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David Wilcock

01-20-2001, 11:00 PM

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>maybe you all would be glad to know that i did take the night off
>and went to visit a physics friend of mine locally. i was surprised
>and delighted to hear that he had run an entire high-school honors
>physics class on the basic gravity / aether theories as i expressed
>them to him in previous conversations, actually put the website
>link on the board and had the kids go check it out. one kid said,
>"if he can pull this off he'll definitely be famous," and i thought that
>was funny. i guesswhat he meant was that if the material gets out
>there people will definitely get the picture.
>
>anyway i discussed with this friend my latest insights that have
>literally been coming in at the last-minute as i make the final 
>push to finish ciii. i call this the "dynamic solar system
>evolution model." he was absolutely astounded at how new
>and different it was, but how it tied everything together so beautifully.
>mix pulsar b1257+12 with global expansion tectonics and soliton
>wave theory, see the planets as continually moving farther away
>from the sun and expanding in physical size as they punch through
>each new density layer in the aether and you should be well on your
>way. 
>
>one additional teaser is that i believe i have discovered the 
>hyperdimensional basis for understanding and explaining the anomalies
>of the tornado. it hit me while we were talking. what it amounts to
>is an explanation of weather as well. i think now that weather has
>much more to do with energy currents inside the earththat interface
>with currents in the atmosphere and cosmos. 
>
>the more i figure this all out the more i am astonished to be the one
>who did it first. that's very exciting - and my friend was quite honored
>to be the first person to hear this new information.
>
>if it wasn't for the all-importance of the one i am strongly tempted to
>name all of this "life science." you'll see why when i release the book.
>it's already a heck of a lot different than the proposed outline at the
>header page of ciii. each new dream or reading or meditation session
>knits more and more of these strings together. 
>
>peace be with you -
>
>- david
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style="background: #e4e4e4; font: 10pt arial; font-color: black">from: clark stewart (fudoshin09@hotmail.com)
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style="font: 10pt arial">sent: saturday, january 20, 2001 10:37 pm
style="font: 10pt arial">subject: re: [asc2k] drunvalo and david's latest reading
>
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word to that too...fully seen that coming, and as the natives have allways
told me.
"we have taught you nothing new, we are just reminding you of what has been
forgotten."
and forgetting is not hard when you are pushing yourself in 16hr sets...take
a break and stretch it out..
my friend has gone to the depths of writing "love", and "happiness" on his
hands, just to keep it freshly implanted into the psyche.
sounds silly, but you would be surprised...
c
>
>hi david,
> i have to respectfully remind you that you do create your own
>reality....absolutely... and if you continue to affirm that you are "under
>incredible and seemingly ever-increasing stress" ...then tthat is what you
>create...for yourself. if you intend to 'crack up' and get yourself out
>of this situation then you are free so to do.
>
> much as i still have yet to learn from you and others....i have
>understood quite clearly how we each create our reality....by the beliefs
>we hold and the thoughts we choose, moment by moment.
>
> seth has been my main tutor. i hope you don't mind me reminding
>you of what you already know. personally i believe that if what we do is
>not effortlesss then we are not doing it right !
>
> with love, leonard.
>
>
>--- david wilcock <djw333@exis.net> wrote: > perfectly stated, larry.
>thank you.
> >
> > as for self-aggrandizement i'm only one man under incredible and
> > seemingly ever-increasing stress, with a team of collaborators whose
> > suggestions and research i fuse together; collaborators both on earth
> > and in higher realms. i'm constantly having to figure out how to deal
> > with people who are friendly enough but also want to leverage as much of
> > my time as they can get, just because they enjoy my presence. i don't
> > dislike them by any means, but in order to practice "service for the
> > greater good" i have had to make some very hard decisions about time
> > allocation and even now i continue to go through these painful prunings;
> > in this case local commitments to fellowship board and soj choir, where
> > i am a percussionist. it can't all happen at the same time if i am to
> > manage my life. every time i answer the phone i am in danger of further
> > distraction; will it be fifteen minutes, 45 minutes, two hours? i have
> > to maintain constant focus.
> >
> > i did snap at people making derogatory statements about me on this list
> > a few times and i did make the appropriate apology, which i think is all
> > too uncommon for a public figure to do. on the deeper level, if someone
> > thinks i'm an @$$ then why join this list or visit the website? :) it's
> > all free will, friends! my work is your work, i'm not trying to cash in
> > on you or hide behind a wall of silence - i try to participate here as
> > well as to continue putting out new material. you won't be paying to
> > read the results of convergence iii, which has come with incredible
> > blood, sweat and tears now being shed at great financial, time and
> > personal expense. so if there are those who judge me, know that i do not
> > judge myself this way.
> >
> > furthermore, let's not confuse the messenger with the message. in a
> > human body we have faults, and all i can continue to do is to try to
> > purify and uplift myself as much as possible so that those faults are
> > minimized to a degree where they do not impede on the quality of data
> > that comes through. and i feel that especially in the most recent
> > readings, i have done quite the good job:
> >
> > http://ascension2000.com/12.17.00.htm
> >
> > and as a function of higher development i really don't care what others
> > think about me, at all; and therein lies freedom. i think that point
> > finally sunk in after our debacle in december; i realized that in order
> > for me to proceed i would have to stop caring about the negative
> > feedback. and that's a freeing thought.
> >
> > regarding bernard / bernie / dru. i'm not out to "piss people off" or
> > say "thou shalt not heed the words of mr. perona," et cetera. some of
> > what he's got is really powerful stuff, no doubt; but he's also missed
> > an incredible amount and never really made the final connections between
> > all those data points of sacred geometry, the cycles themselves and how
> > "it" will actually happen from the physics perspective. in that respect,
> > someone who has studied fol should find happiness in seeing how the
> > convergence series goes the final mile in tying all that data together
> > into unity, and without financial burden.
> >
> > all i'm saying is that i am by no means alone in seeing the polarity, as
> > larry also expressed. my most vivid memory was of a family at the
> > fellowship coming up to me and asking me with genuine concern on their
> > faces if they would still be able to "make it" if they couldn't afford
> > to learn perona's breathing and visualization techniques. they had been
> > told that if they didn't do this they couldn't "activate their light
> > body" and would get stuck in 3d or die as the shift occurred. i had to
> > laugh and shake my head and explain that the only consideration is the
> > degree of service-to-others polarity - period. do we need someone else
> > to pipe up and support this point for us to see that this is exactly
> > what a negative-tainted channel would try to make people think?
> >
> > another example: it was quite disturbing to see how readily someone who
> > followed mr. perona wrote about coming up to him at a conference,
> > hugging him and basically ladling the syup on super-thick about how he
> > was the melchizedek / messiah and this and this. from what i remember he
> > made no statements about this but it was quite easy to find from
> > material of his. i would do anything i could to damage-control someone
> > pedestalizing me like that, first and foremost by stating that i did not
> > agree with the assessment.
> >
> > i also know a very good psychic woman who had been following perona,
> > going to the lectures and paying beaucoup-de bucks, and became very
> > disillusioned with him. powerful, stinging, wake-up sweating dreams
> > combined with her own psychic ability to see entities around a person
> > sent her hi-tailin' it out of there when she realized what had happened
> > to perona. that's right, no refund, no argument, just get the heck out
> > of there. that was in 1998 that she told me that so it probably happened
> > around 1997.
> >
> > i like "ancient secret... volume 1" as a book; it should have happened
> > earlier. i have a video excerpt from his original series and it is very
> > much less impressive. he seems bored and dead and there are many classic
> > behavioral / body language signs of a person lying that he displays at
> > various points when certain questions are asked.
> >
> > my final point is that ra proved themselves vibrationally. like larry
> > says i think perona can possibly boost you up to 5d positive if you are
> > capable of taking all the positives of what he teaches and applying it
> > to your own life. i have no doubt that he has helped many people and
> > that a guided meditation technique that focuses on breathing and sacred
> > geometry is valuable for anyone to use.
> >
> > now it's back to another full day of service so that this book can be
> > "out" as soon as possible.
> >
> > peace be with you -
> >
> > - david
> >
> > ----- original message -----
> > from: larry henson
> > to: asc2k@egroups.com
> > sent: saturday, january 20, 2001 10:02 am
> > subject: [asc2k] drunvalo and david's latest reading
> >
> >
> > i, too, have heard drunvalo speak. the meditation from that session
> > was deep. he emanates an aura of compassion. he does bring up paradoxes.
> > i take a lot of what he says with a grain of salt. his flower of life
> > stuff is mainly 5th level stuff. from the ra perspective, that level can
> > be distorted with negative energies. we seem to have a fear of being
> > unconsciously swayed by the negative forces.
> >
> > drunvalo has much truth in what he says. there are things in his life
> > that bring up questions. if we look at david's latest reading, we are
> > admonished to view the negative in a new perspective. we need to see it
> > from the unity perspective. my recent listening to carolyn myss's energy
> > anatomy discussion of the 6th chakra helps in this discussion. she talks
> > of how we need to ask to see the truth of ourselves. this will bring
> > into view our shadow, those parts of ourself we do not want to see.we
> > need to understand how our shadow has helped us in our spiritual
> > development. it provides the grist for the mill.
> >
> > ra says that the negative energies cannot evolve into the 6th level.
> > this corresponds to the integration of our shadow. we need to accept the
> > truth that drunvalo has brought into our lives, seeing the positive and
> > the negative as equal expressions of our divine natures.
> >
> > in truth and beauty,
> > larry
> >
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Jeremy Weiland

01-22-2001, 11:33 PM

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> funny how even a night off yields an amazing insight into hyperdimensional physics. 
> but that's david "too cool to drink beer and watch tv on my time off" wilcock for ya.
> hope you got some great r & r buddy :-)
>
> love, light, and cheese*,
> jeremy
>
>* third item in salutation may not conform to wilcock standards for bland and tasteless diet. add olive oil if neccessary.
>
>:-)
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style="font: 10pt arial">----- original message -----
style="background: #e4e4e4; font: 10pt arial; font-color: black">from: david wilcock (djw333@exis.net)
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style="font: 10pt arial">sent: sunday, january 21, 2001 2:00 am
style="font: 10pt arial">subject: [asc2k] r & r
>

>maybe you all would be glad to know that i did take the night off
>and went to visit a physics friend of mine locally. i was surprised
>and delighted to hear that he had run an entire high-school honors
>physics class on the basic gravity / aether theories as i expressed
>them to him in previous conversations, actually put the website
>link on the board and had the kids go check it out. one kid said,
>"if he can pull this off he'll definitely be famous," and i thought that
>was funny. i guesswhat he meant was that if the material gets out
>there people will definitely get the picture.
>
>anyway i discussed with this friend my latest insights that have
>literally been coming in at the last-minute as i make the final 
>push to finish ciii. i call this the "dynamic solar system
>evolution model." he was absolutely astounded at how new
>and different it was, but how it tied everything together so beautifully.
>mix pulsar b1257+12 with global expansion tectonics and soliton
>wave theory, see the planets as continually moving farther away
>from the sun and expanding in physical size as they punch through
>each new density layer in the aether and you should be well on your
>way. 
>
>one additional teaser is that i believe i have discovered the 
>hyperdimensional basis for understanding and explaining the anomalies
>of the tornado. it hit me while we were talking. what it amounts to
>is an explanation of weather as well. i think now that weather has
>much more to do with energy currents inside the earththat interface
>with currents in the atmosphere and cosmos. 
>
>the more i figure this all out the more i am astonished to be the one
>who did it first. that's very exciting - and my friend was quite honored
>to be the first person to hear this new information.
>
>if it wasn't for the all-importance of the one i am strongly tempted to
>name all of this "life science." you'll see why when i release the book.
>it's already a heck of a lot different than the proposed outline at the
>header page of ciii. each new dream or reading or meditation session
>knits more and more of these strings together. 
>
>peace be with you -
>
>- david
<blockquote style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: #000000 2px solid; margin-right: 0px">
style="font: 10pt arial">----- original message -----
style="background: #e4e4e4; font: 10pt arial; font-color: black">from: clark stewart (fudoshin09@hotmail.com)
style="font: 10pt arial">to: asc2k@egroups.com
style="font: 10pt arial">sent: saturday, january 20, 2001 10:37 pm
style="font: 10pt arial">subject: re: [asc2k] drunvalo and david's latest reading
>
<tt>
word to that too...fully seen that coming, and as the natives have allways
told me.
"we have taught you nothing new, we are just reminding you of what has been
forgotten."
and forgetting is not hard when you are pushing yourself in 16hr sets...take
a break and stretch it out..
my friend has gone to the depths of writing "love", and "happiness" on his
hands, just to keep it freshly implanted into the psyche.
sounds silly, but you would be surprised...
c
>
>hi david,
> i have to respectfully remind you that you do create your own
>reality....absolutely... and if you continue to affirm that you are "under
>incredible and seemingly ever-increasing stress" ...then tthat is what you
>create...for yourself. if you intend to 'crack up' and get yourself out
>of this situation then you are free so to do.
>
> much as i still have yet to learn from you and others....i have
>understood quite clearly how we each create our reality....by the beliefs
>we hold and the thoughts we choose, moment by moment.
>
> seth has been my main tutor. i hope you don't mind me reminding
>you of what you already know. personally i believe that if what we do is
>not effortlesss then we are not doing it right !
>
> with love, leonard.
>
>
>--- david wilcock <djw333@exis.net> wrote: > perfectly stated, larry.
>thank you.
> >
> > as for self-aggrandizement i'm only one man under incredible and
> > seemingly ever-increasing stress, with a team of collaborators whose
> > suggestions and research i fuse together; collaborators both on earth
> > and in higher realms. i'm constantly having to figure out how to deal
> > with people who are friendly enough but also want to leverage as much of
> > my time as they can get, just because they enjoy my presence. i don't
> > dislike them by any means, but in order to practice "service for the
> > greater good" i have had to make some very hard decisions about time
> > allocation and even now i continue to go through these painful prunings;
> > in this case local commitments to fellowship board and soj choir, where
> > i am a percussionist. it can't all happen at the same time if i am to
> > manage my life. every time i answer the phone i am in danger of further
> > distraction; will it be fifteen minutes, 45 minutes, two hours? i have
> > to maintain constant focus.
> >
> > i did snap at people making derogatory statements about me on this list
> > a few times and i did make the appropriate apology, which i think is all
> > too uncommon for a public figure to do. on the deeper level, if someone
> > thinks i'm an @$$ then why join this list or visit the website? :) it's
> > all free will, friends! my work is your work, i'm not trying to cash in
> > on you or hide behind a wall of silence - i try to participate here as
> > well as to continue putting out new material. you won't be paying to
> > read the results of convergence iii, which has come with incredible
> > blood, sweat and tears now being shed at great financial, time and
> > personal expense. so if there are those who judge me, know that i do not
> > judge myself this way.
> >
> > furthermore, let's not confuse the messenger with the message. in a
> > human body we have faults, and all i can continue to do is to try to
> > purify and uplift myself as much as possible so that those faults are
> > minimized to a degree where they do not impede on the quality of data
> > that comes through. and i feel that especially in the most recent
> > readings, i have done quite the good job:
> >
> > http://ascension2000.com/12.17.00.htm
> >
> > and as a function of higher development i really don't care what others
> > think about me, at all; and therein lies freedom. i think that point
> > finally sunk in after our debacle in december; i realized that in order
> > for me to proceed i would have to stop caring about the negative
> > feedback. and that's a freeing thought.
> >
> > regarding bernard / bernie / dru. i'm not out to "piss people off" or
> > say "thou shalt not heed the words of mr. perona," et cetera. some of
> > what he's got is really powerful stuff, no doubt; but he's also missed
> > an incredible amount and never really made the final connections between
> > all those data points of sacred geometry, the cycles themselves and how
> > "it" will actually happen from the physics perspective. in that respect,
> > someone who has studied fol should find happiness in seeing how the
> > convergence series goes the final mile in tying all that data together
> > into unity, and without financial burden.
> >
> > all i'm saying is that i am by no means alone in seeing the polarity, as
> > larry also expressed. my most vivid memory was of a family at the
> > fellowship coming up to me and asking me with genuine concern on their
> > faces if they would still be able to "make it" if they couldn't afford
> > to learn perona's breathing and visualization techniques. they had been
> > told that if they didn't do this they couldn't "activate their light
> > body" and would get stuck in 3d or die as the shift occurred. i had to
> > laugh and shake my head and explain that the only consideration is the
> > degree of service-to-others polarity - period. do we need someone else
> > to pipe up and support this point for us to see that this is exactly
> > what a negative-tainted channel would try to make people think?
> >
> > another example: it was quite disturbing to see how readily someone who
> > followed mr. perona wrote about coming up to him at a conference,
> > hugging him and basically ladling the syup on super-thick about how he
> > was the melchizedek / messiah and this and this. from what i remember he
> > made no statements about this but it was quite easy to find from
> > material of his. i would do anything i could to damage-control someone
> > pedestalizing me like that, first and foremost by stating that i did not
> > agree with the assessment.
> >
> > i also know a very good psychic woman who had been following perona,
> > going to the lectures and paying beaucoup-de bucks, and became very
> > disillusioned with him. powerful, stinging, wake-up sweating dreams
> > combined with her own psychic ability to see entities around a person
> > sent her hi-tailin' it out of there when she realized what had happened
> > to perona. that's right, no refund, no argument, just get the heck out
> > of there. that was in 1998 that she told me that so it probably happened
> > around 1997.
> >
> > i like "ancient secret... volume 1" as a book; it should have happened
> > earlier. i have a video excerpt from his original series and it is very
> > much less impressive. he seems bored and dead and there are many classic
> > behavioral / body language signs of a person lying that he displays at
> > various points when certain questions are asked.
> >
> > my final point is that ra proved themselves vibrationally. like larry
> > says i think perona can possibly boost you up to 5d positive if you are
> > capable of taking all the positives of what he teaches and applying it
> > to your own life. i have no doubt that he has helped many people and
> > that a guided meditation technique that focuses on breathing and sacred
> > geometry is valuable for anyone to use.
> >
> > now it's back to another full day of service so that this book can be
> > "out" as soon as possible.
> >
> > peace be with you -
> >
> > - david
> >
> > ----- original message -----
> > from: larry henson
> > to: asc2k@egroups.com
> > sent: saturday, january 20, 2001 10:02 am
> > subject: [asc2k] drunvalo and david's latest reading
> >
> >
> > i, too, have heard drunvalo speak. the meditation from that session
> > was deep. he emanates an aura of compassion. he does bring up paradoxes.
> > i take a lot of what he says with a grain of salt. his flower of life
> > stuff is mainly 5th level stuff. from the ra perspective, that level can
> > be distorted with negative energies. we seem to have a fear of being
> > unconsciously swayed by the negative forces.
> >
> > drunvalo has much truth in what he says. there are things in his life
> > that bring up questions. if we look at david's latest reading, we are
> > admonished to view the negative in a new perspective. we need to see it
> > from the unity perspective. my recent listening to carolyn myss's energy
> > anatomy discussion of the 6th chakra helps in this discussion. she talks
> > of how we need to ask to see the truth of ourselves. this will bring
> > into view our shadow, those parts of ourself we do not want to see.we
> > need to understand how our shadow has helped us in our spiritual
> > development. it provides the grist for the mill.
> >
> > ra says that the negative energies cannot evolve into the 6th level.
> > this corresponds to the integration of our shadow. we need to accept the
> > truth that drunvalo has brought into our lives, seeing the positive and
> > the negative as equal expressions of our divine natures.
> >
> > in truth and beauty,
> > larry
> >
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> > get 3 cds for only $9.99!
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> >
> >
> >
>
>
>=====
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>
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