Fido and the Dearly Departed

[Karen]

First time poster. I’ve done my homework, but am still utterly confused about 2012, so I apologize in advance if this seems naïve to the regulars here.

It seems to me there are two possible outcomes to the 2012 scenario:

(1) we’re in for an evolutionary leap of some sort, a DNA activation, a 4th dimensional existence, whatever…triggered by massive energy shifts and resulting in less body, more spirit. Sounds great. :)

Or …

(2) a distinct astronomical event, s.a. Galactic alignment or Planet X entering our solar system and setting off a catastrophic deluge that destroys most life on Earth, with the survivors left behind in some harsh, bleak, dilapidated version of the world to try and pick up the pieces and start over. Ouch. :mad:

I guess they could coincide, galactic cataclysm causes dimensional shift. Planet, people, plants… all jump onboard the 4D train. But from what I’ve read, some think there will be people left behind, still in 3D. Opinion appears to be that love vibrations are the key to moving up. So what about poor Fido? Talk about unconditional love…if anyone will advance, Fido will. No?

If not, if Earth, animals, some humans, remain in 3D, then what happens to the people who’ve gone on to 4D? OK, I guess Earth can co-exist in 3D and 4D, parallel universes or something. But certainly everyone who dies in 2012 doesn’t evolve, and everyone left behind isn’t trapped in 3D for another cycle. So, some move on to this new, what… 4D soul group, and the others die to… the old 3D soul group? Which brings me to another question…

What about our already-dead relatives? Aren’t they all currently in the 3D soul group, will they inevitably reincarnate to 3D again? Or will grandma go to 4D, grandpa to 3D? And do only 3D beings die and reincarnate? Does the after-death existence have nothing at all to do with this dimensional shift question? If not, why should we care what happens when we die in 2012?

I know I shouldn’t be so confused after all these years of research, but I feel like I just keep going around in a circle. I am sincerely grateful for your thoughts.

Karen

[butterfriends]

Hi Karen
I 'genuinely' think spending too much time thinking about 2012 would send most people round in circles. I used to spend a lot of time thinking about it, not so much now.

I think I've posted this before, but how I see change happening is bottom up rather than top down, so at an individual, familial, community, local level rather that an enormously impactful external event. My gut feel, and I'm sure I've read somthing David wrote (excuse my being rubbish at sourcing quotes), is that things may happen differently for different people.

Re Fido - there was a post in the general board recently that talked about animals that might be helpful :)

Your statement:
Does the after-death existence have nothing at all to do with this dimensional shift question? If not, why should we care what happens when we die in 2012?

Yep, that pretty much sums up what I think about it all. The dimensional shift is merely a focal point for change being as it is a change in planetary dimension, the soul's journey moves ever forward at all times, and some souls do chose to 'graduate' after the natural end of ther incarnation.

[daresh]

Hi Karen,

Well according to the law of one and david his work our 3D bodies are not complementary with 4D so they will die when the dimensional shift happens. But it will be nothing like the normal death proces, it's an ascension. Not much is known about the exact circumstances. The people who are in the after life will also be harvested. You see the dimensional shift is for the whole planet and everybody bound to this planet so also the people in the after life.
This is clearly explained in the law of one books.
The population will be split in 3 ways
those of service to others orientation will remain here on earth in 4D positive
those of service to self orientation will go to a 4D negative planet
and those who don't made a clear choice and lack clear orientation will have to repeat the 3D cycle on another 3D planet.
So nobody is left behind, it's all part of the proces of soul evolution.

I agree with butterfriends that in the end 2012 is secondary, this moment counts, the truth is in every moment as every moment contains love.
If we were born 2000 years ago would it change anything?
Of course it is exciting and a very interesting time but the essence remains the same, learning the lessons, growing, love

greets,
Filip

[Mermaid]

Hi Karen,

Well according to the law of one and david his work our 3D bodies are not complementary with 4D so they will die when the dimensional shift happens. But it will be nothing like the normal death proces, it's an ascension. Not much is known about the exact circumstances. The people who are in the after life will also be harvested. You see the dimensional shift is for the whole planet and everybody bound to this planet so also the people in the after life.
This is clearly explained in the law of one books.
The population will be split in 3 ways
those of service to others orientation will remain here on earth in 4D positive
those of service to self orientation will go to a 4D negative planet
and those who don't made a clear choice and lack clear orientation will have to repeat the 3D cycle on another 3D planet.
So nobody is left behind, it's all part of the proces of soul evolution.

I agree with butterfriends that in the end 2012 is secondary, this moment counts, the truth is in every moment as every moment contains love.
If we were born 2000 years ago would it change anything?
Of course it is exciting and a very interesting time but the essence remains the same, learning the lessons, growing, love

greets,
Filip


Well, you have made it clearer than anything I have read. The only question which is best? A negative would be a bad place imo. If you stay here, the earth will still have chemtrails, bad soil, tornados, or will it be a paradise?

[daresh]

I don't understand your question which is best.
If you go to 4D positive it will be completely different, continous love, I'm not sure if the experience would be on this physical plane, but I don't think so.
Compared to earth it will be a 100 time more harmonious, so indeed it will be paradise...
If it is better then negative or repeating 3D well, in the big picture it is all soul evolution and growing back to oneness so it does not matter in unity.
But it depends what you want and what you think is the best, that's the whole reason we are here in 3D, to make choices.
4D positive seems the most attractive and truthfull to me :)

greets,
Filip