George Green video transcript request

[Mozart]

hey transcript team,

here's an excellent (so i'm told) video by george green, an economist who apparently has had some prescient comments made about the state of the us economy, to wit:


[as this is off-topic, please pm seth if you want to transcribe the url for him]


you can find the url for george green in this from project camelot: http://www.projectcamelot.org/2008.html


i'd love to have a transcript of this. if any of you do a transcript of it, please send it to me and i'll be glad to edit it, then post it in this forum for the benefit of all. it's a 44-minute video.


~mozart

[SuperManny]

mozart, i sent you a pm about some george green stuff.
if anyone else is interested in it, just send me a pm. i love to share! :)

[frleal70]

i just watched george's video on youtube. he seems to paint a different picture of things to come compared to david. i did a search here, and this is the only thread discussing this video.

supermanny, i'm interested in the material you have on george green. thanks

[nem338nem]

after watching the interview i posted a thread that was not allowed apparently. i mentioned the likeness of the ra (loo) material with that of the reading that george green gave that out of the book that was printed on the screen. kerry had asked about the ra material and david wilcock, which he validated as bona fide as well as anastasia from russia. i thought he was spot on and it was an excellent interview. you should try reading the new paradigm on his web site.

[SuperManny]

you should try reading the new paradigm on his web site.
as they always say, "the book's so much better than the movie!"

i highly recommend the books, which you can get with a free registration on his site.

frankly i couldn't even watch the video, because of the negative overtones. i watched part of the first one and found it to be kinda depressing, so i started watching the 2nd one. i didn't get very far with it either; this is some real depressing, negative stuff!:eek:

when it comes to conspiracy theories, etc., i like to be aware of the issues, because with awareness you can start the healing process. however, i do not need to be constantly bombarded with the idea that all the people in the northern hemisphere will be wiped out (according to george green) because i choose to not create that in my world.

that timeline is not set in stone; there are more peaceful ones that are just as likely, and i am choosing one of those, along with david wilcock and probably most of the members here.

choose wisely, what you focus on!

[Mozart]

choose wisely, what you focus on!


amen to that!


thanks for your report, supermanny; it'll still get transcribed, but i hope that people don't buy into it with any major focus.


btw, we have more than enough transcribers, now that we got a huge influx of transcribers from the project camelot site, so there is no need for anyone who is not already a transcriber on either site to volunteer for transcribing the george green stuff.

[mellisamouse]

i also watched this video a few days ago and found it very disturbing....truth mixed with things to steer one in a negtive direction of focus?

i found the saving up money etc, (i am saving seeds, and planting things for the future etc), but don't see where money is gonna take us.....money is something i am trying to depend on less and less and i really want nothing to do with that whole system.

as i have said in other threads, where i live now, we are all already growing things and giving it all away to each other so we all have an overabundance of food, which is all i feel i really need besides shelter, which is also good here etc....also, leaving the northern hemisphere seems like something "they" have allways "wanted" us to do for some reason.

i had dreams for years, and despite many people saying stay away from the west coast, i purposly moved back to the west coast, as i feel this is the best place for me to stay put....i have such different dreams compared to this mans interpretation, that i wanna trust my intuition over his in this case.

just my personal opinion though. ;)

[P-Bass]

amen to that!

he got my attention by using a phrase like "we are all one". kerry asked a number of times if there was some positive message or some hope. i was looking for that too.

my initial reaction was one of fear/protection. how do i take care of myself and my family? protection is a good thing, but i wanted to understand how that information can be used in stos. i'm still trying to balance that energy.

love and light
steve

[Muse]

george says in his book that these "negative" things are not necessarily going to happen, if humanity manages to return to love over fear, etc. this is the way i choose to energetically go. i think he is just getting prepared in case we don't "fire the grid" so to speak.

i personally like ben fulford's take on what is going to happen, if the ruling few decide not to get on board the love train.

[dazcox]

i listened to that interview yesterday several times, the poor guy seems to be exactly what dw was talking about in his last project camelot interview.

as kerry said (from what david w. said), why build camps for the public when they're already in a self-imposed prison of mind-numbing work and recreation?

and the public will literally kill for food after a week? that seems a little extreme, if that is truly the case then why do the aliens bother giving him info? no one will survive if we're all going to turn into mad max after a week of no power!

one good thing though, the info on the new us coins, so i bought a 25 dollar roll of the new golden-esque one dollar coins wheee! shiny coins make me happy!

[FooSnik]

america is no longer land of the free.

it is the land of the greed.

[Art]

boo! :(

i only watched about 20 minutes of the video and decided to turn it off. the sad thing is, deep in my heart, i know what he is saying is true...

i try very hard to be optimistic about the future, working together towards unity and solving the current challenges we face. this is what i spend most of my energy on. with that said, i also realize that for this "new world" to be born, the "old world" must "die". and all the happiness and good feelings that come from that majority focus can be quickly overshadowed by even 20 minutes of "tough truth". but thats ok, because i've learned from you, the members of this forum, that i can channel these "tough feelings" into something useful for my personal growth.

the harsh reality is that we are in for some rough times ahead as the old structures are tore down. spending too much time thinking about this will only lead to depression. sure, i'd like to see the greed dissipate, but when that happens, there is sure to be some suffering; and not only will it be felt in the us, but all over the world. along those lines then, i think of those people in the world who are trying their best just to get by each and every day. how much more can they take? :eek:

i guess the saving grace is that while we are aware of this possible near future, we are also looking beyond, into the creation and dawning of the new age. again, spending too much time focusing on the hardships to come will only make that reality stronger, and we'll miss out on the wonderful things that are happening now. the key is that when these things do start happening, we will be prepared in advance and be able to "lighten" the impact on not only ourselves, but those around us. and if we're able to do this in our communities, then our communities can band together, and on, and on...

i think back to what's been said many times on this forum... let it be. there's no need in trying to stop this, because that would only extend the injustice and suffering; delay the birthing of the new age, unity consciousness, oneness...

so i guess i'll be spending the rest of the day "saying goodbye" to those things i won't be needing in this new world we're trying to usher in. you'd think i would have already done that, not so. for surely, if i remain tethered to some of my current reality, i'll only be making things more difficult on myself when the time comes... :o

thank you for reading. sent with positive intentions, believe it or not. glad to be here learning and growing with all of you - we'll need to draw from the collective energy of the "awakened" when times are rough, so that we can keep our heads above water and ours eyes on the future.

humbly yours,

art

p.s. - i haven't read his e-books. i'm sure there's some great information that will reinforce my current understandings. however, i'm not sure thats what i need at this point - more reinforcement of things i already know... maybe its time to stop preparing and start doing? :rolleyes:

[mellisamouse]

well, it dosen't hve to get worse for anyone. especially when you jump ahead and live now without the old systems....

the old systems aren't exaclty "beneficial" to most of us anyways...you can live now, as if already past that point, and you will have no shock, and help others live now as if past that point, and life will seem to go on, (at a much more sustainable quality) without skipping a beat.

what we do today in each choice can eliminate the impact on us personally in the the future, and on those around us observing this "early" change as well.....

if you think about yourself being ok, and spend each day past that point already, how can things get anything but better from this moment forward?

there is no need for doom or gloom. i know this with ever fiber of my being.

it can be ok, starting now, you can create your future from moment to moment until it orchastrates itself into a song you know how to sing by heart. it make take some longer to learn the lyrics, timing, or tune, but if you sing it often enough you will learn it by heart. ;)

[Rhonda]

the light in me is more awake then ever. i am glad this is seeing the light, but sadden by the play in action.

the truth will be known by all. i still feel in my heart that light will be the power and unity of all that is, will shine more brighter than ever.

my will will keep my faith alive. my strength will be strengthen.

i am that i am will stay and will be

[Art]

well, it dosen't hve to get worse for anyone. especially when you jump ahead and live now without the old systems....

the old systems aren't exaclty "beneficial" to most of us anyways...you can live now, as if already past that point, and you will have no shock, and help others live now as if past that point, and life will seem to go on, (at a much more sustainable quality) without skipping a beat.

what we do today in each choice can eliminate the impact on us personally in the the future, and on those around us observing this "early" change as well.....

if you think about yourself being ok, and spend each day past that point already, how can things get anything but better from this moment forward?

there is no need for doom or gloom. i know this with ever fiber of my being.

it can be ok, starting now, you can create your future from moment to moment until it orchastrates itself into a song you know how to sing by heart. it make take some longer to learn the lyrics, timing, or tune, but if you sing it often enough you will learn it by heart. ;)


mellisa,

very good advice. why wait for change to come to you later when you can willfully change now? :d as i didn't see the whole video, i'm not sure how much gloom and doom was presented... usually i won't even watch something like that, but since it had a monetary theme, i thought it would complement another video i recently watched about money is debt, posted by bbb...

thank you for posting your reply - it was a nice counter to my post. there certainly isn't anything to fear, which we all need to be reminded of now and again. ;)

art

[Jasper]

if you want to solve the crime, then follow the money. towards the end of the interview, george recounts how he used to finance the ekkers people in what turned out to be a fraudlent exercise. they in turn are connected with a v.k.durham, who in turn has connections to leo wanta !!!

i have to say that the whole affair incorportaing the above people is the most bizarre i've ever come across, and extremely complicated. to now find george green involved makes it even more incredulous.

i'm going to ask some questions of people, and do some more digging, but i doubt if i'll ever understand fully what has been going on.

[CK1]

choose wisely, what you focus on!



indeed! probably the most important thing for any of us to do amidst this wave of negative predictions.

[Born23EB]

hello folks. i also viewed the george green interview and have read through the pardigm published writings. everyone on this thread have hit on some good points. i can see how easy it is to fall into sadness over the flow of events and processing it through the head mind of egoic consciousness. the heartmind on the other hand is unerring in its alignment to the divine plan. the axis of the eternal present like a time/space plumbline into the temporal moment connects to the white fire core of being. the connection to this insures that we are always synchronisticly connecting to our true self through intuition. the greater our trust in this ground of reality, the more life appears to flow effortlessly, as we each cocreate our timeline spontaneously with the process. divine intelligence is coordinating all points of consciousness through the created universes.i have recognized that this connection transmutes any and all fear that arises in our conditioned egoic mind into expanded consciousness. as the saying goes," the only thing to fear is fear itself". things appear very dramatic at times but at the core of being there is great joy that allows us to walk our chosen path supported by infinite love.:d

[heck]

yeah i've watched all of his videos, and they are very negative. i do like the fact that he is very consistent in his stories, so i think he genuinely is telling the truth or what he believes to be true. i have gotten some good info from him in terms of financial advice.

however, i quickly get to the point where i'm like "whatever". there is only so much i'm willing to prepare for, and take precautions against. i'm not moving to ecuador to be with the rest of the negative elite, or build a house that can withstand 400 mph winds. i'm here in wisconsin for very good reasons. this my home, the place i love. and it is here that i will love others. i'm only going to die when i suppose to die, and not a moment before. so i walk without fear.

plus, i think he is still getting information from his old friends, who are on the negative path, or get their intel from negative ets. the chain of information is very questionable.

the only things that i take out of his videos, are the things i will do anyways. such as exiting the banking system and markets, growing more of my own food, and waking up others.

[Metamike]

i saw the interview on project camelot, went to his website and downloaded the three books he has provided. here are my conclusions for what they are worth. the books are never going to wake up third density consciousness the way they are presented - seems to me to be preaching to the choir.

i think there is a lot of possibilities for manipulation through fear here. ok winds may be heavy - i have had those dreams too and it is necessary to be underground to avoid flying objects - but will it be any idea to try and survive through all of this if the planet is going to rotate off its axis and the sun is going to flip out?

a lot of things feel wrong with his understanding of the future. there is no room for fourth density awareness and abilities coming through - only an never ending fight to fight off dominance and negative polarization.

i was left speed reading his work because there was really little essence in it from my point of view. at first i felt a connection because i thought he was trying to wake people up - it seems that he has more taken care of his own agenda in an elite sort of way.

ra makes a lot more sense to me!

[cricket]

i think this guy is just another disinfo agent planted to instill fear and take us down a timeline to our doom. i mean, look what the guy used to do for a living! i find it hard to believe he is all love and light after yrs of deceiveng and ripping off people! so, we are all supposed to enmasse, migrate to s. america if we want to survive? even if he succeeded in waking up a large part of the population, how many of them have gold coins (or could afford to) stockpiled in offshore banks so they are ensured to be able to provide for themselves? i also find it hard to believe of all the millions of people in the world, the pleadians (so he says) chose him, someone who definately has not been a very compassionate person in his dealing with people most of his life, to be the one to advise the world's population.
this is a good lesson in discernment folks. just because someone seems charming and trying to be helpful doesnt make it so. he's up to no good as far as im concerned.
metamike said it right, "it seems that he has more taken care of his own agenda in an elite sort of way".

[tamarie]

i watched the george green interview as soon as it appeared online - by myself. i was hesitant to show it to my 2 best mates - the three of us are like minded and seem to agree on most everything regarding 2012.

however, i found another presentation that george green did on google - the big picture. so, the three of us watched it. and we had a healthy discussion on george green's credibility - which led me to actually email project camelot - something i would never normally dream of doing - i realise they probably won't have time to read it, but i felt inclined to write it. i'll attach it here, because frankly, i wonder if any of you on the forum can answer some of my/our questions...

-----original message-----
sent: friday, 25 april 2008 2:46 am
subject: total confusion on where burish stands - does he even know?
importance: high

g’day kerry and bill,

you guys are totally awesome. i genuinely hope that you both stay happy, healthy and safe because we need you! more of you!

today i checked out burish’s forum and found a statement that he made that shows that he is in support of hillary clinton… doesn’t this completely go against what he is advising us is the best course of events that we should hope to occur? prior to this evening i was a big burish supporter (yet, an even bigger david wilcock supporter), but now, i’m just not so sure. please, correct me if i am taking anything he says the wrong way…

i’ll cut and paste his forum comment here in case it disappears:

unfortunately i am going to have to decline the offer for endorsement, and as i also suspect one of the 3 human candidates presently running for president of the united states of america, will probably win. my personal endorsement remains with senator clinton.

dan

last edit: apr 20, 2008, 6:39am by dan

http://www.neweaglesforum.proboards107.com/index.cgi?board=mongrel&action=display&thread=86&page=6


on another note, regarding george green, my friends and i just don’t know what to think about him. if we may be so blunt (without causing any offence), we believe that you may have lessened the integrity of project camelot by adding him to your list of interviewees. the reason we think this, is because after viewing his google video – the big picture, we found it extremely hard not to take him seriously at precisely the point in his presentation where he shows the billy meier photos of:

1. ‘the wedding cake craft’ (c’mon, it just looks too fake…)
2. the pleiadian wearing that extremely fake tin foil looking ‘space suit’ (seen no-where else, including in artist sketches of other pleidian’s)
3. the fake look of the ‘laser gun’ and the use of such old technology (although not all of us agree on this point)
4. the video footage of the craft swaying back and forth as if suspended on a string like a pendulum…
5. the photos of the grey autopsy (weren’t these debunked ages ago as fake?)

there are other smaller points, but once you start picking, you can’t stop…

one might believe everything george says if it wasn’t for the abovementioned points that have been argued endlessly everywhere all over the internet for a very long time now.

if you google george green and project camelot, you’ll find that there are other people out there on other forums that just don’t know why you would interview him either. you seem to be losing rank in their eyes.

in the eyes of my friends and i, i don’t think you could lose any sort of respect, regardless of what you do, because you have ‘woken us up’ (for lack of better wording) to a whole new world of important information and messages. you must get sick of hearing it, but we are truly grateful for your work. we check the ‘what’s new’ page twice a day and tingle with delight when you add new content! when the latest wilcock video was discovered, we had the kids in bed, the laptop plugged into the big screen tv, munchies, and our own spot on the couch sorted out within 3 minutes!

in closing, i would like to thank you so much for taking the time to read this email, and i would be very interested in your comments re dan’s statement on hillary clinton, if you have the time to reply.

much love and light to you and yours xxxx

tamara
sydney, nsw, australia

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now, my friends and i are not saying we don't beleive in the pleiadian's, but i am confused and unsure about some aspects of the billy meier encounters (named above) and in turn, this leads us to wonder about george green too.

to whomever has the transcript of the project camelot george green interview, i'd love a copy as well. many thanks!

[Rhonda]

one of the feelings i got after watching these video's is that it talked more about separation, rather than unity or one. it has been now several days since, but the same thoughts are there.

with the energy being of one and of unity, why would i feel this...

my own energy raised and was on alert 4say.... as i digested the story and what was being passed....

[lilac]

ya, i really got the creeps from the interview with george. the talk about pedophiles, freebasing and the way he fondled those coins in his hand..... all made my skin crawl. this was nothing new to me or even shocking at all. it just made me wonder about his motives. the material keeps creeping back into my mind, too, like sticky, gooey. but project camelot doesn't have to promise it's all true. they put it out there for our discernment. thanks be for that.

[P-Bass]

this interview didn't resonate well with me. it made me want to buy gold and silver coins and run out to costco to buy emergency food and supplies. the only love in that moment for me was love of self. if a time ever comes that i need to protect myself, i'm sure it will come from my higher self in some way supported by synchronistic signs.

love and light...great to have you all back!
steve

[Spiral of Light]

i have to agree with all of the above...

so many red flags went up while i watched the george green video that they are too numerous to mention here. but, most of all, i got an uncomfortable feeling that he is too into himself and his accomplishments/achievements.

he didn't have anything positive to say when david wilcock's name was mentioned, either. instead, he changed the subject. not a good sign, in my opinion.... not that we all have to agree on everything, but to keep my attention the information should be somewhat on the same page with the general topics discussed here at divine cosmos.

perhaps bill and kerry are simply putting everything out there for folks like us to sort through in order to come up with intelligent decisions on what to believe. i am behind them 100% in their efforts to inform. but george green came off as a phony.

keep up the good work practicing discernment, guys! looks like a lot of us are on the same page with this topic.

love and light,
nancy

[tamarie]

hi all,

as pasted a little up on the page, i emailed project camelot not long ago regarding george green (and dan burish) and this morning i received a response from bill ryan (and kerry cassidy) that i thought i would post here (at bill's permission) for those who might be curious to see what project camelot might have to say.

i didn't expect a response so quickly, so i am grateful that bill and kerry felt my email was as important to them to respond to as it was to me to write it.

here it is:

-----original message-----
from: bill ryan and kerry cassidy
sent: tuesday, 29 april 2008 12:51 am
subject: re: total confusion on where burisch stands - does he even know?
importance: high

hi, tamara -

thanks for your message, and it’s a pleasure to hear from you. you raise a lot of points! in response, as best i (bill) can...

we love dan dearly, and respect him fully, but do disagree with him about his stance on hillary clinton. we talked with him about this personally over a long and interesting dinner in las vegas on 1 april.

running the risk of misrepresenting him, my best understanding of his position is that he’s a traditional patriot who believes that a strong military us with a strong foreign policy is the way to go. he believes, i think, that hillary is likely to be ‘strong’ in that sense. our view, in contrast, is that she’s a pawn of the illuminati and is more likely than obama to be compliant in plunging the world into an even more precarious position than it is already.

we did not let our (genuinely amiable and pleasant) exchange of opinions to interfere with our dinner... or any other aspect of our friendship. dan is a good man, doing the best he can under enormous pressures, and is as entitled as any of us to hold his personal views.

there’s also another reason why he admires hillary, which is confidential (concerning her and her attitude to certain events) and which dan has asked us not to share. we are also fully aware of this. please forgive any understandable frustration you may feel by our not being able to share this bit of personal backstory.

some of george green’s views and positions are controversial (there’s a euphemism for you!), but we felt what he presents is so important that it (like dan’s technical testimony on stargate technology and visiting future humans) is in our view too important to ignore or dismiss with a convenient wave of the hand.

for me personally, the one single most important part of the video was about a minute or so in from the very start when we presented the outtake in the car (actually, on our way to a meal after the interview) in which george mentions his conversation with the governor of colorado who “had his ticket” to australia (presumably, pine gap).

that stunned us, and precipitated a long continuing conversation in the restaurant about illuminati plans for population reduction (c.f. alex jones’ endgame) that unfortunately was just too noisy to record.

george himself is no longer stunned (in the same way!) with his own information, because he’s been living with it for a long time. he’s been presenting much the same message for several years now. so he has learned to smile... he’s an incredibly amiable and pleasant person, on and off camera... the very nicest, most courteous, generous, laid back man.

at the moment, he has a very strong sense of purpose which is heightening every week. he’s traveling around the country talking to all the people who will listen. kerry met with him again in la a couple of days ago where he was addressing a private group.

he’s not making this stuff up. these events may not transpire... but they sure will if we all sit back on our heels and continue to watch tv. he’s doing something about it in the only way he knows, and so he communicates a warning.

if he is to believed, he’s only the messenger anyway - the pleiadians (or whoever his sources may be!) are using him to convey vital information which feels pretty important and resonates with us. we are part of the ‘ground crew’ that george describes, and so may you be and anyone else you feel intuitively you should forward this message to (which is fine to do).

the least we can all do is listen carefully. on our part, we’re taking it seriously... read our recent http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html page (‘timeline 1, variant 83’), in which nuclear exchanges are also mentioned (as ‘seen’ in the 2007 time portal intelligence probe), and marry this information together. that’s why we stand by our interview.

with our very best wishes,

bill and kerry

------- end email --------

well, that's interesting (about dan burish) and almost worthy of starting a new thread! but i won't, unless other people also have something to say about it.

cheers,

tamarie

[mellisamouse]

well, if we are splitting into 3 different timelines,(negative4th, positive 4th, and repeat 3rds) mabey that is the outcome for one of them. it is certainly not the outcome for mine though. i have been having dreams and visions since birth about the outcome, and it is good in general, well, it is wonderful in the end actually, with 2012 being the end of this chaos, and the beginging of personal freedom creation/manifestation, etc. where my dreams and visions strongly lead, there is no need for money, just a love for gardening and sharing beautiful landscapes, food, flowers, and music with others etc....the biggest conflicts are illusions,and the real ones are personal, for the purpose of personal growth....conflicts are ending as creation is begining...;)

but againnnnn, this is just my personal opinion! :)

[DAB]

thank you all for sharing opinions and feelings on green's interview!

it is important that these things are discussed and chewed over, imho!

i would like to add some positive light ...the most important thing george said in this current project camelot interview for me is this one simple statement:

"everything we do, everything...should be spiritual!"

that may not be exactly how he said it...but it resonated with me powerfully.

if we re-learn how to lace each and every thing we do with spirituality... the whole world in front of us will resonate with unconditional love. and i feel that is where we are headed more intently each and every day, at least i feel this in my life in front of me.

[nem338nem]

apparently you all have not truly read the law of one. ra acknowledges dark energies in the 4-d neg and up to 5-d neg. how could any logical mind not allow a conversation about their agenda? to do so woulld be to say that the opposite does not exist. you are all buying into fear. by not acknowledging an opposite. keep in mind most importantly that is these precise opposites to allow the (dna/ cosciousness) growth. as was written in the ra series. perhaps there are a lot of "rookies" out there that want live in la la land, in that if you visualize only beauty that is what you get! fine, but apparently you did not listen to david that well, he said that their are also faults going into 4-d positive, because if you are not aware of eventual control by other beings " all so loving and open hearted" that you also potentielly invite contfol' that is why he mentioned the "badges of honor" in 5-d.

you guys are missing the point about fear. it is real, but only if you are to decipher between the 2. fear/love/knowing the difference. then overcoming that initiation. george green is good. when and if you read his book "the new paradigm", you will find little difference between that and tha loo. remenber, that their are many perspectives to the infinite creator. we are all fragments ( or fractals ) of the same component; the one infinite creator. when these fragments break up due to the law of free will some will go inward and others outward (sts/sto) that is ultimatly all that you are seeng occur.
the beautiful side according to ra and even g. green is that this is the moment impregnant with possibilities for exponential growth especially at the end of the grand cycle. remember the opposite polarities must collide. that is why the infinite creator relfected/split himself, to observe himself. it is a dance to create infinitly.

do not get caught up in your fear. the man spoke pure truth. it is your fault that you wanted to hear what you wanted to hear, now acknowledge both opposites. that is indeed your awakening.

if you you did not you would live in la la land like ra and the boys and girls did on venus

all he saying is be aware, that is growth!

nelson - i am that i am

[Esoterica]

my feelings went nuts when i saw this guy. i don't trust him at all. i'm learning to trust my intuition more and more and it is telling me that something isn't right about him. on the more logical end though, green reveals nothing new as the economic collapse, mass exterminations have been widely revealed. perhaps the human clones is something new but everything else is just repeating what we already know.

[tamarie]

hi nelson,

i'm not sure what/who you meant by 'rookie' - whether you refer to the newer members of this forum (me being one of them), or those who seem to be, as the phrase goes, 'wearing rose coloured glasses', although in reality are simply beaming with positivity. i don't think it was necessary to divide between and some and others. because...

from what i can tell of the people who use this forum, we are all intelligent enough to understand the basics of what is needed to help co-create a positive existence. i think we all here 'get' what it means to be positive and live positively, radiating love to all others (otherselves), however just because we wish to believe, or state our belief, in one thing being the best outcome, it doesn't mean that we are ignoring all other outcomes, or disregarding all other messengers or messages just because they don't say what we want to hear, or say it in a negative way.

i, personally, don't feel i need to read this or read that, or even watch this or that, because i feel i know right from wrong (as we all do). so, while i may not have read george's books, or the entire loo series, or all of david's work, i do 'get it'. if i ever choose to listen to or debate over the advice of others (how ever strongly they put it across), it's because i want to understand it, or learn from it. not because i fear it, or don't fear it. fear is normal, natural, and something to work with, not work toward.

i don't know where i'm getting with this, really. i guess i just wanted to point out that i think we all are capable of using discernment in our own way. and while the 'rookies' (where ever they may be) might be focusing on the negative (or ignoring the negative) of any situation, they too, will learn to balance or overcome the things they need to, in their own time.

i'm not necessarily arguing with the point you made, or judging you for making it, but i do think you could have said the same thing in a little less of a threatening way.

love to you,

tamarie

[Robert Riedel]

so, mozart- where is that 44 min. video to be found, that you originally started this thread about, back in feb? i know it was well before he was interviewed on project camelot, but since then, this thread has turned into a posse, out to hang 'em high, or nail 'em up. i heard george green on coast to coast, and george noory kept refering to him as a prophet- and the audience response was very supportive, also.

hey posse, just what is it about his truth that is so hard to swallow? does it not fit your paradigm, or what? thats just fine, because he's got a book called handbook for the new paradigm, that is like an instruction manual, for us to actually create a new paradigm- and he's giving it out for free-even paying the postage- how many are doing that out there?

maybe it is too late- considering the odds, our chances are probably very slim- but killing a messenger is not the way to go. and if this "ship" really goes down, i prefer to go down with a bucket in my hand, not a noose.

we really are spiritual beings having a physical experience, but those are just words. you need to know that, with every fiber of your being, deep in your heart, and start living like the infinitely powerful entities that we all are.

the possibilities boggle the mind...

bob

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

i'm about half way into reading his first book and it does resonate in some degree with the loo, i was a bit surprised, his book does seem different than the interview in a way.................sylvain...................

[mellisamouse]

ummmmmmmm, what's wrong with lala land? i have lived there 80% of the time i've been here, and "lala" is even my knickname in real life....

why does "lala land" strike suck a passionate chord???? what is it about lala land that provoked anger? as anger, is a stem from fear......lala land allways works for me, if you keep your eyes on the yellow brick road, you will find the emerald palace, you will discover the wizard is a fake, and you will eventually get back home! ;) :) :p

[meganarline]

i listened to part of the video and it just didn't resonate with me so i stopped, that's it that's all period. i'm not crucifying the fellow he is as is everyone else entitled to their opinion.

as well if i do listen to something and it makes me fearful, then i don't think there is any good reason to listen to it unless i feel like being scared, which i don't. i have read and listened to sooooooooo much stuff that made me feel just that and it just doesn't interest me anymore so i stay away. it bores me. i don't think i am buying into fear just because i choose not to read or listen to something that makes me afraid.

i only have so much free time so i generally choose to watch/read more lala land inspired stuff. it makes me feel good and smile :) and i feel that while i am reading it i am sending good vibes out to the world and there's nothing wrong with that.

just my own personal choice.



megan

[larissa]

yes, yes, yes to what everybody said, except nelson, sorry mate, rookies are a bit sensitive and who are the rookies anyway? to this forum? well, then i qualify. i sensed some anger there, which is fine and understandable. i personally see nothing wrong with la la land, it's our choice , too bad i can't live there more often.

as usual, i liked bob's take on the discussion, it does seem a bit of a lynch mob towards poor old george who is only doing his best after all. can any of us really judge? and thanks for the link to project camelot, that was really helpful, and very intriguing about hillary, what was that secret positive characteristic she has?

what if, just what if, everybody's wrong about her and she is pretending to go along with the elite so she can get into power, then when she has it, she will turn the tables? you never know, a smart person would do that, wouldn't they? after all, thatcher was removed by the elite when she started to rebel against them. you just never know......

and anyway, what difference does it make? it's understood the candidates are chosen and it's six of one, half a dozen of the other. and also, i never did understand people sitting around discussing politics because it doesn't change anything, it's just a bunch of hot air going nowhere.

of course, here i am doing just that. oh well. also, i keep reminding myself that whatever anyone says about someone is a reflection of what they themselves are, you only talk about what's inside of you, the other person is just a means of projection.

i suppose i could go on, but that's enough. much love to all (for now) larissa

[mellisamouse]

and thanks for the link to project camelot, that was really helpful, and very intriguing about hillary, what was that secret positive characteristic she has?

what if, just what if, everybody's wrong about her and she is pretending to go along with the elite so she can get into power, then when she has it, she will turn the tables? you never know, a smart person would do that, wouldn't they? after all, thatcher was removed by the elite when she started to rebel against them. you just never know......



this is a very good point...(especially after all the public humiliation and crap she went through).....in fact, i think no matter who it is, we are at the table turning time, the last election before 2012, so no matter who gets elected, no matter what the illusion is on the outside, we are still going to chose our polarities, stand our ground, and arrive at our destinies.....everything will work out just as it should, so no need for dissapointments or debates really in my head.

everyone should feel completley free to express their personal opinions...

if something dosen't resonate, it dosen't resonate....if something else inspires, it inspires....it is all just a personal experience.

all anyone can really do in the long run is let your light shine, love yourself, and for those who want to, love others as well.....

even without the "2012" date we are all hoping for, there is much change going on for what i percieve is the better....even if the opposites had to co-exsist for another 10 000 000 years, the game is changing, opportunity is now here for every individual to follow the path of their choice instead of being forced against their will to follow the "invisible rules" of a hidden minority who are out for themselves.

people in every walk of life are waking up and tired of the fight....growing up....no longer being the 4 year olds in grown up clothes coveting a toy they had no interest in until another child picked it up...people are realizing they can go get their own exact toy instead of fighting with the other 4 year old....

people are finally ready to create their own realities, instead of trying to take over someone elses...how boring is that anyways?

i would rather paint my own picture, than try to take credit for a painting done by another artist, wouldn't you? ;)

[meganarline]

sometimes melisamouse you have such a wonderful way of hitting the nail on the head!:)


everyone should feel completley free to express their personal opinions...

if something dosen't resonate, it dosen't resonate....if something else inspires, it inspires....it is all just a personal experience.

all anyone can really do in the long run is let your light shine, love yourself, and for those who want to, love others as well.....

you make me smile, thanks:d

megan

[SuperManny]

so, mozart- where is that 44 min. video to be found, that you originally started this thread about, back in feb?
i think this (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6456567534341306261)is the one mozart was referring to. it was posted nov 5, 2007, and it's 44 minutes long.


hey posse, just what is it about his truth that is so hard to swallow? does it not fit your paradigm, or what? thats just fine, because he's got a book called handbook for the new paradigm, that is like an instruction manual, for us to actually create a new paradigm- and he's giving it out for free-even paying the postage- how many are doing that out there?
bobi have nothing against the man, personally, i imagine he's doing the best that he can, given his situation. perhaps he's just alerting us to a probability, so that we can choose to avoid it, kind of like the old saying that a prophet whose dire predictions don't come true, will know that he has accomplished his mission. all i said about it was that i was choosing a different, more peaceful timeline where we don't all get nuked, and i encouraged others to do the same.
btw, i do like his books! :)

[mellisamouse]

awe thank you too megan! you passed your smile over and shared it with me. :)

[nem338nem]

larissa and others - you are great and i respect your dispositition with all due respect. and i love you as well. first you may pervieve a degree of truth, then it will not resonate within you (please see dr. brian oleary- ex-astronaut) then we go through defiance (thus the la- la land) then we may arrive at acceptance. even i am a "rookie" in the universe. but lest i be told/understood a different layer, i would then not be told my ignorance in the grander scheme of things. therefore, i shall always be "slapped in my own face to a new reality of awareness". that is all i was setting forth in my posting. it was never a direct attak on anyone here. i am at fault as we are all. rookie means that we all open another curtain (as bob so well put it) and to then find another layer. we only decipher what we may at our own resonance. i do not deprive or infringe upon another's free will in that regard. yet strongly suggest opening up to all possibities as you grow. in my personal humble opinion, we must know all sides of understanding to be able to deciphper any degree of truth. thus, we must expose ourself to neg and pos to get it. that is what i meant by rookie. it is not a matter of how long you have been on this forum.

as for la la land. it means just what i previously said- see both sides. like my last quote about ra and the boys and girls to grow is to see both sides.
opposites allow growth, it would be well to see both archetypes, then you grow much faster. even i am humble and i must learn to take on the feminine archetype.

please forgive me if i may have offended anyone

love nelson

[Robert Riedel]

probably both- and neither...

nelson, go to your room! and grab your dicshunairy... :rolleyes:

super manny, thanks for that link- been thinkin' about lookin' for it for a few days now- and yeah- the books are great-and would be worth a fair price, if he charged one.

larissa, rock-on! but be cool about the poly(many) tics (bloodsuckers), though- chris h. don't seem to care to have it around here, and after all, it's only another one of the many soap-operas for the masses. too bad- i used to be big on santa clause, too.

[mods say, excuse bob! but there are 5 mods now! why are you pickin' on one? :)]

(bob says-who said dat? and it was intended to be a compliment!)

and may la la land, and all it's inhabitants live on happily forever! i've been there a few times, myself. (at least that's what one of my ex-wives used to say), but that's the part where ya go blonde, put your hands over your ears, and....well you know the drill.

hey, look- i'm firmly convinced that it's absolutely right-on to stay in a positive mind state- to always do for, rather than to others, to always keep a smile on your face, and in your heart, and practice random acts of kindness, often. and i'm also sure that the best way to defeat the "loyal opposition" is to just shine the light of knowledge on 'em. not to focus on, or buy into their losing game, but to just be aware of the big picture, because the dark meanies like to remain in the dark, and when more and more can look at the negs and their pitiful plans, and say- "i pity the fools," it takes away some of their power over us, so, there's a place and a time for everything... find your own drummer, and dance to your own beat, as you wish- after all, it's your world, just as mine is mine.

and, there is that crowd that has actually become quite fond of our little "prison planet," and would like to orchestrate some sort of "prison break" in our immediate future. on that, we have the choice to lead, follow, get out of the way, sit in the grandstands, or shuffle off to la la land. whatever. revolutions are "old school," but evolutions, now, they can be fun.... at any rate, you only have like until eternity to make these choices, so just enjoy the ride!

or, perhaps we're all just bozos on this bus...;)

bob

[meganarline]

hi guys and gals,

just a question from a girl living in lala land. i don't want to start an argument but i just do not understand and i am trying to. :)

for those that are on the george green team, what i do not understand is why buy into a scenario from what i understand that says we are too late at this point in time to have a positive effect on the planet because it's too little too late. if i have this wrong, please correct me because i didn't listen to the whole thing. but this is driving me crazy:d

to me that would just be giving up. i have always been a worrier in this life. i rarely worry about myself but i do worry about my loved ones. and one thing i have noticed is that nothing even close to what i was worrying about ever happened. nothing, never. everything has always turned out fine.( a few bumps but nothing even remotely close to what i had imagined)

is there some proof that this is all true in what you see happening around you personally because otherwise it is really all just words. and there are other words out there that suggest a completely different outcome.

i am not saying that what he says may not be true, but i would rather be positive and contemplate a different outcome. until it is happening in my world i will not buy into it.

i do not think i am acting out of fear, i believe i will cross whatever bridge i meet when i come to it. i'm not afraid to die, i'm pretty sure i'd be a very happy dead person. :) i prefer to try to stay grounded in the present and my present is pretty good.

i know some people on this forum do not like the word faith, but i have a lot of it. not sure why, i just do.

i completely feel that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and beliefs and i do not mean any disrespect. all i am trying to do is try and understand.

i do love you all, but i just don't get it.

thanks,
megan

[SuperManny]

for those that are on the george green team, what i do not understand is why buy into a scenario from what i understand that says we are too late at this point in time to have a positive effect on the planet because it's too little too late. if i have this wrong, please correct me because i didn't listen to the whole thing. but this is driving me crazy:d
megan, you raise a very good point, because if you read his channeled books, they state repeatedly that the 'bad' guys are not going to win, ("you are on the winning side", "their plan will never be allowed to be successful", etc.) yet if you watch the videos, he sounds like he feels just the opposite. so, i don't get it, either.:confused:
almost sounds like he feels that he would have a more important role with the negative scenario, with all his seminars on preparation, and getting groups together, etc.

just another reason i recommend the books instead of the movie. :)

[Mozart]

first of all: megan...that was a nice post and i agree with the points that you have made and i'd like to add that it is actually not "faith" that supports the more-positive futures -- it is already well-established that we humans on the planet are getting an enormous amount of assistance, direct and indirect, from our unseen friends in the higher dimensions.


if it weren't for their assistance that we called in and prayed for, it would be all over now with the darkest scenarios becoming fully realized. all over. fully cooked and destroyed.


but, thank god, we are have been assisted -- and are still -- by our unseen friends, so we actually have very bright futures ahead of us...if we focus on attracting those positive futures towards us.


we have added talented transcribers on our talented transcriber team that has merged with the project camelot site; one of the new ones, gwen, a virtuoso typist and pianist, has volunteered to transcribe the george green material that has become a bit of a hot potato with nearly nobody wanting to transcribe it, so a big "thank you!" to gwen for stepping up on this one.


~seth

[astraya]

and may la la land, and all it's inhabitants live on happily forever! i've been there a few times, myself. (at least that's what one of my ex-wives used to say), but that's the part where ya go blonde, put your hands over your ears, and....well you know the drill.

just wondering why it's ok for people to describe "blonde moments" but not "arab moments" or "asian moments"...you get the idea. what's next internment camps for the the nordic-looking?

[Robert Riedel]

just wondering why it's ok for people to describe "blonde moments" but not "arab moments" or "asian moments"...you get the idea. what's next internment camps for the the nordic-looking?

that is an excellent question! the answer must be something like this- you are participating in a moderated forum- what ever you decide to post here goes through a review process before being posted, by our trusty mod squad, and this will include being deleted, modified, edited, links removed, redirected, if off topic, or any other sort of horrible affronts to your personal ego/ integrity. deal with it!/ get over it! we're all just human becomings, trying to become, participating in this relatively new method of sharing thoughts, ideas, and concerns that we are all finding in common, so- welcome aboard! ;) and i totally agree about them nordics- they're way out of control, and something must be done! by the way, did ya hear the one about the jew, the arab, and the canadian?..........

bob

[MarkM]

eh, wot?!

bob, if it includes reference to igloos and/or caribou, i don't want to hear it!;)

-mark (from the great greening north)

[Robert Riedel]

ok, mark, if i ever remember, and there's no igloos, i'll pm ya. another mark, (twain) once said: "the human race has one really effective weapon, and that is laughter." are we getting off topic, here, or what, eh?

bob

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

ok, mark, if i ever remember, and there's no igloos, i'll pm ya. another mark, (twain) once said: "the human race has one really effective weapon, and that is laughter." are we getting off topic, here, or what, eh?

bob

how about this for off topic, look at your posting time bud it is 5:55 and this is may 5th so you do the math. oh and by the way it's my wife's birthday and her cousin gave birth to triplets ( natural conception ) this morning. i've been seeing synchronicities all the time lately, it's not even funny:d .............sylvain................

[astraya]

that is an excellent question! the answer must be something like this- you are participating in a moderated forum- what ever you decide to post here goes through a review process before being posted, by our trusty mod squad, and this will include being deleted, modified, edited, links removed, redirected, if off topic, or any other sort of horrible affronts to your personal ego/ integrity. deal with it!/ get over it! we're all just human becomings, trying to become, participating in this relatively new method of sharing thoughts, ideas, and concerns that we are all finding in common, so- welcome aboard! ;) and i totally agree about them nordics- they're way out of control, and something must be done! by the way, did ya hear the one about the jew, the arab, and the canadian?..........

bob

i guess we all know why you have ex-wives!

[transiten]

hello

i usually am the suspiscious scorpio sun conjunct mercury square plutoinquisitive person....but after wathcing the first video with george... my gutfeeling says he is not manipulating us, at least i think he thinks he speaks the truth...a fact that makes me suspiscious about my own gutfeeling of course....this information resontate with much of what i've come across in my life....

i'll walk my dog and watch the second part later...

liliane

[osiris]

my goodness!

congratulations!

xoxoxoxo!;)

[nem338nem]

take it easy, let's watch our egos, be forgiving and accepting and never forget our sense of humor. even i have had 3 ex's , working on my potentential 4th (just no papers are needed) man i loooove relationships. but i have got to forgive and forget as we all must. this is where i like to go, when in despair:

i should have placed this under the music posting because it is actually a song and it goes like this: (a 1 and a 2 and 3)

deck the universe with spheres of jolly, la la la la, la la la laaaaaand!

peace

[astraya]

have you ever had the impression that someone would want to set up a groupthink-boys club in a discussion forum and intellectualize himself out of opening his heart in the real world???

boa constrictor hug & sloppy wet kisses from the snake goddess
(with chinese husband, american kids & four arab nieces and nephews)

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

my goodness!

congratulations!

xoxoxoxo!;)

thanks osiris,

yes three little girls:d two are identical, must be the feminine rays comming in;) ...............sylvain.......................

[larissa]

this is the most fun thread right now. polarity, duality, slight hysteria, a touch of madness and even some good news. all good stuff. as long as nobody gets hurt. is that why it's better to be on computers instead of face to face? is this a valid venting medium? hope so.

how about starting a thread about dr. deagle? lots of grist for the mill there. i love to agree with people and i love to argue with them. if one needs to attack, are the forum members the best ones to go for? i don't know, i'm just asking.

what i put out, i get back. whenever i feel the need to critisize someone, i know it's something in me that is out of wack, nothing to do with them. just reminding myself.

[Robert Riedel]

yes, absolutely, larissa, this is becoming a fun thread- ( must we always stay on topic?) (retorical question),, because, "fun's where the fair's at", and the show's finally now just getting started, (after a year of growing pains) or at least the tempo's picking up a bit. i couldn't find anywhere in the forum rules the requirement to "leave your ego at the door when signing-in, "higher-self-communications-only allowed here, and please retreive when leaving," so yes indeed, it's all here on the ol' small, but growing fast dc forum community. we've got the seekers, the wanderers, the wonderers, the screamin' egos, the ego-less, the clue-less, and the clued-in, and of course langley's ludicrous (you can't hide behind your grease-paint, clowns- we "see" ya!) to which i say welcome!:)

may i also, at this point suggest that we give our moderators a big raise- so they can afford more aspirin. our un-sung heros- keeping this civil for all.

as the gg guy is the topic of this thread, may i offer chap. 21 of the handbook for the new paradigm as an explaination of just what function the george greens, the dr. deagles, and all the other members of the conspiracy club are really doing for us all, and since the prevailing opinion is that we really are all one, i find this says it a lot better that i can. (no sarcasm, either)

so, in the words of the imortal rodney king,........... just perhaps, rather than trying to climb-over each other on this race to the top-o-the-mountain, we rather should just find a wider ladder- one that we can all climb up along side each other. and while i am cognizant of the fact that "arguements by anology, are by their very own nature, imperfect," personally, i prefer a good "2x4"- and love to swing 'em around in my own loving-kind-o-way.

so, if anyone is taking any of this personallly- get over it. it's not meant for anyone in particular. i'm just preaching to the choir here; swingin' my lumber, and singing a happy song...:d

bob

[nem338nem]

let's see basically we all have ego's. thus we are all fractal's of the one (god) if you like. therefore, we are one and not the same. in essensense our own universe within the universe (this s**t) gets so old sometimes); we have our each indivividual expressions but we are not the same , yet we are. this is what people fail to remeber. as one grows closer back to the one, they then realize they are one. then you repeat the process 900 billion . billlion times more, x's infinity.

how do you want to do it, over and over, get it done -- to hell with egos---- we are one!!

prolong it if you wish----------------- i wish not!

bye bye

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hi robert riedel

you mean that gg is a conspiricist? i have'n t read the handbook. could you give a short explanation. and why is gg allowed and not david icke in that case? a question for the mods also..

liliane

[billybobbutterball]

hi robert riedel

you mean that gg is a conspiricist? i have'n t read the handbook. could you give a short explanation. and why is gg allowed and not david icke in that case? a question for the mods also..

liliane

dear liliane

let's see if this helps bit...

george green accidentally slipped under the radar for a number of novel reasons. as i mentioned in an early posting we were stretching the rules in this case to accomodate some questions concerning the similarity of george's observations with the law of one, and thus treading on slippery ground. the volume and quality of reponse has been such that it would be a bit awkward to pull the plug on the whole thread...but postings are expected to be kept sorta squeaky clean.

george green is not a conspiracy "theorist" in the image of such as david icke...george is merely a keen observer concerning the factual reality of political life.:p

the handbook for a new paradigm is a very powerful and positive oriented call for spiritual strivers to strive together. it says all the right things, but some questions arise concerning the authorship. the off-worlders involved are a group of fourth density individuals called the pleiadians who are operating independantly of the planetary council. the trouble may be is that they are the "parenting" type of positive ets which may unknowingly cause some harm by "helping" too much and by doing so intrude on the law of confusion -- that very rule of protecting and maintaining "freedom of the earthling's will".

and there is some question about their seemingly altruistic motivation being accompanied by their admitted self-interest in this matter. their suggested motto/affrimation is: "i'm a human becoming, help me to become!" that sounds good, but exactly what is the end result of "become?" it could be taken for as a call for help outside of oneself...would an ultimately better path/goal be in specifically appealing for the needed help from our higher self? makes one pause to consider.

it has been pointed out on this thread that george has moved away from the very positive outlook presented in the earlier writings by now stating in so many words that it appears that a critical point has been passed without seeing a high enough volume increase in the quality of earthling consciousness...thus in george's eyes things are not looking all that rosy for the hoped for smooooth transition option.

but the point is also made that this bump in the road is not a reason for throwing in the towel...if anything we need to strive stronger and wiser...and of course more lovingly! exactly the course advised in the handbook.:)

does this little essay help?? or did i miss the boat? hmmm. i could write a treatise. ---- :rolleyes:

(in any case you better read this quick before another moderator "moderates" me! :eek: )

love, etc. bbb

[Robert Riedel]

hey, bbb, lilane,and all,

bill, thanks for covering my "6" while i took a nap. :) got a few thoughts to throw up here on this topic before us here, and in order to save keystrokes, i will here-after refer to conspiracy theorists as ct's. ct, is just another one of those silly labels we english speaking peoples use to label anyone who does not fit the main-stream media's (msm) version of their created version of reality that has been so (lovingly?)constructed, and designed for our use, enjoyment,and entertainment. in other words, the "accepted paradigm." examples would be those who continue to insist that 911 was an inside job,(which it was), that oil people make the world go around, (which they don't), etc.

in that respect, this forum has sort of adapted a type of msm aproach to ct's as bbb has mentioned, but for different reasons- who needs all that "bs"? there are tons of other sites on the internet to which you may go to to get your fill of that kind of information, and it seems here, that fun and/or the fun of enlightenment stuff and related spiritually oriented topics are the main slant. so, they moderate, to keep the wolves away. of course, there are no real wolves, metaphorically speaking, just ct's trying to swirl the outhouse, don't cha know?;)

and, frankly, i really don't care if david's ickeness is permitted here, or not. personally- i like the bloke. but then, he does talk kinda funny, just like them canadians, and southerners do, ( hey, now- just kidding around here! i only need a 'terpreter when i go to the "deep" south!). but it is a valid question, about the icke guy that you raise, lilane- not for me to say.

and billybobbeingloquacious, i understand your concerns about moderators moderating. i tried it once- it wasn't pretty.:eek: threads not only go bye-bye, they also can get closed- especially when they get too far out into left field, when they should be playing right. so, lesson learned,and a word to the wise-guys. (we know who we are!;) )

ta ta for now, y'all!

bob

[transiten]

hi 5b and thanks! hope the answer doesn't disappear. actually i feel like a conspiricist and an optimist at the same time myself so...busy balancing the opposites, trying to live with the paradoxes...

sunny greetings from gothenburg sweden from "4l"
try to guess what that stands fo(u)r!

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hi riedel

the only riedel i've heard of before is a swedish bassplayer and composer...anyway it's entertaining to read your posts, but for me a little bit to "funny", meaning i don't get all the irony and jokes...(i'm swedish, with a good portion of humour though)

when it comes to "icke" i said in another thread i'm not very fond of his "vibes", even if much of what he says rings true, he is too paranoid for "my taste" (i'm struggling with paranoia myself so i need some healthy balance). when i wrote that post, a strange man that looks a lot like icke crossed my path twice...i haven't seen him since...until yesterday, after posting in this thread...

liliane the reptilian (scorpio)

[Robert Riedel]

hi liliane

well, this riedel is about 100% deutsch, although born in amerika, i am a bassplayer, can't read a lick of music- never cared to learn- that's why we've got these funny-looking things on the sides of our head, in my humble opinion, and i compose the same way- by ear- never the same twice.

and, i don't do "vibes". but, put someone in front of me, and let me look into their eyes, and i'll tell ya their story. never meet mr. ickey, but i have dealt with his family operated publishing side a few times, and he's ok in my book. i like books. i'm waist deep in 'em. but, then opinions are like earlobes- we all got-em.

and my favorite food is fried rattlesnake! indeed, what a small world, eh? and, thank you...

bob

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synchronicities, every step i take, they'll be watching me...another favourite bassplayer/singer/composer of mine is sting, but beware of the one from the scorpion; i'm a singer/songwriter myself, play guitar and fiddle, can read some music...somehow your way of communicating, the sunglasses and the headgear told me your profession. i'm not 100% french, but 25% born in sweden.........and prefer shrimps.......

by the way, are the majority of the forummemebers "alone" with this kind of information we share on this website and if so, is there some kind of meaning/lesson to that? i only have one close friend that is into this kind of stuff and she lives far away...... it's a frustrating condition, never thought i'd become a person being so much on the "net"...

liliane

[meganarline]

by the way, are the majority of the forummemebers "alone" with this kind of information we share on this website and if so, is there some kind of meaning/lesson to that? i only have one close friend that is into this kind of stuff and she lives far away...... it's a frustrating condition, never thought i'd become a person being so much on the "net"...

that would be me too. no one else close to me really wants to talk about it. that's why i love this place. i'm not sure what the meaning/lesson is though.

megan

[MarkM]

i hadn't the pleasure of being able to have a wide ranging convo with anything to do with the law of one in my lifetime of being aware of it, until the last year or two that i have known kris.

with that came this forum, and the staggering beauty of love presented within these halls. really, this place is sacred and..rare sharing between folks geographically spread across the whole courtyard, yet all coming together within the one square foot of screen you're looking at right now.

a great synchronicity puts kris' back door about 100 yards from my front and boy, could i tell you about a meeting of hearts.

powerful.

mark

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

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by the way, are the majority of the forummemebers "alone" with this kind of information we share on this website and if so, is there some kind of meaning/lesson to that? i only have one close friend that is into this kind of stuff and she lives far away...... it's a frustrating condition, never thought i'd become a person being so much on the "net"...

liliane

we are never "alone". that's the beauty of it. my best alone time is when i can feel the presence of togetherness.

i've learnt not to scare off potentialy awakened ones. i noticed that we do keep to ourselves in our daily lives. all my life i've had to tippy toe around confused ones in order to maintain free will. so many times i've felt like just grabbing anyone and blinding them with pure white light of understanding, like grandparents sometimes spoil their grandkids. i guess all we could do is spread "seeds" around and let them do their thing. now-a-days, their are several people around me that have turned their attention inwards, good for them:) ...........sylvain.............

[Kris]

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a great synchronicity puts kris' back door about 100 yards from my front and boy, could i tell you about a meeting of hearts.

powerful.

mark

we do realize how lucky we are to be able to share together what we share here with everyone else.

however, knowing this always makes me question the fact that i know most people here have found this place on their own from a seeking within. from searching on their own, all alone. i have questioned myself many times because i was shown this place... i did not find it on my own.

kris

[Mozart]

ahem, i don't like the term "conspiracy theorist", as if such "theories" are unproven, wild ideas dreamed up by those who smoke whacky tobaccy all day long.


no, try "conspiracy detectives". yea, that's better. "c.d."


political crime scene forensics in which the evidences of crimes committed are left everywhere and it takes people with the sharp, csi-mindsets to figure out just wtf happened after the fact and, with the patterns of crimes learned, to try to prevent future crimes of similar nature by putting the spotlight on the criminal cockroaches who shun the blazing light of truth/transparency.

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

ahem, i don't like the term "conspiracy theorist", as if such "theories" are unproven, wild ideas dreamed up by those who smoke whacky tobaccy all day long.

no, try "conspiracy detectives". yea, that's better. "c.d."

political crime scene forensics in which the evidences of crimes committed are left everywhere and it takes people with the sharp, csi-mindsets to figure out just wtf happened after the fact and, with the patterns of crimes learned, to try to prevent future crimes of similar nature by putting the spotlight on the criminal cockroaches who shun the blazing light of truth/transparency.

i agree....... let's see, conspiracy theories have no proof or facts what so ever.:eek: no matter how much they resonate, sad but true. it is our job to search for evidence, transforming the theory into a possibility. the more evidence we gather the more probable it becomes..................sylvain.................. ....

[Robert Riedel]

ahem, ahem, cough-cough-

ah, we all love our labels. totally agree, sylvain, i learned that in science class, too, i mean about how theories are only just that- and you set out to find the supporting evidence, theorums, etc., and perhaps after a lot of homework; wow- a scientifically verifiable fact, maybe even a "law!"
and, as mozart says, perhaps we do need some sort of, what, rating system to make sense of it all: ct's, and cd's,- how about cr's too?(conspiracy realists?)

that's what dr. deagle calls his presentation, conspiracy realities, at the granada forum in la, in dec. of 2006. (it's what a lot of us were watching, and sharing, a few weeks ago, when this site took a [break] for a few days). (not for the faint-hearted) ya can "e" me for a link, if you wish, but i wouldn't consider it for putting up on this forum- the posse would be on-'em in a heartbeat.

but, again, they are just all doing their job, to the best of their ability- ok, some may be just in it for a paycheck- but, hey-we all gotta eat, yes?

[nem338nem]

"can you bind the beautiful pleiades?"

"can you loose the cords of orion? ”

— job 38:31

that quote from the bible says it all. as in the negative orion, and positive plieades!

some cool excerpts from wiki:

the celts (and probably considerably earlier), the pleiades were associated with mourning and with funerals, since at that time in history

(remind you of brothers and sisters of sorrow?)

home sweet home perhaps?

the early monte alto culture and others in guatemala such as ujuxte and takalik abaj, made its early observatories, using the pleiades and eta draconis as reference, they were called the seven sisters, and thought to be their original land.


in the bible the pleiades supposedly mentioned as khima (amos 5:8), talmud (berachot 58b) says that it has about 100 stars.

in the arab, persian, and turkic worlds, the pleiades are referred to surayya/ (ثریا) and allegorically refer to something of beauty[citation needed].

in japan, the pleiades are known as 昴 subaru, and have given their name to the car manufacturer whose logo incorporates six stars to represent the five smaller companies that merged into one. subaru telescope, located in mauna kea observatory on hawaii, is named after the pleiades also.

[jax]

remember, there are 2 sides of a coin. ;) balance is the key that unlocks the door to inner peace. and if we are at peace, nothing can shake us, not even death of the physical body. star wars explains it all with metaphors. thanks to obi wan kenobi and darth vadar. hang in there, kiddos.