6DSoul groups mainly "male"

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hello

sweden is a country with a strong feministic movement, not mainly spiritually inclined though and i'm no more involved or any other party-politics, but i'm constantly disturbed by the "male" vocabulary that runs through all religions and even the ra-material, at least the introduction that i have not finished yet.

also when i listen to the readings i have had an unconscious "picture" of the channeling as coming from a male, or a group of males if you wish.

are we really ready to transcend to 4d when the unbalance between mars and venus is so incredibly big.

interesting enough, in swedish "man" = "människa" and that is female=hon/she. i don't say that this is better, but it balances at least somewhat the unbalance that already resides on mother earth.

liliane

[Firewalker]

the ra group is the group of souls from venus that are all fused together. i doubt there is a significant male or female ratio.

[Lorik]

i used to wonder about this as well, until i discovered that when it comes to universal ideas such as "male" and "female", the subject becomes relative. male is simply that-which-gives, or the source. female is that-which-recieves.

in that way, beings and entities that are more potent than us, more powerful, are more masculine than we are. that's not to say that there's not an entity or plane that is more masculine than they are.

when it comes to higher planes and entites in general, all of them will be considered by far more masculine than we are, even if they appear as feminine.

the analogy of male = alpha and female = omega puts things into perspective as well. we must have both to create infinity.

and once again, i'm only repeating what i've found and confirmed through the gnosis that i'm blessed enough to come upon and resonate with. i'd love to hear more opinions and stances.

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hi firewalker

that was veeeery interesting....solves part of a question i've asked elsewhere regarding venus and orion.

thanks l

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hi lorik

that name sounds very nordic, "loriks-polskan" is a folk/dance/fiddletune from dalana in sweden.

yes that's the jungian concept that i highly agree upon, animus and anima.

liliane

[Steve Renwick]

hello liliane,
as muse reminded me in response to my first post, nothing contains or embodies meaning in or of itself. living in duality we tend to condition reality by making connections between two perceived opposites, thus constructing a sort of mental framework to work with. this building of constructs is a left brain dominated activity in our current reality and thus reflects down from there through our perceptions and activities. this framework is informed through emotion or feeling, a predominately right brain activity, and also reflects down in a similar way. inevitably, as we grow and move on to bigger, better informed, less dualistic frameworks of understanding, our old constructs will dissolve away into the sea of unconditioned oneness from whence they came. i hope this perspective helps you to become more comfortable with what you perceive.

have fun,
steve

[lala]

i felt a big desire of writing here to add a shared feeling of difficulty in dealing with the 3d gender differences... and i wanted to ask some patience for those wo are in a different level of understanding of the galactic and non physical ways...

some very hard pesonal experiences added to the everyday aknowlegement of other worldwide women difficulties have builted a kind of a wall of behaviors protection in my 3d ways of being ...

in each text that i read (those that i came to know after finding this site) i feel like a release from the needing of this protection, and more, i am beginning to realise my own responsability in perpetuating the unwanted situation by the simple fact of being against and angry about it... and this is profoundly hard work!

so, in other words, we cannot run if we are learning to walk, but we will!!!!!! and, if in the process of learning, we fall, sometimes, by puting out some needing of being protected by our own questions or words, it is understendable ....... it is not easy to be a woman in these times.....
of course i am speaking as a south american woman wo have lived in france (i got my masters degree there) and wo have known how subtil and difficult our society prejudices structure can be sometimes....

please... be patient... and never take it personnaly.... it might be that we are some brave souls that accepted to be here at this time in a feminine body to bring back the diginity on the balance to us all! (i'm leaving the karma stuff behind for the clarity of the exemple)

lots of love to all

[Metamike]

"also when i listen to the readings i have had an unconscious "picture" of the channeling as coming from a male, or a group of males if you wish."

spirit is androgen - incarnating in both male and female bodies to integrate the two. the physical manifestation of male and female is an illusion that creates artificial boundaries - as well as lots of drama.

in the east we have yin and yang. in hawaii we have huna - hu and na are each the female and male principles in an integrated form - this is the secret within the secret.

mike from norway:)

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hi every-body

feel like i'm to playing "the sync" all day long...
after posting this new thread i checked my space.com-mail and what's the top-story "surprising similarities btw mars and venus found" the seemingly contrasting planets of selfhelpbookfame have more in common than you might think venus atmosphere is thick, dry and hot, mars is thin and cold, yet the same processes are happening....

firewalker

when it comes to the ra-group and venus i just shout hur-ra-h! could you please inform me about orion also. is there a connection there:confused: positive?/negative/neutral? still wondering because of a song i wrote. have read about a group called "the nordics".....

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[billybobbutterball]

hi, liliane

i noted your post concerning the female/male issue on another thread, was going to reply to it there, but as an after thought stuck it here.:cool:

i'll post this at the thread you mentioned.

the whole female/male issue has been an ongoing thorne in my side ever since i was three. (when an older woman -- she was three and half -- introduced me to the "facts of life")

when i was about seven or eight the leader of our gang was an attractive, athletic girl who could out-run, out-think out-fight any punk in the neighborhood (hard to imagine that she is now a great grandmother who tenderly cuddles her offspring) she and other alpha females in my life inclined me to support many aspects of feminism. but the movement of feminism -- as too often expressed -- has been disclosed to be engineered by the illuminati in order to engineer a break down in social structure. (google, henry makow )

i think i had some mistaken concept of women that bordered on their being essentially other-worldly refined men with the addition of long hair and interesting thingamajigies. of course they were made of sugar and spice in contrast to boys who were made of snakes and snails and puppy dog tails.

once upon a time i married a beautiful girl who was 15 years younger than myself. (however, our mental ages were the exact reverse.) she got dragged into joining me in my obssesive hobby. (her mother advised her, "annie, if you can't beat him, join him.

at first her desire of remaining in the background and supporting me was a quite feminine instinct... but i didn't appreciate that. i got a kick out of seeing her excell in competition, and in the process take men down a peg or two whenever this petite little girl would beat us at our own game. within our little conclave she became world famous. her picture appeared in magazines around the world (circa 1970 she was on hand at the world championships held in sweden; in the 80's she was inducted into a "hall of fame)

i thought she would enjoy the fame, but all this publicity and attention distressed her... it went against her nature. hey, remember, i was supposed to be the one out in front, not her. i just didn't understand in time.

there should be no enmity between males and females any more than that between plus and minus on a battery ... which constitutes the potential principle that makes nifty things go ... working together, not short circuiting! the two poles are different, but how could one be considered more important than the other?

still struggling to figure it all out.:confused:

best, billybobbledit









hello buttonball!

well thanks for the support, i have as we say in sweden an "industrial injury" from doing stand-up. how come you associated to the male/femaleissue here? have i misread something? i actually started a new thread about 6d and gender, well never mind, i think i've been posting a bit too much, tomorrow i'll take a break and go to my paradisland with my shorthaired collie to do some sungazing.

liliane

[Firewalker]

lol,

well hur-ra-h

there are other law of one seekers here that question could be addressed to, although i am pleased with the attention.

the orion group are pointed to by those of ra as being the main negative group for our galaxy. those of orion which put a negative influence into the group of don, carla and jim.

don't know anything about the nordics personally. although one of the negative planets ra did mention was casseiopeia. as one of our negative earth dudes graduating to. if you go to the channelings from casseiopeia, you will find what the negative polarity channelings reflect.

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hi firewalker

casseiopeia was the 1:st constellation i learned, always commenting on it. there is a symbology to casseiopeia that she is a demoted queen, waiting to obtain redress....

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[Ceara]

higher beings are neither male nor female.

however, they can choose to project either a masculine or feminine energy depending on their intention.

[yossarian]

i don't remember ra ever identifying or referring to itself as one gender over the other.

if you perceive ra to be male, i think that is something of your own creation rather than anything ra is providing. ra is certainly very logical and attempts to speak in a highly precise way. our society considers this to be a male trait, but that is not ra.

the simple fact of the matter is that no matter how much human society tries to ignore the gender differences, every person is still aware of them on a subconscious level and their awareness and belief in these gender differences is constantly betrayed by their behavior.

if we wish to increase the influence of feminine principles in society it won't be done by creating taboos on masculinity as many seem to hint at.

[metaphysics]

cheers mate, im from sweden to, so i know exaclly what you mean..

correct me if i'm wrong, but male/female is only a biological thing? i mean, souls are souls, neither male or female, but only the psyche and the biology is actually male or female "vessels" if you will..

[Tim_R]

hello liliane,
inevitably, as we grow and move on to bigger, better informed, less dualistic frameworks of understanding, our old constructs will dissolve away into the sea of unconditioned oneness from whence they came.

my understanding also is that the "he" in spiritual texts refers to the non-dualistic world of spirit, and has nothing to do with this illusion. i have been a student of "a course in miracles" for the last 6+ years, and somewhere along the line i ran into some material related to the course that said that people who focus on the gender distinction in the spiritual "he" actually have some unresolved forgiveness issues that center around gender. as a person deals with their own unforgiveness in various parts of their life they move to a place of nuetrality about these issues.

cheers!