Does Ra say anything about non-violence?

[AmelieJolie]

I just wondered, because I am reading stuff relating to non-violence at the moment and it raised other questions in my mind (as always) such as different situations.

I have bookmarked this link:

http://www.lawofone.info/

So if anyone could just point me in the right direction, then that would be great.

By the way, is this the complete Ra material?

[Firewalker]

Non violence, now isn't this a synchronicity considering my recent feelings, thoughts, and behaviours.

The only thing I can remember at the moment are the fact that some entities chose to get beaten to death without hitting back as a very harsh learning of non violence.

llresearch is the place you gotta go for the books.

[AmelieJolie]

I'll have to go through the link I put in my first post if I want to try and find an answer, though it doesn't appear to specify anything in relation to my question.

The Ra material can be a little "long-winded". ;) :p

[MarkM]

Ra say this in regards to violence/non-violence:

Questioner: Can you give me the same type of information that we are working on now with respect to war and rumors of war?

Ra: I am Ra. You may see this in relationship to your gadgets. This war and self relationship is a fundamental perception of the maturing entity. There is a great chance to accelerate in whatever direction is desired. One may polarize negatively by assuming bellicose attitudes for whatever reason. One may find oneself in the situation of war and polarize somewhat towards the positive activating orange, yellow, and then green rays by heroic, if you may call them this, actions taken to preserve the mind/body/spirit complexes of other-selves.

Finally, one may polarize very strongly third ray by expressing the principle of universal love at the total expense of any distortion towards involvement in bellicose actions. In this way the entity may become a conscious being in a very brief span of your time/space. This may be seen to be what you would call a traumatic progression. It is to be noted that among your entities a large percentage of all progression has as catalyst, trauma.

I am reminded of the movie, 'Forrest Gump', in which the character played by Tom Hanks returns repeatedly to the scene of heavy enemy shelling, in Viet Nam, to carry his wounded comrades to safety, displaying a strong sense of selfless bravery.

In the most intense of life's situations is seen the greatest transformative catalyst offered. Truly, one can choose how they react to any situation as love can be wrung from the hardest stone.

No matter what circumstances play themselves out in your life, the opportunity to discern a positive, peaceful, love offering is present, if only you choose to perceive it.

[AmelieJolie]

Thanks, Mark.

There are many great teachers out there who clarify those words you highlighted from Ra, one being Ghandii. I just read a deeply inspiring re-telling of true story from ancient India;
Once upon a time in northern India, there lived a violent and fearsome outcast called Angulimala ('necklace of fingers'). He terrorised towns and villages in order to try to gain control of the state, murdering people and adding their fingers to his gruesome necklace. The Buddha set out to meet Angulimala, and with the power of love and compassion he persuaded him to renounce violence and take responsibility for his past actions. Thus Angulimala was transformed. In the Prologue, called 'Talking to Terrorists', the author discusses how we can best deal with the phenomenon of international terrorism.
(Email me if you'd like the title of the book).

And here's an extract from another book by the same author (email me if you'd like the title):

As we drank ukali, Mother asked Goplaji why the mantra of 'Aum shanti shanti shanti' has become so universally recognised as the supreme mantra?
"If you chant this mantra, the very sound of it is enough to make you return to your centre. It is like the tulsi plant, the river Ganga, or the holy cow, it is a sacred word to make all words sacred.
"Aum is made up of three sounds, A, U, M. In sanskrit, 'A' is the first and 'M' is the last letter of the alphabet, while U represents all the letters in between. So in the mantra Aum the entire structure of the language is distilled. It is our essence of all speech and of all existence, because according to our ancient tradition, existence itself emerged out of the sound 'Aum'.
"Goddess Uma, the consort of Lord Shiva, takes her name from the mantra Aum because she is the mother of all creation. Uma means mother. The mantra Aum is the Mother Principle. It means all, whole, complete. In Aum nothing is left out and everything is included".
While Gopalji was speaking Mother became totally absorbed, and her ukali was getting cold. I could see why Mother was so fond of Gopalji. He had such a clear and simple understanding of the matters which interested her.
Goplaji knew the Bhagavad Gita, which means Song of the Lord, one of India's great scriptures, by heart. He considered this "the most beautiful and eloquent poem ever written, where sound, mind and meaning converge". Goplaji was a Sanskrit scholar- although I don't know what difference that made, since Mother was as fluent in elucidating profound truths. Her illiteracy was no handicap. I was happy that I grew up in the company of such a mother and teacher.

Goplaji had not finished; he was enjoying himself in explaining the meaning of Aum to Mother.
"Aum is an affirmative mantra. It simply means 'yes'- yes to existence, yes to the sun and moon, yes to trees and rivers, yes to our friends and families, yes to you and me, yes to this brew we are drinking, yes to life and its beauty. It is a mantra of acceptance and openness, a mantra of positive thinking. We should chant it as often as we can. There is no fixed time for it. We don't have to sit cross-legged in a room to chant it; we can chant it while eating, bathing, walking- any time".
There was a pause. Mother poured more ukali into Goplaji's brass cup. In our house there was neither glass, china, nor plastic. Utensils were made of metal: brass, bronze and silver. Goplaji held the cup with a handkerchief, as their was no handle, to avoid being burned. He was savouring the drink. After allowing a brief breathing space Mother probed him further:

"Then how about shanti, shanti, shanti?"

It seemed as if Gopalji was waiting for such a question, and I was waiting too. Conversations between Mother and Goplaji were never boring.
" 'Shanti' in Sanskrit simply means peace. Peace is the ultimate discovery. Aren't we all searching for peace? When we are at peace we can find happiness and fulfilment".
"But why do we need to say it three times?" Mother asked.
"First of all we have to make peace with ourselves by accepting who we are. Each and everyone of us is a particular manifestation of the universal energy. We need to recognise that particularity and 'eachness'; that individuality. Often we have a habit of despising ourselves; 'I am not good enough' is a very common expression. This means I am at war with myself. Unless I can make peace within, how can I make peace without? Without inner peace no outer peace can be realised.

"If our society is full of people who have self-respect, have no negative thoughts, and who have achieved a degree of peace of mind, then naturally they will not fear any 'enemies'. But if spiritually we have not been able to overcome our personal fears then it is very easy for governments and military leaders to encourage fear of an external enemy. Every day they tell us about the enemies. It suits them. It is in their interest. They want to create fear and keep us in fear. Fear of our neighbours, fear of Hindus, fear of Muslims, fear of Christians, fear of other countries. We are all divided into different groups and fear somebody. We even fear our wife or husband, or fear our children. No wonder that we have leaders who spend much of the world's resources on armaments! It may not be so easy to see the connection between spiritual peace and political peace, between inner peace and world peace, but these two aspects are inseparable, totally interlinked.

"As long as we expect the world to change in our image, it will not change. The fear, the mistrust, the competitiveness, the insecurity that we see between nations and their leaders are rooted in us. The fear we have in our lives accumulates, and becomes national fear, national mistrust, national disunity, national insecurity.
"So unless we begin with ourselves we cannot achieve peace; we cannot even begin to understand what peace means.
"Once I have made peace with myself I have to make peace with the world. Like thinking 'I am not good enough', we also think 'My family is not good enough, my work is not good enough, society is not good enough, government is not good enough'. We are possessed with this negative force, and therefore there is no peace. So we need to recognise the essential and intrinsic goodness of the world, and build upon it the ideal world of our dreams. Then we will have world peace".
That was the time of our second world war, so he continued, "There is a false superiority from which we suffer: 'I am better than you, my religion is better than yours. My country is superior to yours' and so on. This kind of thinking produces inter-religious and national wars. Therefore, making peace with other races, religions and nations is included in this chant". Goplaji paused for a moment.
"And why do we invoke peace the third time?" Mother asked.
"When there is world peace, then we make peace with nature, with the cosmos, with the gods- with the universe. The world does not only consist of humans- and therefore we need to make peace with all life forms, going beyond the human world. The whole earth is one family- humans, animals, birds, plants- all are related, and therefore we chant 'peace' three times so that it prevails and permeates these three spheres, personal, social and cosmic. We send our noble thoughts of peace to all corners of the universe."

Mother had no watch, and nor did Goplaji. I could sense that Goplaji was ready to leave, yet somehow he felt that what he had said was inconclusive. He stood up, and so did Mother and I, but we did not move.
Goplaji looked serious, and he said: "But we mustn't think that personal peace is separate from world peace, nor world peace separate from cosmic peace. It is not that we have to wait for world peace until we have achieved personal peace. Personal, political, and planetary peace are to be pursued together. One includes and reinforces the others. One kind of peace is not possible without the others. The three dimensions of peace belong together". Goplaji smiled. Now he looked relaxed and with both palms together he bowed. Mother bowed to him and I touched his feet. He put his hand on my head in blessing.

[soup]

...So if anyone could just point me in the right direction, then that would be great...



What comes to mind for me is the nature of progression through the densities, that accelerated progression is the opportunity of life within the lower densities and that progression within higher densities takes longer periods of time.

The nature of violence seems one of speed, that violent events can happen very fast. So the nature of the lower densities may seem inherently violent in contrast to the higher densities.

The difficulty in balancing violence may point in the direction of sorrow. Maybe this relates to "the brothers and sisters of sorrow".

Something about that reminds me of the polarities of the sexes: pure masculine nature as intrinsicly severe (i.e. violent) as compared with pure feminine nature intrinsicly merciful, as entwined within the tree of life.

This gets back to brain waves - maybe a balanced state conducive to spiritual growth (as with a silent mind) exemplifies a state of non-violence.

(My impression is that a good maternal role seems more STO than STS,
maybe a good mom is non-violent in some ways.)



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[soup]

......So if anyone could just point me in the right direction, then that would be great...


More simply stated, pain can often accompany violence and thus reveal direction. A non violent direction may offer opportunity of less pain.
Here one may be one's own best advocate. Personally, I advmire Joseph Campbell's advice: follow your bliss.


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[soup]

...The only thing I can remember at the moment are the fact that some entities chose to get beaten to death without hitting back as a very harsh learning of non violence...

This brings up the image of parents spanking their children. I was spanked as a child - found it humiliating, but realize that's not the only way to humiliate a person. I think that there are some people who refuse to spank their children but can seem more damaging from a verbally abusive perspective - that in some circumstances, spanking can seem as a lesser of two evils.

There's probably some who prefer physical spanking over verbal tongue lashings, and this may relate to how people may come to "choose" their parents in some way or another.


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[PriestOfLight]

I have always summed it up with a quote from Gandhi:

"We must become the change we want to see."

[Metamike]

Ra states specifically that violence used to "fight off" negative polarized influence can only prolong the contact. The best form for offense/defense is to offer unconditional love!
Mike:)