ET Celestials

[sol72us@...]

Okay, it's not fair to generalize.
Extraterestrials come in many forms.

The favorable mainstream acceptance
I propose working toward refers simply
to the first step of acknowledgement,
that they exist and that they are,
friendly. It is important that a
positive association is made, so that
fear is not triggered when issues
pertaining to them arise.

After attaining this acknowledgement,
then there is follow on work that
involves making distinctions of the
different types and gaining greater
clarity on how we can help them.

Crop Circles are not well understood,
but they are a physical manifestations,
physical evidence that extraterrestrials
exist. We need physical manifestations
that exhibit goodwill, and cannot be
argued with.

As a transition step, is it possible to
convey a crop circle pattern that cannot
be argued with? How about some Disney
character patterns? What kind of
response would Mickey Mouse get?

Pat


--- In asc2k@y..., "Rod" <deebokonon@y...> wrote:
>
> Indeed, I believe that they (whom I call "the Celestials") have
put our
> gene pools on this planet many times over for special reasons

[Clark stewart]

Crop circles, do not prove that they are et in origin.
the Chilbolton crop glyph, well that may be some what more substantiated,
but
still ..
We may see the 'legit' glyphs as definate higher sources.
that does not disclude several factions of present known blk technology
groups.
So if the 'bad' guys have simular tech, why not some earth 'good guys' too.
So terrestrail or none, makes no difference...hence it is the message not
the messenger..

Therefore, no glyph could irrefutably say they are ET origin, even the
Chilbolton..
They seem that way due to the intensity, but so would a lot of DL stuff that
terrestrials are doing.


PBWY,
Clark

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[sol72us@...]

Thanks Clark,

Nothing personal but you sound like a cop.
Maybe my mistake "cop instead of crop" was for you.
So what if Mickey Mouse did appear as a crop circle,
and it matched my "opportunity" attempt. Then what?
I would argue that public awareness would go up, and
that people would think that ET's are friendly.
The response would be favorable, hoax or not.

Pat

P.S. Please explain what "DL" and "PBWY" mean (thanks.)




--- In asc2k@y..., "Clark stewart" <fudoshin09@h...> wrote:

> They seem that way due to the intensity, but so would a lot of DL
>stuff that terrestrials are doing.
>
> PBWY,
> Clark

[Jeremy Weiland]

> So what if Mickey Mouse did appear as a crop circle,
> and it matched my "opportunity" attempt. Then what?

E.T.'s emblazening copywrited, corporate logos on
fields? Sounds like my worse nightmare... ;-)

> I would argue that public awareness would go up, and
> that people would think that ET's are friendly.
> The response would be favorable, hoax or not.

But I think what Clark is saying is that the crop
circles are done on the E.T.s' terms, not ours. The
message is the important thing, and you're not going
to get the message unless you already believe crop
circles are legit. No crop circle in and of itself is
going to convince most people that ETs are for real.
And, man, if I was a skeptic, a Mickey Mouse crop
circle, even though it is very difficult to do, would
make up my mind for me that these are definately
pranksters.

But that's just my opinion. :-)

Jeremy

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[Jeremy Weiland]

> So what if Mickey Mouse did appear as a crop circle,
> and it matched my "opportunity" attempt. Then what?

E.T.'s emblazening copywrited, corporate logos on
fields? Sounds like my worse nightmare... ;-)

> I would argue that public awareness would go up, and
> that people would think that ET's are friendly.
> The response would be favorable, hoax or not.

But I think what Clark is saying is that the crop
circles are done on the E.T.s' terms, not ours. The
message is the important thing, and you're not going
to get the message unless you already believe crop
circles are legit. No crop circle in and of itself is
going to convince most people that ETs are for real.
And, man, if I was a skeptic, a Mickey Mouse crop
circle, even though it is very difficult to do, would
make up my mind for me that these are definately
pranksters.

But that's just my opinion. :-)

Jeremy

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[Clark stewart]

What i am really trying to do is emphasizÃÃà ‚Â‚ÃƒÂ‚Ã‚ÂƒÃƒÂƒÃ‚ÂƒÃƒÂ‚Ã‚ ‚© some assumed facts, that are
reprogramming your thought processes.
Not to exlude the fact it may be the "little green men"....but,
there are many non-linear aspects to consider when viewing this phonomenum,
if we review DW's ideas regarding time-space reference pts then ,,,
we have the idea of 'our' future selfs playing a role at this, you could
also think about this as a higher part of yourself.
So even though it may be cool to attribute all the facinating stuff to the
'aliens'..well,
in archeology this argument kinda shows, as isolationist vs diffusionist..
e.g the S.americans did need chinese help to 'invent ' the ying-yang symbol,
which apparently takes away from there alustriousness.
besides that pt. i mearly dropping aseed for further probing, that we exsist
on many levels at once , and when we approach this idea with a real wide
eye, we begin to interpret there meanings, on at least one level....for
there are many ..
so yes we are aliens, just as much as the greys.

What is terrestrial inclusive is the question, and i mean that beyond the
body of corpusular bond matter.
ie physicality...

Ps..DL= DownLow, DeepLevels, ie blk prjects...

PBWYall,
C-note
>
> > So what if Mickey Mouse did appear as a crop circle,
> > and it matched my "opportunity" attempt. Then what?
>
>E.T.'s emblazening copywrited, corporate logos on
>fields? Sounds like my worse nightmare... ;-)
>
> > I would argue that public awareness would go up, and
> > that people would think that ET's are friendly.
> > The response would be favorable, hoax or not.
>
>But I think what Clark is saying is that the crop
>circles are done on the E.T.s' terms, not ours. The
>message is the important thing, and you're not going
>to get the message unless you already believe crop
>circles are legit. No crop circle in and of itself is
>going to convince most people that ETs are for real.
>And, man, if I was a skeptic, a Mickey Mouse crop
>circle, even though it is very difficult to do, would
>make up my mind for me that these are definately
>pranksters.
>
>But that's just my opinion. :-)
>
>Jeremy
>
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[Jeremy Weiland]

> What i am really trying to do is emphasizÃÃà ‚Â‚ÃƒÂ‚Ã‚ÂƒÃƒÂƒÃ‚ÂƒÃƒÂ‚Ã‚ ‚© some
> assumed facts, that are
> reprogramming your thought processes.
> Not to exlude the fact it may be the "little green
> men"....but,
> there are many non-linear aspects to consider when
> viewing this phonomenum,

*Exactly my point*, Clark. You've hit it on the head.
We need to be completely open to whatever the cause
of this phenomenon is, without trying to put it in the
little box of 3D understanding. I *believe* that this
phenomenon (crop circles) have that as their goal
(just my best guess, and I'm open to other ideas, and
don't believe for a second I know definatively what's
going on): to open humanity up to the idea of
infinity. Because once we accept the idea of infinite
possibility in creation, and are comfortable with
that, we have basically affirmed that we are ready for
the truth, whatever it is. It's only when we try to
accept the truth on our limited terms that we enter an
unacceptable level of distortion into the mix. And I
believe that that is unacceptable to the ETs at this
time, for if they enter their existence into the
equation of our sum total of distortions, they do not
bring us closer to unity.

> if we review DW's ideas regarding time-space
> reference pts then ,,,
> we have the idea of 'our' future selfs playing a
> role at this, you could
> also think about this as a higher part of yourself.

Ah, a very Seth-oriented idea. But then, isn't
everything a part of yourself anyway? :-) But I
understand what you mean, Clark.

> What is terrestrial inclusive is the question, and i
> mean that beyond the
> body of corpusular bond matter.
> ie physicality...

Not sure what you mean here, though... :-)

Jeremy

P.S. BTW, Clark, more drum and bass suggestions: Roni
Size, "New Forms" and LTJ Bukem, "Progression Sessions
5" Also check out some DJ Logic.

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