animals

[Ricdaw]

Interesting STS/STO parallel, perhaps?

"But there is another, newly discovered, feature of dog body language that may surprise attentive pet owners and experts in canine behavior. When dogs feel fundamentally positive about something or someone, their tails wag more to the right side of their rumps. When they have negative feelings, their tail wagging is biased to the left."

The rest of the article is here:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/24/healthscience/snmood.php

[jax]

It's hard to tell on a Rottweiller but I'll try to pay attention to her stump...:D

[charran]

Ricdaw,

That was a really good find on the dogs tails and the meaning of a right or left wag. I'll definitely keep it in mind as I run into lots of dogs on my walking adventures.

I have something that might be of interest too. Just when you thought you knew everything there is to know about the animal kingdom something else really startles you that you didn't know. Really, just look at the link from the NY Times. It's worth it.

Article is titled: "In Ducks, War of the Sexes Plays Out in the Evolution of Genitalia"

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/01/science/01duck.html?ex=1178683200&en=614b1c698e97811e&ei=5070&emc=eta1

You will definitely be surprised :)

Charran

[soup]

Tonight I was looking at the big screen TV's for sale, they're about
five feet across and in high definition it almost looks like you could
reach through the screen and touch the artist playing the music
which the TV is projecting.

I consider each "pixel" as a carrier of digital information which makes
it all possible. It is not simply a digitization of on/off or black/white
but a digitization of three color channels each having many bits of
intensity (i.e. a grayscale) which when combined gives that pixel
the right contribution so that when someone stands back to a point
where the pixel becomes blended with adjacent pixels - not grainy
pixelation is apparent. This is a wonder of modern technology.

I think that left/right tail wags of a dog are similar by analogy, that
the amplitude of the tail wag could be digitized into 32 bit resolution
and with proper color balancing we ourselves could get off the whole
low-tech mode of thinking (on/off, black/white, sts/sto) and step
back to enjoy the big picture...

[Believe]

Kind of hard to tell with my golden retriever. His entire body basically wags with his tail back and forth! :)

[soup]

I love the name "dana" because I met a beautiful "dana" in a yahoo group called "Rainbow Reiki Tribe", she's a beautiful lightworker who helped me discover gallstone cleansing in a way which rejuvenated me last year...

[janetm]

I haven't submitted anything yet and hope I'm doing it right.
My concerns and question marks about 2012 are as daunting as anyone's. But one subject hasn't yet been addressed. When we ascend to 4D (those of us who do), will our beloved pets accompany us? Who fosters love and compassion more ardently than they - and who deserves to live among the higher positive energies more than they?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
JanetM

[estopatitiana]

i have to say i share your concerns 100%, better yet 1000%! it has been on my mind for a significant amount of time, ever since i read the law of one, i have had so many questions come up as to how a certain idea or concept applys to animals. I have another thread called questions on second density. I got a great response, but many questions are left unanswered simply because i havent seen a whole lot of channeling or research done on this subject. But from what ive heard is that they will be around with us when the planet is fourth density. However, after watching davids interviews with project camelot and learning about how the earth will have 3 different planes of existance, it made me even more confused. Because the positive polarity folks will go to one plane where everything is great, the people who arent harvestable will basically live life like nothings changed, and the negative will experience the earth changes and go underground. That made me wonder, are all the plants and animals going to be left to suffer with the negative guys? or will they split in the 3 planes? so this made me force myself to the realization that maybe its time for the second density on earth to depart, however cruel it may be. look at venus, it supported second, third fourth and now its fifth and sixth, and im pretty sure its atmosphere would fry any fragile animal we know of here. so i came to the realization as thier planet changed, the animals could no longer physically survive there.

ive also wondered if you could be service moslty to other second density selfs, the answere is probably yes, but i dont know for sure. And i also dont know if they have free will. Because i think its time to give back to them after all the millenia of exploitation. Am i a bad person for wanting to help this planet not only for herself and us, but mostly for them?, because they are the ones out there really in the environment, breathing the air, drinking the water, trying there best to mid their own buisiness. maybe there will be an entity out theier from the confederation soley dedicated to helping second density that someone will channel and get all these things cleared up.
Im sorry if i made things more confusing but i share your concerns.

[butterfriends]

I'm a bit out of date with what information is where, but I remember animals being discussed in depth a couple of times on the yahoo forum - might be worth doing a search of the archive to get some differing opinions?

My apologies in advance for a stumbling reply that oversimplifies your question, but my general thinking is that as pet 'owners' we are only the caretakers of them in their current incarnation. They are on their own journey of development too, and, in general, at a differnet stage in their journey than us.

My understanding is that the souls who incarnate as 'pets' are on a fast track to 3D, benefiting from their interactions with us in developing their growing sense of self-awareness. I'm sure anyone who has had a close bond with an animal knows of souls who seem more human at times that people we may encounter. However, I do not believe that they will ascend with us - rather they will move further along their own path.

[janetm]

Thank you both for your replies.
I supposes one answer is to simply love, care for and appreciate all our pets and wild animals as the precious God-gift they are - in the here and now. I'm sure the fourth density will contain like gifts of the Creator's artistry for evolving souls to nurture and learn from. It's thrilling to look ahead to the magnificent adventure that awaits us!

[Ewhaz]

I think the unfortunate answer to this is that they stay here. Now, it may seem cruel but in reality they are on a totally different path than we are. They are still 2nd density spirits for one thing, and for another they are Group souls... Which means if you have a cat, or a dog, it's soul is shared among many animals. Those experiences are all integrated into the one soul after all the animals pass away.

So in wanting your one dog or cat to come with you, you would end up diverting an entire soul to be split up between possibly 3 different dimensions. I'm not saying it's not possible but they still have their own evolution to go through in 3rd density first before they can join us in 4th.

Now besides all that, it's been stated several times that it will be possible to return to this 3rd density world after we've ascended into 4th. So you'll be able to check on your pets in time. More than that you may even be able to share their experience with them for a time, getting a true understanding of what their evolution was like.

[symbolon]

I don't think there is any need to worry. I don't think the creator would want to separate you from an animal/s that you once loved.

[Ranna]

This is exactly what I'm worried about.
In the intervies of David I don't hear nothing about it.

I don't realy care what happens to me but I do worry about (our) animals.

But than again, if I recall correctly, I heard David say that in the other density the world is going to be just like this world, with houses, cars etc. so in that way I hope they go with us.

[AmelieJolie]

What I would hope for is for all the animals and creatures to come through into the higher, more harmonious dimensions and for all the people who aren't ready to choose compassion yet to carry on fighting with each other until they are ready to "ascend"......however, I say leave the animals out of it! They're coming with us!! :)

Otherwise, I shall be cross! :mad:

:D

[rich.nowak]

There is another web site that answers your question with a "channelled" answer. The short answer is yes, they will transition with us.

Things will be different. The lion will lay down with the lamb, (not just metaphorically). The animals will transition to vegetarian diets. Many species will become extinct for enviromental reasons. The best example is the polar bear which I have always favored as my favorite wild animal.

[morawaj]

I know this is a bit unusual for this forum, but I wanted to share this short story of a special bond between two animals that I just watched.

If anything it might raise your vibration up just a tad by warming your heart. :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFz-FMj-9Ps

May we all come to share such fundamental feelings like this for each other and other living creatures!

Peace,
John

[angiem]

I ask, like the presenter, what is wrong with us.
This is beautiful and thank you I really needed that:)

[estopatitiana]

I know this is a bit unusual for this forum, but I wanted to share this short story of a special bond between two animals that I just watched.

If anything it might raise your vibration up just a tad by warming your heart. :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFz-FMj-9Ps

May we all come to share such fundamental feelings like this for each other and other living creatures!

Peace,
John

yes, this video just warms your heart. I love that sanctuary.

[transiten]

Wow!

That made me cry and that's what i needed at the moment! For me it's easier to love an animal unconditionally than a human...I love my dog, i don't have any children, i have a dysfunctional upbringing and know that's the reason...

...but i'm working on my feelings for you guys too;)

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[starborne]

Thank you for that video, that really does warm your heart. :D It brought a tear to my eye too!

[starborne]

Since this seems to be the pets section of the board, I'll share something with you all that I found to be pretty amazing. I have a small crystal collection that I use for meditation and healing. I had them out earlier this evening along with my mother, who also has a few crystals of her own. My cat Bozo is curious of anything new that she hasn't seen yet, and even more curious when it's something that we have. My mother had a rose quartz crystal that she presented to the cat who sniffed it curiously as she usually does, but then pulled away when she got close to the stone. I at the time had my rose quartz that I held out for Bozo to look over, which she didn't get too close to, but I also had a piece of sodalite which I held out for her to sniff. I expected her to have the same reaction, but much to our surprise she put her nose right up to it and rubbed her face on it once. I then took out my amethyst which, as soon as I did, her attention was focused on the crystal. I presented it to her, and she immediatly started rubbing her face on the crystal multiple times and with great force too! Just to be sure this wasn't a fluke, I took the sodalite out again, which she did rub her face on, but not as intently as she did with the amethyst. I then took out the rose quartz again, and before I could get it near her, she pulled away and sat down. At this point I was pretty amazed as was my mother. I took out the amethyst again, and when the cat saw the crystal, she stood up again and arched her back a bit, and walked toward the crystal to rub her face on it a few more times, but purring pretty loudly now. My mother then took out her citrine which is actually the same thing as amethyst, except that it's an orangish-yellow due to it have being heated to a few hundred degrees. It's litterally burnt amethyst. As soon as my mother put it near her, she pulled away fast, her eyes went wide as she started looking all around as if there was something there. Her tail then puffed up as she went running down the hall, clearly spooked.

I do realise that certain crystals have certain frequencies to them, but I never expected my cat to have such varied reactions to them. Just so you all know, all our crystals are kept in the same black velvet bags. They have not been treated with anything with any scent to it, so I don't think smell had anything to do with it. Has anyone else found a cat or any other animal have a reaction to certain gems or crystals like this?

[Rhonda]

Hi Starborne, with the approaching full moon tomorrow, your crystals would love a bath under the moon. The moon as well as the sun will clean and re-charge your crystals and they will love you for it. It might even address what ever energy that your cat is picking up on the various pieces. Just like us, they too, will pick up various energy flowing through.

I have used sea salt and water to rinse them, then after the night, if I can, I would re-rinse with just water and allow the sun to dry. Be careful about sea salt, some stones will not handle it., Malachite is one of those..... pure water is fine too with perhaps just simple "earth" soil...

Now, I need to pull my stone together and get them out in the moon light ...

[starborne]

Rhonda,

Thanks for the insight. I pretty much knew what was going on, the full moon last night must have amplified the energy of the crystals. My mother brought out the citrine for the cat today and she didn't react negatively to it at all. Last night, she also tried swatting it with her paw before she took off. We're guessing the citrine was shunting the negative energy from my step-father as he does seem to be a bit more balanced today.

I currently have my crystals bathing in the moonlight, even if it's not full tonight it can't hurt them any. I'll try charging them in the sun tomorrow when I put my plants in the window. I've never tried the sea salt and water method, I'll have to read up what other crystals could react with it.

I don't have any malachite yet, but I'd love to get some. I'm going to get my self an obsidian merkaba later this week. I'm currently trying to acquire a flourite merkaba (preferably), or an amethyst merkaba, and also a piece of prehnite. Those, along with the malachite are hard to come by. Do you know of any good sources to find some of these hard to find crystals?

Thanks again!

Love and Light,

Jon

[Djonne]

Hello guys.
I found this very cute video.
It's basically just a baby crying, and the dog starts howling almost like if he knew that it would calm the little guy.

http://www.wimp.com/malamutecalms/

I don't know why but hearing a dog/wolf howling always give me chills and almost makes me cry. I don't know if it's only because I love the sound or because I am linked to these.
Anyway, It's nice to see that the dog knew what to do to calm down the little guy or girl!:) ^_^

[lebowski san]

In the past year or so, I have had this bizarre ability to attract wild animals and cats. For some reason cats just love me. I like cats too and I always pet them or rub their tummies, but I'm talking like pied piper of Hamelin attraction.

Wild animals too. If I walk around town or hiking, something always appears. Other folks in town have never seen some of the animals I have in the wild and they've lived here their entire lives. Once in Calgary last year, I was walking with my wife on Nose Hill when a giant 5 point white tail buck reared out of the grass about 3 or 4 yards from where I stood.

Who knew I'd grow up to be Grizzly Adams?

[LordDragon]

@lebowski san

Other folks in town have never seen some of the animals I have in the wild and they've lived here their entire lives.

hi lebowski san, i have the same capacities. Wild birds of prey, wild dear, wild swines, wild cats, they all seem to find me interesting; I once had a meeting with a whole hord of wild dear in the middle of the night in the Ardennes. The male dear the leader approached me and was smelling me. Than as the hord passed we stood head to head, it was wonderfull, and i love the sound of the call of dear.

I do not have a solid explanation, but i believe your smel, also changes as you colors of your aura change while you are evoluating. Maybe if annimals do not smell fear our agression, they become curious?

I have two cat's here, we communicate by sound, eye signals, touching and, by projecting images. When i'm painting upstairs and the food for the cat is empty she comes sitting with me and sends some images, so that i know i have to fill the little bucket again. When i am sleeping sometimes the cats come into my dreams, the funny thing is that in those dreams i can really talk with the cats.

@ starborn

I do realise that certain crystals have certain frequencies to them, but I never expected my cat to have such varied reactions to them. Just so you all know, all our crystals are kept in the same black velvet bags. They have not been treated with anything with any scent to it, so I don't think smell had anything to do with it. Has anyone else found a cat or any other animal have a reaction to certain gems or crystals like this?

Yes my cats also seem to prefer some of my crystals; Some crystals they want to play with, so i assume they think it is alive? Or maybe they can see the aura of the crystals and are affected to the colors? It's funny though, they make differences between crystals.

Blessings, LD.

[morawaj]

lebowski san & LordDragon,

I have a personal question and if you care not respond that's perfectly fine. I was wondering if you are a meat eater, vegetarian or vegan? While I am a meat eater I don't know that I could harm an animal (excluding fish which I currently will catch and clean) unless I was in dire needs of consuming them. I was kinda curious if animals might "sense" that.

Peace,
John

[lebowski san]

I'm not a vegetarian or a vegan. I do eat meat, but not too much as it is rather expensive where I live and it is imported from the US, Canada or Australia. Plus, I don't really trust a lot of the food industry in general - especially the meat industry. I eat a lot of fish - Salmon, raw, daily - and eggs.

When I first moved here I thought that the Salmon or Tuna scent was attracting the cats, but there was a while when I didn't eat anything but veggies and rice due to being broke and the cats still came! I'm hoping they are coming up to me just 'cuz I'm a really groovy guy. I'm also think my vibes are very non threatening which makes them curious. Of course, they're animals so they are spooked by sudden movements if they see me before I see them.

:)

[LordDragon]

Hi moraway

I do eat meat, but not every day. And i try to only eat meat which comes from annimals whom had a little bit of good life. (bio farm, hunt).

On the other hand your question is interesting. I go hunting with birds of prey, and sometimes it's amazing to see how close the bird of prey can get to his prey without being noticed. It's like the bird of prey has some camouflage technique so that it isn't seen as a bird of prey. Some birds of prey are trained to hunt free, like hawks, they go in the trees and use the cover to get closer to their prey. Ive seen rabbits sitting still eating even while they had seen the bird of prey in the trees, it doesnt seem to interest them. But the moment the hawk starts the attack flight the rabbit immediatly starts to run. I believe it's the action, when you start hunting the prey feels a different vibe. It senses when the predator has the intention to kill.

I saw a documentary once in which a leopard was hunting. While it was hunting the hord of dear ran away. But next day the leopard crossed the field with the hord of dear again, and leopards have a white pointed tail. By crossing the field with the white point of the tail uplifted above the long grass, the leopard walked in between the dear and not one of the dear ran away. :)

I really think it's the intention and the vibe coming along with it. i agree annimals can sense this.

Blessings, LD.

[aqcheryl]

I wanted to throw something in the mix here - in regards to animals in general. Finally people are starting to realize its arrogant to think we are the only intelligent beings in the galaxy, and realizing also that just maybe on this planet in regards to what they used to deem as "lesser creatures".

I have cats myself and they are highly intelligent, I do believe they too reincarnate, and some are possible reincarnations of humans.

But I saw this photo on icanhascheezburger today and had to share - animals know the concept of love towards each other, its a really touching photo :)

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/funny-pictures-these-are-significant-otters.jpg

[estopatitiana]

I believe that wildlife is more in tune with ours and others true intentions. I say this because I work with around 10-30 different dogs every week or so and when I am in bad moods some dogs do not change thier demeanor and remain friendly while others no matter what my mood are terrified of me. I have realized talking has almost no purpose with dogs. It only elevates thier anxiety when in large groups. Domestic dogs are more in tune with our body language and read that rather than our words. I believe many of our indoor domestic animals have lost thier connection to nature as many of us have too. and are not as "in tune" as wildlife

[Berry Chastain]

I can't help but agree with you about animals loving one another. I have two dogs and two cats who think they are all human and when the word love is mentioned in the house they all come running for some.
Here is a video of animal love which gave me such a delightful lift this morning, it made my day. Hope you all enjoy as much as I did. What A Wonderful World.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv_5M9LfSbc

[aqcheryl]

I can't help but agree with you about animals loving one another. I have two dogs and two cats who think they are all human and when the word love is mentioned in the house they all come running for some.
Here is a video of animal love which gave me such a delightful lift this morning, it made my day. Hope you all enjoy as much as I did. What A Wonderful World.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv_5M9LfSbc

Thanks for that video - I cant help but see that bunny thinking 'sheesh get a room' ROFL But its a beautiful thing, I wonder what the story is.

[Purple Dragon]

Awesome video, it goes to show how the love instinct is throughout our planet even though a lot of third density entities fail to remember it. It's great to see that our second density life is still progressing towards the light :)

[Alexander]

Courtesy of Mercola.com, I found out about this vid -


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxa6P73Awcg

or you can find it with searching "Face-Off With a Deadly Predator" on youtube.com



It shows what David has spoken about, how the nature of some predatory animals are changing.

[noppy]

animals sure changes during these times of change

i always thought my dog could not understand me till my father said something to him and he perfectly understood it.... i felt rick rolled

my cats also changed, they react on what i think. i said something in my mind that they look like a gremlin and suddenly they looked at me with a strange look in there eyes.

and bumble bees or honey bees don't sting you so fast anymore, i had sunflowers in my garden and they just ignore you, that never happen. i've heard that if the bees disapear , it's over within 3 years with our planet and no more honey !!!.
if it helps i'm gona do my best to plant flowers every were

[piermarie]

Hi, I believe that our pets are very connected to us just like our family. As we choose the family to be born into so we choose the pets and they choose us in spirit. It is all connected and we get much blessings from them.

Pets can have different levels of souls that incarnate into the pet body depending on the person whom they will be the pet. Mostly pets who have a loving caring person are usually higher level beings (say a soul who can just as well be a human or higher) but choose to come into this world as your pet for a reason and they know you very well and wish to help you very much.

In this case the pet will evolve with you into 4th level if they wish because of the loving connection with you. and they may have choosen to rise to 4th level in a pet body instead of a human body for reasons.

Also pets have a different brain structure. They are always in contact with the Divine spirit and can see into the realm of no-time meaning see the past and future. They can see connections of people around you and so its a good idea to listen to your pet if they like or dislike someone in your life, They would know if this was a good relationship for you or not depending on what you are wanting to learn in this life.

This goes for all animals, they are open to the Divine Light always but they dont let people know it. Those that can communicate with animals will know.

A comment about the animals some people Eat,

these loving animals are also Divine spirits inside them, they do not want to be killed for food. The fear and hurt and pain goes into their body at dealth, try to imagine what they are feeling, this energy goes into your body and brain when you eat them and keeps your vibration at a low frequency near the vibrations of fear.

It is better for all humans to eat a vegetarian diet as we go into the 4th level, the level of the heart, compassion and love for all.
also your pets can be vege too, mine are and are super healthy and loving.

[transiten]

Hello piermarie

I have a wonderful shorthaired collie and we are extremely close. I feel he is my guide somehow and it would be wondeful if he ascended with me...if i do. I must object though that the pets always know who is good for you. I had an extremely destructive codependency relationship with a borderline man but he always treated the dog well and gave him good things to eat although he was emotionally disturbed (like myself of course) and treated me extremely bad half of the time.

So, my pet did not tell me that this was a person that was not good for me.

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[piermarie]

Yes i understand what you are saying, I mean "what is good for us" actually maybe a test or struggle is some way according to our karma. Like if you need to grow in protecting yourself and becoming strong to overcome someone who is mistreating you. Or you need to work out the karma with the person somehow, our dogs and pets will not interfer with our fixed karma that is in place for us to grow and work out.

But our pets know if something that we do or not need to do because they can see the Akashic records.

Also our pets have different purposes and gifts on how they plan to help us in our life.
For instance they may help us bring out the unconditional love we all can share, or they may help us concentrate, or help us in our meditation and our vibration, or help us be in tune to nature or help us feel conforted and loved, or bring us laughter and joy or learn to care for another being, any other thing, There are so many ways they can bless us.

I am sure we can all think of how our pets are helping us. You can ask them also. I hear that anyone can learn to communicate with their pets. Some animals communicate with pictures, by sending pictures and feeling to them in telepathy they also may respond in pictures and feelings too. There are many books and web sites that teach how to learn to communicate with animals.
This is what I belive. thanks.

[Cynthia II]

I haven't submitted anything yet and hope I'm doing it right.
My concerns and question marks about 2012 are as daunting as anyone's. But one subject hasn't yet been addressed. When we ascend to 4D (those of us who do), will our beloved pets accompany us? Who fosters love and compassion more ardently than they - and who deserves to live among the higher positive energies more than they?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
JanetM

Hi Janet --
you said, "who fosters love and compassion more ardently than they-" Exactly! They are our angels, our helpers with ascension, i.e. most of them know exactly what is going on and have started the ascension process, just as we have. They already live among the higher positive energies, our egos just seem to have a real hard time grasping that fact. If you truly have a soul connection with your pet(s), which it sounds like you do, they will probably stay with you just as they are now. Make no mistake, they don't need us, we need them. Most animals which have not yet become extinct (can handle the earth changes) are ascending along with every other being on the earth. That includes our wild animal friends, too. I hope the elephants make it!! I'm thinking they will.