animals

[Ricdaw]

interesting sts/sto parallel, perhaps?

"but there is another, newly discovered, feature of dog body language that may surprise attentive pet owners and experts in canine behavior. when dogs feel fundamentally positive about something or someone, their tails wag more to the right side of their rumps. when they have negative feelings, their tail wagging is biased to the left."

the rest of the article is here:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/24/healthscience/snmood.php

[jax]

it's hard to tell on a rottweiller but i'll try to pay attention to her stump...:d

[charran]

ricdaw,

that was a really good find on the dogs tails and the meaning of a right or left wag. i'll definitely keep it in mind as i run into lots of dogs on my walking adventures.

i have something that might be of interest too. just when you thought you knew everything there is to know about the animal kingdom something else really startles you that you didn't know. really, just look at the link from the ny times. it's worth it.

article is titled: "in ducks, war of the sexes plays out in the evolution of genitalia"

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/01/science/01duck.html?ex=1178683200&en=614b1c698e97811e&ei=5070&emc=eta1

you will definitely be surprised :)

charran

[soup]

tonight i was looking at the big screen tv's for sale, they're about
five feet across and in high definition it almost looks like you could
reach through the screen and touch the artist playing the music
which the tv is projecting.

i consider each "pixel" as a carrier of digital information which makes
it all possible. it is not simply a digitization of on/off or black/white
but a digitization of three color channels each having many bits of
intensity (i.e. a grayscale) which when combined gives that pixel
the right contribution so that when someone stands back to a point
where the pixel becomes blended with adjacent pixels - not grainy
pixelation is apparent. this is a wonder of modern technology.

i think that left/right tail wags of a dog are similar by analogy, that
the amplitude of the tail wag could be digitized into 32 bit resolution
and with proper color balancing we ourselves could get off the whole
low-tech mode of thinking (on/off, black/white, sts/sto) and step
back to enjoy the big picture...

[Believe]

kind of hard to tell with my golden retriever. his entire body basically wags with his tail back and forth! :)

[soup]

i love the name "dana" because i met a beautiful "dana" in a yahoo group called "rainbow reiki tribe", she's a beautiful lightworker who helped me discover gallstone cleansing in a way which rejuvenated me last year...

[janetm]

i haven't submitted anything yet and hope i'm doing it right.
my concerns and question marks about 2012 are as daunting as anyone's. but one subject hasn't yet been addressed. when we ascend to 4d (those of us who do), will our beloved pets accompany us? who fosters love and compassion more ardently than they - and who deserves to live among the higher positive energies more than they?
thanks in advance for your reply.
janetm

[estopatitiana]

i have to say i share your concerns 100%, better yet 1000%! it has been on my mind for a significant amount of time, ever since i read the law of one, i have had so many questions come up as to how a certain idea or concept applys to animals. i have another thread called questions on second density. i got a great response, but many questions are left unanswered simply because i havent seen a whole lot of channeling or research done on this subject. but from what ive heard is that they will be around with us when the planet is fourth density. however, after watching davids interviews with project camelot and learning about how the earth will have 3 different planes of existance, it made me even more confused. because the positive polarity folks will go to one plane where everything is great, the people who arent harvestable will basically live life like nothings changed, and the negative will experience the earth changes and go underground. that made me wonder, are all the plants and animals going to be left to suffer with the negative guys? or will they split in the 3 planes? so this made me force myself to the realization that maybe its time for the second density on earth to depart, however cruel it may be. look at venus, it supported second, third fourth and now its fifth and sixth, and im pretty sure its atmosphere would fry any fragile animal we know of here. so i came to the realization as thier planet changed, the animals could no longer physically survive there.

ive also wondered if you could be service moslty to other second density selfs, the answere is probably yes, but i dont know for sure. and i also dont know if they have free will. because i think its time to give back to them after all the millenia of exploitation. am i a bad person for wanting to help this planet not only for herself and us, but mostly for them?, because they are the ones out there really in the environment, breathing the air, drinking the water, trying there best to mid their own buisiness. maybe there will be an entity out theier from the confederation soley dedicated to helping second density that someone will channel and get all these things cleared up.
im sorry if i made things more confusing but i share your concerns.

[butterfriends]

i'm a bit out of date with what information is where, but i remember animals being discussed in depth a couple of times on the yahoo forum - might be worth doing a search of the archive to get some differing opinions?

my apologies in advance for a stumbling reply that oversimplifies your question, but my general thinking is that as pet 'owners' we are only the caretakers of them in their current incarnation. they are on their own journey of development too, and, in general, at a differnet stage in their journey than us.

my understanding is that the souls who incarnate as 'pets' are on a fast track to 3d, benefiting from their interactions with us in developing their growing sense of self-awareness. i'm sure anyone who has had a close bond with an animal knows of souls who seem more human at times that people we may encounter. however, i do not believe that they will ascend with us - rather they will move further along their own path.

[janetm]

thank you both for your replies.
i supposes one answer is to simply love, care for and appreciate all our pets and wild animals as the precious god-gift they are - in the here and now. i'm sure the fourth density will contain like gifts of the creator's artistry for evolving souls to nurture and learn from. it's thrilling to look ahead to the magnificent adventure that awaits us!

[Ewhaz]

i think the unfortunate answer to this is that they stay here. now, it may seem cruel but in reality they are on a totally different path than we are. they are still 2nd density spirits for one thing, and for another they are group souls... which means if you have a cat, or a dog, it's soul is shared among many animals. those experiences are all integrated into the one soul after all the animals pass away.

so in wanting your one dog or cat to come with you, you would end up diverting an entire soul to be split up between possibly 3 different dimensions. i'm not saying it's not possible but they still have their own evolution to go through in 3rd density first before they can join us in 4th.

now besides all that, it's been stated several times that it will be possible to return to this 3rd density world after we've ascended into 4th. so you'll be able to check on your pets in time. more than that you may even be able to share their experience with them for a time, getting a true understanding of what their evolution was like.

[symbolon]

i don't think there is any need to worry. i don't think the creator would want to separate you from an animal/s that you once loved.

[Ranna]

this is exactly what i'm worried about.
in the intervies of david i don't hear nothing about it.

i don't realy care what happens to me but i do worry about (our) animals.

but than again, if i recall correctly, i heard david say that in the other density the world is going to be just like this world, with houses, cars etc. so in that way i hope they go with us.

[AmelieJolie]

what i would hope for is for all the animals and creatures to come through into the higher, more harmonious dimensions and for all the people who aren't ready to choose compassion yet to carry on fighting with each other until they are ready to "ascend"......however, i say leave the animals out of it! they're coming with us!! :)

otherwise, i shall be cross! :mad:

:d

[rich.nowak]

there is another web site that answers your question with a "channelled" answer. the short answer is yes, they will transition with us.

things will be different. the lion will lay down with the lamb, (not just metaphorically). the animals will transition to vegetarian diets. many species will become extinct for enviromental reasons. the best example is the polar bear which i have always favored as my favorite wild animal.

[morawaj]

i know this is a bit unusual for this forum, but i wanted to share this short story of a special bond between two animals that i just watched.

if anything it might raise your vibration up just a tad by warming your heart. :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afz-fmj-9ps

may we all come to share such fundamental feelings like this for each other and other living creatures!

peace,
john

[angiem]

i ask, like the presenter, what is wrong with us.
this is beautiful and thank you i really needed that:)

[estopatitiana]

i know this is a bit unusual for this forum, but i wanted to share this short story of a special bond between two animals that i just watched.

if anything it might raise your vibration up just a tad by warming your heart. :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afz-fmj-9ps

may we all come to share such fundamental feelings like this for each other and other living creatures!

peace,
john

yes, this video just warms your heart. i love that sanctuary.

[transiten]

wow!

that made me cry and that's what i needed at the moment! for me it's easier to love an animal unconditionally than a human...i love my dog, i don't have any children, i have a dysfunctional upbringing and know that's the reason...

...but i'm working on my feelings for you guys too;)

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[starborne]

thank you for that video, that really does warm your heart. :d it brought a tear to my eye too!

[starborne]

since this seems to be the pets section of the board, i'll share something with you all that i found to be pretty amazing. i have a small crystal collection that i use for meditation and healing. i had them out earlier this evening along with my mother, who also has a few crystals of her own. my cat bozo is curious of anything new that she hasn't seen yet, and even more curious when it's something that we have. my mother had a rose quartz crystal that she presented to the cat who sniffed it curiously as she usually does, but then pulled away when she got close to the stone. i at the time had my rose quartz that i held out for bozo to look over, which she didn't get too close to, but i also had a piece of sodalite which i held out for her to sniff. i expected her to have the same reaction, but much to our surprise she put her nose right up to it and rubbed her face on it once. i then took out my amethyst which, as soon as i did, her attention was focused on the crystal. i presented it to her, and she immediatly started rubbing her face on the crystal multiple times and with great force too! just to be sure this wasn't a fluke, i took the sodalite out again, which she did rub her face on, but not as intently as she did with the amethyst. i then took out the rose quartz again, and before i could get it near her, she pulled away and sat down. at this point i was pretty amazed as was my mother. i took out the amethyst again, and when the cat saw the crystal, she stood up again and arched her back a bit, and walked toward the crystal to rub her face on it a few more times, but purring pretty loudly now. my mother then took out her citrine which is actually the same thing as amethyst, except that it's an orangish-yellow due to it have being heated to a few hundred degrees. it's litterally burnt amethyst. as soon as my mother put it near her, she pulled away fast, her eyes went wide as she started looking all around as if there was something there. her tail then puffed up as she went running down the hall, clearly spooked.

i do realise that certain crystals have certain frequencies to them, but i never expected my cat to have such varied reactions to them. just so you all know, all our crystals are kept in the same black velvet bags. they have not been treated with anything with any scent to it, so i don't think smell had anything to do with it. has anyone else found a cat or any other animal have a reaction to certain gems or crystals like this?

[Rhonda]

hi starborne, with the approaching full moon tomorrow, your crystals would love a bath under the moon. the moon as well as the sun will clean and re-charge your crystals and they will love you for it. it might even address what ever energy that your cat is picking up on the various pieces. just like us, they too, will pick up various energy flowing through.

i have used sea salt and water to rinse them, then after the night, if i can, i would re-rinse with just water and allow the sun to dry. be careful about sea salt, some stones will not handle it., malachite is one of those..... pure water is fine too with perhaps just simple "earth" soil...

now, i need to pull my stone together and get them out in the moon light ...

[starborne]

rhonda,

thanks for the insight. i pretty much knew what was going on, the full moon last night must have amplified the energy of the crystals. my mother brought out the citrine for the cat today and she didn't react negatively to it at all. last night, she also tried swatting it with her paw before she took off. we're guessing the citrine was shunting the negative energy from my step-father as he does seem to be a bit more balanced today.

i currently have my crystals bathing in the moonlight, even if it's not full tonight it can't hurt them any. i'll try charging them in the sun tomorrow when i put my plants in the window. i've never tried the sea salt and water method, i'll have to read up what other crystals could react with it.

i don't have any malachite yet, but i'd love to get some. i'm going to get my self an obsidian merkaba later this week. i'm currently trying to acquire a flourite merkaba (preferably), or an amethyst merkaba, and also a piece of prehnite. those, along with the malachite are hard to come by. do you know of any good sources to find some of these hard to find crystals?

thanks again!

love and light,

jon

[Djonne]

hello guys.
i found this very cute video.
it's basically just a baby crying, and the dog starts howling almost like if he knew that it would calm the little guy.

http://www.wimp.com/malamutecalms/

i don't know why but hearing a dog/wolf howling always give me chills and almost makes me cry. i don't know if it's only because i love the sound or because i am linked to these.
anyway, it's nice to see that the dog knew what to do to calm down the little guy or girl!:) ^_^

[lebowski san]

in the past year or so, i have had this bizarre ability to attract wild animals and cats. for some reason cats just love me. i like cats too and i always pet them or rub their tummies, but i'm talking like pied piper of hamelin attraction.

wild animals too. if i walk around town or hiking, something always appears. other folks in town have never seen some of the animals i have in the wild and they've lived here their entire lives. once in calgary last year, i was walking with my wife on nose hill when a giant 5 point white tail buck reared out of the grass about 3 or 4 yards from where i stood.

who knew i'd grow up to be grizzly adams?

[LordDragon]

@lebowski san


other folks in town have never seen some of the animals i have in the wild and they've lived here their entire lives.

hi lebowski san, i have the same capacities. wild birds of prey, wild dear, wild swines, wild cats, they all seem to find me interesting; i once had a meeting with a whole hord of wild dear in the middle of the night in the ardennes. the male dear the leader approached me and was smelling me. than as the hord passed we stood head to head, it was wonderfull, and i love the sound of the call of dear.

i do not have a solid explanation, but i believe your smel, also changes as you colors of your aura change while you are evoluating. maybe if annimals do not smell fear our agression, they become curious?

i have two cat's here, we communicate by sound, eye signals, touching and, by projecting images. when i'm painting upstairs and the food for the cat is empty she comes sitting with me and sends some images, so that i know i have to fill the little bucket again. when i am sleeping sometimes the cats come into my dreams, the funny thing is that in those dreams i can really talk with the cats.

@ starborn


i do realise that certain crystals have certain frequencies to them, but i never expected my cat to have such varied reactions to them. just so you all know, all our crystals are kept in the same black velvet bags. they have not been treated with anything with any scent to it, so i don't think smell had anything to do with it. has anyone else found a cat or any other animal have a reaction to certain gems or crystals like this?

yes my cats also seem to prefer some of my crystals; some crystals they want to play with, so i assume they think it is alive? or maybe they can see the aura of the crystals and are affected to the colors? it's funny though, they make differences between crystals.

blessings, ld.

[morawaj]

lebowski san & lorddragon,

i have a personal question and if you care not respond that's perfectly fine. i was wondering if you are a meat eater, vegetarian or vegan? while i am a meat eater i don't know that i could harm an animal (excluding fish which i currently will catch and clean) unless i was in dire needs of consuming them. i was kinda curious if animals might "sense" that.

peace,
john

[lebowski san]

i'm not a vegetarian or a vegan. i do eat meat, but not too much as it is rather expensive where i live and it is imported from the us, canada or australia. plus, i don't really trust a lot of the food industry in general - especially the meat industry. i eat a lot of fish - salmon, raw, daily - and eggs.

when i first moved here i thought that the salmon or tuna scent was attracting the cats, but there was a while when i didn't eat anything but veggies and rice due to being broke and the cats still came! i'm hoping they are coming up to me just 'cuz i'm a really groovy guy. i'm also think my vibes are very non threatening which makes them curious. of course, they're animals so they are spooked by sudden movements if they see me before i see them.

:)

[LordDragon]

hi moraway

i do eat meat, but not every day. and i try to only eat meat which comes from annimals whom had a little bit of good life. (bio farm, hunt).

on the other hand your question is interesting. i go hunting with birds of prey, and sometimes it's amazing to see how close the bird of prey can get to his prey without being noticed. it's like the bird of prey has some camouflage technique so that it isn't seen as a bird of prey. some birds of prey are trained to hunt free, like hawks, they go in the trees and use the cover to get closer to their prey. ive seen rabbits sitting still eating even while they had seen the bird of prey in the trees, it doesnt seem to interest them. but the moment the hawk starts the attack flight the rabbit immediatly starts to run. i believe it's the action, when you start hunting the prey feels a different vibe. it senses when the predator has the intention to kill.

i saw a documentary once in which a leopard was hunting. while it was hunting the hord of dear ran away. but next day the leopard crossed the field with the hord of dear again, and leopards have a white pointed tail. by crossing the field with the white point of the tail uplifted above the long grass, the leopard walked in between the dear and not one of the dear ran away. :)

i really think it's the intention and the vibe coming along with it. i agree annimals can sense this.

blessings, ld.

[aqcheryl]

i wanted to throw something in the mix here - in regards to animals in general. finally people are starting to realize its arrogant to think we are the only intelligent beings in the galaxy, and realizing also that just maybe on this planet in regards to what they used to deem as "lesser creatures".

i have cats myself and they are highly intelligent, i do believe they too reincarnate, and some are possible reincarnations of humans.

but i saw this photo on icanhascheezburger today and had to share - animals know the concept of love towards each other, its a really touching photo :)

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/funny-pictures-these-are-significant-otters.jpg

[estopatitiana]

i believe that wildlife is more in tune with ours and others true intentions. i say this because i work with around 10-30 different dogs every week or so and when i am in bad moods some dogs do not change thier demeanor and remain friendly while others no matter what my mood are terrified of me. i have realized talking has almost no purpose with dogs. it only elevates thier anxiety when in large groups. domestic dogs are more in tune with our body language and read that rather than our words. i believe many of our indoor domestic animals have lost thier connection to nature as many of us have too. and are not as "in tune" as wildlife

[Berry Chastain]

i can't help but agree with you about animals loving one another. i have two dogs and two cats who think they are all human and when the word love is mentioned in the house they all come running for some.
here is a video of animal love which gave me such a delightful lift this morning, it made my day. hope you all enjoy as much as i did. what a wonderful world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv_5m9lfsbc

[aqcheryl]

i can't help but agree with you about animals loving one another. i have two dogs and two cats who think they are all human and when the word love is mentioned in the house they all come running for some.
here is a video of animal love which gave me such a delightful lift this morning, it made my day. hope you all enjoy as much as i did. what a wonderful world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv_5m9lfsbc

thanks for that video - i cant help but see that bunny thinking 'sheesh get a room' rofl but its a beautiful thing, i wonder what the story is.

[Purple Dragon]

awesome video, it goes to show how the love instinct is throughout our planet even though a lot of third density entities fail to remember it. it's great to see that our second density life is still progressing towards the light :)

[Alexander]

courtesy of mercola.com, i found out about this vid -


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxa6p73awcg

or you can find it with searching "face-off with a deadly predator" on youtube.com



it shows what david has spoken about, how the nature of some predatory animals are changing.

[noppy]

animals sure changes during these times of change

i always thought my dog could not understand me till my father said something to him and he perfectly understood it.... i felt rick rolled

my cats also changed, they react on what i think. i said something in my mind that they look like a gremlin and suddenly they looked at me with a strange look in there eyes.

and bumble bees or honey bees don't sting you so fast anymore, i had sunflowers in my garden and they just ignore you, that never happen. i've heard that if the bees disapear , it's over within 3 years with our planet and no more honey !!!.
if it helps i'm gona do my best to plant flowers every were

[piermarie]

hi, i believe that our pets are very connected to us just like our family. as we choose the family to be born into so we choose the pets and they choose us in spirit. it is all connected and we get much blessings from them.

pets can have different levels of souls that incarnate into the pet body depending on the person whom they will be the pet. mostly pets who have a loving caring person are usually higher level beings (say a soul who can just as well be a human or higher) but choose to come into this world as your pet for a reason and they know you very well and wish to help you very much.

in this case the pet will evolve with you into 4th level if they wish because of the loving connection with you. and they may have choosen to rise to 4th level in a pet body instead of a human body for reasons.

also pets have a different brain structure. they are always in contact with the divine spirit and can see into the realm of no-time meaning see the past and future. they can see connections of people around you and so its a good idea to listen to your pet if they like or dislike someone in your life, they would know if this was a good relationship for you or not depending on what you are wanting to learn in this life.

this goes for all animals, they are open to the divine light always but they dont let people know it. those that can communicate with animals will know.

a comment about the animals some people eat,

these loving animals are also divine spirits inside them, they do not want to be killed for food. the fear and hurt and pain goes into their body at dealth, try to imagine what they are feeling, this energy goes into your body and brain when you eat them and keeps your vibration at a low frequency near the vibrations of fear.

it is better for all humans to eat a vegetarian diet as we go into the 4th level, the level of the heart, compassion and love for all.
also your pets can be vege too, mine are and are super healthy and loving.

[transiten]

hello piermarie

i have a wonderful shorthaired collie and we are extremely close. i feel he is my guide somehow and it would be wondeful if he ascended with me...if i do. i must object though that the pets always know who is good for you. i had an extremely destructive codependency relationship with a borderline man but he always treated the dog well and gave him good things to eat although he was emotionally disturbed (like myself of course) and treated me extremely bad half of the time.

so, my pet did not tell me that this was a person that was not good for me.

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[piermarie]

yes i understand what you are saying, i mean "what is good for us" actually maybe a test or struggle is some way according to our karma. like if you need to grow in protecting yourself and becoming strong to overcome someone who is mistreating you. or you need to work out the karma with the person somehow, our dogs and pets will not interfer with our fixed karma that is in place for us to grow and work out.

but our pets know if something that we do or not need to do because they can see the akashic records.

also our pets have different purposes and gifts on how they plan to help us in our life.
for instance they may help us bring out the unconditional love we all can share, or they may help us concentrate, or help us in our meditation and our vibration, or help us be in tune to nature or help us feel conforted and loved, or bring us laughter and joy or learn to care for another being, any other thing, there are so many ways they can bless us.

i am sure we can all think of how our pets are helping us. you can ask them also. i hear that anyone can learn to communicate with their pets. some animals communicate with pictures, by sending pictures and feeling to them in telepathy they also may respond in pictures and feelings too. there are many books and web sites that teach how to learn to communicate with animals.
this is what i belive. thanks.

[Cynthia II]

i haven't submitted anything yet and hope i'm doing it right.
my concerns and question marks about 2012 are as daunting as anyone's. but one subject hasn't yet been addressed. when we ascend to 4d (those of us who do), will our beloved pets accompany us? who fosters love and compassion more ardently than they - and who deserves to live among the higher positive energies more than they?
thanks in advance for your reply.
janetm

hi janet --
you said, "who fosters love and compassion more ardently than they-" exactly! they are our angels, our helpers with ascension, i.e. most of them know exactly what is going on and have started the ascension process, just as we have. they already live among the higher positive energies, our egos just seem to have a real hard time grasping that fact. if you truly have a soul connection with your pet(s), which it sounds like you do, they will probably stay with you just as they are now. make no mistake, they don't need us, we need them. most animals which have not yet become extinct (can handle the earth changes) are ascending along with every other being on the earth. that includes our wild animal friends, too. i hope the elephants make it!! i'm thinking they will.

[jellyfish]

i'm glad to have found this thread just to express myself.

a little over two weeks ago, my happy, sweet little cat piper disappeared into thin air. i've done everything i can to find her and get her back home safe and sound, but no luck at all. i've been terribly worried and heartbroken about this, as she was way more than "just a cat" to me. i often questioned who/what she really was just because the level of unconditional love she showed to me was just mystifying sometimes. she would sit there and actually talk to you w/ all her little chirps and sounds. you could just talk to her and she would answer every time. there was a listening and a communication there that was deeply from the heart and i miss her so bad.

my only comfort at this point is that we might be somehow reunited after ascension and i can tell her how sorry i am that i couldn't find her. the thought that she is scared and alone somewhere out there is killing me.

if you're out there piper, be safe, be at peace and know that i love you so much and in any way i can be, i am with you. hope to see you again soon, sweetie.

[Djonne]

hello all.

i started volunteering at a local shelter and sadly, looks like i'm allergic to dogs and cats.
and, on top of that, my career dream is to become a dog behaviorist/trainer, whatever the name.

i did work for a few months in a place filled with dogs, i had trouble for the first 2 weeks,
(eyes crying, itchy throat, sneezing) then it came down and went well after that.

do you guys think that meditation and healthy food would help me, and focus my energies on these allergies? my desire is really there, and it comes from *nowhere*.

may i have your opinion:)
thanks

[Mikazo]

hi djonne.

some claim that if you are exposed enough to dogs and cats, your body can develop a resistance and the allergies may go away. i used to subscribe to an animal rights publication and someone who wrote for it suggested it. you might give it a try, but i can't make any promises!

[Mikazo]

i picked up a book that talked about edgar cayce and indigo children, and leafing through it i was particularly stricken by a story recounted by a child in the book. she mentioned that she was very distraught over destruction of the local environment, and then a spirit fox came and comforted her, letting her know that someone understood her concerns. there has to be more to the animal kingdom than meets the eye.

i would like to know what kind of evolutionary path the animals are on. will they evolve to the point of being able to communicate and interact with us? i think even ben fulford suggested the possibility of animals being able to coexist better with humans than they currently do, even sharing cities with us. it does get rather lonely on earth, considering that presently apes and dolphins are the closest to being able to communicate on our level.

[Djonne]

well indeed, we could have a much better way of comunicating with *animals*.
it's just that with time, we, humans, lost that ability.
the more time i am surrounded with them, the more i seem to be able to feel them.

[TuxedoCat]

i definitely believe that animals are "special". my cat is most definitely way smarter than most people give him credit for. he's shown up in most of my lucid precognitive warning type of dreams and not just ones when i'm asleep in my bed with him but even did it once while i was 14 hours away. whenever i'm gone and i come back home, he is always waiting in the drive way for me. it's like he can sense i'm coming home and he goes out there to wait for me.

[ginaraye]

my dog, lola, and i have dreamt together. i think we do it often but i only remember twice. my first lucid dreams were with her. we swam a canal to get to the store to get a slimjim for her, she'd never had a slimjim before! i thought the water would be icy cold, but it was warm and thick. when i woke i said to myself, but there's no canal in front of the reagor springs store, there's an asphalt highway. we swam across the highway like it was a canal. cool!

another dog friend, rocks, a german shepherd, and i once went to the desert overnight. the next morning we were standing by the road waiting for someone to pass and give us a lift back to town. rocks was sniffing the roadway when a car approached and slowed down, then, some people are really horrible, or maybe it was a carload of evil djinn [ie genie]?, the car sped up and hit the dog on purpose. rocks came flying through the air above my head fractured into pieces, dog fractals, then spun together in a ball and landed on the pavement the other side of me, a good 30 feet all together and he was all put back together again with only, thank god, a cut along the tendon of his foreleg. the car had disappeared (?).

the town i live in now, dahab, south sinai, some of you may know it, is full of stray dogs. the bedouin, being goat people, hate and fear dogs. most egyptians also fear dogs. then there is the fundamentalist stupidity of believing dogs to be impure so if one prays regularly one must avoid them (farts are impure too but they still eat beans!). it is the first time in my life in my everything that i see dogs frightened of children, even of children who are obviously loving towards them. some of these children torture dogs, some are just conditioned to fear them, and a few, including many of the tourist children, naturally love dogs. my point is that everything seeks balance. dog energy is about 1) fidelity 2) being at home in your body 3) freedom of expression. all of these qualities are suppressed in local society.

just an observation. an indicator of how important non-human earth creature energies, consciousness patterns, are. do you remember the trees that were part of don juan's warrior's party?

it's all so wonder-full... i just hope it's not too hot today so i can maintain an awareness of it! i've read all my 'snow' books already this summer!

[Pien]

hi,

i am wondering if there are more people here who have a special bound with animals.
my experience from my childhood on is a little weird, animals and i mean a lot of different species (cats, dogs, horses, even wild ones ect...) are always coming directly at me and do not want to leave me. even the owners of the animals are always saying that it is not normal the way they behave when i am around... sometimes it is a little annoying because they latterly don’t want to leave my site where ever i want to walk to... of course i am an animal lover and i have a lot of them but i never see anybody who has the same thing with animals and i am curious if there are more people with this type of thing (it is not a problem)
and how you react to it..?

love,
pien;)

[avmc]

(...)
hi there.

i too, have always had likings for animals in general, specially cats and birds. ever since i "initiated" my conscious spiritual path (started this with the material in dc!), i seem to attract more animals than before, and seem to be fascinated at them even more. i do not attract them as much as you, it would seem, but the ordinary household pets, always seems to be fond of my presence, because they tend to go to the same house locations that i am on (including fishes and turtles on some occasions).

this particularly happens with the dog of my girlfriend (i only go once a week to her home), as he seems to go to which ever room i am on more than 5 minutes (unless i close the door... and often he tried to open the door in such cases.

other cats that people in general say "don't touch him too much, he will attack you", seem to like me too.
while the cat will hiss, move away or throw a fang at people in general, he does not do that with me (only if i bug him too much xd), and lets me caress him and purrs a little.


my grandmother (which i would say vibrates pretty much at the "unconditional love" vibration, always sacrificing herself for others and for animals) also finds it very dificult to move around in the house, because her cats are always rubbing at feet/legs, knocking her balance off ... and if windows are not closed, often pigeons will enter the house looking for her!!! kinda funny to be on the living room and see a pigeon head poking out from the kitchen or out from the inner hall! its not funny having to clean their leftovers though :p

[hoppppe]

hi

i have always loved animals and had pets all my life
i own dogs cats birds and reptiles
always felt a connexion with them and thought they were smarter than many people i know.
recently though i had other animals come to me for no reason
even birds
if im sitting outside on a patio,i always have birds come at the table and more than one

i often wonder what will happen to them with the changes we are going through
i really dont want to be separated from my pets
they are my children
any thoughts on that?

[cameronjcw]

i have to admit in a way it was purely for selfish reasons, maybe partly in a way to help me feel better.

my wee cat who is about 22 years old which makes him probably about 90 in cat years is dying. some time this week i am probably going to have to take him to the vet and i know what the suggestion is going to be and im really struggling to handle it although in the last day or so i feel as if hes almost pleading with me the way hes looking at me so i think maybe its nearly time.

i just dont want him to suffer, hes gone downhill rapidly in the last couple of weeks and then again in the last week.

i feel as if i am somehow betraying him and i feel like its not up to me to decide if he dies or not even if it is to put him out of his misery. i know he hasnt got long left and i just hope hes not in any pain, hes still eating and drinking but hes just not himself at all and i feel devastated.

i would prefer it if he could just go in his sleep without any pain here at home in familiar surroundings. i dont even own the flat i have so i cant even bury him in the back garden when the time does come.

im just going to miss him so much we have had him for 12 years and hes a lovely wee cat, hes always been such a friendly wee cat, never attacked anyone, always safe to have around children, even small children and we have had him since my daughter was about 4 so she has grown up with him. i feel like or rather i know i have some kind of mental block going on and although its right in front of me its almost like i cant bear to really see it even though i know whats going on. ive sat crying a few times in the last few days just thinking about whats happening and whats going to happen.

his name is lucifer and he really is the light of my life apart from my daughter. he is like my child too and i think as fondly of him as i do my own daughter. i just wish it didnt have to happen. :( sorry for my rant there.

i just keep thinking its not up to me to decide wether he lives or dies and if it was any person i cared about i wouldnt just have them put down because they were sick although i dont want him to be in pain. it might sound stupid but its reminding me of my wee granny when she was dying. i guess death is just part of life. i just want to know whatever happens he isnt suffering and he is going to be ok.

[WeR1]

my heart goes out to you big time i totally understand your dillema!!!! my kitty was a similar age and i hung onto her probably longer than i should have, but who knows what to do!!!??? just know that in passing any pain is alleviated and that he will be with you always. that's a fact.!!!

[WeR1]

i definitely do understand i'm overwhelmed and crying thinking about my kitty she was such a free spirit and had my determination which perhaps no one else has ever understood. don't worry he'll always be with you.:) it's true!!!

[cameronjcw]

thanks so much. hes still here with me and he seems a little brighter the last two days. i had requested reiki for him, not expecting a miracle but he does seem a little better, still sleeping and eating and not much more but today he has been more alert and awake enjoying being petted now and then and getting food anytime he wants it lol

he really is a fighter i still dont feel right about having him put to sleep at all i really dont feel as if its just the right time yet, maybe its blind faith of some sort but he does seem kind of contented and relaxed. anyway thanks again!! he seems like such a wise wee cat an old spirit thats been around for a long time. i am taking him to the pdsa (free vet) on friday to see what they say if they think hes ok to go home and just go in his own time then thats what i will do, long as hes not in any pain, maybe they might be able to give him some pain relief if he needs it. i have no idea. thanks again for the understanding. hes really much more than a pet, hes my wee man. ive always said hes the man of the house :)

[cameronjcw]

my wee cat passed away about half ten tonight, me and my daughter were with him, he went really fast. im still in shock but am glad he did go at home with us rather than in a vet, it was defintiely the right time. am gonna miss him so much :( r.i.p. my wee luciferx

[Chris Hamilton]

aww, my sincere sympathies cameron. my husband and i put to sleep our super loveable lab at 16 years two weeks ago. i was traumatized and still cry as i think of our loss, sigh.

i wanted to add to this thread because the theme of this thread is changes that people are experiencing coming up to 2012. we have kind of strayed in that subject, so if we want to talk about our wonderful dear pets, we do have a thread called "animals" i think. the search program with this new program is not the best, but if you search 'animal' you should get that thread. i will transfer all your wonderful pet postings there as soon as i find the thread. i love all of your remarks and thank you all for expressing your love to us. chris

[scottki]

i hope my question can bridge us back to the metaphysical. can any of the cat lovers out there explain to me why cats seem to like me more than dogs? i have never been around cats but whenever one appears in a restaurant for example, it is sure to come and rub its body on my leg and i am not even sure if i like cats! one time i visited a friend whose parents had adopted a rescue cat. it was so afraid that it would not come out from behind the curtains. however when i sat down on the sofa it came out and jumped on to my lap, to the open mouthed astonishment of his mother. she was even more annoyed when i stood up shouting 'get off me! please note that i did not know anything about the cat at that point.
dogs on the other hand give me a reserved welcome when they go crazy over some or most other people. i am not so curious about the dogs but more about why cats would approach me over others. anyone know?

[JonRamification]

too be honest mate i dont know about the cat thing, but i have similiar pattern. i found that when i dream about cats when patranise them by acting like there my pet and the sorts they go wild gripping my arms and trying to rip it to shred when i respect them and play around with them there genrally cool.
another curious thing abot cats is when they squint there eyes, this where they apperantly like you, this leds me to put two and two together but im not sure if im getting 5, as when i squint my eyes im much more likely to see interdimensional things like prana in the sky and the likes (relating to the thread as this is happening more and more)
symphazies camron my cat past away at a similiar age i was brought up with that cat it was the fith member of the family. i was distrute then i had a dream that it was messing around in the kitchen jumping around like it was a kitten then the back-door opened and this great white light was shinging through from the outside and she walked through. after that it was much better to accept. when it happenes i would suggest that you grieve what you must and let it go in love and in knowing hes not really gone and you will see him again, in some way or another im sure.

[cameronjcw]

im sure animals can see things that we cant see ourselves. lucifer was forever sitting and staring at something behind my shoulder. it used to creep me out a bit and im sure there was something there that he was picking up on. he was a really friendly cat and would always go to most people that came into my house even ones that didnt much care for cats, most people liked him but even people who werent so much animal people he would still want to have a nose round them and see what they were about.

i definitely think some animals like people are very wise. last year i had a bit of an epiphany. i had been trying to lie down to get rid of a bad migraine and lucifer was sitting above my head on the arm of the couch and was determined i wasnt having a lie down. i got this weird thing in my head that he was letting me know that everything was going to be ok, everything was as it should be and not to worry.

its only been two days and im missing my wee man like mad. everytime i went in the kitchen he would come in to get something cause he always knew most times he would get something off me. i used to buy cheese triangles for him now and then and other things that he liked. i was making pasta yesterday with smoked sausage in it and he would normally have got a bit of it. although he had got quieter in the last few months the house is still too quiet without him. i really miss him like mad.

someone suggested maybe getting a rescue cat which is a nice idea but im not sure im ready yet at all. we did have a look though and theres a wee disabled cat called ryley but we will see in a few days or more i really dunno. i miss my wee lucifer so much. i get a bit of a vibe from this other little cats picture, he has three legs and had to have one amputated because of a collar wound.

we will see what happens i feel really lost without my wee man, he was like my child. im hoping i can have some kind of dream about him that tells me hes ok. i had a dream a couple of months after my gran died where she was visiting me for a wee while and i asked her if she wanted to stay for a fry up and she said no it was time for her to go and i knew everything was going to be ok and that she was fine.

right now all i can do is think about him, his litter tray is still in the hall. i moved his food dishes today i really dunno i should get rid of the litter tray at least, even if i did get another cat i would need a new one but i just miss my wee lucifer so much.

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[saffire]

I am resurrecting this thread because I sense something is "up" with the animals too! First off, I've always been a big animal lover but it seems to be getting more intense recently. For example yesterday I went to my husband's grandparents' home and their cat immediately ran to me. "Buddy" ignores all the other people in the room and rubs all over my handbag, demands tummy rubs, etc. then falls asleep by my feet on his back with his stomach hanging all out. He does this every time! I winked at him and I tell you HE WINKED BACK AT ME! :p Cats especially I can feel some sort of energy exchange when this is occuring. Something is coming through my legs into the earth, and also from the earth back into me. The cats just drink it all in!

That is only the tip of the iceberg with me and animals. I've had helper dogs walk up to me in a crowd and prop me up. I've had hawks swoop at me. I've had birds in pet stores fly over to me. I can talk to just about any animal and they give me a knowing "look" but I'm not quite sure what it's all about. The most amazing of all is my two cats seem to be able to tell which of my body parts hurt on any particular day; they will stare at it as if they have X-ray vision! I think they know a lot more about what is going on than we do. I wonder if they are helping us through the 2012 changes.

As to why cats like certain people? My recent experiences have led me to wonder if cats are sensitive to energy work so will be drawn to people who know how to do that sort of thing.

- saffire