The 2012 Enigma by David Wilcock

[Papa T]

video added march 6 2008

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4951448613711060908

2012: tragedy, transcension or just another year? david wilcock exposes many great secrets: dna, consciousness science, wormholes, stargate ... all » travel, sacred geometry, three-dimensional time, the mayan calendar and much, much more!

part i: convergence the movie, consciousness energy field, edgar cayce reincarnation, da vinci code, inconvenient truth, galactic alignment, dodecahedron, 2012 / dna crop circles, sacred geometry as vibration, tetrahedron, 19.5 degrees

part ii: hans jenny / cymatics, space and time inverting, wave-particle duality, buckyballs / fullerenes, dna as a wave, kaznacheyev, psychic healing, dewey larson, 3d time, space-time fabric, time-space

part iii: fairy circles, natural stargates, esp, nested spheres, channeling, chakras, pineal gland, sumerian tablets, osiris, kundalini, pine cone symbolism, tammuz, shiva, third eye, bindi, bacchus, dionysus, jesus, the vatican

part iv: pyramid sarcophagus, cathedral windows, the world tree, melatonin, dmt, ayahuasca, dreams, out of body experience, the silver cord

part v: mark of the beast, microclusters, synchronicity, shamanism, holographic sound, reverse-engineering the pineal gland, dan burisch, project looking glass, contact

part vi: the last mimzy, the roswell crash, the cube / yellow disc, hellraiser, election tampering, pole shift, time-viewing technology, the iraq war, dctp / doctrine of the convergent timeline paradox, human-lineage ets

part vii: tree of life, illuminati, rothschilds, hitler, new world order, lucifer, luciferian philosophy, catholic church, philadelphia experiment / rainbow project

part viii: phoenix iii, montauk chair, time travel, dec. 21, 2012, 20-year cycle, stargate sg-1, outer band individuated teletracer / obit, the outer limits, time vector generator / tvg, mars pyramids, underground bases, jumproom, total recall, minority report, x-men / cerebro, rifts in time

part ix: forbidden planet, psychic conduit, zero-time, 2012 dimensional shift, edgar cayce readings, chandler’s wobble, pole shift, library of atlantis / hall of records, california earthquakes

part x: create your own reality, 2012 not cataclysmic, russian physics, dr. sergey smelyakov / auric time scale, mayan calendar, spiral imploding into 2012 changing consciousness, ascended abilities, spiritual growth

[nem338nem]

probably the best to date, i can only imagine how much more info is awaiting us in the future. excellent job david.

[fiz]

this is a very significant contribution indeed. with david going public about so many forbidden subjects --- and presenting a meta-context that renders them intuitively coherent, it feels like a breakthrough moment on an unprecedented scale is at hand, a kind of mini-disclosure on multiple fronts of subjects that, as they continue to become known on a widespread level, may themselves become altered by our mass conscious awareness of them.

brave work, and clearly essential. kid gloves are off: it's definitely hammer time!

happy birthday, amigo.

fiz

[Muse]

yippee! just love it!!!!!

[Gort]

i double that wow to the 10th power! every time i watch david i feel so in sync with what he is saying. i can't even begin to put this into words and you know what, i am not even going to try.

i sense that there will come a time when i will meet you, david, and we will both know at that exact moment that even though we grew up in different places at different times that the experiences that each of us have had will somehow be intertwined. it will be a great day. i have to go meditate now because i know that i just have to do it.

[SuperManny]

this is some really incredible stuff! i can only imagine the countless hours david has invested in putting all this together. my first instinct is that it would be great to get this out to a larger audience.

with that in mind i remembered that at the coast to coast home page they had a little blurb saying they are looking for guests to appear on the show.


be a guest on c2c
do you have an area of expertise that would appeal to the coast to coast am audience? send your name, what you would like to talk about on the show, and your phone number to coastproducer@aol.com. now if we could contact dw directly and encourage him to email the show, we might get him back on coast. i will email the show and tell them dw has got some great new material, and then i'll send dw an email too encouraging him to email the show. if a bunch of us do this we might get thru to them pretty quick!

[moderator would like to add that david has been on c2c in te past]

[Kranos]

brilliant! :d

[Understanding]

i was blown away i wasn't bored for a moment...

[Cobra42898]

this is some really great stuff. i found it to be one of the best for tying so many different pieces together into one solid picture. i'd love the idea of another c2c show with this info, but then again i would have been in favor of this all along. it seems every new release of information by dw seems to bring forward new contacts and testimonies, which lead to more information coming out. it's the inward spiral thing all over again. and the end was ironic at least for me, as i just woke up from a dream where i was levitating small objects. it really hit me within that context. i hope this becomes an internet hit.

[Mozart]

first of all:


happy birthday, david!


secondly, can the transcript team please transcribe this video asap? as soon as it is transcribed, please send it to me and i'll be very happy to edit it for easy readability, then i'll send it to david, who can then post it in this website.


it is really important that the transcript not to be posted anywhere else prior to having it posted here so that the internet search engines can give the proper weight of origination of the transcript to this website and not any other website.


so please do transcribe it, send it on to me for editing, then i'll send it on to david for him to post it wherever he wants to post it in his website.


i can't wait to read it. i'll still watch the video just to see it, but i won't get the data (the words), as i'm nearly deaf; many other people are in the same boat that i am, so a transcript is needed asap. thanks.


~seth

[transiten]

hi! heureka!

i think now we can put the thread "david's new interview with project camelot" to rest. this new video straightens out the question-marks! i felt like riding on a "safe" roller coaster; ok her we go! fasten seatbelts, high speed, tikcling stomach, laughter and soft landing.

talking about a stream of consciusness flowing like a steady river out of davids mouth!

synchronicities with every step i take, see you in that thread.

liliane

[r0ni]

thanks for this. i just wish it was a couple of more hours:)

peace

[BHOPPE]

this was an incredible video and i thank mr. wilcock. happy birthday to you mr. wilcock. like always, it was a pleasure to watch you speak. your contributions to humanity do not go unappreciated, at least not by me.

love to all,
brett

[dazcox]

brilliant, things just make more and more sense...

[AmelieJolie]

i started to watch some of this tonight, going to have to get to bed in a minute, but i can't wait to see the rest tomorrow!

david wilcock, this website; its resources....are definitely my favourite teachers.

[dazcox]

i posted the video to my blog with a little introduction. while writing the post i researched some of the elements, the biology of the eye and pineal gland and the history of the pine cone.

that pine cone in the vatican is actually from the 1st century! a roman made it, and supposedly it was for a fountain near a temple dedicated to isis,an egyptian goddess right?

there were references to the pine cone being a phallic fertility symbol, which might make more sense to some people having the pope waving it around on his rod *ahem*!

all in all, i think david is right, his quantum physics fueled explanation of how the pineal gland works is the most inspiring thing i've heard in a long time.

[please email dazcox if you would like his blogspace link] blogspace? my blog is my domain on a godaddy server!
my homepage is accessable via the dropdown menu under my name... or go to my name with a dot com geez...

[ace ota]

great video as always.
funny though, i was actually thinking about making david's caricature and animate it with one of his mp3 readings/documents.
it could be pretty nifty to watch the little cartoon david on screen giving lectures. :cool:
i haven't, thinking that it might upset david(or anyone else,) that i didn't asked him if i could do such thing.:eek:
anyway, much blessings and keep up the great job!

love and peace everyone:o

ace

[Rhonda]

i am hungry for more.... wonderful, i wish i could have been there for all the events/talks keep going...... you are on a mission and you have my attention....

thank you !

[AmelieJolie]

i got goose pimples watching that. :)

[Wellerite]

truly it has to be said, who better to marry science and faith other than david wilcock? profound insight into the workings of the pineal gland. engrossing as always, top stuff.

[dazcox]

great video as always.
funny though, i was actually thinking about making david's caricature and animate it with one of his mp3 readings/documents.
it could be pretty nifty to watch the little cartoon david on screen giving lectures. :cool:
i haven't, thinking that it might upset david(or anyone else,) that i didn't asked him if i could do such thing.:eek:
anyway, much blessings and keep up the great job!

love and peace everyone:o

acei was thinking ace, why don't you make a cartoon avatar of yourself (any version of yourself!) and give your take on the info that david has provided.

i've been finding that by attempting to write what i've learned here for a different audience has helped me to digest the material, and even learn more about it.

i think one of the most important lessons that david is teaching us is to have the audacity to trust in ourselves as teachers and 'show off' our talents without false humility.

good luck and you will have at least one person in your audience!

[HazyDew]

i wanted to share something i realized while watching this video. keeping with the egyptian/pineal gland/pinecone imagery, anyone else notice the similarity here?

http://thehip.net/eyehorus-pineal.jpg

thanks for sharing the video david, i look forward to your future projects with great interest!

[vithar]

good one. makes me wonder about the amygdala. is there a transcript? i don't understand why you can't save the stuff to view it later. many folks can't stream audio, never mind video.

[FooSnik]

definitely my favorite video yet. quite uplifting and exciting. it is weird that i just finished a book about the pineal gland, and found it very interesting, and then i watch the video and dw describes how they reversed engineered it. i never thought of reverse engineering something like that. mind boggling and very cool.

[dazcox]

i wanted to share something i realized while watching this video. keeping with the egyptian/pineal gland/pinecone imagery, anyone else notice the similarity here?

http://thehip.net/eyehorus-pineal.jpg

thanks for sharing the video david, i look forward to your future projects with great interest!brilliant! that has too many similarities to be coincidence, hmmm the pineal is in the tear from the eye right? are there references to the tears of ra or anything like that?

[HazyDew]

brilliant! that has too many similarities to be coincidence, hmmm the pineal is in the tear from the eye right? are there references to the tears of ra or anything like that?

the egyptian art work is the eye of horus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/eye_of_horus). i will leave it up to the more knowledgeable members to figure out/explain what it all means and how it relates to ra :d for one reason or another the similarity jumped out at me while i was watching david's video and i figured it was an interesting enough coincidence to share.

[dazcox]

hmmm the video is missing from google video (8pm eastern march 11 '08) can anyone post a new link?

[moderator note: as david had stated in his blog, that link was not permanent and there will be another one shortly]

[Kris]

i'm so glad that everyone has now had a chance to hear all this incredible new information that david shared at his shows. i'm sure those of us who attended either expo were just bursting to share some of the new stuff; however, as everyone was intuitively aware, it was david's to share when he felt it was ready.

pretty amazing stuff.

i also wanted to mention having read david's prelude to the video about how he could not speak to very many people one on one at the events that he did take the time to talk to each one of the forum members that he was introduced to. he even hugged us all.:)

he also told us that he does in fact read all of our posts, even if he has to print them off and take them with him on the run.

can't wait for you guys to see the meditation segment when it's released. it'll blow you away as well.

with much gratitude and love,
kris

[dazcox]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4951448613711060908

that link works!

[political discussion removed-please remember that daivd does not predict political outcomes and does not focus on political issues]

[vithar]

issac newton went on about the pineal; the seat of the soul. others mention there's a (n energetic) torus some where around there. we know what the torus implies.

>>>>>

there are seeming "death stars" (planet like craft most likely from the orion group). there was a crop circle (mid 90's) in the western us depicting something like this. let's call it a "hoax".

all the monolithic structures were actually part of a vast network that worked in tandem to...

wanna here more?

>>>>>>

funny how we hear that the ptb's lackeys spread disinfo...while at the same time supposedly leak truth in movies. i guess it comes down to details and or partial truths. perception.
but it has been observed that the ptb's agenda is eugenics based. guess i was'nt astute enough to make a direct connection here. notice how all this new age/esoteric stuff is about consciousness evolution and the like?
this is their agenda.
meaning....even if energy and consciousness were not in fact increasing....we would still be reading about it everywhere.

now it only seems logical that we've come up through all the various stages.
a new title is "from slime to the divine". i have some of [email for author] books on this kinda thinking.

the apparent problem here is, it's an old idea and because they are promoting it; this idea.
this is the observation of some other long term researchers. the whole idea of the great work is masonic. we are being deluged by this idea from all sides. to become gods eventually.
but wait, are'nt we infinite and great already!?

as mentioned earlier i recently found to my dismay that astrology has been statistically invalidated. but you won't hear this in the mainstream. so it will still be a part of "great work" systems (oto, golden dawn etc).

i keep thinking about these great pre-cataclysmic peoples. and us.

all this is fishy. i'm certainly not ruling out greater realities or conscious(ness) evolution. i guess they're just filling the arena full of diversions.

so if we are indeed coming into a higher phase, would the ptb shout this from the roof tops?

sometimes it almost seems as if they are actually on to something. corporate greed aside. maybe all this is due to factions. i'd better stop now......

[transiten]

vithar

would you please clarify what you said about astrology having been statistically invalidated...i mean that's old news...and also they probably haven't read gauquelins work......explain later....since i'm doing a lot of astrology myself i'd be glad for respons.

liliane

[litllady]

found some great info-the link is a study of the pineal gland as well as more then half of the page refers to a reading that edgar cayce gave to someone about the pineal gland. very interesting what edgar has to say about it!

http://www.edgarcayce.org/th/tharchiv/research/pineal.html

peace to all,
lynette

[litllady]

i like the pictures of the eye of ra being compared to the structure of our brain. could it be that the secretions from the pineal gland are like a divine substance of our body and that the tear of ra is referring to this substance?? i read that the secretion of our body were once thought of as the 'fountain of youth' so to say. so how powerful are the secretions from the pineal gland....how powerful our the bodily secretions?

just things wondering around in my mind-could ra of known about this precious secretion? i find it ironic that the word secret is in secretions.

peace to all,
lynette

[vithar]

astrology-and-science.com. have a ball...

it's not just astrology. the whole old school law of correspondences is out the window. this is the absolute foundation of all these magickal systems. from the oto, golden dawn, wicca...

what i don't like here is i've been asking my "higher self" what one system i could pursue. can't seem to get an answer. guess i was'nt meant for this stuff.
the real problem is it seems i'm not meant for anything.

but yes, there has been new arguments - from philosophers themselves.

[SuperManny]

... ...what i don't like here is i've been asking my "higher self" what one system i could pursue. can't seem to get an answer. guess i was'nt meant for this stuff.
the real problem is it seems i'm not meant for anything...

yes, i hear you, i've spent the better part of my life searching... and still haven't found anything that agrees with me completely. seems like i find something that speaks to my soul, but then i find some part of it that i simply cannot blindly accept.

the guidance i'm getting says that if you ever do agree with a system 100%, that means you are not truly thinking for yourself, and the most helpful thing we can do is to take only that which resonates with our core vibration, and leave the rest, without giving it another thought.

it's like a diamond mine; you dig, and you dig for what seems forever, but occasionally you come across a real gem that makes it all worthwhile. so you simply take the gems you find and leave all the dirt behind, but the point is; you gotta dig for it, and sometimes it takes a lot of digging.

[dazcox]

uggh i just read about pinealectomys.

if scientists invented a lazer that burned out peoples pineal glands what would happen to those people with no pineal????

if you had no pineal when 2012 rolls around are you just going to watch as people around you have amazing spiritual transmutations?

we know that the brain can shift areas when one area is damaged so would you grow a new pineal?

[vithar]

neat you mention mines as i just watched "fellowship of the rings". how dwarves mined so deep in moria.
yes, and being bombarded with entertaining speculations does'nt help much.
i guess this ties into the idea that the secret meaning to life is that there is no meaning. only what you give it.
...and if this clashes with cultural norms, i guess your stuck.

[John Church]

it's funny you mention mining. it's where i got left over a decade ago other than life too. i didn't know what i was doing where but this became it. i can't say i have a single philosophy it's more a life of generalizations from what i studied. i enjoy all the explanations knowing they are not the same. i think different lessons resonate with the cycles you did while believing those systems. after all isn't it show time? i can't say i believe so it's nice to be able to do what you feel is right instead of trying to beat your way into the"144,00" or however it is gonna work. how about we are just dragged right on into the makeshift plane with all the other hangers on as members of their fantasy? in any case i don't plan on breaking my back planning for retirement; i break my back for a living i expect to finish at some point. whats needed comes and i guess a lot of cash isn't one of them haha. too much coffee and time to sleep to noon. it's snowing and the woofs really won't let me sleep.:)

[vithar]

well i'd like to hang out in moria for a while. tho after being cleared out of shadow life.

let's see where were we, oh yeah, what is religion? what do dreams mean?

pretty cool about this [email for name and product]. this is what life is supposed to be about. odd tho in his book he said he spent "hundreds of thousands of dollars" on spiritual learning etc.

i was considering something like a non traditional degree in metaphysics. but these are held with utter contempt by mainstream educators.

any leads anyone? rather than offering my services to man in need, i'd rather bury my nose and mind in myth, folklore and star gates based on sacred geometric oscillation. may as well get some credit for to.

[Spiral of Light]

found some great info-the link is a study of the pineal gland as well as more then half of the page refers to a reading that edgar cayce gave to someone about the pineal gland. very interesting what edgar has to say about it!

http://www.edgarcayce.org/th/tharchiv/research/pineal.html

peace to all,
lynette

great find, lynette. this is excellent reference material.

i found the following information regarding meditation especially interesting:

281-14 12/14/32
q. please explain the sensations during meditation of vibration running up through the body and ending in a sort of fullness in the head.
a. the various portions, as given, represent the activities that are being set, either when considered from the purely scientific or from the metaphysical standpoint, as an active force emanating from the life itself within. then, these become all-embracing; hence the better understanding should be gained, whether used to disseminate and bring healing or for the raising of the forces in self. when one is able to so raise within themselves such vibrations . . . then the body of that individual becomes a magnet that may (if properly used) bring healing to others with the laying on of hands. this is the manner in which such a healing becomes effective by the laying on of hands.

i have been wondering what that 'vibration' was all about! very interesting.

thanks for finding this gem and for sharing it.

love and light,
nancy

[vithar]

looks like there might not be a transcript. anyone care to type a few of the highlights? new stuff...

and gauquelins' work has been examined. it all - et al - comes up short. the ncgr failed their own test. twice if i recall.
but this goes for feng shui as well. et al.

[SuperManny]

looks like there might not be a transcript. anyone care to type a few of the highlights? new stuff...
i think meganarline did the the transcript, and mozart was doing the final proofing, so it should be out soon. :)

[Mozart]

i think meganarline did the the transcript, and mozart was doing the final proofing, so it should be out soon. :)


yup, it's done! just minutes ago...the editing part.


meganarline did a great job with the transcript. i joined her with own notation of applauding close the end of the video when our david described how wonderful 4-d is going to be. i can't wait for 4-d!


david said to me in a private e "no rush", in response to my query into whether he wanted a partial transcript, so that he'd be able to get going on it, and i responded by saying to him that, since there's no rush, expect delivery the transcript on dec 19th, 2012. :eek:


so, fortified by the spirits of russian smelly-cough, i mean smirnov, or whatever, vodka and lots of proofing and spoofing, i'll go through it one more time, then send it on to david sometime today or tomorrow (it's dec 19, 2012, today, right?):d .


y'all will enjoy it immensely. great stuff! coming to an inbox theater nearest to you...

[transiten]

hmmm

i don't quite follow you due to your way of expression, i'm swdish so i don't get the shortages and irony..if ther is any..can't sort that out either..you said something about your mercury/saturnsquare...that might be a hint toward your scepticism...or are you just amused being a sceptic?? how can it be you are on this forum at all then??? suppose i misunderstand everything due to my neptune/mercurysquaretransit/neptunesquaresolarreturn

liliane "the transit"

[transiten]

hi again...thought that if i clicked on vithars post it would pop in there..but of course not..suppose you can figure out it was a reply to you vithar. goodnight! it's midnight here.
l

[litllady]

hi transiten!

i hope you dont mind me butting in on the chat between you and vithar...i would like to say a couple of things. we all do not think totally alike here, if we did we would be really boring people. instead we are like a quilt full of many colors and we must remember to let each persons color shine. not everyone here follows astrology. some are skeptical mostly because they have followed it for many years and came up right back where they started.

i love the stars, but i don't believe in horoscopes. but this is ok, for what is ok with me doesn't have to be ok to others and vice versa. i don't think we need to ask anyone here 'how can they be in this forum'. if someone is here, they are here due to a feeling they had that resonated with them either through dw material or the law of one material or both. bottom line is we are all here with a longing to be reunited and learning how to live as a 'one' through sharing experiences. so by all means keep your experiences coming, i personally enjoy your readings. i know the things i ponder on sometimes doesnt sit well with some, but i still post it if it strikes my gut to do so.

i think we must be skeptical at everything except for the fact that we are all of one. i personally think the whole idea of following the planets for horoscopes ect...has gone overboard with the whole 'reading' thing. but again, with much respect, this is just my opinion. i still enjoy your posts of your search for understanding about the planets and houses ect....i look at the zodiac as not so much a personal reading clock but our universes reading clock. i think our 'birth signs' our more a memory from our past self to spark something in us we need to know in this life.

its all good that we can discuss our experiences and thoughts and ideas. but we must remember to each their own.

i guess what truly prompted me to post here was the vibe i received when reading of you asking how it was that a someone could be in this forum if they were a skeptic. mabey i took your post the wrong way. if so please forgive me for my post.

truly, im posting with my best intentions on just sharing thoughts, vibes and ideas. we all learn from sharing!!! so keep sharing your feelings on your planets and houses for that is what you are experiencing in the moment, just as i will continue to share experiences that i go through, even if i know it wont resonate with everyone. sometimes i post something just because i have a feeling that there is one person out there that could be pondering the same thought i have. i would go crazy if i tried to follow the planets in the houses and so forth. so good luck to you trying to figure it all out!

vithar and i have had similar discussion about doubts and thoughts on similar things:) the discussion we had was about zodiacs. we gave thoughts and opinions but never did we ask the other 'why' the other was here if he/she didnt go by what the other thought.

we are all experienceing and growing at different speeds and levels.

some people dont like to go by the zodiacs and planets ect. because they feel its not a truly dependable source of searching ones self. me, im in the gray area, i think the zodiac can give us insights....but the question sill remains with me, how far can that insight of knowledge go with zodiacs and symbols? i think eventually we give into the realization that there is a zodiacal compass within us that directs us towards the knowledge our higher self is wanting us to seek. still, again, will we ever truly know if the planets and stars can be a reading for our personal self? we can ask others why they dont think its a good source for information just as they can ask us why we think it is a good source of information. neither side has any proof really.

i could read every horoscope for each month and i can find something in each one pertaining to me and my life. so how can one say that a certain planet in my constellation is the reason for something that happened to me today?

much love!!
lynette

[SuperManny]

yup, it's done! just minutes ago...the editing part.
meganarline did a great job with the transcript.
a thousand thanks for the fine work both of you do! it is very much appreciated. may the creator's highest blessings follow you always! :)

[japamen]

great research from david. it just blew me away. iam recommending this video to as many people as possible to watch.

in one place it is mentioned that the pineal gland has retinal structure inside and these act like television by receiving and projecting images from the inner world/dreamworld/spirit realms etc. i can confirm this. my third eye is active for the past two years and nowadays i see a circular shaped tv projecting from my third eye area, whenever i focus in that area. during waking hours i just see a bunch of spiders crawling in that tv space and interestingly enough those spiders use their tentacles to create humanoid faces with a ghost like texture and these face images get registered on the surface i look at. for example if look at a photograph in the computer, the face images with ghost like texture get registered on the photo iam looking at. if i wake up during sleep i see the image of scenary that was in the dreamscape when i woke up, in this tv space.

thanks

[vithar]

is there a transcript for this yet? how do they decide what goes to youtube or googlevid and the dc site as a download? rather why are'nt they all at the dc site for download? more traffic at the others i guess. how's about a link to the dc site to the full version?

hoi, your description sounds like the torus shape other researchers were opining.

spiders. mayhaps you need some colloidal silver.

[Time_Spiral]

greetings.

some may have noticed, others have not ... i have been away for a while. doing other things, yet still intimately connected with the ongoing effort. doing my part.

about the pineal gland

i cannot seem to find any corroborating information about "rods and cones" in the pineal as dw suggested. i love dw et al's work, and i'm familiar that sometimes he breezes by something, or changes the language of something simply so that it "makes sense [to the laymen] or is more easily absorbed in passing", so i guess i'm curious how he arrived at the "rods in cones" in the pineal.

i found that their a photosensitive elements in the pineal, that are related to the light/darkness activation dynamic ... but nothing about rods and cones, or the em shielding effect that occurs. i found the implications of this suggestion to be mind boggling, and am the type that likes to look at the research.

can anyone offer some help in finding this material?

all of this information is awesome, it is just slightly rough when the sources are anonymous and non-reproduceable because of the veil of secrecy shrouded over the research. water flipping into time-space, rods and cones in the pineal gland, em shielding being 'fine-tuned' to guide the experience through different entry points into time-space ... it's all amazing stuff to think about ... and it's great to infer from a multitude of different sources that this is the big picture, but does anyone else just get the urge to do it?

let's do it, you know? can we prove some of this stuff without relying on secret testimony? i think the next step, after enlightening disclosure, is demonstration.

any thoughts?

be peaceful on your way,
time_spiraling

[Mozart]

greetings.

some may have noticed, others have not ... i have been away for a while. doing other things, yet still intimately connected with the ongoing effort.



i found that their a photosensitive elements in the pineal, that are related to the light/darkness activation dynamic ... but nothing about rods and cones, or the em shielding effect that occurs. i found the implications of this suggestion to be mind boggling, and am the type that likes to look at the research.



long-time, no-see, bro.


good questions and i've been surfing for some answers also and, like you, haven't found any...yet. it all makes so much sense (david's info), so i have a high level of confidence that this rods 'n cones and other information is very accurate; if it was not, i seriously doubt that he'd have put it out there.


maybe we could try to do some inner surfing on the inner-net using our 3rd eye, for some info on this, eh? i'll post something if something comes up.


i have a small story, though, about a 3-rd eye experience. years ago, i was new into the metaphysical world and was totally into trying out new things and i wanted to find out what would happen if i sat down and stared at a beautiful smoky quartz crystal that i had. so i sat down and managed to stare at it for a good half-hour straight. then i closed my eyes and, within a few seconds, in the blackness of my closed eyes, came spinning to me a perfect, beautiful crystal, though not exactly the same look as the one that i was staring at, but it was breath-taking to behold.


i was so excited when i saw it, then, poof, it disappeared. no! i wanted that crystal to come back, but, try as i might, i could not re-conjure it. plus i've had other awesome 3rd-eye experiences, come to think of it.


i never forgot that 1st experience with that crystal. now, with the new information about the pineal gland, i'm going to dig back into it and i look forward to some inner seeing with it.


but, after years of dietary abuse, i'm really worried that i've damaged my pineal gland, so i'm going to have to take a look into that while i am cleaning up my diet, amongst other things while i do a complete 180 with my life.


i'll at least visualize my pineal gland being healthy, vital and in perfect shape...and it will be, eventually, i think.

[WeR1]

spiders. mayhaps you need some colloidal silver.


vithar -
i'm aware of the health benefits of colloidal silver (in fact, just purchased some yesterday!)- but how, pray tell, would that help in regards to this?

reminds me, by the way of a very recent dream in which a spider web was suspended all across a room with perhaps 3 centers to it and 3 spiders i think, a bat appeared and i was afraid it would pierce the web.

[DGCrow]

greetings to all,

i'm not quite sure if this post really belongs to this thread, but here goes....

after sending off an e-mail to mozart i logged onto the forum, and the first posting i read was from mozart concerning one of his third-eye experiences.

quote from mozart:


"i have a small story, though, about a 3-rd eye experience. years ago, i was new into the metaphysical world and was totally into trying out new things and i wanted to find out what would happen if i sat down and stared at a beautiful smoky quartz crystal that i had. so i sat down and managed to stare at it for a good half-hour straight. then i closed my eyes and, within a few seconds, in the blackness of my closed eyes, came spinning to me a perfect, beautiful crystal, though not exactly the same look as the one that i was staring at, but it was breath-taking to behold."

a couple nights ago i sat down with a yoga book which describes a gazing exercise called tratak, said to develop concentration and mental focusing. basically one gazes at a candle flame without blinking and then closes one's eyes, trying to visualize the candle flame internally.

i managed to not blink for a minute (seemed like that long anyway) and with eyes closed i didn't see the candle flame and couldn't quite will myself to visualize it. instead i saw a small, very distinct, vibrating bright orange geometrical shape. this whatever it was was very cool. i'm familiar with the platonic solids from having read david's convergence books. although this geometric luminosity was distinct, i am still not sure what shape it was; perhaps the dodecahedron, the icosahedron, or even an octahedron vested with a cube.

again, this experience was quite moving for me. first time i ever did that particular yoga exercise and wow! i'm wondering if anyone else has had similar experiences and/or insights about this.

peace,
doug

p.s. i'm hoping how i quoted above comes out within the cool-looking blue box. if it didn't, someone, anyone please clue me in! thanks.

[japamen]

vithar -
i'm aware of the health benefits of colloidal silver (in fact, just purchased some yesterday!)- but how, pray tell, would that help in regards to this?

reminds me, by the way of a very recent dream in which a spider web was suspended all across a room with perhaps 3 centers to it and 3 spiders i think, a bat appeared and i was afraid it would pierce the web.

i have tried colloidal silver in the past. seems continued usage of this may cause some side effects. apparently a person's skin turned blue due to continued usage. please see the youtube video below for details

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xv0i6q70yw

thanks

[KellyNUTS]

absolutely loved this!!! great work once again david!!
can someone help me out with the and of the talk being cut off? will the rest be put up later or did they mean for more info read science of peace, etc, etc?

for the people who want to d/l the google video use this orbit downloader (http://www.orbitdownloader.com/use-as-google-video-downloader.htm) then convert the .flv file into .avi to watch in media player or a divx device with this free converter (http://www.nbxsoft.com/flv-converter.php)
all up the .avi is 192mb in size, the .flv will be around the same but once its converted it and tested ok(im precautious :d ) you can obviously delete the .flv file.
id probably test out the d/l with a smaller one 1st, maybe something like this (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=415642926952756265) so if u make a mistake its only 24mb. once u do it on the enigma video try and do it quickly at the start then close the actual page down so it doesnt download twice, just d/l it, dont watch it.
hope this helps.
this just has to be downloaded!!

[vithar]

you need dd on colloidal silver. or rather the story about that guy. he took huge doses for like 16 years. and when he started having side effects he kept on taking it!

i've been taking a half tsp a few times week. it's great. take it with water.


about the imagery. staring at something is for concentration. also for evocation training. unblinking focus....to catch those subtle energetic fluctuations etc. does something to the eye muscles to.

so...i would'nt get excited over after image burn.

if you see this after along period of darkness, then get curious.

the structure is curious tho. i've seen something like snowflake crystals. better to see what the mind produces rather than tricks of light...

to, i think phosphenes get stimulated by chi coursing through meridians. we are just so pattern loving.

[vithar]

i'm aware of the health benefits of colloidal silver (in fact, just purchased some yesterday!)- but how, pray tell, would that help in regards to this?


i was being a tad sarcastic. when i'm sick my mind's eye can generate the imagery of the little critters responsible.

curious about spiders tho. they were a recurring theme [drug reference removed]. i had the impression that the web creating juice had psychoactive properties. come to find out it does. have'nt tried it tho.

i think they are hideous. all but for these little guys who are translucent. their legs are way too long for their centers. not daddy long legs. they are so cute. precious the way they try to walk.

[Time_Spiral]

attack of the smurfs


i have tried colloidal silver in the past. seems continued usage of this may cause some side effects. apparently a person's skin turned blue due to continued usage. please see the youtube video below for details

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xv0i6q70yw

thanks

this is a real, and valid side effect, however; those ingesting appropriate dosages of colloidal silver from reliable sources - when it is needed - have nothing to worry about.

in every instance of "blue skin syndrome" (which has something to due with silver toxicity and pigmentation), it seems to be the result of extremely irresponsible behavior. for instance; the most famous case of the blue man, he was manufacturing his own concoction of colloidal silver and the concentration level was on the order of 5 to 10 times to high (if memory serves) plus he was taking it every day ... and now he is blue.

hypereye and the coud of confusion/choice

it feels good to be back, thanks for the warm welcome.

there exists certain inherent problems when researching this type of material. as facinating as it is, and as important as it is ... i think there is still an appropriate (?) cloud of confusion surrounding the matter. i've been pondering the purpose of the cloud of choice that surrounds the whole thing.

for instance; when sitting in a math class you don't really have to believe your teacher about a certain method, because he provides you the mathematical proof. once you learn the proof, and understand/accept it ... the ability to choose in that scenario is now gone.

when we learn information (ex: dw 2012 enigma) and the scientific proof is literally enveloped in controversy (or downright debunked), the sources are sworn to secrecy and veiled from the public, and many of the foundational elements required to build the case are so difficult to find in the public domain (possibly because they are so cutting edge) the possibility of choice becomes paramount in the progression of the research and the spiritual evolution.

the more i think about it, the more purposeful and important this cloud of confusion seems to be. what are your thoughts surrounding this topic?

hold your horses

i do not want to appear to be on the offensive with this ground breaking work that dw is submitting to us. i'm a champion of this type of research myself and do many things in my own lil piece of this amazing arena called life to draw attention and concentration to the various fields of ongoing effort.

however; i think it is vitally important that these hardcore topics be talked about by those in a natural position to do so. some will believe, apply the knowledge and continue on the path carved by those they believe in. that is perfectly ok. then there are those who are naturally compelled to be actively involved in the thinking, the research, and the propogation process. and of course; that is perfectly ok. it is my position that the latter of the two groups must ask some difficult questions, and be prepared to do the work required to assist in their own way in this amazing time we're in.

sg-1 ... naquita?
(this thought process was inspired by the colloidal silver topic)

in relation to the topic of finely tuned em fields creating the geometry required to open portals into time-space and to draw aspects of planar energy using your mind as a gateway/channel.

we all know the importance of metal, and its various interactions with em fields. in some ancient cultures metal was actually thought to be part of the godly dietary routine.

i find it awesome that dw noticed the on-point, right on the money aspect of the popular tv series stargate sg-1. i find it interesting to note that the goa'uld have a certain amount of a rare metal in their blood called naquita, and this element flowing through their blood allows them to activate energy weapons with a mind/technology interface manipulated with thought.

this metal also acts as a catalyst that seemingly opens up a telepathic communion ability with the parasitic goa'ulds that inhabit the host.





be peaceful on your way,

time_spiraling

[japamen]

i'm aware of the health benefits of colloidal silver (in fact, just purchased some yesterday!)- but how, pray tell, would that help in regards to this?


i was being a tad sarcastic. when i'm sick my mind's eye can generate the imagery of the little critters responsible.

curious about spiders tho. they were a recurring theme [drug reference removed]. i had the impression that the web creating juice had psychoactive properties. come to find out it does. have'nt tried it tho.

i think they are hideous. all but for these little guys who are translucent. their legs are way too long for their centers. not daddy long legs. they are so cute. precious the way they try to walk.

the spiders you describe are the similar to the ones i see. they do have disproportionately long legs. sometimes they intertwine their legs at a rapid phase and create complex patterns.

thanks

[japamen]

attack of the smurfs


this is a real, and valid side effect, however; those ingesting appropriate dosages of colloidal silver from reliable sources - when it is needed - have nothing to worry about.

in every instance of "blue skin syndrome" (which has something to due with silver toxicity and pigmentation), it seems to be the result of extremely irresponsible behavior. for instance; the most famous case of the blue man, he was manufacturing his own concoction of colloidal silver and the concentration level was on the order of 5 to 10 times to high (if memory serves) plus he was taking it every day ... and now he is blue.



i agree that anything taken in moderation should be ok. but we have to be cognizant of how much is moderate.

thanks

[transiten]

hi vithar and litllady

of course everyone has the right to "believe" or not "believe" in something and interpret their reality as they wish. as for me i don't "believe" in astrology, i know it works because it's a natural part of my life since 20 yerars and i communicate with others via that "heavenly synchronistic language", "as above so below". astrology is just as much an expression of synchronicity as all other forms of synchronicity, and more so a form that can determine the "time" for an energy to manifest. how an entity experiences or acts out depends of the level of consciousnress of the individual.

i follow f.i raymond merriman who is a financial astrologer and every weekend he has a reading combined with "mundane"political analysis. you will be absolutely baffeled how he pinpoints the ups and downs in the stockmarket which of course is a reflection of the collective engaging in it.

also i would say, it is more the somewhat disrespectful and debunking tone i could "hear" in your comments vithar, also regarding "the law of attraction" that surely can be misused, just as astrology can or any spiritual knowledge. with a knife you can peel an apple or kill somebody. by the way, read davids blog on "the deeper secret" where he analyses the superficial and distorted message of the "law of attraction" in the book and the movie "the secret". brilliant!!

maybe i misunderstood you vithar, since english is not my native language i perhaps interpret something as irony that is not.

now i don't want to hijack this thread which was originally about davids wonderful speech. i'm off to paradisland now, sun is shining, -5, some powdersnow, and i will be totally alone except for my dog on a shore that i've cleaned from human litter, reading a book about the right relationship by two native americans.

i'll be back with a personal story about the wonderful synchronicities i experienced when i watched david in la!

[mellisamouse]

awesome. :)

as for the comment on the looking glass.....( the observer affecting the outlook) this is soooo true!

a good example that i personally have allways noticed is in photographs. whenver this one person takes pictures of me (a negative abusive person) or anyone else, i/we look horrid! just aweful, like all distorted and blown up, and yuck! i do not even recognize myself. but with the exact same camera, when people who are my best friends, who know and love me, or if i take a picture of myself, then i look just like the person i see in the mirror, and actually can admit to liking a picture of myself....so even with a simple digital camera (including video) i can show me looking like 2 completley different people withing minutes of vidoe/picture being taken, depnding on who is behind the camera, and how they feel towards me.

i know i sound like a nut, but i could even show a post if you don't believe me, lol. ;)

[charles obscure]

just managed to watch the 2012 enigma last weekend, it was awesome!! i found myself noticing that some flowers in my house look exactly like some of the objects david was showing on his presentation. with a six sided star at its foundation and a time space implosion aspect right in the middle. its amazing how much truth one can observe in nature.

i do have a small conspiracy theory of my own, if david really doesnt watch t.v as he claims on his myspace, then how does he know so darn much about that stargate series?? lol

j/k :d

[MarkM]

just managed to watch the 2012 enigma last weekend, it was awesome!! i found myself noticing that some flowers in my house look exactly like some of the objects david was showing on his presentation. with a six sided star at its foundation and a time space implosion aspect right in the middle. its amazing how much truth one can observe in nature.

i do have a small conspiracy theory of my own, if david really doesnt watch t.v as he claims on his myspace, then how does he know so darn much about that stargate series?? lol

j/k :d


alol...my tv watching gradually petered out 'til @ two years ago, when i stopped altogether, but the last thing i ever watched was sg-1, weeknights.

[vithar]

i had the honor of corresponding with stan tenen recently. he even said astrology was'nt predictive. that some aspects were "dangerous" due to the artificiality (ie. projection on to what is real. and or visa versa). but he (and i) agree that it all can be synchronistic.

but as i've said elsewhere, this phenomena is ubiquitous. you can get this stuff by simply "getting into" anything.

but he followed up with his main point which was that we were'nt meant to lean on sources outside ourselves. but we've all heard that. especially church goers. so i guess he's not into channeling... : )

i think it's semantics; when you pray to "god"....well? oh yeah, god is within! doh!

i've been trying to dowse for the right card. takes time. and there seems to be seasons of insensitivity. but i did once hit the very card out of 10 on the first try....

and where is that transcript!?

[JennyM]

hi! could anyone tell me if the 2012 enigma video is on mp3 anywhere? if
it is not, could it be made available (through divinecosmos.com, or
projectcamelot.org, etc.)? i was thinking how nice it would be to be able to
download it, especially in light of what keeps happening with it on google.
thanks! love, j

[angiesolo]

http://www.maya12-21-2012.com/spirituality.html#wilcock

[moderator note: some parts of this are no longer available on the google videos, but this is the entire footage uncut]

[BJ ∞ Living in the Now]

does anyone know where on the site you can download the raw video files david was speaking about in his latest thread about the 2012 enigma files? i can't find them from his links anywhere. do i need to become a member?

thank you.;)

[tuesday]

my google rss feed (reader) offers me new feeds, based on searches i make and my web history (i think). i hate to be predictible, so i rarely view these recommendations. however, right after i finished watching the 2012 enigma, i found myself clicking to a (new to me) blog called molly's astrology blog, where i read this:

http://astrology.about.com/b/2008/12/04/2012-enigma.htm

>>>snip

2012 enigma
thursday december 4, 2008

just as the solar system is aligning with the galactic center, it seems that things once considered fringy are moving to the center. over at david wilcock's divine cosmos blog, he marvels that his video 2012 enigma has hit the top of the google charts as most viewed. it definitely shows people are tuned in, and want to know what's going on. wilcock calls the video a master class in what's really going on.

it's a great overview of the 2012 phenomenon, with info on crop circles, sacred geometry and the secrets of elites like the illuminati. he talks about our imperiled dna, and what that means for our spiritual evolution and 2012. wilcock is not a doom and gloomer, and in past writings has tried to reassure people that the economic collapse will lead to a better world. be sure to take advantage of this gift of wisdom, from one of the brightest minds around today.
<<<snip

http://cosgan.de/images/midi/froehlich/g035.gif i love it when that happens.

[metaman]

i would like to share with all of you my opinion on the logistics of the geometric change that dw discusses in the 2012 enigma video. i am sharing this as my take on it only. i do not wish to state this as fact. when it boils right down to it, the logistics of how it happens are not need to know information.

i will use the automobile as a metaphor for this knowledge. you can drive a car your whole life and be completely oblivious to the mechanical aspects of how the car works. the car will not break down or work better if you know how it works. it is just an interesting study, just like the dna transformation process is.

as long as you are working towards allowing yourself to be in the moment and love others, you do not need to know how it works. just like you do not need to know how gravity works to prevent yourself from flying off of the surface of the earth.

now on with my take on all of this. to start i would like to refer back to the scientific experiment that dw has spoken of numerous times. that experiment would be the one with the frog and salamander embryos. in this experiment, photons from a non burning laser where used to transfer the torsian field signature of the salamanders embryo to the frog embryo through the air. the result was that the frog embryo's dna was reconfigured to a replica of the salamander. then the frog embryo hatched, and out came a salamander.

why does this matter when talking about what may be happening to our dna?
what if the material dna in our flesh is not the only dna we carry around with us. i am proposing that perhaps we have a form of etheric dna as well. this dna, if it exists, would more than likely reside in the subtle energy layers that surround our physical body. it would be like the programming platform that manifests itself in the flesh.

if this where true then the first place that the geometry of the dna would become more complex would be in this etheric subtle energy dna. over the course of a designed time frame, the subtle energy dna would be upgraded due to the increased frequency of consciousness caused by the area of the galaxy our solar system is moving into.

this is where it ties into the experiment i wrote about above. we all know from dw's research that the luminosity of the solar system has been increasing due to the influx of energy from the galactic equator. this luminosity is expressed in the form of photons, or light particles. these photons may end up being the equivalent of the laser beam in the experiment. moreover, the upgraded dna in the subtle energies would be the equivalent of the salamander egg in the experiment.

if this where true, then once the influx of photon energy into the solar system got to a high enough concentration it may pass through the etheric dna of our subtle energies. it would then carry the torsian field signature of this etheric dna through the air and onto the dna of our material bodies. once this starts to happen then the dna of our flesh would take on the new complex geometry already present in the subtle energies.

so what do you all think, am i on the right track here?

[starborne]

well, that certainly sounds like it's possible. i never really though about an etheric dna before, but it does make sense. it's as if the light needs to be of a certain brightness to reach the inside layers of the onion. or, like the complex layers of trees in a rain forest; first light only gets the tops of the trees, later on the sun gets higher in the sky and brighter and therefore reaches deeper into the jungle. it's fun to brainstorm like this isn't it?

[annhutchinson]

greetings.. i am new to the forum but was totally blown away of the uncovering of the symbolism of the pineal gland and its role in our consciousness awakening and our "ascension" pathway.
i came across this information today while surfing the internet and am almost sure this symbol is alluding to the integral role of the pineal gland but folks are making up stories about it:

however, since i cannot show you photos/pictures of this symbol, you will have to research it on the web for yourself.

any comments anyone? david?

read on:


omphalos


the omphalos is a very common type of religious stone artifact/ tablet. the word omphalos means "navel" in greek. according to the ancient greeks, zeus sent out two eagles to fly across the world and they met at its center, the "navel" of the world - which the omphalos represents.

many records indicate that the omphalos stone was the holiest object at various oracle centers in all the lands bordering the mediterranean sea, the most well known being at delphi. it most likely originated from the "stone of splendor" associated with the canaanite god baal. the main characteristic of the omphalos/stone of splendor was its ability to allow direct communication with the gods.



most accounts locate the omphalos in the temple adyton near the pythia. the stone itself (which may have been a copy) has a carving of a knotted net covering its surface, and has a hollow centre, which widens towards its base. the omphalos at delphi came to be identified as the stone which rhea wrapped in swaddling clothes, pretending it was zeus. this was to deceive cronus, his father, who swallowed his children so they could not grow up and depose him as he had deposed his own father, ouranos.

omphalos stones were said to allow direct communication with the gods. leicester holland (1933) has suggested that the stone was hollow to channel intoxicating vapours breathed by the oracle. erwin rohde wrote that the python at delphi was an earth spirit, who was conquered by apollo, and buried under the omphalos, and that it is a case of one god setting up his temple on the grave of another. christian destruction of the site in the fourth century at the order of emperors theodosius i and arcadius makes all suggestions about its use tentative.

jerusalem: in the church of the holy sepulchre in jerusalem there is also an omphalos. the existence of this stone is based upon the medieval cosmology which saw jerusalem as the spiritual if not geographical center of the world (see t and o map). in fact, this tradition is likely based on an ancient jewish tradition that saw jerusalem as the navel of the world.

in the jewish tradition, the ark in the temple in jerusalem, through which god revealed himself to his people, was located on a foundation stone located on the navel of the world. (this jewish tradition is known to have begun in hellenistic times, when jews were already quite familiar with greek culture - and thus, might be a deliberate emulation of and competition with the above tradition regarding delphi).

omphalos wikipedia

[metaman]

here is the picture that you are referring to of the ompholos stone from delphi. certainly looks like a dead ringer for a pineal gland symbology. it has rods and cones covering its surface.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x102/bradwj1977/450px-omphallos.jpg

[aqcheryl]

i was rewatching a bit of 2012 the other day and i remembered that i have always chosen the pine tree as my favorite tree - its the one tree that i love the most.

i love collecting pine cones as well. and this was all well before knowing of the pineal gland.

so my question is... is there anything about this tree in regards to spirituality? i mean, the pineal looks like a pine cone as we say - rather than the pine cone looks like a pineal. lol

even the smell of this tree, and the feeling i get whenever i am lucky enough to be near one, is... its almost like i feel like even though im there in this 3d world, that i could indeed be stepping on some border. you know one foot in california, the other in nevada. lol

i feel like theres more there, when near these trees. even to a sense that im being watched as well, but its all calm, and serene.. and just spiritual.

i was wondering if its just me.

[Triforce]

during the past few months a good friend and i had been doing alot of soul seeking, researching into the known secrets of the universe and exploring the more spiritual side of life. in finding out about the sheer size of our own galaxy alone, i was more than confident that their is more to life then what our senses and emotions tell us. one thing that struck me in particular was the quasar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/quasar) these super-massive entities are more powerful and dense than anyone could come close to comprehending. they are at the same time one of the greatest destroyers of life and also one of the greatest supporters of life. quasars absorb all the matter around them within a few lightyears, much like a black hole, after all the matter around them is taken in, they expand to become a common galaxy. all my life i have felt a profound sense of purpose, i know that i am here for a reason, and through my life i have had many near death experiences where i should have been killed but have come out of the event with not more then a scratch. during the past few months i have had a very strong feeling that something big is going to happen soon.

about a week ago i came across davids videos 'the 2012 enigma' these videos blew my mind, not only because of the information he presented, but most of all i already formulated some of his information in my mind without ever hearing about it, these videos simply affirmed my feelings. now i am patiently waiting for the events to unfold, excited to finally see intelligence, reason, and spirituality become the fundamental pillars of our race

[Quaisar]

well, considering i just finished 2012 enigma, and read the last post triforce made explaining a bit about quasars (which my nickname is quaisar, derived from quaisar), i figured this synchronistic moment to be a perfect time to create my first post.

i intuitively sense a lot of what david wilcock says in many of his interviews, is at least partially true (to me at least, this has no bearing on you necessarily, but yes it does). it seems to me to be very explicitly shown in his interviews and talks, the importance of love, self awareness, discernment and definitely doing your own research. being your own scientist with your own lab!

i feel that dw makes great great sacrifices for all of us, and is ultimately doing much service to others. he may not have all of the answers, but he sure has a whooooole lot of insight!

i am grateful for this wonderful forum and it's inhabitants, and hope i can be of service to all of you in any way. thank you

[hilmy]

this is my first post here.

this is an aside...david mentioned in 2012 enigma, when doing healing work, to "wash your hands from the elbow downwards to remove (?) energy" i wonder if anybody can point me to other references for this. i am intrigued because, in the muslim ablution before prayer, one of the requirements is to wash the hands from/to elbows.

thanks for any insight.

hilmy

[ascended master]

after watching the 2012 enigma a few times, i saw a striking similarity between the upper portion of the lgt which lights up and alternate with bright blue color and this blue light than also rotates/alternates from the american idol commercial shown just before the show resumes from commercial. did anybody notice that? it's unfortunate american idol is over.
is there a message in there as well?

ascended master

[mmariebored]

after watching the 2012 enigma a few times, i saw a striking similarity between the upper portion of the lgt which lights up and alternate with bright blue color and this blue light than also rotates/alternates from the american idol commercial shown just before the show resumes from commercial. did anybody notice that? it's unfortunate american idol is over.
is there a message in there as well?

i know this is stating the obvious but everything has a 'message' in it because everyone want their voice to be heard, of course, the best messages are the ones of pure intentions, because it reaches everyone, not just a small few.

blue has a calming and hypnotic effect, it's no wonder american idol is so popular. i never watch tv, only clips here and there on the internet, so it seemed weird to me that so many people who did watch that show were so enthusiastic about it and insistent on gathering more viewers to the marvelment they found. most people don't stop to think about why they're so intrigued, but rather are simply grateful to be entertained. so, if there is any message here, it's that mindlessness is how you're wanted and chosen in this 3d, so you can be easily led by 'superior' powers.

[aqcheryl]

this is my first post here.

this is an aside...david mentioned in 2012 enigma, when doing healing work, to "wash your hands from the elbow downwards to remove (?) energy" i wonder if anybody can point me to other references for this. i am intrigued because, in the muslim ablution before prayer, one of the requirements is to wash the hands from/to elbows.

thanks for any insight.

hilmy

i dont know of any other references to it, but the purpose is because if you are essentially 'shedding' that energy. for example, you are healing someone who is ill, and that illness is attached to their energies, so you would want to shed it from you.... by working from the elbows down, you are wiping it off so to speak.
the opposite direction would be more taking it in, ingesting it...

i do not know much of the muslim prayers, but its possible that its because these are two separate things.... when you do a healing you need to shed the energy. when you are praying you want to take in the good light of energy that comes from such.

if the prayer is for healing work, then it could be possible that the prayer is working to heal in a different manner, in which you dont remove the energy from the person yourself.... instead youre taking in that light so that you can better infuse the person who is sick with that light.

its like two different kinds of healing.... one pulls the sickness away - and you have to get rid of it so you dont take on that illness yourself... and the other doesnt pull it away, instead it works on curing it.

[Berry Chastain]

in the practice if reiki, during a preparation time, the practioner goes through a process called hatsurei-ho which begins with the "sweeping" of negative energy off of the practitioner. it is the swiping the the hands alternately down from the shoulder off the tips of the fingers and alternately from the shoulders across the chest and out. the whole idea is to spiritually eliminate any negative vibrations that may be clinging to the facilitator. of course during the exercise, it in important the the intention of cleansing and drawing light to replace the negative in incorporated.

perhaps this give some insight to the query.

[starborne]

berry, i had no idea you knew reiki! are you just learning, or is this something you've been studying for awhile now?

[starborne]

one thing i've noticed after watching the 2012 enigma is the way i perceive the energy when doing reiki. it seems to be something more physical than non-physical. when i feel energies, i also see them... it goes hand in hand, one strengthening the other. i don't physically see anything, but when i close my eyes, i do see far more than i ever did after learning to open my third eye (as well as the rest of my chakras) while doing a healing.

i guess the best way to describe what i'm talking about is being able to open the inner eye and letting the light and love to soak in from the inside out, feeling it warm you like sunlight.

[Berry Chastain]

starborne,
i got my master level, shinpiden attunement almost two years ago.

[starborne]

berry, that's awesome! i myself received my usui tibetan master level a little over 2 years. it shows greatly that you live the "attitude of gratitude". :)

[Berry Chastain]

berry, that's awesome! i myself received my usui tibetan master level a little over 2 years. it shows greatly that you live the "attitude of gratitude". :)



in the words of usui,

just for today
don't get angry
don't worry,
show appreciation,
be grateful.
work hard, be kind to others.

this is the philosophy of reiki.

if this doesn't follow the law of one, i am greatly misguided.

in the love and light of our one infinite creator.
berry

[Honza2211]

hello everyone :)

i was wondering does a completed transcript of the great david´s video documentary "the 2012 enigma" exist somewhere? please help! does anybody have it already?

i follow david´s work on divinecosmos and i have watched most of his excellent project camelot video interviews as well.. i see completed transcripts on divinecosmos for example for the recent radio shows etc, but "the 2012 enigma" transcript seems not to be posted anywhere..

i feel this is a key work/documentary to intruduce more people to this subject and david´s work. in other words for "newbies". i feel it would be great to have a completed transcript posted on the site or within the forum.. why? simply because to wake more people up from the nescience.

the "2012 enigma" video could gain popularity again and the next logical step is to translate it to other languages, etc. this is the vision i have:cool:

any comment is greatly appreciated.

by the way i´m not a newbie, in fact my interest "in other things" started in young age as i boy age 7, i had a strong intrerest in universe and solar system and the journey for knowledge and understanding started and didn´t stop til now:)

have a great weekend everybody

**an incarnated lyran living on earth**:)

jan

[meganarline]

hi jan,

as part of the transcription team i can tell you that the 2012 enigma has been transcribed and forwarded to david.

my guess is that he's been too darn busy to post it or for some reason doesn't want to post it at this time.

not sure what to suggest but it does exist.:)

have a great weekend your self too!

megan

[weboy78]

hello my friends
now 2012 enigma is also in italian
i've translated the audio and one my friend made the subtitles!
thank you david!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkkwu0fxdmk&eurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.altrogiornale.org%2fnews.php&feature=player_embedded#t=64

[HelioHelix]

when i was looking through a list of publishers that are backing apples ibook store for it's upcoming ipad i noticed that penguin (david has previously stated that penguin was publishing his book) was in that list of publishers. i was wondering if that means that david's upcoming book would be available for sale on the ibook store? if so that would be pretty sweet.

[vortexhealer]

so i was watching on google video 2012 enigma and came to the part where david is talking about the looking glass technology (omg i remember seeing an article about a star-gate being discovered and thats what they war was really about and it totally resonated!), and david says (and its about at 55:28 in to the video)"...."and why i don't think thats what's going on at all. i do have a negative doom and gloom view of the future...." but there is a cut right after the word do. so i am wondering what you actually said david, i think you meant- i do not...but i haven't been here too much recently, i don't think thats your opinion. if i am wrong, i am sorry don't want to start up something lol. i am just wondering if already your video has been altered by, well you can imagine who! and my quoting is as close as i can get to what i believe i heard listening to it. again my apologies if wrong.

just don't want a different message to get out after all your hard work.

[onething]

i watched that video, and that is not what i heard him say. i heard him say "i don't"