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sol72us@...
11-29-2001, 02:50 PM
am i sts or sto?
am i density 1 or density 7?
am i operating in sto or sts mode?
these are self centered questions.
they are an indication of sts.

how can i help out?
how can i be of service?
how can i help to benefit others?
these are the questions an sto will
habitually ask.

mudpuppy
11-29-2001, 07:29 PM
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><font face="ocr a extended">how can i help out?
how can i be of service?
how can i help to benefit others?
these are the questions an sto will
habitually ask.</font>
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><font face="ocr a extended">no, i don't think so. these are questions a confused, bumbling, paranoid, anxiety ridden person like a wannabe jesus freak would habitually ask. people that are highly "charged" don't ask themselves silly questions like that. they're too busy doing what they enjoy, and they don't care whether it's for themself or others cause they know that the "high" is thenourishment andthe goalof the game. you don't getnourishment by eatingthe recipe.</font>
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am i density 1 or density 7?
am i operating in sto or sts mode?
these are self centered questions.
they are an indication of sts.

how can i help out?
how can i be of service?
how can i help to benefit others?
these are the questions an sto will
habitually ask.

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sol72us@...
11-30-2001, 07:16 AM
mudpuppy,

thank you for your passionate response.
unfortunately, i don't understand what you
mean by "eating the recipe." please clarify
this part in the context of your response.

thanks,
pat


--- in asc2k@y..., "mudpuppy" <mudpuppyman@y...> wrote:
> how can i help out?
> how can i be of service?
> how can i help to benefit others?
> these are the questions an sto will
> habitually ask.
>
> no, i don't think so. these are questions a confused, bumbling,
paranoid, anxiety ridden person like a wannabe jesus freak would
habitually ask. people that are highly "charged" don't ask
themselves silly questions like that. they're too busy doing what
they enjoy, and they don't care whether it's for themself or others
cause they know that the "high" is the nourishment and the goal of
the game. you don't get nourishment by eating the recipe.
>
> mudpuppy
>
>
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> am i density 1 or density 7?
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> these are self centered questions.
> they are an indication of sts.
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> how can i be of service?
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mudpuppy
11-30-2001, 08:42 AM
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>pat, "eating the recipe" means living one's lifebased onanexternal"recipe". fundamentalist christians, for example, live their livesbased onan interpretation of the bible. no wonder they are able to commit such atrocities on the people that they determine from their "recipe" are "of satan". this is sts, unconsciously in most,masquerading as sto.
>
>mudpuppy
>
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<tt>mudpuppy,

thank you for your passionate response.
unfortunately, i don't understand what you
mean by "eating the recipe." please clarify
this part in the context of your response.

thanks,
pat


--- in asc2k@y..., "mudpuppy" <mudpuppyman@y...> wrote:
> how can i help out?
> how can i be of service?
> how can i help to benefit others?
> these are the questions an sto will
> habitually ask.
>
> no, i don't think so. these are questions a confused, bumbling,
paranoid, anxiety ridden person like a wannabe jesus freak would
habitually ask. people that are highly "charged" don't ask
themselves silly questions like that. they're too busy doing what
they enjoy, and they don't care whether it's for themself or others
cause they know that the "high" is the nourishment and the goal of
the game. you don't get nourishment by eating the recipe.
>
> mudpuppy
>
>
> ----- original message -----
> from: sol72us@y...
> to: asc2k@y...
> sent: thursday, november 29, 2001 4:50 pm
> subject: [asc2k] what are the questions?
>
>
> am i sts or sto?
> am i density 1 or density 7?
> am i operating in sto or sts mode?
> these are self centered questions.
> they are an indication of sts.
>
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> how can i be of service?
> how can i help to benefit others?
> these are the questions an sto will
> habitually ask.
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incarnateisa@...
11-30-2001, 09:23 AM
i just wanted to add to this the concept that there are no
questions on the path only answers. there is nothing to be
done which is not done. there is nothing which is not sts and
nothing which is not sto as we are ourselves because we are
others. separation and distinction will only add confusion. i
know this will not be popular here but i ask that you consider it.

incarnations
dpld

--- in asc2k@y..., "mudpuppy" <mudpuppyman@y...> wrote:
> pat, "eating the recipe" means living one's life based on an
external "recipe". fundamentalist christians, for example, live
their lives based on an interpretation of the bible. no wonder
they are able to commit such atrocities on the people that they
determine from their "recipe" are "of satan". this is sts,
unconsciously in most, masquerading as sto.
>
> mudpuppy
>
> ----- original message -----
> from: sol72us@y...
> to: asc2k@y...
> sent: friday, november 30, 2001 9:16 am
> subject: [asc2k] re: what are the questions?
>
>
> mudpuppy,
>
> thank you for your passionate response.
> unfortunately, i don't understand what you
> mean by "eating the recipe." please clarify
> this part in the context of your response.
>
> thanks,
> pat
>
>
> --- in asc2k@y..., "mudpuppy" <mudpuppyman@y...> wrote:
> > how can i help out?
> > how can i be of service?
> > how can i help to benefit others?
> > these are the questions an sto will
> > habitually ask.
> >
> > no, i don't think so. these are questions a confused,
bumbling,
> paranoid, anxiety ridden person like a wannabe jesus freak
would
> habitually ask. people that are highly "charged" don't ask
> themselves silly questions like that. they're too busy doing
what
> they enjoy, and they don't care whether it's for themself or
others
> cause they know that the "high" is the nourishment and the
goal of
> the game. you don't get nourishment by eating the recipe.
> >
> > mudpuppy
> >
> >
> > ----- original message -----
> > from: sol72us@y...
> > to: asc2k@y...
> > sent: thursday, november 29, 2001 4:50 pm
> > subject: [asc2k] what are the questions?
> >
> >
> > am i sts or sto?
> > am i density 1 or density 7?
> > am i operating in sto or sts mode?
> > these are self centered questions.
> > they are an indication of sts.
> >
> > how can i help out?
> > how can i be of service?
> > how can i help to benefit others?
> > these are the questions an sto will
> > habitually ask.
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sol72us@...
11-30-2001, 11:12 AM
mudpuppy,

thanks for the clarification.
i love your spirit, where have you been?
you correctly recognize that i'm no expert.
sts/sto is a simple minded distinction,
black and white thinking that doesn't work.

my post is based upon the truth that the
quality of the habitual questions we ask
influences the quality of our lives.

so mudpuppy, what are the questions?
what questions can we ask ourselves that
will empower our contribution?

love,
pat





--- in asc2k@y..., "mudpuppy" <mudpuppyman@y...> wrote:
> pat, "eating the recipe" means living one's life based on an
external "recipe". fundamentalist christians, for example, live
their lives based on an interpretation of the bible. no wonder they
are able to commit such atrocities on the people that they determine
from their "recipe" are "of satan". this is sts, unconsciously in
most, masquerading as sto.
>
> mudpuppy
>

mudpuppy
11-30-2001, 07:19 PM
<table bgcolor="#ffffff">
>pat, thanks for the appreciation.
>
><font face="ocr a extended">quality of the habitual questions we ask
influences the quality of our lives.</font>
><font face="ocr a extended">what questions can we ask ourselves that
will empower our contribution?</font>
><font face="ocr a extended"></font>
>first of all, i would say that to think in terms of contribution is saying that we are not good enough just being ourselves.being ourselves is our contribution. being ourselves makes us complete in each moment. being ourself charges us, polarizes us to our destiny. that is what we share with others, our being.
>all habitual questions are nothing but evasions of our truedesire/will in the present moment. isn't this true? aren't these habitual questions nothing more than guilt trips, fear trips, orother mindtrips? what's the payoff that we're looking for,.... approval, enlightenment, love? the sts forces have been mind ****ing us for melleniums. all these mind trips are just playing into their greasy hands. they are experts at turning us against ourselves and each other. and most people are unconscious "contributors" to the imprisonment of themselves and others. wake up! be honest, be yourself, get laid alot(with open heart), and don't let people turn you into the sheeple that they are. there is a saying that one becomes like the company they keep. i think the most important thing a person can do is find others that they can be totally honest with, and then practice total honesty until it hurts. don't try this with strangers or other sheeple though, unless you are ready for the consequences. how many people can even be totally honest with their lover, spouse, etc? relationships have become contracts! i love where ra refers to marriages as "adversarial relationships". it's so true, these days, isn't it? the surface is smooth, but underneath it's nothing but a non-verbal contract with a very real all hell breaks loose, if violated, clause.
>the "all that is" is doing nothing but being itself.... all that is, that is. why should we settle for being anything less than ourself..... the self that is, that is.
>
>mudpuppy
>
>
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style="font: 10pt arial">subject: [asc2k] re: what are the questions?
>
<tt>mudpuppy,

thanks for the clarification.
i love your spirit, where have you been?
you correctly recognize that i'm no expert.
sts/sto is a simple minded distinction,
black and white thinking that doesn't work.

my post is based upon the truth that the
quality of the habitual questions we ask
influences the quality of our lives.

so mudpuppy, what are the questions?
what questions can we ask ourselves that
will empower our contribution?

love,
pat





--- in asc2k@y..., "mudpuppy" <mudpuppyman@y...> wrote:
> pat, "eating the recipe" means living one's life based on an
external "recipe". fundamentalist christians, for example, live
their lives based on an interpretation of the bible. no wonder they
are able to commit such atrocities on the people that they determine
from their "recipe" are "of satan". this is sts, unconsciously in
most, masquerading as sto.
>
> mudpuppy
>


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mudpuppy
11-30-2001, 07:37 PM
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><font face="ocr a extended">there is nothing which is not sts and
nothing which is not sto as we are ourselves because we are
others. separation and distinction will only add confusion. </font>
><font face="ocr a extended"></font>
><font face="ocr a extended">i don't agree. i find it to be greatly enlightening to understand the difference between the two. one cannot become unified until oneacknowledges/sensitizes oneself toall apparent parts,through reflection. living in denial is not the same as unity, although those living in denial would deny that.</font>
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><font face="ocr a extended">mudpuppy</font>
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style="background: #e4e4e4; font: 10pt arial; font-color: black">from: incarnateisa@earthlink.net
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style="font: 10pt arial">sent: friday, november 30, 2001 11:23 am
style="font: 10pt arial">subject: [asc2k] re: what are the questions?
>
<tt>i just wanted to add to this the concept that there are no
questions on the path only answers. there is nothing to be
done which is not done. there is nothing which is not sts and
nothing which is not sto as we are ourselves because we are
others. separation and distinction will only add confusion. i
know this will not be popular here but i ask that you consider it.

incarnations
dpld

--- in asc2k@y..., "mudpuppy" <mudpuppyman@y...> wrote:
> pat, "eating the recipe" means living one's life based on an
external "recipe". fundamentalist christians, for example, live
their lives based on an interpretation of the bible. no wonder
they are able to commit such atrocities on the people that they
determine from their "recipe" are "of satan". this is sts,
unconsciously in most, masquerading as sto.
>
> mudpuppy
>
> ----- original message -----
> from: sol72us@y...
> to: asc2k@y...
> sent: friday, november 30, 2001 9:16 am
> subject: [asc2k] re: what are the questions?
>
>
> mudpuppy,
>
> thank you for your passionate response.
> unfortunately, i don't understand what you
> mean by "eating the recipe." please clarify
> this part in the context of your response.
>
> thanks,
> pat
>
>
> --- in asc2k@y..., "mudpuppy" <mudpuppyman@y...> wrote:
> > how can i help out?
> > how can i be of service?
> > how can i help to benefit others?
> > these are the questions an sto will
> > habitually ask.
> >
> > no, i don't think so. these are questions a confused,
bumbling,
> paranoid, anxiety ridden person like a wannabe jesus freak
would
> habitually ask. people that are highly "charged" don't ask
> themselves silly questions like that. they're too busy doing
what
> they enjoy, and they don't care whether it's for themself or
others
> cause they know that the "high" is the nourishment and the
goal of
> the game. you don't get nourishment by eating the recipe.
> >
> > mudpuppy
> >
> >
> > ----- original message -----
> > from: sol72us@y...
> > to: asc2k@y...
> > sent: thursday, november 29, 2001 4:50 pm
> > subject: [asc2k] what are the questions?
> >
> >
> > am i sts or sto?
> > am i density 1 or density 7?
> > am i operating in sto or sts mode?
> > these are self centered questions.
> > they are an indication of sts.
> >
> > how can i help out?
> > how can i be of service?
> > how can i help to benefit others?
> > these are the questions an sto will
> > habitually ask.
> >
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Difrt@...
11-30-2001, 09:05 PM
--- in asc2k@y..., "mudpuppy" <mudpuppyman@y...> wrote:
one cannot become unified until one acknowledges/sensitizes oneself
to all apparent parts, through reflection. >
> mudpuppy

dear mudpuppy,
are you refering here to reflection as in the mirroring yourself in
others (perception creates reality), or are you speaking of personal
thought reflection? please expand on your aknowledges/sensitizes.
thanks.
karen

sol72us@...
11-30-2001, 11:55 PM
mudpuppy,

thanks for your interest.
i appreciate your replys very much.

i did my best to glean simple questions
from your post, this is what i came up with:
why do anything?
why not just do nothing?
why ask questions?

not exactly what i had in mind,
but i'll start asking them habitually and
see if they foster growth for the good of
the whole.

they kind of remind me of how much of a
cop-out i am, maybe in a perverted way
they will make me feel more compelled.

gratefully,
pat

sol72us@...
12-01-2001, 12:42 AM
dpld,

thanks for your comments!

problems are gifts from god.
problems take shape with questions.
answers are no fun unless we wrestle with questions.
the process of answering questions facilitates solving problems.
we grow through this process of working on problems.
sometimes we create more problems in our solutions,
giving us more opportunities to grow and evolve.

"no problem can stand the assault of sustained thinking" -voltaire

gratefully,
pat


--- in asc2k@y..., incarnateisa@e... wrote:
> i just wanted to add to this the concept that there are no
> questions on the path only answers.
>
> incarnations
> dpld

Jeremy Weiland
12-01-2001, 03:42 PM
glad to see all the discussion going on! usually
checking asc2k is my first email priority, but lately
i've been preoccupied (final exams coming up + crunch
at work). it's good to be able to follow the
conversation for a while without having to constantly
engage it :-)

> first of all, i would say that to think in terms of
> contribution is saying that we are not good enough
> just being ourselves. being ourselves is our
> contribution. being ourselves makes us complete in
> each moment. being ourself charges us, polarizes us
> to our destiny. that is what we share with others,
> our being.

agree. i mean, seriously, can we be anything *but*
ourselves?

> all habitual questions are nothing but evasions of
> our true desire/will in the present moment. isn't
> this true?

i don't believe that's neccessarily true. habitual
questioning of the self can be a way to become clear
about what it is one really wants. it's a form of
discipline, if you will, a way of quantifying at a
given time what one's conscious goals are. if you are
asking these questions of yourself, i agree that it
doesn't mean you are sto by default, just for asking
yourself these questions, but if your honest with
yourself, you could get answers that will help you
move along the path you have chosen more efficiently.

i don't think this questioning approach has to
neccessarily be a supression of desires. as long as
one is honest with oneself, there cannot be any
conflict of interest among the various facets of
personality. obviously, the honesty with the self is
a primary trait that needs to be cultivated in order
for any spiritual progress to take place. it is only
when all the facets of the personality are
acknowledged and none are denied that they can be
truly integrated.

> they keep. i think the most important thing a
> person can do is find others that they can be
> totally honest with, and then practice total honesty
> until it hurts.

once you're honest with yourself, being honest with
others is the next logical step, since you are
progressing towards the understanding that you and the
others are one.

so, in conclusion, i think you and pat are *both*
right. i guess you just have to be yourself, and
experience what you experience.

jeremy

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mudpuppy
12-02-2001, 06:31 PM
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>karen, i have gotten real sensitive to my feelings lately. my mother is dying of drug side effects, and i'm the only one in the family that knows how and wants to help her. everyone else is in denial..even her. as a result, i have broken all contact with my family except my mother. i should have done this a long time ago...for my own self esteem and mental health, but i was in denial of just howmuch theydisrespect me and my knowledge. this realization of "the way things really are" in my family has forced me to address feelings in me that have been suppressed for forty years. i wish i would have owned these feelings a long time ago. i guess you could say that the life and death situation here has forced me into self reflectionand self expression to a degree of intensity/sensitivity that only life and death situations often do.
>
>mudpuppy
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>
<tt>--- in asc2k@y..., "mudpuppy" <mudpuppyman@y...> wrote:
one cannot become unified until one acknowledges/sensitizes oneself
to all apparent parts, through reflection. >
> mudpuppy

dear mudpuppy,
are you refering here to reflection as in the mirroring yourself in
others (perception creates reality), or are you speaking of personal
thought reflection? please expand on your aknowledges/sensitizes.
thanks.
karen


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sol72us
12-05-2001, 11:37 PM
mudpuppy,

you have shared a remarkable story.
these thoughts came to mind after reading it.

our personal relationships are a subset of all of our
relationships. close relationships can be considered
marriages, tight bonds that can involve commitment.

we have limited capacity to work on all of our
relationships simultaneously, so there are natural
trade-offs that we make. a trade-off isn't necessarily
a cop-out, as growth in one area can empower us in
others.

by acting, we foster interaction. interaction fosters
change, and growth is a form of change. discomfort can
be a byproduct of acting, and sometimes challenges are
dead ends leading nowhere, but we grow regardless.

there is no marriage with growing elements that is
static. like any relationship, marriage can be
adversarial. adversity could be considered a challenge,
an opportunity for growth. the advantage a marriage has
is that since the bond is tighter, the potential for
growth is higher. you live in close proximity to the
challenges and it's more difficult to avoid them.

addictions are like static marriages, marked by
stagnation. opportunity for growth lies in
confronting the challenge of breaking the addiction.

denial, an inability to accept reality as it is, is
a means of coping by way of distorting perception.
denial helps us deal with security addictions at
the cost of leading us astray.

in the interests of self-realization, it may be more
conducive to growth to be involved in close unions,
and embrace their adversarial nature as fertile means
of growing. to be involved with such relationships
means trading off time from less important ones.

gratefully,
pat

--- in asc2k@y..., "mudpuppy" <mudpuppyman@y...> wrote:
> karen, i have gotten real sensitive to my feelings lately. my
mother is dying of drug side effects, and i'm the only one in the
family that knows how and wants to help her. everyone else is in
denial..even her. as a result, i have broken all contact with my
family except my mother. i should have done this a long time
ago...for my own self esteem and mental health, but i was in denial
of just how much they disrespect me and my knowledge. this
realization of "the way things really are" in my family has forced me
to address feelings in me that have been suppressed for forty years.
i wish i would have owned these feelings a long time ago. i guess
you could say that the life and death situation here has forced me
into self reflection and self expression to a degree of
intensity/sensitivity that only life and death situations often do.
>
> mudpuppy
> ----- original message -----
> from: difrt@a...
> to: asc2k@y...
> sent: friday, november 30, 2001 11:05 pm
> subject: [asc2k] re: what are the questions?
>
>
> --- in asc2k@y..., "mudpuppy" <mudpuppyman@y...> wrote:
> one cannot become unified until one acknowledges/sensitizes
oneself
> to all apparent parts, through reflection. >
> > mudpuppy
>
> dear mudpuppy,
> are you refering here to reflection as in the mirroring yourself
in
> others (perception creates reality), or are you speaking of
personal
> thought reflection? please expand on your aknowledges/sensitizes.
> thanks.
> karen
>
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