which has not happened. We can not know what will happen as it is only a speculation where they could have a great deal to lose to US, which is what they are trying to avoid.

Being we are emotional they can only try to direct us to lose. They are so linear to even attempt to try and control the eventual outcome will cause them more complications.

We were given the gift which they are trying to control but can not. I will explain more another time. My last post was wiped out.

[mellisamouse]

All I can think of as a response is....."there is nothing to fear, but fear itself," and "Don't worry, be happy"....who cares what any other single individual thinks of or plans for the future. The only one that should matter is how YOU plan yours....I personally see the future is so bright, I gotta wear shades, and the only real "difficulties" that are actually getting less and less now, are personal battles with ourselves.....

BUT, then again, this is just MY feelings on my future.....a beautiful place indeed......I could write a book about it's beauty and never ending opportunity for creation......oh, the artists dream! :)

[Acerzw]

Hi

I have been following this thread with interest. I have a question which I have been pondering, in Dan's Project Camelot interviews he mentions the future timelines and states that the J-Rods and Nordics visit from a future timeline. In my understanding the Law of One material states that this planet will not exist/not be habitable in the third density. Supposing this planet did become 4th density in 2012, my question is then how is it possible for the future people to visit us? Are they coming from a 4th density future, as 3rd density Earth is supposed to cease to be inhabited in 2012, or are they coming from say Mars in the 3rd density after 2012, can anyone explain what the current thinking is?

A

[mellisamouse]

Hi

I have been following this thread with interest. I have a question which I have been pondering, in Dan's Project Camelot interviews he mentions the future timelines and states that the J-Rods and Nordics visit from a future timeline. In my understanding the Law of One material states that this planet will not exist/not be habitable in the third density. Supposing this planet did become 4th density in 2012, my question is then how is it possible for the future people to visit us? Are they coming from a 4th density future, as 3rd density Earth is supposed to cease to be inhabited in 2012, or are they coming from say Mars in the 3rd density after 2012, can anyone explain what the current thinking is?

A


I am guessing they must be 3rd density people who did not graduate to 4th density this time around, who may be trying to help their own future acsension proccess, at their next opportunity, so they must be some of the people that stayed behind for more learning?

[Acerzw]

According to the Law of One and David, all beings on the planet are harvested at the 2012 nexus, anyone who does not make 4th density, would I think, be incarnated to another planet since the earth would not be habitable in 3rd density, so I think the future visitors cannot be from Earth?

Also I note that the powers at be, the controlling factions on the Earth, who Dan works for, are planning for well beyond 2012. Why would they do this if their advanced technology showed them that they would be harvested at the 2012 nexus? Surely there would be no point?

As an example, the UN has apparently been told by an alien race (I am assuming the Nordics) that they have to prepare the people of Earth for the idea of aliens being real, with the aim of an alien embassy being established in 2012, and that the aliens will make themselves know in 2017 with or without Government approval... The alien treatise which Dan talks about appear to deal with times beyond 2012... so why would they ignore the 2012 nexus?

A

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

Imagine a chess match of the ages, the winners get to glorify their version of "Reality". We, as the audience, buy in to the illusion, voluntarily, and tune in for the experience.

The Ones that take IT too seriously, get sucked in and "forget" to "remember" their own Will. Some unconsciously enforce the "Forgetness" stripping Free Will from the conscious "Mind".

The players are Masters in the Illusion. They gather up our LifeForce and direct it as they see fit.

At the end of the Match, the "Game" is recognised for what it is. An awaken being CAN simply pick up the peices of "Will", make our-selves whole again, and then make good use of the gift of "Creation".;)



Sylvain


Through the Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow, may the light shine !!!

[waver]

Also I note that the powers at be, the controlling factions on the Earth, who Dan works for, are planning for well beyond 2012. Why would they do this if their advanced technology showed them that they would be harvested at the 2012 nexus? Surely there would be no point?A

I can see some evidence that the powers that be in the US and other countries may be actively preparing for near-term major catastrophic events. This suggests that they don't believe that they will participate in a "harvest". Otherwise, what would be the point of such preparation.

Many people think that the war in Iraq is all about power and the control of oil in the world. Apparently, the exercise of this power may some day also extend to the American people, since the president has given himself the right to override congress in a time of emergency. It may all be just about power, but why would economic collapse be part of the plan? The US is said to be bankrupt already, if other countries were to call in the debt.

An alternative to the mere raw power motive is the expectation of a major event that might cause world-wide chaos. Martial law would be needed quickly to control society. The event would cause a complete breakdown of social structure as well as the collapse of the monetary system. Since money would have no value, international debts would be wiped out. So why not spend money like water now? Such a societal breakdown might follow the occurrence of a world-wide natural disaster such as a supernova in the neighbourhood, a large solar coronal mass ejection, massive earthquakes and volcanic activity, a polar shift, a pandemic, etc., any of which could send survivors back to the stone age. Perhaps they have reason to believe that such an event has a very high probability of occurring. The ability to declare martial law quickly may be seen as necessary.

DW believes that such utter chaos will not happen, and he may well be right. However, others who feel the need to control world events seem to be preparing for the worst. For example, an unnamed politician in Norway says that his country has huge underground caverns to protect a subset of the population from a future disaster.

http://www.projectcamelot.net/norway_update.html

Canada and the US have just agreed to allow each other's soldiers onto each other's soil in times of emergency. There has never been a need for this. Why is such an agreement considered necessary now?

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=403d90d6-7a61-41ac-8cef-902a1d14879d&k=14984

So some people appear to believe that tough times are in our future, and escape by "ascending" is not a serious option for them.

[truthspupl]

Hi All,

I am so pleased to be here. I am new to this forum but am honored to be a part of it.

First of all I must ask,

"Where might I find David Wilcock speaking about a PHYSICAL removal of human bodies from the planet as a HARVEST in 2012?"

I ask this because, my understanding of 4th density is obviously 'VERY DIFFERENT' from those here? To my understanding it is merely an ENERGETIC change to a HIGHER vibration and the physical body is STILL needed or at least is still maintained if the desire to inhabit it is still present? It is not until the 5th density and up that the 'vehicle' is no longer needed, to my understanding anyway.

Brent's post on the first page of this thread is BEAUTIFUL! Due to my understanding I believe that the Beauty of that post is that it EXPLAINS 4th Density very well..... please correct me if I am mistaken as I wish to understand. :o

As far as the technology goes, I have posted in the DCTP thread, I believe, about my husband who has seen and witnessed this technology(the Looking Glass) in it's early stages of where it is today.... so the technology is TRUTH. It DOES exist but I cannot say what it has become since my husband witnessed it back in 1972.

NAMASTE

[Magical_Mongoose]

I'm fairly certain we've already passed through the needles eye. I had a lucid dream a couple of years ago where I was told that a timeline deviation occurred in 2004, solidifying a non-cataclysmic timeline. When I asked the people at this meeting what year it was, they said it was 2032...leading me to believe the 20-year cycle between 2012 and 2032 will be where the majority of consciousness shifts occur. Yet I could be completely incorrect.
According to Burisch and other sources, the technicians noted that when the LG was projected post-2012 all they received was white static. In my opinion, the period of unfoldment that 2012 symbolizes was deliberately veiled by hyper-dimensional STO forces to ensure further timeline hackings won't occur during this crucial period. It also suggests a beautiful expansion of consciousness that throws the chart off the graph in such a way to render even the LG useless.

[lrepoza@cox.net]

There is now a brand new update on the project camelot website for this subject posted on 04/11/2008
Peace

[Pinktip]

I posted this in the other time line thread...

"My question is with Burisch's statements.....
IF all this MJ12 stuff (or whatever it is now) is so secret, why is he allowed back in and then out again to tell all?

Any info appreciated. Thanks!"