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Christian
01-23-2001, 07:27 AM
hello david and all here present,
hope you are all well wherever you are.
big bone for us all to throw around and have a gnaw at!
i hope this comes out ok as the guy in my next door apartment is
knocking off tiles and doing diy, constant hammering, anyway...
i have been thinking about this program i saw on tv over here in the uk
and have been trying to resolve the stuff in the program to what we know
from davids work.
the program is horizon and it was about black holes. please feel free
to correct me on anything in this posting as my knowledge in this area
is like a soup bowl, wide and shallow:)
the bottom line is this: they have discovered recently, last few months,
that there is a black hole at the center of every galaxy as shown in the
program and detailed obs of andromeda galaxy and its black hole which
has recently started feeding again and will eventually in millions of
years crash into our own and form one big galaxy. that's something else
entirely!
in the program the black holes at the center of galaxies are in 2 states
feeding or dormant and this changes from time to time, ours is dormant
at present. so if some new matter strays into a dormant bh then then it
can give it the momentum to start spiraling round and round again and
therefore 'feeding' on the matter surrounding it like a big whirlpool.
now in the center of the bh is the singularity, i'm gonna make some big
leaps here so bear with me. so i start to think, all these
singularity's in the universe at the center of galaxy's everywhere being
part of galaxy formation. the energy spewing out in a spindle for
millions of miles into space like the pic on david's site.
i have thoughts about the singularity and what it is what is there and
all that stuff, and the program showed what would happen on a journey
there but could not say what happens in the singularity for obvious
reasons, our current laws of physics do not permit this understanding.
so i got to thinking about what if the singularities were all connected
in some way, i cannot even begin to imagine how or where or why i just
have an idea. they also had this physics guru type person professor
something introduced as the greatest new mind in physics since einstein,
and he was saying that the universe is in a delicate balance between
being the universe and being nothing or void. it is expanding faster
and faster away from everything else since the big bang. that is to say
the universe and everything is accelerating away from everything else he
also said that if there is unlimited expansion and acceleration the
universe would simply become nothing again. he was getting at the
universe being a pulsating thing like a light going on and off but in
much, much bigger scale terms, hard to get your head round stuff. i try
understand the balance of matter and energy in a galaxy like an hour
glass, the sand grains at the top in our galaxy and universe, the narrow
hole the bh and below where the sand falls, who knows? or does the sand
get spewed back up through the hole but at a higher energy level so we
can't see or detect it, so it could be like 2 universes in the same
space but it supports the overall balance of energy in the universe.
all that matter, energy and whole galaxies and solar systems getting
sucked in in an instant, where does it go? as i watched the fantastic
models and animation's in the program i was astounded at the scale of
things. it seems that the black holes in the universe are the things
that regulate the balance of matter and energy in the universe at any
given time, but how? maybe this is a case of me with the narrowest mind
making the broadest statements. i don't know?
it's something that has been bugging me for a few weeks now and i wanted
to share with you for discussion, as it's a very interesting discovery.
do all the singularity's connect to the higher dimensions or something?
i also listened to the laura lee show you did david about the aether and
it was great, i started to wonder how this all ties in with bh.
i would be most interested to hear your thoughts david and anyone else,
please forgive my ignorance in what i have said, and enlighten me where
necessary, be kind.
the singularity is something i think we can work with as we're in
uncharted territory, it would be nice to hear some ideas on this stuff
as the physicist's don't know.
look forward to reading anyone's thoughts
love and light to you all
christian.

David Wilcock
01-23-2001, 10:12 AM
<table bgcolor="#ffffff">
><font face="arial" size="2">two brief points which will be in the new book: </font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">1. nix the big bang.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">2. nix black holes at the center of galaxies. </font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">black holes may very well exist but this is the only explanation for the</font>
><font face="arial" size="2">necessary gravitational mass at the center of galaxies. they have been</font>
><font face="arial" size="2">inferred from the data but not observed. </font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">the new science is continuous creation. galaxies' centers are actually</font>
><font face="arial" size="2">flowering anew, as per halton arp's work - do a net search on alltheweb.com</font>
><font face="arial" size="2">with "arp" and "redshift" and you'll turn over stuff soon enough. </font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">sorry i can't say more right now. the only "payment" that you all have to</font>
><font face="arial" size="2">fork over is the time to wait before this new book is ready. </font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">peace be with you -</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" size="2">- david</font>
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<tt>hello david and all here present,
hope you are all well wherever you are.
big bone for us all to throw around and have a gnaw at!
i hope this comes out ok as the guy in my next door apartment is
knocking off tiles and doing diy, constant hammering, anyway...
i have been thinking about this program i saw on tv over here in the uk
and have been trying to resolve the stuff in the program to what we know
from davids work.
the program is horizon and it was about black holes. please feel free
to correct me on anything in this posting as my knowledge in this area
is like a soup bowl, wide and shallow:)
the bottom line is this: they have discovered recently, last few months,
that there is a black hole at the center of every galaxy as shown in the
program and detailed obs of andromeda galaxy and its black hole which
has recently started feeding again and will eventually in millions of
years crash into our own and form one big galaxy. that's something else
entirely!
in the program the black holes at the center of galaxies are in 2 states
feeding or dormant and this changes from time to time, ours is dormant
at present. so if some new matter strays into a dormant bh then then it
can give it the momentum to start spiraling round and round again and
therefore 'feeding' on the matter surrounding it like a big whirlpool.
now in the center of the bh is the singularity, i'm gonna make some big
leaps here so bear with me. so i start to think, all these
singularity's in the universe at the center of galaxy's everywhere being
part of galaxy formation. the energy spewing out in a spindle for
millions of miles into space like the pic on david's site.
i have thoughts about the singularity and what it is what is there and
all that stuff, and the program showed what would happen on a journey
there but could not say what happens in the singularity for obvious
reasons, our current laws of physics do not permit this understanding.
so i got to thinking about what if the singularities were all connected
in some way, i cannot even begin to imagine how or where or why i just
have an idea. they also had this physics guru type person professor
something introduced as the greatest new mind in physics since einstein,
and he was saying that the universe is in a delicate balance between
being the universe and being nothing or void. it is expanding faster
and faster away from everything else since the big bang. that is to say
the universe and everything is accelerating away from everything else he
also said that if there is unlimited expansion and acceleration the
universe would simply become nothing again. he was getting at the
universe being a pulsating thing like a light going on and off but in
much, much bigger scale terms, hard to get your head round stuff. i try
understand the balance of matter and energy in a galaxy like an hour
glass, the sand grains at the top in our galaxy and universe, the narrow
hole the bh and below where the sand falls, who knows? or does the sand
get spewed back up through the hole but at a higher energy level so we
can't see or detect it, so it could be like 2 universes in the same
space but it supports the overall balance of energy in the universe.
all that matter, energy and whole galaxies and solar systems getting
sucked in in an instant, where does it go? as i watched the fantastic
models and animation's in the program i was astounded at the scale of
things. it seems that the black holes in the universe are the things
that regulate the balance of matter and energy in the universe at any
given time, but how? maybe this is a case of me with the narrowest mind
making the broadest statements. i don't know?
it's something that has been bugging me for a few weeks now and i wanted
to share with you for discussion, as it's a very interesting discovery.
do all the singularity's connect to the higher dimensions or something?
i also listened to the laura lee show you did david about the aether and
it was great, i started to wonder how this all ties in with bh.
i would be most interested to hear your thoughts david and anyone else,
please forgive my ignorance in what i have said, and enlighten me where
necessary, be kind.
the singularity is something i think we can work with as we're in
uncharted territory, it would be nice to hear some ideas on this stuff
as the physicist's don't know.
look forward to reading anyone's thoughts
love and light to you all
christian.

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johnson rod
01-24-2001, 02:29 AM
--- david wilcock <djw333@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=4oykqu6_npd7dso2bq-mkhsygmfo1qwpapn_eick_sy2wjdlxz2y2zpdohiiq_0j4ucj6 rqw8_i)> wrote:

and i want to add this note to what he wrote below.

when distant galxies were first seen there was a
natural response to their different forms. it was
supposed that the different forms indicated different
phases in their growth and evolution. they were
likened to flowers bloosoming and growing then
becoming seeds for new.... what ever happened to that
idea?

the new adventures into subtle physics demonstrates
that at the foundations of reality there is a process
of steady change and connective states. that is the
idea of the future. particles, black holes and big
bangs just do not fit.

rod deebokonon

> two brief points which will be in the new book:
>
> 1. nix the big bang.
>
> 2. nix black holes at the center of galaxies.
>
> black holes may very well exist but this is the only
> explanation for the
> necessary gravitational mass at the center of
> galaxies. they have been
> inferred from the data but not observed.
>
> the new science is continuous creation. galaxies'
> centers are actually
> flowering anew, as per halton arp's work - do a net
> search on alltheweb.com
> with "arp" and "redshift" and you'll turn over stuff
> soon enough.
>
> sorry i can't say more right now. the only "payment"
> that you all have to
> fork over is the time to wait before this new book
> is ready.
>
> peace be with you -
>
> - david
> ----- original message -----
> from: christian
> to: asc2k@egroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=9vaeqmz5agmy5nmgcuvbgmv4zu1xhrjetu6_pc ibb_wwkmxtwtu7u8heucki4xihyqq87koyig)
> sent: tuesday, january 23, 2001 10:27 am
> subject: [asc2k]black holes.
>
>
> hello david and all here present,
> hope you are all well wherever you are.
> big bone for us all to throw around and have a
> gnaw at!
> i hope this comes out ok as the guy in my next
> door apartment is
> knocking off tiles and doing diy, constant
> hammering, anyway...
> i have been thinking about this program i saw on
> tv over here in the uk
> and have been trying to resolve the stuff in the
> program to what we know
> from davids work.
> the program is horizon and it was about black
> holes. please feel free
> to correct me on anything in this posting as my
> knowledge in this area
> is like a soup bowl, wide and shallow:)
> the bottom line is this: they have discovered
> recently, last few months,
> that there is a black hole at the center of every
> galaxy as shown in the
> program and detailed obs of andromeda galaxy and
> its black hole which
> has recently started feeding again and will
> eventually in millions of
> years crash into our own and form one big galaxy.
> that's something else
> entirely!
> in the program the black holes at the center of
> galaxies are in 2 states
> feeding or dormant and this changes from time to
> time, ours is dormant
> at present. so if some new matter strays into a
> dormant bh then then it
> can give it the momentum to start spiraling round
> and round again and
> therefore 'feeding' on the matter surrounding it
> like a big whirlpool.
> now in the center of the bh is the singularity,
> i'm gonna make some big
> leaps here so bear with me. so i start to think,
> all these
> singularity's in the universe at the center of
> galaxy's everywhere being
> part of galaxy formation. the energy spewing out
> in a spindle for
> millions of miles into space like the pic on
> david's site.
> i have thoughts about the singularity and what it
> is what is there and
> all that stuff, and the program showed what would
> happen on a journey
> there but could not say what happens in the
> singularity for obvious
> reasons, our current laws of physics do not permit
> this understanding.
> so i got to thinking about what if the
> singularities were all connected
> in some way, i cannot even begin to imagine how or
> where or why i just
> have an idea. they also had this physics guru
> type person professor
> something introduced as the greatest new mind in
> physics since einstein,
> and he was saying that the universe is in a
> delicate balance between
> being the universe and being nothing or void. it
> is expanding faster
> and faster away from everything else since the big
> bang. that is to say
> the universe and everything is accelerating away
> from everything else he
> also said that if there is unlimited expansion and
> acceleration the
> universe would simply become nothing again. he
> was getting at the
> universe being a pulsating thing like a light
> going on and off but in
> much, much bigger scale terms, hard to get your
> head round stuff. i try
> understand the balance of matter and energy in a
> galaxy like an hour
> glass, the sand grains at the top in our galaxy
> and universe, the narrow
> hole the bh and below where the sand falls, who
> knows? or does the sand
> get spewed back up through the hole but at a
> higher energy level so we
> can't see or detect it, so it could be like 2
> universes in the same
> space but it supports the overall balance of
> energy in the universe.
> all that matter, energy and whole galaxies and
> solar systems getting
> sucked in in an instant, where does it go? as i
> watched the fantastic
> models and animation's in the program i was
> astounded at the scale of
> things. it seems that the black holes in the
> universe are the things
> that regulate the balance of matter and energy in
> the universe at any
> given time, but how? maybe this is a case of me
> with the narrowest mind
> making the broadest statements. i don't know?
> it's something that has been bugging me for a few
> weeks now and i wanted
> to share with you for discussion, as it's a very
> interesting discovery.
> do all the singularity's connect to the higher
> dimensions or something?
> i also listened to the laura lee show you did
> david about the aether and
> it was great, i started to wonder how this all
> ties in with bh.
> i would be most interested to hear your thoughts
> david and anyone else,
> please forgive my ignorance in what i have said,
> and enlighten me where
> necessary, be kind.
> the singularity is something i think we can work
> with as we're in
> uncharted territory, it would be nice to hear some
> ideas on this stuff
> as the physicist's don't know.
> look forward to reading anyone's thoughts
> love and light to you all
> christian.
>
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Christian
01-24-2001, 05:01 AM
hi david,
thanks for the reference, i'll look up halton's work and increase my
knowlege.
thank you
love and light
christian.