Query- According to Law Of One- What is the purpose of "gaining" a body?

[AmelieJolie]

What is the purpose of coming down here into a body? Is it only to experience existence in this kind of dimension? Can we gain anything, or are we already complete as we are? Is there a state of "being" beyond vibration that does not require us to "evolve"?

:confused:

Am I unhappy because I ask to many questions?
Or is "wisdom knowing how little we know"?

[twva]

What is the purpose of coming down here into a body?

One possible answer: to become "vivid, upright, and shining with articulated beauty":
Questioner: What was the ultimate objective of this Logos in designing the archetypical mind as It did?

Ra: I am Ra. Each Logos desires to create a more eloquent expression of experience of the Creator by the Creator. The archetypical mind is intended to heighten this ability to express the Creator in patterns more like the fanned peacock’s tail, each facet of the Creator vivid, upright, and shining with articulated beauty. http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=90#16

Can we gain anything, or are we already complete as we are?
Yes and yes.

]Is there a state of "being" beyond vibration that does not require us to "evolve"?
As I understand it, yes, but we chose to evolve for reasons like the ones given above.

[AmelieJolie]

I wrote these thoughts today, after watching a great movie called "Pan's labyrinth": True Success= Truth, Love and Virtue overcoming all temptation.

[Verm]

It was my understanding that the purpose of the body is for us is its a vehicle for consciousness. Through it we project our inner universe in which our consciousness creates and everyone else co-creates.

[This is really a wonderful statement Verm-kudos to you]

[AmelieJolie]

twva,
One possible answer: to become "vivid, upright, and shining with articulated beauty":
Quote:
Questioner: What was the ultimate objective of this Logos in designing the archetypical mind as It did?

Ra: I am Ra. Each Logos desires to create a more eloquent expression of experience of the Creator by the Creator. The archetypical mind is intended to heighten this ability to express the Creator in patterns more like the fanned peacock’s tail, each facet of the Creator vivid, upright, and shining with articulated beauty. http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=90#16 Interesting!

Verm,
It was my understanding that the purpose of the body is for us is its a vehicle for consciousness. Through it we project our inner universe in which our consciousness creates and everyone else co-creates. Cool- well put.

[SuperManny]

Maybe this will help. From session 54
Questioner: The purpose then, seen from previous incarnations, of what we call the incarnate physical state, seems to be wholly or almost wholly that of experiencing at that point the programmed catalyst and then evolving as a function of that catalyst. Is that correct?
Ra: I am Ra. We shall restate for clarity. The purpose of incarnative existence is evolution of mind, body, and spirit. In order to do this it is not strictly necessary to have catalyst. However, without catalyst the desire to evolve and the faith in the process do not normally manifest and thus evolution occurs not. Therefore, catalyst is programmed and the program is designed for the mind/body/spirit complex for its unique requirements. Thus it is desirable that a mind/body/spirit complex be aware of and hearken to the voice of its experiential catalyst, gleaning from it that which it incarnated to glean.
And from session 82
Ra: I am Ra. The purpose of incarnation in third density is to learn the ways of love.
.....The nature of third density is constant. Its ways are to be learned the same now and ever. Thusly, no matter what form the entity facing these lessons, the lessons and mechanisms are the same. The Creator will learn from Itself. Each entity has un-manifest portions of learning and, most importantly, learning which is involved with other-selves.

[AmelieJolie]

So when we are much more fully evolved, and become as "Gods"- then what?

Would we create our own unique life-support systems?

And if we did, would we do anything differently to life as we know it here?

[AmelieJolie]

I'm still not sure though. :confused:

I think that maybe when we stop perceiving "polarity", but instead bring all "opposites" together, only then, will we hold the true keys to the "Kingdom of God"- Nirvana.

[whetherwhich]

We already are more fully evolved - we are the co-creators of our universe. My higher self, my past selves and my conscious 3D self all exist, now, all at once, and we all choose this, now. It's all about the Creator experiencing and loving ourself. (Ourself is deliberate word choice, not a typo).

[SuperManny]

All questions are being answered according to the Law of One. :)
So when we are much more fully evolved, and become as "Gods"- then what?
This is a mystery whose depths we do not plum. -Ra
Would we create our own unique life-support systems?Yes
And if we did, would we do anything differently to life as we know it here?
Oh yes! imho
I'm still not sure though. :confused:
I think that maybe when we stop perceiving "polarity", but instead bring all "opposites" together, only then, will we hold the true keys to the "Kingdom of God"- Nirvana.That is not the work of this dimension. This density is actually where we officially choose our polarity. Bringing all opposites together does not occur until 6th density.

As Ra so bluntly put it "Were there no potentials for misunderstanding, there would be no experience!"

[AmelieJolie]

That is not the work of this dimension. This density is actually where we officially choose our polarity. Bringing all opposites together does not occur until 6th density.
I chose Oneness instead of polarity.

[One 66]

And in order to achieve Oneness, one has to experience the negative and positive to know it self.

One 66

[AmelieJolie]

And in order to achieve Oneness, one has to experience the negative and positive to know it self.

One 66

If only
We could see through each other's eyes
There would be no more fear
There would be no lies

If only
We could
Feel empathy for every human
And animals alike

If only
If only

Break Free

Break Free from the Suffering

It's up to us to put things right
With every gentle spark of light

There's something out there-
Can't you feel it?
Where we come from
Where we truly belong

It's endless possibility
It's endless Love.......

Infinite Consciousness
Infinite Love.

[AmelieJolie]

(Some thoughts on the subject of "evil")
Using some of my "rambles" to illustrate a point of view.


What happens when people are so damaged, by all the things that may have happened to them during their childhood/ lifetimes that they can't fix themselves?

Who will fix them then?

What if no-one tries to?

What if they want to make things change, but don't know how- like a skill they don't possess such as driving a car?

Who will stop the rain/ pain for them? Will they find the switch to turn on the light in that dark, dark room?

Who knows what makes a person into someone who wants to harm others intentionally. Who knows what makes people like that. Did life love and nurture them the way they needed, to be feeded.....when they were born into this world as new and pure as all God's innocence.....who stole it away from them?

Return to innocence.....

The only real evil is ignorance itself........

"Ego is no more than this: identification with form, which primarily means thought forms. If evil has any reality - and it has a relative, not absolute, reality - this is also it's definition: complete identification with form - physical forms, thought forms, emotional forms. This results in a total unawareness of my connectedness with the whole, my intrinsic oneness with every "other" as well as with the Source. This forgetfulness is original sin, suffering, delusion. When this delusion of utter separateness underlies and governs whatever I think, say and do, what kind of world do I create? To find the answer to this, observe how humans relate to each other, read a history book, or watch the news on television tonight.

If the structures of the human mind remain unchanged, we will always end up re-creating fundamentally the same world, the same evils, the same dysfunction."

Ekhart Tolle
A New Earth

"A Uniquely Programmed Individual"- short talk by Ramesh Balsekar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB7h2mtMQ0I


This creation- our separation from the Oneness- created suffering. :(

[One 66]

If only
We could see through each other's eyes
There would be no more fear
There would be no lies

If only
We could
Feel empathy for every human
And animals alike

If only
If only

Break Free

Break Free from the Suffering

It's up to us to put things right
With every gentle spark of light

There's something out there-
Can't you feel it?
Where we come from
Where we truly belong

It's endless possibility
It's endless Love.......

Infinite Consciousness
Infinite Love.

A beautiful poem... I'm touched by it.

One 66

[MarkM]

(Some thoughts on the subject of "evil")
Using some of my "rambles" to illustrate a point of view.


What happens when people are so damaged, by all the things that may have happened to them during their childhood/ lifetimes that they can't fix themselves?

Amelie, I would like to again thank you for the touching way with which you share your thoughts and feelings with us.

We live in a time of very intense experience. It is as though the times dictate a huge range of quick-firing catalysis, and I have often thought of these times as being a final opportunity in this cycle for many of the billions of souls here to meet past karma or to meet a form of catalysis that may have been unavailable to them for thousands of years.

It seems that all the ages of man: Atlantis, Mu, and all of the great civilizations included, are represented here at this time - a time when there is once again the opportunity for many to experience karma, to revisit issues and situations that have not been in existence in the Earth for ages.

For example, karma incurred in a past technological society may not be properly 'meetable' until a new technological society arises, offering similar situations that one may revisit for the purpose of re-experiencing certain catalysis.

It is as though everything which has been, in the past, is here in the world again all at the same time, in a huge climactic pageant in which for the first time in a great cycle, perhaps, we are all for the most part here again, all together, for a last ditch opportunity to make some great soul gains before the end of the cycle.

Those of us who are dedicated to love and the desire for all people to 'see the light' and live a just, happy and god-centered life may well despair when we see how many are bent under the weight of the world, damaged and darkened by this world which is rife with cruelty, indifference, abandonment and all imaginable trauma.

Truth is, though, many have waited a very long time for just this opportunity to experience just these things! They often come into these very circumstances, purposefully, knowing that a 3D incarnative experience at this time is a truly god given, golden opportunity to address soul issues that they may not have been able to address properly until these times.

And so they bravely choose a very heavy catalytic load; and although it is apparent to us that they are suffering greatly, they are often making great strides in their evolution of spirit. It is not likely that we can know what their karmic needs are or how well they are progressing in a personal evolutionary sense, by looking at their outer circumstances.

Sometimes, it helps to step back a bit and look at the bigger picture of human experience, and look at these times in the context of the great opportunity that they offer those who may otherwise not have the chance to meet themselves. Those who are apparently shouldering the biggest loads are likely those who are making the greatest strides.

A single human lifetime is very short, compared to eternity. Those damaged souls only need bear this burden for a short time, a few hundred months; and often after the end of an incarnative experience when the burden is released, there is great rejoicing at the progress made.

***

Now, the other side of the coin..

There is much that anyone can do to help lighten the load of these poor souls suffering so, when the opportunity arises. A certain mission, among others, seems to have been manifesting itself to me and involves putting myself into places where I can be of assistance to people who seem to be searching for some spiritual solace.

I have been developing the ability to allow a sliver of light to manifest to certain others, in an environment where much hurt, confusion and darkness holds sway.

By practicing seeing others as self and radiating unconditional love and support to those in this environment I am aware that I am gaining in this ability, and I sense that many of these people gravitate towards me and gain some ineffable sense of something they can't quite put their fingers upon, but they know something good has happened.

I don't preach the Law of One, nor do I hold sway in conversation. I don't hold myself on any type of pedestal or pretend to be anything other than a normal human being in any sense. Just a silent awareness of the Oneness of all and the knowledge of the sanctity of the lives of all I encounter and the sincere desire to share light with all can allow the light of the One Infinite Creator to shine around.

It doesn't come from me, but I do see that it comes through my heart and into the hearts of those around. The more I practice this the more I see it happening, and the more that synchronous happenings occur that can sometimes diffuse a potentially dangerous situation or allow me to arrive just in time to be of some sort of aid to those friends in need. Like two of the last three or four nights.

I too am a loner by nature, historically in my life, But for me it is important to get out there in the world and offer what I can. For me, it's my 'ministry', so to speak. And it's a first-hand way to experience the real magic of service to others.

-Mark

[AmelieJolie]

Thank you everyOne for sharing your thoughts.

MarkM,
It is not likely that we can know what their karmic needs are or how well they are progressing in a personal evolutionary sense, by looking at their outer circumstances.
Good point.
I too am a loner by nature, historically in my life, But for me it is important to get out there in the world and offer what I can. For me, it's my 'ministry', so to speak. And it's a first-hand way to experience the real magic of service to others.
Yes, very true.

What seems to me to be very much most of the problem in the world is that most do not real-eyes they are "a part of everything".
There is SO much wisdom in the saying that we should put ourselves in the shoes of others. (Toddlers, who are more sensitive, can do this. :) They are wise. :D )

I often wonder whether it was really necessary for creation to experience so much pain before it could begin to real-eyes once more that each being, each life-form- is a part of everything.

I guess one day, I might finally understand and be able to see more than I do know. ;)

Searching for absolute truth is a very difficult task.........
I question everything because I realize that life has so many "illusions".

I like to be spiritually aware but at the same time open-minded and discriminative.

In a way, it would be nice not too worry about finding the answers to questions I have and thinking so deeply all the time. But to deny these things would be to deny myself.

If I didn't worry so much about finding the truth, then I'm sure I would be a lot less prone to depression, etc.
But having these things does not make me any less of a person- at least I have the strength not to pretend to be something I am not.

The very nature of this reality means we all have limitations which make us vulnerable in one way or another.

Being vulnerable in some or having some sort of limitation does not make anyone inferior to anyone else.

Whoever thinks they have the right to judge another person is just, for time being, blind to that disillusion........

[AmelieJolie]

I have just been reading this:

http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/sep2/wilcock.htm

"Many sources, including Ra (see companion Ra article), Edgar Cayce, and others, say that the Oneness essentially got bored or lonely. It needed to do something. It needed to create. It wasn't feeling complete just by having this unified consciousness all the time.

So it conceptualized the idea of breaking Itself up into all these parts, knowing that the parts would be able to evolve by their own free will, making their own decisions. Things would happen that the Oneness was not yet able to understand or comprehend. The parts would have essentially their own creative ability. They would be Co-Creators.

The Great Plan was that at the end, after this entire cycle of universal evolution was complete, all of the parts that had evolved on their own would independently recognize their God Consciousness, renounce separation, embrace unity, and return to the totality of Oneness. The One Creator from that very fact would be highly enhanced, because all of this wonderful creative stuff had transpired in that transition from ''One'' to ''many'' and back to ''One.''

So God is evolving, and not some static Being that just sits there and waits for everybody to catch up. God is experiencing our evolution with us."


And:

http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/sep2/ra.htm

"The Veil of Forgetfulness

Why can't we remember our previous lives?

It is only within the Third Density evolutionary process that the Veil of Forgetfulness exists.

If there were no potential for misunderstanding, there would be no experience. It is necessary for the Third Density entity to forget where it comes from so that the mechanism of confusion or free will may operate upon the newly individuated consciousness complex.


So, apparently, the need to make choices without conscious understanding of all the ramifications is a necessary evolutionary step in the growth of an entity. In other words, we need to learn ''faith.'' If there were no Veil of Forgetfulness, then one would always understand the ramifications of one's choices, and Life would be entirely predictable. In a predictable system, free will cannot exist."


Therefore, it would seem that to forget who we truly are, to experience separation in the deepest way (that which we see in our world).......was part of the plan of God.....and who God really is, is us (whether its humans, whales, trees or the house-fly)..........

If this is true, then there must have been an aspect of ourselves which for some reason or another decided to play out the role of "evil" (ie, the "dark" entities operating from other levels in hope of control over this one, if they are indeed real and not just a part of this dream)......and the shape-shifting reptilians, etc.

Therefore, to hate "evil" would be futile. We need to understand what created it in the first place if it is ever to be overcome. If we are everything, then that which is "evil" is a part of us also. Just to simply "hate" this part of us would not be enough. We need to understand WHY.


Love & Light.

[AmelieJolie]

I have also been pondering how we become more compassionate/ empathic once we have experienced something for ourselves, allowing us to empathize with others who have had similar experiences.

Perhaps these are the things we need to experience in order to gradually bring us back to Oneness again.

I wonder how it will empower us, one day, on the much higher levels? :confused:

Hmmmm..........

I want to know so much!

[AmelieJolie]

We are sparks of God.........that which are all forms of creation........sparks of the Divine God-force, who came to experience life in the separate dimension of "form".

Through suffering we learn compassion and empathy.

Through empathy we learn Oneness again.

Through joy we experience each aspect of God's beauty.

In life, we will eventually learn harmony, by realizing that "polarity" is just an illusion. All is One. Understanding and empathy are the way.

[Bill]

Mark,

I resonated completely with your message. In fact, I feel that is my calling as well. It has had a strong effect in the last five years or so, and I too struggle with the material ramifications of it. I know that I do not desire to be seen as a celebrity or messiah, but I do sense that the ability to see and hear others, and reflect that back to them is my gift, and calling.

As I like to tell folks that benefit from what I can offer, and those that will then ask me what they should do... "It's my job to shine the light, not to tell you what to see..."

[soup]

...I do sense that the ability to see and hear others, and reflect that back to them is my gift, and calling....


The image of two mirrors facing each other offering an "infinite vista" comes to mind - as if this seems one way of "building a bridge to infinity."


soup

[Goyo]

This is by far, one of my favorite quotes from the Law of One that explains the reason for being incarnate. I hope this helps:)

"50.12 Questioner: Can you expand on the concept which is that it is necessary for an entity, during incarnation in the physical as we know it, to become polarized or interact properly with other entities and why this isn’t possible in between incarnations when the entity is aware of what he wants to do. Why must he come into an incarnation and lose conscious memory of what he wants to do and then act in a way in which he hopes to act?

Ra: I am Ra. Let us give the example of the man who sees all the poker hands. He then knows the game. It is but child’s play to gamble, for it is no risk. The other hands are known. The possibilities are known and the hand will be played correctly but with no interest.

In time/space and in the true color green density, the hands of all are open to the eye. The thoughts, the feelings, the troubles, all these may be seen. There is no deception and no desire for deception. Thus much may be accomplished in harmony but the mind/body/spirit gains little polarity from this interaction.

Let us re-examine this metaphor and multiply it into the longest poker game you can imagine, a lifetime. The cards are love, dislike, limitation, unhappiness, pleasure, etc. They are dealt and re-dealt and re-dealt continuously. You may, during this incarnation begin—and we stress begin—to know your own cards. You may begin to find the love within you. You may begin to balance your pleasure, your limitations, etc. However, your only indication of other-selves’ cards is to look into the eyes.

You cannot remember your hand, their hands, perhaps even the rules of this game. This game can only be won by those who lose their cards in the melting influence of love, can only be won by those who lay their pleasures, their limitations, their all upon the table face up and say inwardly: “All, all of you players, each other-self, whatever your hand, I love you.” This is the game: to know, to accept, to forgive, to balance, and to open the self in love. This cannot be done without the forgetting, for it would carry no weight in the life of the mind/body/spirit being-ness totality."

[AmelieJolie]

Thank you, Goyo.

Ever since I was a little girl, (probably after having that profound experience I had during prayer)....I have felt a a sort of love for all beings. I also felt, as I feel now that most of those we may think of as "wicked" or "evil" are in need of healing....of course every situation is unique.

I always felt I had some sort of important purpose here on earth.....I have been confused about what exactly, though. Unfortunately, I have been too "thin-skinned" to really get out there in the world and make an impact, or fulfill my potential educationally, as I deep down I am too much of a "free spirit" anyway......but I don't feel free in other ways.

I am learning now that every little does have an impact, and even if I can just help touch the lives of one or two people, this matters.

It is really hard being human though.
There is so much confusion in the world.

In time, I hope to learn to see past the "veil" more and more, to have access whenever I need it from higher realms and from "infinite love".

Lets get those pineal glands of ours active! :D

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

Lets get those pineal glands of ours active! :D

Very good Idea!;) How about incorporating this activation into every aspect of every day life, and beyond? Could we ever attain this liberation of the soul? Could we ever become fully conscious? Will the "Human" trust the "Being" enough to let go of 3rd density, shed the bodies, and merge with alike in 4d?..Sylvain

[AmelieJolie]

I am trying to see the positive things in life more.

I just can't help but wonder.

If it wasn't for the descent into matter in the first place, an entity would never have to become evil (which I blame on the veil itself, not on them).

And there wouldn't be all the manners of profanity and cruelty we see against life, against the beautiful beings of this creation.

I just watched this video summing up all the things the Catholic church has done in the past, including sentencing children to death for playing with a pagan statue....

And I just feel sick.....sick.

:(

[AmelieJolie]

How can anyone do such a thing?

I'll tell you why- because they lack the ability to empathize. That is the reason.

Why do some lack the ability to empathize?
Because of this veil.

This veil....this veil, the source of all evil and manner of vile things. Even the word itself says so.

I just wonder......
Could it be

That a negative, unbalanced force gave birth to such a veil?

Credo Mutwa, a highest ranking African Zulu Shaman, says there was a time once when we could speak not through words, but through telepathy....and we had access to higher levels of consciousness.....until these corrupt forces came and interfered with us.

I just want to know the truth.
My heart and soul is tormented by this hunger I feel.........

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

I just want to know the truth.
My heart and soul is tormented by this hunger I feel.........

I feel you, the Logos of our region have handed us quite a colourful set of blueprints. I imagine how we might seem to be in a correctional institute, where the souls who need the most work done, are incarnating during this period. I feel we all have a part to play in healing our ownselves and reaching out to others in need.
Some might need extra help relinquishing positions of power, money, greed, wich have been abused for sooooooo long. The time will come when we all join together and put our divine foot down, face our demons, and serrender to Infinite Creation:D .............. Sylvain....

[SuperManny]

How can anyone do such a thing?
Why do some lack the ability to empathize?
Because of this veil.
Perhaps you could find more peace if you just allowed people to be as they are, even if you don't understand them. Please don't take this as a criticism, but I read so many of your posts where you are really stressing out about why people act the way they do. Simply allow them the freedom to be how they are; perhaps they are doing the best they can under the circumstances they find themselves in.

Whatever you focus on in your life expands and becomes more prevelant and dominant. "Energy flows where your attention goes." Choose your focus deliberately and wisely.

Trust that there is a Greater Plan at work that we may never fully understand, but everything happens for a reason. There is no circumstance or event that man can create that Creator can't turn into the highest good for everybody involved.

[AmelieJolie]

Perhaps you could find more peace if you just allowed people to be as they are, even if you don't understand them. Please don't take this as a criticism, but I read so many of your posts where you are really stressing out about why people act the way they do. Simply allow them the freedom to be how they are; perhaps they are doing the best they can under the circumstances they find themselves in.

Whatever you focus on in your life expands and becomes more prevelant and dominant. "Energy flows where your attention goes." Choose your focus deliberately and wisely.

Trust that there is a Greater Plan at work that we may never fully understand, but everything happens for a reason. There is no circumstance or event that man can create that Creator can't turn into the highest good for everybody involved.

No offense, but you seem to be missing the point here, SuperManny.

My point is:

"Forgive them, they know not what they do".

I don't believe there really is such a thing as "free will", due to the nature of this veil.

I have an open mind, that's all.

I know you guys want to trust in the Law of One material- that's fine- this is your choice.

But through my own searching, and praying, I have found other answers.

The answers I have been looking for are in Gnostic teachings, which Edgar believed to be the purest form of Christ's teachings.

I wanted to post my findings here, but it has been moved to the general section of the board.

I apologize if my own insatiable hunger for answers and unwillingness to settle for something which does not feel right to me, or feels incomplete (like the Ra material)- I apologize if this gives people a headache here. :rolleyes:

I will probably spend less time here from now on, as I have discovered this new area of interest, which is very much in harmony with the greatest Eastern teachings.


Peace to all.

[AmelieJolie]

Trust that there is a Greater Plan at work that we may never fully understand, but everything happens for a reason.
Yes, perhaps.

There is no circumstance or event that man can create that Creator can't turn into the highest good for everybody involved.
Well said.

Whatever you focus on in your life expands and becomes more prevelant and dominant. "Energy flows where your attention goes." Choose your focus deliberately and wisely.
I don't wish to accept something only for my own peace of mind, that's all. Ijust want to find the truth.

In my opinion, "free will" is a misnomer.
I feel that we were free in its true meaning before the veil.
The veil has led to spiritual/ physical bondage and all manner of suffering which we see on Earth.

I do, however, believe in what LoO says about all being one, etc- because if it is the veil itself that causes these things, then there is no real evil- only evil actions led by confusion and forgetfulness.

Whatever you focus on in your life expands and becomes more prevelant and dominant. "Energy flows where your attention goes." Choose your focus deliberately and wisely.
Well, in that case I shall focus my energy on everyOne gaining liberation through a New Earth; New Eden- regardless of who they are, for the way I view things in the world only makes me feel greater compassion.

[AmelieJolie]

...........

[soup]

...In my opinion, "free will" is a misnomer.
I feel that we were free in its true meaning before the veil...

In the intro to book 5 there's mention about the desire to serve without condition in some way, and likewise a mention of how the harmony between the three of them allowed them to serve in such a remarkable way. I think that such desire tempered by action serves as an example of "free will" aligned to "a divine will" in some way. This speaks to me of the idea of "self denial" - that many of us may have such a desire to serve but for whatever reason we seem weakly able to temper that desire with action.

In this way, I think that participation in forums such as this acts as baby steps in building strength to a point where more expanded opportunities may present themselves - where "free will" in the popular context becomes subordinated to "free will" in a divine context, hence a misnomer. Possibly a better description would relate to trade offs and how one aligns themselves.


soup

[soup]

Is there a state of "being" beyond vibration that does not require us to "evolve"?

From the wave theories of physics there seems some potential analogy. That a pure vibration as analogous to a pure frequency wave which can be destructively canceled to a null by a similar wave out of phase by 180 degrees. Is the null state one where need for evolution becomes mute?

The reality of a person's vibration may be quite complex containing many frequencies and thus to experience such a null such latent spectrum would need to be nulled by a comparable out of phase spectrum...which doesn't seem likely. This may be some statement of evolutionary completion in some regard, which seem fairly easily demonstrated in experiments with light. (Such nulls may simply play contrast to other more evolutionary states of being.)



soup

[soup]

...What is the purpose of coming down here into a body?....


In some respects, this seems to imply we come down from say "Heaven" to be incarnate upon "Earth", maybe so. In other respects, maybe we come up from say "Hell" to be incarnate upon "Earth." Likewise, there may be the idea that we live incarnate upon the Surface of the Earth, that we come up from Earth to live upon the Surface of the Earth - in this sense, I imagine that incarnation, in more cases than not, seems to stem from a desire for ascension.



soup